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Didn't Morg beat Terrax and SS even before his WOL upgrade?
No, i don't think they're equal.

ok who the most powerful of heralds...

pls give your rankings...

Originally posted by joesha28
ok who the most powerful of heralds...

pls give your rankings...

Use the Search feature. It's been done.

pls give me the link...

Originally posted by joesha28
pls give me the link...


Go on the main page, click on Search, click on advanced search, use the "look in titles only", choose the comic book section in the list, put in words like herald, strongest, etc. and find the link by your own lazy self

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Didn't Morg beat Terrax and SS even before his WOL upgrade?
No, i don't think they're equal.
Nope

Morg beat Terrax , Air-walker , Firelord together easily.

SS kicked Morg's ass when Silver Surfer got pissed.

Silver Surfer was the first herald; Galactus gave him more power than anyone else. After he rebelled, Big G never granted quite as much power to the successors. Nova is likely no. 2.

What about Tyrant

Originally posted by roughrider
Silver Surfer was the first herald; Galactus gave him more power than anyone else. After he rebelled, Big G never granted quite as much power to the successors. Nova is likely no. 2.

The Fallen One was the first herald.

Originally posted by golem370
What about Tyrant

Tyrant wasnt a herald he was created as more of a companion.

the fallen one was the first AND most powerful herald. so powerful infact that his potential power was even above galactus's own power.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the fallen one was the first AND most powerful herald. so powerful infact that his potential power was even above galactus's own power.

I dont remember reading that anywhere in his two appearances in Thanos' title but yeah whatever you say.

He was very powerful though. Although Thanos still took him out like a b*tch.

How's that possible?

Originally posted by NoFate007
How's that possible?

What are u referring to?

agreed thanos took him out easier than precrisis supes would take out a lil kid, but we also know that that showing was a CLASSIC example of extreme PIS. {back again gs?}

a single casual blast from the fallen one was enough to destroy thanos's entire ship, n he also had galactus runnin from him then like a biatch.

Fallen One got completed chumped out by Thanos. He looked rather pathetic.

Originally posted by roughrider
Silver Surfer was the first herald; Galactus gave him more power than anyone else. After he rebelled, Big G never granted quite as much power to the successors. Nova is likely no. 2.
Nova was a chump.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
agreed thanos took him out easier than precrisis supes would take out a lil kid, but we also know that that showing was a CLASSIC example of extreme PIS. {back again gs?}

a single casual blast from the fallen one was enough to destroy thanos's entire ship, n he also had galactus runnin from him then like a biatch.
How is it PIS if it's his only showing?

thas not his only showing

Originally posted by The Ion
Fallen One got completed chumped out by Thanos. He looked rather pathetic.

Agreed

Yes it is. He appeared in the last two issues of Thanos' mini series. He blew up his ship and then got chumped out. Thanos made him his herald. No PIS involved.

Originally posted by The Ion
Yes it is. He appeared in the last two issues of Thanos' mini series. He blew up his ship and then got chumped out. Thanos made him his herald. No PIS involved.

You tell him.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/fallenonethanos.htm

Originally posted by leonheartmm
{back again gs?}

I only ever leave temporarily. Mostly when im bored or have a big workload. Thats why ive been away over the last 2 weeks.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I only ever leave temporarily. Mostly when im bored or have a big workload. Thats why ive been away over the last 2 weeks.

riiiight.............

Tyrant was a companion, not a herald. He did no duties of a herald. He was like a son.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
riiiight.............

Oh dont you start again.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Oh dont you start again.


sigh, u havent been cured of the smilie virus have u{n i thought two weeks in rehab would produce some results, hmmph}

i was just wonderin if "retcons" didnt have anythin to do with ur late return............

Originally posted by leonheartmm
sigh, u havent been cured of the smilie virus have u{n i thought two weeks in rehab would produce some results, hmmph}

i was just wonderin if "retcons" didnt have anythin to do with ur late return............

Have u seen the discussions going on in comic book forums? Have you read Official Handbook of Alternate Universes?

Didnt think so son. Not much has changed to be honest.

