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-How he could've been with Lana if he chose the path to the light side.

-How Lana (his wife) was pregnant and how she died during child-birth.

-How he said that his mother died (and his baby brother) and he couldn't do anything to save them. And he was always mad at himself for that. He always blamed himself as if they died because he couldn't save 'em.

-How Lex couldn't do anything to prevent Lanna from dying because he didn't have the power to do so.

-Jonathan and Clark are both Obi Wan in one and how Lex respected them and admired them like brothers with genuine love.

-Lionel reminded me of the Jedi council particularly Mace Windu. How Lionel prevented and held Lex back from giving him the ability to help Lana, even though Lex had the potential.

-How Lex woke up and said that the only way to prevent pain and to keep the ones you love from dying is to "Have money, and power."

-I think this is the episode where Lex has finally turned to the Dark-side entirely by saying that and by going against Jonathan and Clark the threateningly in the same way Anakin and Obi Wan did. After he looked at them as brothers.

There's so many references to Lex Luthor moving to the darkside that it's laughable sometimes.

Originally posted by Arsenal
There's so many references to Lex Luthor moving to the darkside that it's laughable sometimes.

Yea but this time it wasn't a reference. It's was direct and blatant. He ordered a hit on Jonathan just for political gain. His best friend father. This is where he literally and officially becomes Lex Luther the Criminal Mastermind. Like it's not subtle anymore. Finally.

C'mon, he's not all bad, and I don't think he ever will. Sure, the old lady's prediction implied that he'll become the devil and kill everyone, but that's not going to really happen. Sure he's bad, but not without ample emotional scars and traumatic experiences to justify it.

Originally posted by crazylozer
C'mon, he's not all bad, and I don't think he ever will. Sure, the old lady's prediction implied that he'll become the devil and kill everyone, but that's not going to really happen. Sure he's bad, but not without ample emotional scars and traumatic experiences to justify it.

FYI Lex Luthor is currently Criminal Master, and one of Earth's biggest threats as Superman's #1 arch nemesis, if you didn't know.

Lex Luthor becomes like the antichrist.

And no one can be justly bad. If your're being bad, you're being unjust.

I said not all bad. Sure, criminal mastermind, will lie, kill and steal, but still has a conscience. Even Darth Vader who was Luke's father, repented in the end

LMFAO that you spoilerized that "HGE" revelation.

And Fist your comparisions are nothing new, they've been all over the net for 2 weeks now.

Priestess, what's with your nasty attitude towards the fist of the north star? Firstly, it's a good animated series and secondly, it hasn't written anything nasty towards you. Has it occured to you that perhaps (with the net being the home of several million people across the globe) fist only visits this forum and has no clue about the rest of the net? It would indicate his comparisons 'coincidental' in simularity to the ones that you say have "been all over the net for 2 weeks now.", making him innocent and therefore a victim (aka scared bunny rabbit caught in the headlights of an oncoming truck) at the receiving end of your attack?

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
LMFAO that you spoilerized that "HGE" revelation.


So I should probably not spoil the ending of Smallville Clark Kent is Superman

All kidding aside though, when exactly do you think Lex started being interested in Lana? Sure, he always seemed to dote on her, but he did have flings with women plus was engaged...

Originally posted by PrettyboyTom
Priestess, what's with your nasty attitude towards the fist of the north star? Firstly, it's a good animated series and secondly, it hasn't written anything nasty towards you. Has it occured to you that perhaps (with the net being the home of several million people across the globe) fist only visits this forum and has no clue about the rest of the net? It would indicate his comparisons 'coincidental' in simularity to the ones that you say have "been all over the net for 2 weeks now.", making him innocent and therefore a victim (aka scared bunny rabbit caught in the headlights of an oncoming truck) at the receiving end of your attack?

Hey. Buddy. I don't need yours or anyone else's assistance in defending myself. I don't want it either, never did. I'm perfectly capable of holding my own thank you.

It might've looked like Priestess was throwing a monkey wrench in order to disrupt this thread or the enthusiasm I felt about the topic, but I in no way felt like it was an attack nor did I feel like "a scared bunny rabbit caught in the headlights of an oncoming truck" I've felt her wrath and I've paid for it in the form of being flamed, banned, suspended, threatened to get kicked out permanently and even as of now I'm hanging by my pinky finger off a cliff on this thread for my trying to defend myself. I came to find out that people aren't worth it because I like writing on here more than trying to defend myself and getting booted permanently. lol especially when your on probation.

