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Lets set aside um their friendship and place them in all out fight. This is rejuvenated Magneto vs Exodus from Bloodties. So can the master of magnetism overcome raw psionic powers.

yes

Magneto all the way.

magneto kicks his butt of course. nothing can hurt him in a way

Originally posted by gladiator69
magneto kicks his butt of course. nothing can hurt him in a way


Nothing can hurt Magneto? ok...............

Originally posted by id369
Nothing can hurt Magneto? ok...............

i dont know if u noticed or not but when he protects himself with his magnetic forcefield nothing can get through so yes in a way nothing can hurt him when he covers himself

So What about Exodus Telekinesis force filed? Its not like Magneto can rip it apart.

neither can exodus do to him and magneto has won more fights than him with his powers.

Magneto's powers are far beyound Exodus'. Magnet has the power to control blackholes.

Still Exodus abiltiy to protect himeslf in his force field would counter that.

magnus can also lift over 100 tones using his magnetic powers. exodus is strong to but he can go there lifting that high up.

Ok how strong or how much Exodus. I know its more than 10 tons he did held an island in his force filed and proceded to crush it.

exacty 10 not a 100 like somone im talking about

You are telling me that 10 tons of lifting power is what Exodus displayed in bloodties when he held the Island shut?

thats what you told me

Nope the 10 ton limit was stated in a couple websites. I dont think Marvel has ever mesured how far his psionic powers are.

im sure they know it pretty well or they wouldnt show it on there the right clues about him. and ive gotten lots of info from cards and comicbooks thos give you more info than the sites i admit. especially this one. lol

Originally posted by gladiator69
exacty 10 not a 100 like somone im talking about

Exodus from Blood Ties was a beast my friend. He did things Magneto would only dream of doing. He beat the x-men and the avengers at the same time, he bested Sersi (yes, the eternal), kicked the crap out of warmachine, was telepathically influencing almost all the mutants on Genosha (millions), and created and maintained a force field that was crushing an entire island, all at the same time. Then he took Xavier's mind attack (that put Magneto in a coma) and got right back up.

~wickerman~

Originally posted by gladiator69
im sure they know it pretty well or they wouldnt show it on there the right clues about him. and ive gotten lots of info from cards and comicbooks thos give you more info than the sites i admit. especially this one. lol

True the only way to have knowlede of any certian cara is thru the comic its self.

Originally posted by Wickerman
Exodus from Blood Ties was a beast my friend. He did things Magneto would only dream of doing. He beat the x-men and the avengers at the same time, he bested Sersi (yes, the eternal), kicked the crap out of warmachine, was telepathically influencing almost all the mutants on Genosha (millions), and created and maintained a force field that was crushing an entire island, all at the same time. Then he took Xavier's mind attack (that put Magneto in a coma) and got right back up.

~wickerman~

i dont know if u noticed or not that magneto has won so many fights against the xmen and the people from genosha folow him as there leader for along time. and of course xavier has done that to magnus many times to chill him out when he goes over board using his powers at others

Originally posted by Wickerman
Exodus from Blood Ties was a beast my friend. He did things Magneto would only dream of doing. He beat the x-men and the avengers at the same time, he bested Sersi (yes, the eternal), kicked the crap out of warmachine, was telepathically influencing almost all the mutants on Genosha (millions), and created and maintained a force field that was crushing an entire island, all at the same time. Then he took Xavier's mind attack (that put Magneto in a coma) and got right back up.

~wickerman~

Lets not forget he may also be a potential Omega lv Mutant.
Is a Psionic Wielder of the higest kind.
He absorbs energy even life force to increase his strength, his real powers are telepathy, telekinesis, mind blast, mind control, pshysic vampirism, teleprtation.

Yeah Im starting to think Magneto wont have an easy time taking him down.

Originally posted by id369
Lets not forget he may also be a potential Omega lv Mutant.
Is a Psionic Wielder of the higest kind.
He absorbs energy even life force to increase his strength, his real powers are telepathy, telekinesis, mind blast, mind control, pshysic vampirism, teleprtation.

Yeah Im starting to think Magneto wont have an easy time taking him down.

same with magneto he can absorb electricity even if thor trie to throw his lighting at him the same with energy he absorb it to from others and anything just like bishop in a way.

Originally posted by gladiator69
same with magneto he can absorb electricity even if thor trie to throw his lighting at him the same with energy he absorb it to from others and anything just like bishop in a way.

