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Or otherwise, just say that whatever was used at Dagorlad (3440 S.A.) was the best of pre-gunpowder technology. And that in 3018 T.A., gunpowder research was at its crudest stage. I thought that from Dagorlad, they might have developed gunpowder weapons to such an extent that they might have M1s or bazookas to throw at Mordor Orcs or B-2s to bomb Barad-Dur or the Black Gate.

1) then... Frodo would probably look like the guy in your avatar.
2) gunpowder just doesn't really fit into fantasy stories about elves, orcs and stuff, don't ya think...

um....middle earth would be in rubble?

I'll tell you that gunpowder was used at Helm's Deep. And secondly, F-22 pilot helmets are anti-glare and have an oxygen mask, which the guy in my avatar doesn't have. Imagine the Moria Subway, for instance.

oh bejesus.....

If the book had all that rubbish you said.....it wouldnt be LOTR it would be more like, lord of the guns, and set in space with jedi knights!!

and the one ring was actually the one nuclear missile??

perhaps the counter attack gandolf led at helms deep should of had Abraham tanks..

Maybe they should digitaly edit it soo all the archers are actually snipers and all the ocks have chop sticks....


Talk about a waste of time...

but...its not

a waste of space and a waste of time answering to this pathetic post?!

There is no blasters in the scenario I laid out. The counterattack should have been of rail guns (still small enough to be carried over by infantry) and the rail guns could be dismissed as being magic implements, as would be all gunpowder-based weapons in Middle-Earth.

From what I know, the Mordor Orcs would have only have two occasions to capture the technology: either by capturing Minas ithil, or Osgiliath.

are you obsessed with the army and guns?

Running out of ideas for GOOD threads I see

Same thing a raging flood would do

Did you not see Fellowship of the Ring?

Well ur a hit dumb then if you cant remember. This post is pointless and it WOULD NEVER happen....it was set over 6000 years ago....they only made proper guns this century!!!! Get over it! (the flood (in film) was made by arwen....you might wanna wtach it b4 u post)

when the nazgul were following her and frodo to get the ring...

silliest...

thread...

everrrr....

http://www.simpsonsweb.com/img-news/196.jpg

How about.............you shut up now

Let's see. Mankin on Earth has been around for what? A few million years and they were around on Middle-Earth like what a few thousand?

Don't foget that before the First Age it was Middle-Earth prehistory, so Middle-Earth might also have been around for millions of years.

What is your point here? Stop being so anoying and go back to what hole you crawled out from (it sounds mean but your annoying the hell out of all of us!!)

Originally posted by DanielLB
What is your point here? Stop being so anoying and go back to what hole you crawled out from (it sounds mean but your annoying the hell out of all of us!!)

I meant that if Middle-Earth prehistory was about a few millions of years too (assuming it's on a class-M planet that followed the same kind of evolution as Earth) maybe Middle-Earth technology would be, by 3018 T.A., at BEST at our level, if we assume first that in 3441 S.A. the technology was the best of pre-gunpowder era. At worse, it would be in the early days of gunpowder.

Take that technology bull**** some place else because it is not wanted in Middle-Earth.

Originally posted by Shadow x 20
Take that technology bull**** some place else because it is not wanted in Middle-Earth.

Can somebody explain it to me in further detail as to why do science/technology issues wouldn't be discussed here? Or as to why would technology wouldn't have any place in Middle-Earth?

I thought since it was solely for LOTR, that would go in there.

LOTR is fantasy/ficition! Do you see gunpowder/guns/explosives in any other fantasy film. For example: LOTR....no...theres magic
Harry Potter......no.....theres magic
Nania....no.....theres magic
SW.....yes.....BUT IS SCIFI!
the wizard of oz....no.......adventure and weirdness in this film...BUT NO GUNS!
king kong..........no gunpowder...
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs......absolotly no guns!

You get our point?

lol....this is just amusing....

Indeed....but very annoying

Originally posted by DanielLB
LOTR is fantasy/ficition! Do you see gunpowder/guns/explosives in any other fantasy film. For example: LOTR....no...theres magic
Harry Potter......no.....theres magic
Nania....no.....theres magic
SW.....yes.....BUT IS SCIFI!
the wizard of oz....no.......adventure and weirdness in this film...BUT NO GUNS!
king kong..........no gunpowder...
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs......absolotly no guns!

You get our point?

I saw LOTR actuallyusing gunpowder, in Helm's Deep (The Two Towers).
King Kong, it is based in New York of the 1930's or 1940's. There were guns in that era.
Godzilla (the very first one): killed by napalm, which is more advanced than gunpowder.

Originally posted by Twilight Janick
I saw LOTR actuallyusing gunpowder, in Helm's Deep (The Two Towers).
King Kong, it is based in New York of the 1930's or 1940's. There were guns in that era.
Godzilla (the very first one): killed by napalm, which is more advanced than gunpowder.

Its not gunpowder...you might want to look a bit closer!

King Kong fair enough but i said no gunpowder:P

Godzilla......thats a crap film anyway!

and it was set in our time wasnt it :s

LOTR is unique because of its technology advances. Two during the Third Age, cloning and gunpowder. Gunpowder is used here as an explosive.

But what was used at Helm's Deep to blow up part of the Deeping Wall if it wasn't gunpowder?

I'm asking that if what's used at Helm's Deep to blow up part of the Deeping Wall is not gunpowder, what it is then?