So in other words, Fist, you lay down for her because it keeps your 'KMC Smallville' membership card active? So long as you aren't abusive with how you defend yourself, I don't see why your card shouldn't remain valid for as long as you choose to live in this forum.

There's no need to get your knickers in a twist, I wasn't defending you. I was giving my view on this lil' squabble between you and some other teenager. What it looks like and what it is, I do not care about. I will say what I see and if I see it, I'll say it. Just as you did with how you saw what I said as 'defending you'.

I agree with you that people on the internet aren't "worth it", but you did look like a scared bunny rabbit caught in the headlights of an oncoming truck though, and Priestess was selfishly attacking you.

I hate lex..and Lana they make a great couple. My bad off topic..uh..i agree with crazylozer.

*Ahem*. Report her.

Originally posted by Snoopbert
*Ahem*. Report her.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Hey. Buddy. I don't need yours or anyone else's assistance in defending myself. I don't want it either, never did. I'm perfectly capable of holding my own thank you.

It might've looked like Priestess was throwing a monkey wrench in order to disrupt this thread or the enthusiasm I felt about the topic, but I in no way felt like it was an attack nor did I feel like "a scared bunny rabbit caught in the headlights of an oncoming truck" I've felt her wrath and I've paid for it in the form of being flamed, banned, suspended, threatened to get kicked out permanently and even as of now I'm hanging by my pinky finger off a cliff on this thread for my trying to defend myself. I came to find out that people aren't worth it because I like writing on here more than trying to defend myself and getting booted permanently. lol especially when your on probation. Originally posted by PrettyboyTom
So in other words, Fist, you lay down for her because it keeps your 'KMC Smallville' membership card active? So long as you aren't abusive with how you defend yourself, I don't see why your card shouldn't remain valid for as long as you choose to live in this forum.

There's no need to get your knickers in a twist, I wasn't defending you. I was giving my view on this lil' squabble between you and some other teenager. What it looks like and what it is, I do not care about. I will say what I see and if I see it, I'll say it. Just as you did with how you saw what I said as 'defending you'.

I agree with you that people on the internet aren't "worth it", but you did look like a scared bunny rabbit caught in the headlights of an oncoming truck though, and Priestess was selfishly attacking you. Originally posted by Snoopbert
*Ahem*. Report her.

i agreee why is it so boring???

Originally posted by PrettyboyTom
So in other words, Fist, you lay down for her because it keeps your 'KMC Smallville' membership card active? So long as you aren't abusive with how you defend yourself, I don't see why your card shouldn't remain valid for as long as you choose to live in this forum.

There's no need to get your knickers in a twist, I wasn't defending you. I was giving my view on this lil' squabble between you and some other teenager. What it looks like and what it is, I do not care about. I will say what I see and if I see it, I'll say it. Just as you did with how you saw what I said as 'defending you'.

I agree with you that people on the internet aren't "worth it", but you did look like a scared bunny rabbit caught in the headlights of an oncoming truck though, and Priestess was selfishly attacking you.

Snoopbert, I don't report. I don't cop-out like that cause it's the easy way.

And Prettyboy, if i get booted from here then hey f*** it, ill find somewhere else on the net to go, as if as if nothing happened.

I never worry.

Sure I like writing on here kinda, but thats why I'm on here. Not for KMC, not for the mods and definitely not for J. Priestess. KMC is just a site I randomly chose out of many to write what I feel on certain topics and all posters are basically text on my screen. That's how I look at it.

And how did I "look scared" by not starting a flame war. Starting problems on here would get me banned permanently, understand. But if I get booted even right now, hey. J. Priestess knows that so do the mods and others (you know who you are) want me outta here. The Mods booted me, but I came back and just started posting up threads like crazy, just doing the exact opposite of what every one expected me to do when I came back, which was to probably to just stay quiet. And it frustrated them and i loved it. I do catch it, I get pm'ed with the craziest BS and I love it. I can't attack directly because cause yea, one more strike and I'm out but I attack indirectly cause I like posting on here, thats it. Not sobbin'. Just had to let it be known, whether you or anyone else who just finished reading this post cares or not, mainly cause I don't care if you or anyone else care or not,..you know?

I'm a loner/rebel on here I know that, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I love it.

But I digress..

Another comparison "Lex-Mas" I just though about was how Lex got shot in the beginning of the show by his Ferrari just like Anakins limbs were hacked off and he was unconscious just like Lex was and the fact that, that deformation may have got him upset to the point that somehow it also may have had a bit to do with his lure to the Darkside. Their invulnerability.