You mean from the sorounding, not from Exodus.....how would Mag absorb Electricity from a psionic user.?

he has before if u didnt know that

well i gotta go u 2 can finish arguing IL be back later on so dont cry

ps. i still think magneto is more powerful if you have some cards or something look on there says hes one of the most powerful guys out there. some comic books to says on there

All humans have a slight electical current, Magneto has shown he can control even that little bit. Take that away and all brain functions shut down.

Originally posted by gladiator69
he has before if u didnt know that

Show me some proof please
Also, about Xavier doing "that" to chill him out many times, you're probably not hearing me properly. In case you've forgotten, Xavier used his strongest mind blast to put Magneto in a coma right after he killed hundreds of people and took the adamantium from Wolverine's skeleton. That didn't just make Magneto chill. It put him in a coma. Exodus got back up in seconds.
Also show me where Magneto has been up against as many people as Exodus was fighting, beat them, and ALSO did something as impressive as crushing an island at the same time.

Proof would be nice

~wickerman~

Magneto has done it. It all depends on the writer. I think he never did it to Xavier because he did not want to kill him and as for Doom I really do not know. As said before it depends on the writer. Still Magneto has shown to have enough power to destroy the entire planet and has shown to have enough power to take down Exodus. All Magneto would have to do is create a blackhole and Exodus is done for. Exodus may be powerful but he never showed the power to survive a blackhole.

A well written Exodus will kill magneto, Exodus took one of the most powerful avengers sersi out, took out xavier, xmen and avengers while he was holding a island up with his telekineses. I like magneto but against some body who can absorb energy and teleport and other crazy sh** you are in a world of trouble.

At full power Exodus kills Magneto. Xavier might be apacifist but Exodus is a mass muderer and his powers are pretty much closer to X-Man. There is abso lutely nothing Magneto can do to him. Hell and where is this Black hole Creating power Magneto has? Never seen it. Another thing is that Exodous's pschic attack is going to kill Magneto. Xavier when angered can go right through Magneto's helmet and Exodus cna do the same.

Here is the thing about Magneto. He has vast control over his Electromagnetic, but using those powers at such heights drains him vary quickly, as a matter of fact if he gets a serious injury his body wont hold such amount of power.

And his black hole power is some what questionable. Seems as if Scarlet Witch had influence over that.

You forget - electromagnetism can block psionics. Magneto did it to mask himself from four of the most powerful psionics on earth during Fatal Attractions. He also fought off Xavier's mental attack and tied him up and sent him flying into the ocean.

Also - Exodus fought Magneto already and lost.

The black hole power isn't questionable - the whole issue explored what would happen if Magneto tapped into his full power, it was clear that his blackhole generation was an example of what the whole issue was about.

Exodus was sucked into a blackhole recently and showed no ability to escape it.

Exodus NEVER held an island up. He put a forcefield over the island and progressively pushed it downwards until it started crushing buildings.

Magneto wins this handily.

Exodus' single greatest display of power was simultaneously a) taking the Genoshan mutates' hatred of humans and amplifying it, making them fight more b) crushing all of Genosha under a force field c) trapping Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Crystal and Jean Grey in another force field, while d) preventing them from moving or using their powers e) protecting himself from all attacks and f) putting a beating on the X-Men AND the Avengers.


As for Magneto being the strongest Human on earth. Well he has bien out ranked by to many already (Jesus Cable, Scarlet Witch to name a few)

Originally posted by demigawd
You forget - electromagnetism can block psionics. Magneto did it to mask himself from four of the most powerful psionics on earth during Fatal Attractions. He also fought off Xavier's mental attack and tied him up and sent him flying into the ocean.

Also - Exodus fought Magneto already and lost.

The black hole power isn't questionable - the whole issue explored what would happen if Magneto tapped into his full power, it was clear that his blackhole generation was an example of what the whole issue was about.

Exodus was sucked into a blackhole recently and showed no ability to escape it.

Exodus NEVER held an island up. He put a forcefield over the island and progressively pushed it downwards until it started crushing buildings.

Magneto wins this handily.

So this wole Black whoel thing is a what if?

When has Exodus fought Magneto ans was he at full power liek when he was on Genosha?

I wasn't talking about Exodus's abilty to escape a Black hoel more about his ability to kil Magneto before he could attempt it. Hiding from pschics is not the same as fighitng off a murderous one who knows where you are.

