Spanish At School Translates to Suspension

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PVS
Spanish At School Translates to Suspension

By T.R. Reid
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 9, 2005; Page A03

KANSAS CITY, Kan., Dec. 8 -- Most of the time, 16-year-old Zach Rubio converses in clear, unaccented American teen-speak, a form of English in which the three most common words are "like," "whatever" and "totally." But Zach is also fluent in his dad's native language, Spanish -- and that's what got him suspended from school.

"It was, like, totally not in the classroom," the high school junior said, recalling the infraction. "We were in the, like, hall or whatever, on restroom break. This kid I know, he's like, 'Me prestas un dolar?' Well, he asked in Spanish; it just seemed natural to answer that way. So I'm like, 'No problema.' "

But that conversation turned out to be a big problem for the staff at the Endeavor Alternative School, a small public high school in an ethnically mixed blue-collar neighborhood. A teacher who overheard the two boys sent Zach to the office, where Principal Jennifer Watts ordered him to call his father and leave the school.

Watts, whom students describe as a disciplinarian, said she can't discuss the case. But in a written "discipline referral" explaining her decision to suspend Zach for 1 1/2 days, she noted: "This is not the first time we have Zach and others to not speak Spanish at school."

Since then, the suspension of Zach Rubio has become the talk of the town in both English and Spanish newspapers and radio shows. The school district has officially rescinded his punishment and said that speaking a foreign language is not grounds for suspension. Meanwhile, the Rubio family has retained a lawyer, who says a civil rights lawsuit may be in the offing.

The tension here surrounding that brief exchange in a high school hall reflects a broader national debate over the language Americans should speak amid a wave of Hispanic immigration.

The National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic advocacy group, says that 20 percent of the U.S. school-age population is Latino. For half of those Latino students, the native language is Spanish.

Conflicts are bursting out nationwide over bilingual education, "English-only" laws, Spanish-language publications and advertising, and other linguistic collisions. Language concerns have been a key aspect of the growing political movement to reduce immigration.

"There's a lot of backlash against the increasing Hispanic population," said D.C. school board member Victor A. Reinoso. "We've seen some of it in the D.C. schools. You see it in some cities, where people complain that their tax money shouldn't be used to print public notices in Spanish. And there have been cases where schools want to ban foreign languages."

Some advocates of an English-only policy in U.S. schools say that it is particularly important for students from immigrant families to use the nation's dominant language.

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) made that point this summer when he vetoed a bill authorizing various academic subjects to be tested in Spanish in the state's public schools. "As an immigrant," the Austrian-born governor said, "I know the importance of mastering English as quickly and as comprehensively as possible."

Hispanic groups generally agree with that, but they emphasize the value of a multilingual citizenry. "A fully bilingual young man like Zach Rubio should be considered an asset to the community," said Janet Murguia, national president of La Raza.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/08/AR2005120802122.html

im just speechless messed wtf?

Lana
Yeah....that's just messed up.....

Inspectah Deck
Rascism

manny321
Thats messed at my school because alot of people speak jokes in their native language because it would sound stupid in English. They still speak english normally like everyone else. Why don't you let people learn 2 languages or more. I can speak 2 and a half.
English, Punjabi (My parents come from northern India)
Some Hindi and French (equals about half)

However if people are speaking only Spanish that is a problem. You should master english then master your own native.

FeceMan
I don't get it...I guess that maybe they could have thought he was swearing, but it's retarded just to suspend him for speaking Spanish.

JacopeX
Thats so ****in gay! why are people against other native languages. Jusd because the dont understand it? that bull crap man!

Eis
Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
Rascism
How is that racism?

I do agree it's absolutley ludicrous but how is it a racist thing?

FeceMan
Originally posted by JacopeX
Thats so ****in gay! why are people against other native languages. Jusd because the dont understand it? that bull crap man!
Haha, you used 'gay' as a derogatory term. ZOMG BITOGRY!

(Sorry. Back on topic...)

Eis
Originally posted by FeceMan
Haha, you used 'gay' as a derogatory term. ZOMG BITOGRY!