All posters are text on your screen, you rebel you.

You go on about how much you don't care and THEN contradict yourself by giving reasons why you won't 'step over the line' to make them ban you!? You then ADMIT you're behaving in the opposite way you thought they'd expect you to, indicating to me that you're purposely behaving yourself.. to please them.

Rebels aren't pleasers.

I couldn't give a flying king sized banana if Lex Luthor woke up from his coma fully suited up in a Darth Vader suit at the end of that Lexmas episode. Star Wars sucks - Star Trek is much better. No argument!

Originally posted by PrettyboyTom
All posters are text on your screen, you rebel you.

Yea, but some people see anoother human being typing what he thinks in an emotional way. Not to me. To me it's like clockwork.

Let me rephrase it. To me, all posters are paractically bots that offer revelant and irrelevant feedback. I don't see the human. Just plain text. There is no life behind the words. Just letters.

But back to "Lex-Mas" Was Chloe Clarks wife or what?

I'm a tad slow on the edit, please forgive me

Edit 2.2 v182 (subject to change): Mind you, at least the viewers wouldn't have the shine off lex's head to contend with if he was to do the rest of Smallville in a Darth Vader suit.

Edit 2.3 v822 (subject to change): Just had this funny thought: what if Lex Luthor HAD woke up in a Darth Vader suit, glanced at Lionel and said, "dad, what have you done to me?!" and Lionel said in reply, "I had to do it son.. to make you WALK again".

Lex: "how dare you play god with my life!" *oooooooooockahhh*

Originally posted by PrettyboyTom
All posters are text on your screen, you rebel you.

You go on about how much you don't care and THEN contradict yourself by giving reasons why you won't 'step over the line' to make them ban you!? You then ADMIT you're behaving in the opposite way you thought they'd expect you to, indicating to me that you're purposely behaving yourself.. to please them.

Rebels aren't pleasers.

I couldn't give a flying king sized banana if Lex Luthor woke up from his coma fully suited up in a Darth Vader suit at the end of that Lexmas episode. Star Wars sucks - Star Trek is much better. No argument!

I could give 2 King Kong balls if you care or not you bot, I just felt like posting what I thought and you talk about Priestess and me contradicting and rebellion yet your the one attacking me, lol.

And Im not pleasing. I'm staying out of mayhem,I've been told that the way i defend myself in flame which is not true, it's not pretty either but i quit those ways, Prettyboy.

If Star Wars Sucks then good for you. Now go warm up to a popsicle. I don't care if you've had sexual Vader and lightsaber fetishes, ill still post on here the next day with replies that vary, lol as if it were nothing. Whether you like it or not or whether you care or not. Hell, just to f*** with you, I'd do it even more. I would keep this thread going merely for the fact that it annoys you just because, and thats it.

lol bots..

Actually, when I was watching it, I thought the same thing. It was kind of weird.

But, it was a good episode nevertheless. I mean, it showed Lex's "Fall." I mean, he had always shown the path he would eventually lead, and everyone knew who he would be, but this showed how it happened... in the Smallville universe.

Originally posted by PrettyboyTom
So in other words, Fist, you lay down for her because it keeps your 'KMC Smallville' membership card active? blah blah blah

First of all you ridiculous fool, I wasn't attacking Fist and he knows it.
Secondly little man I'm probably old enough to be your mamma K? But thanks for the teenager compliment. Sheesh these people blow in here and think they've got everything "all figured out".

Finally to Snoopbert you annoying little boy. From this moment on, every single time you post behind me from now on, it gets screen capped and sent to Rex and Raz. I know that Rex has warned you on more than one occasion and he will verify that with Raz so it's just matter of time you are sent back to your rathole. The very fact that you bothered to follow me in here is proof enough that you are being a troll.

Lol. Was it something I said?

And what exactly proves that I don't view this forum regularly? And I'm unaware of any bashing (Which is trolling, except trolling is on a regular basis) in my post. All I did was tell them to report you if they had a problem. Are you afraid of that or something?

In fact, the only one doing bashing here would be you, calling me a fool, and "little boy" in a condensencing and insulting manner.

consider yourselves told by DA snoopbert!

uh big whoop? lmao

and you continually go out of your way to bait me snoop and you know it, damn at least have the balls to be honest about your activites if you are going to engage in them

Originally posted by PrettyboyTom
consider yourselves told by DA snoopbert! No one got told by anyone here.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
uh big whoop? lmao

and you continually go out of your way to bait me snoop and you know it, damn at least have the balls to be honest about your activites if you are going to engage in them It isn't always about you JP, regardless of what you think. I'm not out to get you.