Originally posted by id369
Exodus' single greatest display of power was simultaneously a) taking the Genoshan mutates' hatred of humans and amplifying it, making them fight more b) crushing all of Genosha under a force field c) trapping Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Crystal and Jean Grey in another force field, while d) preventing them from moving or using their powers e) protecting himself from all attacks and f) putting a beating on the X-Men AND the Avengers.


As for Magneto being the strongest Human on earth. Well he has bien out ranked by to many already (Jesus Cable, Scarlet Witch to name a few)

He had forcefield up while fighting SOME members of the Avengers and the X-men at the same time. He lost because his powers got overloaded due to Xavier and Black Knight.

He had a VERY difficult time against War Machine...it took half an issue to put him down, and he was UNABLE to beat Sersi. He fought her to a draw.

Magneto instantly took down the X-men, X-factor, X-force, while holding up Avalon, which is larger than Asteroid M and levitating his followers. He turned off everybody's powers, except Bishop, who has no conscious access to his powers to turn off. Aside from that oversight, Magneto completely had them. It's *at least* as impressive a feat.

Beyond that, Magneto has TONS of other feats. Exodus peaked with that, and was never the same since.

Originally posted by Warmonger
So this wole Black whoel thing is a what if?

When has Exodus fought Magneto ans was he at full power liek when he was on Genosha?

I wasn't talking about Exodus's abilty to escape a Black hoel more about his ability to kil Magneto before he could attempt it. Hiding from pschics is not the same as fighitng off a murderous one who knows where you are.

No, the Black Hole wasn't a What If. It was in Excalibur 14 or 15, where they were talking about how Magneto has always held back because he was confused about his purpose. Xavier said that for Magneto, rebuilding Genosha is one of the few purposes on which Magneto was clear and unconflicted - and his fuller power would be unleashed. At the end of that issue, Magneto opened a wormhole.

Exodus was at full power when he fought Magneto.

Hiding from psychics isn't the same as fighting off a murderous one, but my point was that Magneto has the ability to TURN OFF psychic powers. And he did it instantly. Xavier, Jean, Psylocke, M, none of them were able to access their powers.

once again if u guys dont get it look it up yourself that magneto has won a hell lot more fights then exodus. exodus has won many also i admit but magnetos has shown his powers are far ahead of exodus.

Exodus wins. Written to his full he's one of the most powerful people on earth.

Yes, more powerful that Mags.

yah right

and if any of yall dont mind telling me. let me know which comic books youve seen that exodus and magneto go at it and exodus knocks him out ? if its not to much to ask. so its proof for what you are saying

Such a comic does not exist. In Magneto Rex, iirc, Exodus gets beaten.

Let's look at some of Exodus' greatest battles:

War Machine - he wins after half an issue of battle
Sersi - draw, with him having a slight edge
Holocaust - lost after long battle
Thena - hard fought victory
X-man - lost in straight up battle
Quicksilver with Icetope E - lost. Humiliated, actually
Magneto - lost after several page battle
Wolverine - LOST, after being unable to keep Wolverine in place
Havok - LOST, after being blasted from the sky
Hulk - LOST, in like three panels
Apocalypse - LOST in a SINGLE PANEL

Added up, it's not a particularly impressive record.

of course thats not an impressive record. magneto has won a hell lot more battles than him and everyone else knows it to they just dont want to admit it

Originally posted by demigawd
Xavier has NEVER put Magneto down on his own. In their head-to-head battle, Magneto resisted Xavier's mind attack, tied him up and won. In Eve of Destruction, Magneto blocked Xavier's access to his own powers.

The only two times Xavier got the best of Magneto, the first time, Magneto was getting pounded by 25+ mutants after Bishop broke free and Xavier came strolling in and took over his mind. The second time, Magneto was mortally wounded by Wolverine (even Wolvie said Magneto was holding back in that issue) and Xavier came strolling in and blacked out his mind. He's never beaten Magneto one-on-one.

Listen I dont care. You can continue to argue magneto under his AOA era. to keep ppl from using his long history cf feats that were written from diff writers.

Well, AOA Magneto loses. He's old and weak.

"Wolverine - LOST, after being unable to keep Wolverine in place"



What is the issue number?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
"Wolverine - LOST, after being unable to keep Wolverine in place"



What is the issue number?