(Sorry. Back on topic...)
laughing out loud

KharmaDog
Originally posted by FeceMan
Haha, you used 'gay' as a derogatory term. ZOMG BITOGRY!

(Sorry. Back on topic...)

Not to mention that he called spanish a "native language". Spanish is native to spain.

That being said, this is indeed crap. I mean the kid did not hand an assignment in that was written in spanish or anything like that.

I could understand it if were a gang thing, but this just seems to be bad judgement.

manny321
OMG the the adult is stupid. Any smart adult would it is better for a kid to be billingual when he gets a job. People who can speak English/ French up here in Canaga get good jobs.

PVS
he wasnt even in the class room.

Inspectah Deck
Originally posted by Eis
How is that racism?

I do agree it's absolutley ludicrous but how is it a racist thing?

It degards Hispanics

Victor Von Doom
I love the way that when reporting his reaction to the event, so as to show he was not a Fez from That 70s Show style foreigner, they had him speak like Moon Unit Zappa.

Snoopbert
Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
Rascism roll eyes (sarcastic)

JacopeX
Originally posted by FeceMan
Haha, you used 'gay' as a derogatory term. ZOMG BITOGRY!

(Sorry. Back on topic...)

???

Snoopbert
Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
It degards Hispanics No it doesn't, it degrades the Principal who suspended him.

OMG! RACISM AGAINST PRICINPALS!!!

-hh-
Originally posted by JacopeX
Thats so ****in gay! why are people against other native languages. Jusd because the dont understand it? that bull crap man! you're really stupid. how is that gay???

explain...

Echuu
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Fez from That 70s Show style foreigner

lol...in MY country...




Anyway this is a pretty bogus teacher.

soleran30
I am not sure what this alternative school is for or how many times Zach has done something out of hand so its tough to understand the real reason behind this.

If he was suspended simply because he speaks spanish then its bunk, however if its due to reasons beyond the scope of this article it would certainly help the article's credibility.

PVS
Originally posted by -hh-
you're really stupid. how is that gay???

explain...

please dont encourage him. i dont feel like seeing the thread flooded with one jibberish post after another, all ending in 'iight', do you?

might i add that this comes from the birthplace of mandated intelligent design erm

JacopeX
yo wut up! aiight!


LMAO im jus tryin to annoy you biatch!

Imaginary
That's really absurd. Things are probably different in the US but in Australia we have people speaking Korean, Cantonese, Mandarin, Italian, Greek, Hindi, etc all the time, even occasionally during class and they never get in trouble, unless it's for talking in class in general.

yerssot
hmmm, have to track back a text I read about patriotism being nationalism being closely related to xenophobism...

GCG
Originally posted by JacopeX
yo wut up! aiight!


LMAO im jus tryin to annoy you biatch!

Dont mind him, he's from Barcelona *slap*

soleran30
yes however wasn't it noted that this isn't your run of the mill school? Is this similar to a juvenile detention learning center? That might clear some of this up.

JacopeX
Originally posted by GCG
Dont mind him, he's from Barcelona *slap*
im from peru, i aint from no barcelona and you know how pissed are gonna get for readin this

manny321
its stupid if that happened in our shcool a riot would break out Because almost 90% of the school speak or know atleast one other language.

AdventChild
oh yea! i heard about this.....oh boy...lawsuit= big bucks.... he has to win the case...right?

FeceMan
Originally posted by JacopeX
???
Politically correct bullshit.

Disregard.

botankus
Originally posted by PVS
unaccented American teen-speak, a form of English in which the three most common words are "like," "whatever" and "totally."

This is the language that should have garnered the suspension!

PVS
Originally posted by botankus
This is the language that should have garnered the suspension!

word wink

eggmayo
Originally posted by JacopeX
im from peru, i aint from no barcelona and you know how pissed are gonna get for readin this
That makes no sense, and it's from a television progam.. smile

JacopeX
Originally posted by FeceMan
Haha, you used 'gay' as a derogatory term. ZOMG BITOGRY!