Look all you have to do is put me on ignore and not respond to any of my posts. Simple as that really. Just like Im going to do with you and the n00b over there. ta ta fellas

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Look all you have to do is put me on ignore and not respond to any of my posts. Simple as that really. Just like Im going to do with you and the n00b over there. ta ta fellas Very true. But, once again, since i'm not in some "War" with you or "out to get you" I don't feel the need to put you on ignore. And of course, that is an option I neglected to mention to the "n00b" (Another derogatory term). However, once again, why would I put you on ignore when I was just making a suggestion about a course of action to whatever it is they found offensive about you? (I wouldn't).

Snoop, who are yer talking ter?

JP's going to do basically whatever she wants on this forum, if you're going to last here I suggest you learn to ignore her, like I and just about everyone else did.

That said...
What I think has been largely missed in the reviews up to this point is that this episode establishes two telling possibilities in the relationship between Lex and Clark. Which possibility is the case depends on whether or not Clark becomes Superman in this reality, a fact that isn't made clear in Lex's visions.

Possibility 1- Clark *is* Superman. If this is the case, then we know that Martha, Jonathan, and Chloe know. Lex and Lana, however, are left in the dark. Clark was never able to tell either of them, which is rather significant in its own right. Clark never tells Lana (I believe he did in the comics, but that's obviously beside the point), which answers a question that people have been asking for awhile.

Possibility 2- Clark is *not* Superman. This, in my eyes, is even more illuminating, as it shows that, in order for Clark to fulfill his destiny, he had to be motivated by his opposition to Lex, and thus he required Lex's downfall. If that's the case, then we have Lex to thank for (unwittingly) helping to create Superman.

JP's going to do basically whatever she wants on this forum, if you're going to last here I suggest you learn to ignore her, like I and just about everyone else did.

You are kidding right? If she is bashing, point to the report button. Then click on it. Then click yes. Not that hard, and it's effective.

How about all of you calm down for a second and take a deep breath? The bashing stops NOW. Jedi, I'm not sure what the history wiht you and PrettyTom, but all of you, please stop with the bashing. It's not necessary and is very uncalled for.

So aside from that, let's keep things ON TOPIC and leave the member comments out of it. Thank you. If you have any questions, PM me.

-Rogue

I was spitting at my monitor and in a rage for days over this thread until you told me to calm down, Rogue, so thanks for that. I am now calm.

History of PrettyboyTom and Jedi is this: we used to date offline and then we split up over an argument about Smallville (I dumped her). She followed me to this forum and is now trying to get back at me for that. I'm the one being bashed, I'm the victim.

Thanks Rogue

I'd like to place emphasis on just how crap Star Wars is.

When Lucas announced there'd be three more Star Wars movies a few years back, I wasn't interested. I yawned when I first saw Episode I on DVD quite a few months after it's release. Episode II, I haven't been able to motivate myself to 'try' and watch. Now I notice there's Episode III torrents EVERYWHERE to download. I wouldn't even waste my time downloading the .torrent file. What a boring franchise the Star Wars series is!

I know Star Wars is one of those movies that can net bandwagon jumping people jump. I know that people are weak followers 99% of the time group. I know followers are mindless sheep that flock to Star Wars merchandising and all that stuff pile. Makes no difference how popular it is, it's still tedious and.... BORRRRINNNGGGG. yawn

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZ..... sleep1


Lexmas handled the Star Wars storyline in a much more interesting way than STAR starwars WARS ever has.

boxed2

Originally posted by Smallville
Actually, when I was watching it, I thought the same thing. It was kind of weird.

But, it was a good episode nevertheless. I mean, it showed Lex's "Fall." I mean, he had always shown the path he would eventually lead, and everyone knew who he would be, but this showed how it happened... in the Smallville universe.

I've seen so many superman shows about a bad Lex ... but now that its fully explained through Smallville... I have to say... Lex is right about being the way he is.... everyone pushed him that way... and now that he's become the root of all evil .... all I have to say is "HELL YEAH!"...

Wow, someone summoned this 'ol thread? I was reading my posts and chuckling at how different I sounded during that year and a half ago. I've noticed that my grammar, spelling, and attitude has definitely gotten better. I must've written a books' worth of stuff since then.