Don't remember the issue number, but it was an X-men Unlimited where Exodus impersonated Magneto. They were suspicious because, you know, Magneto doesn't have psionic powers. Wolverine realized who it really was and walked through all of Exodus' attacks and took him down, forcing Exodus to reveal himself and explain that he only wanted to help.

What a punk.

Anyhow.... demigawd witch verson of magneto (Ultimate. AOA, series etc..) would say Magneto was at his strongest?

Originally posted by demigawd
Don't remember the issue number, but it was an X-men Unlimited where Exodus impersonated Magneto. They were suspicious because, you know, Magneto doesn't have psionic powers. Wolverine realized who it really was and walked through all of Exodus' attacks and took him down, forcing Exodus to reveal himself and explain that he only wanted to help.

What a punk.

Hmh.

Not bad writing at all...

Originally posted by id369
Anyhow.... demigawd witch verson of magneto (Ultimate. AOA, series etc..) would say Magneto was at his strongest?


616 Magneto is the most powerful
AOA Magneto is second (but far down)
Ultimate Magneto is the weakest - but the entire Ultimate Universe is weaker.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Hmh.

Not bad writing at all...

Didn't say it was good....just said it happened.

Originally posted by demigawd
616 Magneto is the most powerful
AOA Magneto is second (but far down)
Ultimate Magneto is the weakest - but the entire Ultimate Universe is weaker.




I think 616 is currently the weakest...

heh. Touche.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
"Wolverine - LOST, after being unable to keep Wolverine in place"



What is the issue number?

stupid you dont need an issue to show that for proof. use your head magneto is the master of magnetism he can control any type of metal and some energy sources. and wolverine has adamantium in his body so duh of course magneto can control his body. figure it out your self

????

Magneto had nothing to do with what I wrote or what DC asked in response.

Originally posted by demigawd
????

Magneto had nothing to do with what I wrote or what DC asked in response.

was saying that to DarkCrawler of the post he put awhile back not you

this propably measn nothing to you ppl but in AoA Exodus was so powerful that Magento made him believe that he only has certain powers. meaning that when he was a mere lad and just came under Mag's guidance, he didnt know what his powers were, so mags just let him develop the basic effects, only to have when shit hit the fan and h was making his final move on Apoc, he was all like,,"oh yeah Exodus I fogot to tell you that you can pretty do anything you set your mind to.........no, literally your powers allow you to do that, so...i dont know...if you culd just telport my xmen to Apoc's stronghold id appreciate it." ---- *scratches his head like a guilty child*

i dont know to me that signifies that he respects his power enuff to not want to have to face him in open combat, even tho in a recent uncanny xmen he had a poor showing plus he got sucked into a black hole, but convential wisdom says magneto has this

Originally posted by manjaro
this propably measn nothing to you ppl but in AoA Exodus was so powerful that Magento made him believe that he only has certain powers. meaning that when he was a mere lad and just came under Mag's guidance, he didnt know what his powers were, so mags just let him develop the basic effects, only to have when shit hit the fan and h was making his final move on Apoc, he was all like,,"oh yeah Exodus I fogot to tell you that you can pretty do anything you set your mind to.........no, literally your powers allow you to do that, so...i dont know...if you culd just telport my xmen to Apoc's stronghold id appreciate it." ---- *scratches his head like a guilty child*

i dont know to me that signifies that he respects his power enuff to not want to have to face him in open combat, even tho in a recent uncanny xmen he had a poor showing plus he got sucked into a black hole, but convential wisdom says magneto has this

tell me which comic book you got that info from for proof. or did u only make that up. cause i still say magneto is more poweful than exodus. magneto has won a hell lot more battles then exodus

Originally posted by gladiator69
tell me which comic book you got that info from for proof. or did u only make that up. cause i still say magneto is more poweful than exodus. magneto has won a hell lot more battles then exodus

No, no. Manjaro is actually quite correct about that in AOA. Exodus is definitely more powerful than AOA Magneto, but not 616.

of course not 616 there im a 100 % sure

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Xavier_Vs_Magneto.jpg

http://wolverine.x-knights.com/fullsize/wolverine216.jpg

http://wolverine.x-knights.com/fullsize/wolverine185.jpg

Funny man. Let's deconstruct, shall we?