(Sorry. Back on topic...) Youre stupid BTW!

JacopeX
Originally posted by KharmaDog
Not to mention that he called spanish a "native language". Spanish is native to spain.

That being said, this is indeed crap. I mean the kid did not hand an assignment in that was written in spanish or anything like that.

I could understand it if were a gang thing, but this just seems to be bad judgement. Thats what i said...

PVS
you bumped this thread just to call someone stupid and then tag on a "me too" post? erm

JacopeX
Yea i did a good job didnt I?

§noopbert
You're a pathetic, illegal immigrant spawned want-to-be mexican gangster who, while being of mexican descent, comes out acting more like a wiger than anything else.

JacopeX
IM PERUVIAN!!!!! And i wuz born in L.A. *****!

PVS
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~raza/nobody_cares.jpg

§noopbert
Originally posted by PVS
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~raza/nobody_cares.jpg laughing

Black Rob
Originally posted by PVS
Spanish At School Translates to Suspension

By T.R. Reid
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 9, 2005; Page A03

KANSAS CITY, Kan., Dec. 8 -- Most of the time, 16-year-old Zach Rubio converses in clear, unaccented American teen-speak, a form of English in which the three most common words are "like," "whatever" and "totally." But Zach is also fluent in his dad's native language, Spanish -- and that's what got him suspended from school.

"It was, like, totally not in the classroom," the high school junior said, recalling the infraction. "We were in the, like, hall or whatever, on restroom break. This kid I know, he's like, 'Me prestas un dolar?' Well, he asked in Spanish; it just seemed natural to answer that way. So I'm like, 'No problema.' "

But that conversation turned out to be a big problem for the staff at the Endeavor Alternative School, a small public high school in an ethnically mixed blue-collar neighborhood. A teacher who overheard the two boys sent Zach to the office, where Principal Jennifer Watts ordered him to call his father and leave the school.

Watts, whom students describe as a disciplinarian, said she can't discuss the case. But in a written "discipline referral" explaining her decision to suspend Zach for 1 1/2 days, she noted: "This is not the first time we have Zach and others to not speak Spanish at school."

Since then, the suspension of Zach Rubio has become the talk of the town in both English and Spanish newspapers and radio shows. The school district has officially rescinded his punishment and said that speaking a foreign language is not grounds for suspension. Meanwhile, the Rubio family has retained a lawyer, who says a civil rights lawsuit may be in the offing.

The tension here surrounding that brief exchange in a high school hall reflects a broader national debate over the language Americans should speak amid a wave of Hispanic immigration.

The National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic advocacy group, says that 20 percent of the U.S. school-age population is Latino. For half of those Latino students, the native language is Spanish.

Conflicts are bursting out nationwide over bilingual education, "English-only" laws, Spanish-language publications and advertising, and other linguistic collisions. Language concerns have been a key aspect of the growing political movement to reduce immigration.

"There's a lot of backlash against the increasing Hispanic population," said D.C. school board member Victor A. Reinoso. "We've seen some of it in the D.C. schools. You see it in some cities, where people complain that their tax money shouldn't be used to print public notices in Spanish. And there have been cases where schools want to ban foreign languages."

Some advocates of an English-only policy in U.S. schools say that it is particularly important for students from immigrant families to use the nation's dominant language.

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) made that point this summer when he vetoed a bill authorizing various academic subjects to be tested in Spanish in the state's public schools. "As an immigrant," the Austrian-born governor said, "I know the importance of mastering English as quickly and as comprehensively as possible."

Hispanic groups generally agree with that, but they emphasize the value of a multilingual citizenry. "A fully bilingual young man like Zach Rubio should be considered an asset to the community," said Janet Murguia, national president of La Raza.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/08/AR2005120802122.html

im just speechless messed wtf? That's crazy

Bardock42
I agree that there shouldn't be tests and classes held in any other language than the country's language (except for schools that actually decide to do so but that's a different matter). But suspending someone just cause they spoke in their native tongue is unfair. Although the reaction of the parents shows just how americanized they are already.

JacopeX
Originally posted by PVS
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