Sorry mate.

lmao, so the obsessive compulsive disorder remains too eh{damn u rehab people, n i thought 54000 dollars a day would make a difference............sigh}

Originally posted by leonheartmm
lmao, so the obsessive compulsive disorder remains too eh{damn u rehab people, n i thought 54000 dollars a day would make a difference............sigh}

Another flop attempt at humour.

Yes ive showed you up a bit in the past but this obsession is somewhat neurotic

Seriously Leon let it go.

Originally posted by The Ion
Nova was a chump.



Right..........a chump that gets to be the new Galactus after the Big Bang

i just might u know, seein as mental treatment seems to have no affect on u n ur stepmom's trust fund is runnin out.............poor poor boy

Originally posted by Dark Urizen


Right..........a chump that gets to be the new Galactus after the Big Bang


Where was that stated?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i just might u know, seein as mental treatment seems to have no affect on u n ur stepmom's trust fund is runnin out.............poor poor boy

This is really getting embarassing.

Humours really not your strong suit

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Where was that stated?

In the Galactus mini. Long story short, when Galactus lands on the Watcher's planet, he's found by a Watcher (go figure). He's in energy form and very vulnerable, but the Watcher is bound by his oath not to kill him (ergo interfering).

As time passes though he goes kinda apeshit realizing his failure to kill Galactus when he could've lead to so much death. He f*cks up a few galaxies, basically moving the suns and planets into a matrix of his choosing.

Galactus and Nova follow him. There are no more humans on Earth, so Galactus decides to finally eat it. He's at full power and goes after the Watcher. He finds him and starts fighting him.

It states on panel they fight till the end of the Universe, and then after Galactus wins, he rips open his armor, and all the energy he had accumulated in the span of his lifetime explodes creating the new Big Bang.

Nova becomes the new world-eater.

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
In the Galactus mini. Long story short, when Galactus lands on the Watcher's planet, he's found by a Watcher (go figure). He's in energy form and very vulnerable, but the Watcher is bound by his oath not to kill him (ergo interfering).

As time passes though he goes kinda apeshit realizing his failure to kill Galactus when he could've lead to so much death. He f*cks up a few galaxies, basically moving the suns and planets into a matrix of his choosing.

Galactus and Nova follow him. There are no more humans on Earth, so Galactus decides to finally eat it. He's at full power and goes after the Watcher. He finds him and starts fighting him.

It states on panel they fight till the end of the Universe, and then after Galactus wins, he rips open his armor, and all the energy he had accumulated in the span of his lifetime explodes creating the new Big Bang.

Nova becomes the new world-eater.

Thats not canon though so unfortunately it doesnt count.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats not canon though so unfortunately it doesnt count.

It's not? How come?

ps: It's called "The last Galactus Story". Here's the ending page.

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
It's not? How come?

ps: It's called "The last Galactus Story". Here's the ending page.

The fact that Novas dead in 616 should tell you its not continuity. Thats a possible future.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The fact that Novas dead in 616 should tell you its not continuity. Thats a possible future.

someone's dead in Marvel? Alert the media
She could be back among the living in a heartbeat
Thing is, that wasn't a what if, and i haven't seen anything that would indicate that that is a "possible" or "alternate" future, so i don't see why it's not canon
Either way, even if it isn't canon, i wouldn't call Nova a chump...

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
someone's dead in Marvel? Alert the media
She could be back among the living in a heartbeat
Thing is, that wasn't a what if, and i haven't seen anything that would indicate that that is a "possible" or "alternate" future, so i don't see why it's not canon
Either way, even if it isn't canon, i wouldn't call Nova a chump...

The fact that it hasnt happened, the fact that it depicts a future event tells you that it isnt within continuity.

Yeah people do come back to life alot but that doesnt mean Nova is suddenly going to just to fit in with a one shot.

Either way as far as we know theres no indication whatsoever that thats actually the future for 616 whereas theres several reasons that tell you it is nothing but a possible future.

Nova isnt a chump but shes no match for the other heralds.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The fact that it hasnt happened, the fact that it depicts a future event tells you that it isnt within continuity.

Yeah people do come back to life alot but that doesnt mean Nova is suddenly going to just to fit in with a one shot.