Scan 1 - The page or two before, that you so conveniently forgot to scan, shows Wolverine charging at Magneto and saying, "Still holding back, Mags? BIG MISTAKE". Magneto got tagged and gutted by Wolverine because he was holding back. No other reason. After putting away Wolverine, Magneto was too injured to defend himself any further, so Xavier, who was relegated to having to combine forces with Jean Grey to get past his psychic defenses just to provide a DISTRACTION for Magneto, finally gets the balls to walk up to Magneto and mindblast him. Note that he didn't do it before because he knew what would happen to him.

And Xavier nearly killed himself in the process.

Scan #2 - Cover. Ignoring

Scan #3 - It again took the combined efforts of both Jean Grey and Xavier, the two more powerful telepaths on earth, to secretly weave their way through Magneto's mind while he was beating up the rest of the X-men, and cut off access to his power.

You prove nothing.

Context is a b!tch, isn't it?

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Originally posted by batdude123
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Evil...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Evil...

I did this specifically for you.

Originally posted by demigawd
Funny man. Let's deconstruct, shall we?

Scan 1 - The page or two before, that you so conveniently forgot to scan, shows Wolverine charging at Magneto and saying, "Still holding back, Mags? BIG MISTAKE". Magneto got tagged and gutted by Wolverine because he was holding back. No other reason. After putting away Wolverine, Magneto was too injured to defend himself any further, so Xavier, who was relegated to having to combine forces with Jean Grey to get past his psychic defenses just to provide a DISTRACTION for Magneto, finally gets the balls to walk up to Magneto and mindblast him. Note that he didn't do it before because he knew what would happen to him.

And Xavier nearly killed himself in the process.

Scan #2 - Cover. Ignoring

Scan #3 - It again took the combined efforts of both Jean Grey and Xavier, the two more powerful telepaths on earth, to secretly weave their way through Magneto's mind while he was beating up the rest of the X-men, and cut off access to his power.

You prove nothing.

Context is a b!tch, isn't it?

And THIS is specifically for xmarks.

Originally posted by batdude123
I did this specifically for you.

I think I'll go and sulk in a corner...now...that way I'll be able to watch X come and wreak havoc....

Originally posted by batdude123
And THIS is specifically for xmarks. I was going to bump this the other day.

1. Xavier only brought Jean Grey because he was expending mental energies and limiting his telepathy by walking with the exoskeleton.

2. Charles weaves his way into Magneto's mind on his own, and by Magneto's own admission with ease.

Bloodties Exodus wins.

I staying out of this...but a few things bugged me at the beginning of the thread....wasn't it Jospeh who fought Exodus? Not Mags...and when did he lose to Holocaust? The last thing I remember is Avalon being destroyed...and Exodus Blitzing Holocaust....unless I'm missing a comic...

BTW What's all this ressurection stuff I hear...Exodus can't do that...right?

I'm just going to repost what I wrote in the Magneto/Superman thread.

I've just been reading the old thread. I can't believe how much BS demi got away with purporting. Magneto's going to block the sun..? The shield is a completely self-sustaining environment..? Galactus can't hurt Magneto...? The shield repels everything and anything physical or energy that comes in contact with it...? It's on all the time and it automatically can repel incoming variant EM despite being transparent and allowing sound through all the time...? He electrolyzes a glacier...? huh Magneto pinpointed Xavier from hundreds of miles away... nah never happened... was maybe a mile tops...

Additionally he can molecularly deconstruct people... huh ... and create singularities in people's heads.... huh... and he can attack anything, anywhere no matter how fast its moving just by imagining it... huh

"Magneto can just psionically envision Superman, anywhere on Earth, and proceed to drain him."
Essentially saying no matter where Superman is, regardless of if Superman is moving at the speed of light, with no knowledge of where Superman is whatsoever, he's going to drain him and kill him... via the power of imagination?

The wormhole was something that occurred in close proximity to HoM where it was revealed the Scarlet Witch had been manipulating reality on small and large scale for quite some time. She wanted to be rescued, she wanted her daddy, Mags manages to make a wormhole. Go figure.

Demi based most of his stuff on a version of Magneto that existed for a few issues of Excalibur. Some of the claims e.g. Magneto can drain Superman no matter where on Earth he is no matter how fast he is moving with no knowledge of where he is through the power of imagination, were quite absurd.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
1. Xavier only brought Jean Grey because he was expending mental energies and limiting his telepathy by walking with the exoskeleton.

2. Charles weaves his way into Magneto's mind on his own, and by Magneto's own admission with ease.

So in essence, you can't respond.

Originally posted by batdude123
So in essence, you can't respond. I even numbered them.