Either way as far as we know theres no indication whatsoever that thats actually the future for 616 whereas theres several reasons that tell you it is nothing but a possible future.

Nova isnt a chump but shes no match for the other heralds.

Yeah.......you have a point. I liked that story arc though. It was ok.
Yeah, she's not a match for Morg or some of the others. But she's gold





God......i need a life

1. Asgardian Destroyer is likely the most powerful
2. Silver Surfer, I don't think anyone would argue here
3. Morg, beat Surfer 1-1 in first meeting, Surfer beat him 1-1 in subsequent meeting
4. Red Shift, powers are more varied than anyone lower
5. Terrax, likely just as powerful as Firelord but all out meaner
6. Firelord
7. Airwalker, supposed to be the most vulnerable of all heralds but military training puts him above...
8. Nova

i'll put redshift below even airwalker cause the surfer took him out like it was nothing.

Originally posted by thesilverspider
i'll put redshift below even airwalker cause the surfer took him out like it was nothing.

it's not an accurate ranking system

urizen, gs is arguing so stridently against it because if it WERE canon, it would mean galactus, NOT the pf was the force that ended the universe and that would throw all pf theories out the window!!

This needs to be moved, but I can't do anything about it from this computer right now...

Originally posted by leonidas
urizen, gs is arguing so stridently against it because if it WERE canon, it would mean galactus, NOT the pf was the force that ended the universe and that would throw all pf theories out the window!!

Not necessarily. If you read that page i attached, it says the Universe dies around them until they're all that's left. Galactus isn't the cause of the death of the Universe. He's the cause of the new Big Bang.

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Not necessarily. If you read that page i attached, it says the Universe dies around them until they're all that's left. Galactus isn't the cause of the death of the Universe. He's the cause of the new Big Bang.

so he is still responsible for the creation of the next universe then something g's claims that pheonix will eventually do.

Originally posted by leonidas
urizen, gs is arguing so stridently against it because if it WERE canon, it would mean galactus, NOT the pf was the force that ended the universe and that would throw all pf theories out the window!!

To be honest i never even thought of that. So stop jumping to conclusions!!! Im really not obsessive like that

I was just arguing the point that it wasnt canon because the reasons which made that the case were so obvious to me yet D.U. at the time couldnt see that. So i was just pointing them out until he did.

Now you've highlighted that point to me i'll be downloading this issue. Thanks Leo.

<<Now you've highlighted that point to me i'll be downloading this issue. Thanks Leo.>>

that's why i'm here.


and speaking of downloads -- coughhomcough --

It seems to me, the weaker the herald, the more loyal they will be to Galactus

Originally posted by AcousticDoc
It seems to me, the weaker the herald, the more loyal they will be to Galactus
no not true since the surfer is still loyal to galactus.

Sorry DU, but, "The Last Galactus Story (The Ending that Never Was)" That's what your scan says, and stuff like that's usually a pretty good indicator of something that... never... actually... happened...

Anyhoo,
1. Asgardian Destroyer. Went up against 9 Celestials, and lasted a little bit. Didn't really do much but get slowly melted, but the fact that it actually took time is something.
2. Surfer. Yadda yadda, he's the Silver freaking Surfer.
3. Probably Fallen One. He hasn't shown power to the degree that Surfer has, but it's implied that they're at least pretty comparable.
4. Morg. He might edge FO, but whatever. He's evil now, which inherently makes him cooler, but weaker, than his good counterpart. (Surfer)
5. Red Shift. Surfer beats up everyone...
6. Terrax. DIDN'T job to Spiderman.
7. Firelord. See Terrax. But he DID job to Spiderman.
8. Airwalker. Haha, he's weaker than Firelord. And that's sad.
9. Nova. coughWEAKcough. I actually like Nova, but she's just so damn... weak... and inexperienced and all that.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Sorry DU, but, "The Last Galactus Story (The Ending that Never Was)" That's what your scan says, and stuff like that's usually a pretty good indicator of something that... never... actually... happened...



Thought that might have something to do with the fact that what happens in the comic happens at the end of the universe which hasn't....you know....occured yet?