Demigawd ignores context when it doesn't suit him, and exaggerates that which does.

Bloodties Exodus wins.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I even numbered them.

Demigawd ignores context when it doesn't suit him, and exaggerates that which does.

Bloodties Exodus wins.

You don't need to question demigawd's integrity when you know there's a "*" by the Proffessor X feat. He was holding back and was gutted by Wolverine right before getting mindwiped. He was completely defenseless at the time.

He resisted once, it was pure BS. I love how mag fans love to bring that up. He mind raped him even with his powers being amped by cortez
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatalattractionspt4xmenseries202536ep3.jpg

Charles owning magneto using his own powers aganst him. I don't know much about Exodius, but I'm sure he could do the same.




http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4364/likes5oo4.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1662/likes6oc1.jpg

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4979/likes7kt3.jpg

Or he could just shut down his powers and slap him.

http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled1enm1.jpg

Originally posted by What If...
He resisted once, it was pure BS. I love how mag fans love to bring that up. He mind raped him even with his powers being amped by cortez
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatalattractionspt4xmenseries202536ep3.jpg

Charles owning magneto using his own powers aganst him. I don't know much about Exodius, but I'm sure he could do the same.




http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4364/likes5oo4.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1662/likes6oc1.jpg

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4979/likes7kt3.jpg

Or he could just shut down his powers and slap him.

http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled1enm1.jpg

Wow, nice job considering that was from the ULTIMATE universe which isn't canon to the story line of the 616 Universe. Not to mention Magneto had his helmet taken from him by Quicksilver. thumbsup

Yes, because he couln't have just as easily done it with TK. thumbsup

http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?...es202536ep3.jpg

and that was 'canon'
Exodus 10/10

Originally posted by batdude123
You don't need to question demigawd's integrity when you know there's a "*" by the Proffessor X feat. He was holding back and was gutted by Wolverine right before getting mindwiped. He was completely defenseless at the time. Gutted by Wolverine? I'll have to look again I recall his armour was raked.

He was weakened as Jean Grey and Xavier were making him relive past horrors. Jean Grey was only there because Charles was heavily strained by the exoskeleton. Charles is capable of such feats on his own, and Exodus has been shown to be a more formidable force both telepathically and as a whole than Charles.

Exodus would win 5.5/10. Bloodties wise his TK is strong enough to shatter his helmet and he has enough latent TP for Exy to suck on until he's simply just too much even with the helmet.

Originally posted by What If...
Yes, because he couln't have just as easily done it with TK. thumbsup

http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?...es202536ep3.jpg

and that was 'canon'
Exodus 10/10

It isn't canon to the 616 universe. It's only canon to the Ultimate Universe which we aren't even talking about. And you skipped the part before of him owning Charles at the time before Wolverine and then later, Quicksilver stepped in to help.

Scans=DISMISSED. They are from the Ultimate Universe which does not correspond to the 616 Universe in which we are discussing.

how do you know the thread maker is referring to 616

It implies 616 Magneto.

Regardless Bloodties Exodus wins.

Bump because I'm a bit confused about there internal power structure.

Wasn't Exodus operating beneath Magneto on Genosha???

That's only because Exodus worshipped the ground Magneto walked on for rescuing him from the suspended animation Apocalypse put him in.

Magneto.

Honestly Exodus is truly a beast, However Magneto has like 2 life times worth of experience to master his power. And usually when you're the MASTER of Something it implies that you've reach a certain height of accomplishment suggesting that those who haven't attained said level will be inferior at that ability.

To me it seems pretty obvious that Magneto will eventually win in a battle. Mainly because his nemesis is considered arguably the strongest Psychic on earth, who he has battled for 1/2 a century.

Meaning that he has 1)vast experience fighting Psychics, 2)a natural defense against Psychics (his Helmet, also he helped invent Cerebro)
3) He is a low level psychic, 4) and to my knowledge NOTHING, including a blast from Galactus has breached his shields.

Xavier uses Cerebro to boost his abilities if needed. Magneto used to employ Magnetic devices of his own creation for similar uses, however since being rejuvenated to the prime of his life he no longer requires them. Hell he travels to and from space under his own power.
And if necessary could tap into the Magnetosphere to boost his powers further, He has taken the force of a nuke as well as traded blows with Colossus. He kept Thor from his Hammer which I think truly shows his MASTERY of his natural abilities.

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