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Mr.M comes from the 5th dimension and he has incredible power in the 3rd, is there a dimension higher than th 5th and how much power would that person/people have?

....................The 6th dimension............

Entities in their own realm, cosmic level beings like Watchers or LT, Vishanti

oh the beyond realm, the realm of manifestations (someing on those lines where) the infinties were seen/communicated

DC has a 10th Dimension. Marvel has a 13th.

Wildstorm has all the higher dimensions coming off the bleed

DC has 10 dimentions

However, judging by the sixth dimensional beings that came in JLA a few years ago, Mxy ranks far far far above them in power. Despite lower on the dimension scale.

In Quantum Theory, the universe has 10 dimension, the 10nth dimension is where all consciousness meets and becomes "God".

The Crown is the highest possible dimension that surveys all. Beyond it is the Unmanifest God.

That was for you Mr Splat.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Crown is the highest possible dimension that surveys all. Beyond it is the Unmanifest God.

That was for you Mr Splat.

drivel I'm afraid

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
drivel I'm afraid

In your opinion.

Which is hardly reliable.

The Crown is the highest point of existence and the closest anything can get to the Unmanifest.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Unmanifest.

"unmanifest"

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
"unmanifest"

Yes.Unmanifest

Oh here we go again (yess!!)

My 2 cents worth...

The creation that goes on at the quantum level is one thing, different from Creation having to do with "God," defined as Highest Spirit. Ever since the "Tao of Physics" came out back in the, what, 1970s?, there has been a populist tendency to confuse the quantum implicate order with divine creation. It is instead (according to the transpersonalist model) a "collapsing of the hierarchy," a confusing of the Entire Reality Hierarchy with the physical holoarchy.

Man, I love this stuff...

pizza

are there any characters you know of coming from a dimension higher than 5 or 6? and if so who and what kinda power level do they have? am i right in assuming the higher the dimension the more powerful its inhabitents?

are you talking about dimensions,what about realms ad marid universes, other planes of existance or do you just care of dimensions lie the 5th and so on if so,i can't help you there.

like 5, 6 ,7, 8, 9, 10 dimensions? or i guess other realms too.

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/

A sensible description of the Phoenix force here.

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/phoenix_force.html

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
A sensible description of the Phoenix force here.

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/phoenix_force.html

Hmm. As I understand this, according to this data, then the Phoenix Force -- essentially being psionic in nature -- is really not an "archetypal" or divine-creative force. Of course, this all does depend on how Marvel chooses to define its terms.

Good site.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
A sensible description of the Phoenix force here.

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/phoenix_force.html

Sensible because it fits in with your own opinion Whirly?

A number of posters on your own poorly executed anti phoenix thread have shown evidence which totally discredits this fansite. If this fan were to come and post on KMC we'd soon set them on the right path.

I'll tell you what Whirly instead of sitting on the sidelines popping up occassionally to make anti-phoenix comments why dont you present a well supported argument as to why your interpretation is correct?

Originally posted by Mindship
Hmm. As I understand this, according to this data, then the Phoenix Force -- essentially being psionic in nature -- is really not an "archetypal" or divine-creative force. Of course, this all does depend on how Marvel chooses to define its terms.

Good site.

Dont be fooled MS. That fansite was specifically chosen by Whirly because it fits in most closely with his own view which is basically Phoenix is as low ranking a cosmic entity as i can make her.


Ive never seen that site before and im a big Phoenix fan. That must have taken alot of searching

Others including this excellent fan site disagree oh and the handbook which agrees with this fansite and me.

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosm...enix_force.html

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Others including this excellent fan site disagree oh and the handbook which agrees with this fansite and me.

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosm...enix_force.html

The handbook perfectly agrees with me as it still shows that Crown is very much still a central part of Marvel ("the core of creation" and Phoenix is till linked with it.

On top of that it reaffirms that Jean and Phoenix are one and the same. It actually states that Jean is an actual part of the Phoenix manifestation.

With all that in mind it just seems that you and these fansites youre so fond of really need to go back to the drawing board.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The handbook perfectly agrees with me as it still shows that Crown is very much still a central part of Marvel ("the core of creation" and Phoenix is till linked with it.

On top of that it reaffirms that Jean and Phoenix are one and the same. It actually states that Jean is an actual part of the Phoenix manifestation.

With all that in mind it just seems that you and these fansites youre so fond of really need to go back to the drawing board.

The handbook really doesn't you interpret it wrong, this website and I are right probably.

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosm...enix_force.html

Originally posted by Mindship
Hmm. As I understand this, according to this data, then the Phoenix Force -- essentially being psionic in nature -- is really not an "archetypal" or divine-creative force. Of course, this all does depend on how Marvel chooses to define its terms.

Good site.

It is and is a lot more likely to be right than some forum member who is not Whirly

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
The handbook really doesn't you interpret it wrong, this website and I are right probably.

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosm...enix_force.html



Present a well supported argument as to why youre so right then Whirly.

You just cant do it. Youre hierarchy thread was an attempt to discredit Phoenix an attempt to rub my face in what you thought was a retcon. As always you were quite incorrect and im still going strong.

Whats so funny is that in my absence a number of posters actually dismissed your awful ideas and lent their support to mine.

According to your bio the crown is still around and Jean and Phoenix are indeed one. Wheres the retcon?

Awwwww never mind

Read the bio like the people on this site

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosm...enix_force.html

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Read the bio like the people on this site

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosm...enix_force.html




So youre now saying this fansites bio has more validity than the handbook you were previously championing.

Whys that? I guess cos the handbook supports my case just fine.

Again i say never mind mate. You tried

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So youre now saying this fansites bio has more validity than the handbook you were previously championing.

Whys that? I guess cos the handbook supports my case just fine.

Again i say never mind mate. You tried

It uses the handbook for its interpretation. It just doesn't extrapolate based on what it wishes. Thats the difference between it and you GS.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
It uses the handbook for its interpretation. It just doesn't extrapolate based on what it wishes. Thats the difference between it and you GS.

The Crown is central to Marvel as per the handbook, Jean is one with the Phoenix Force. Two points stated in the handbook no speculation no extrapolation. Both points are key to my interpretation.

Im ever so sorry mate.

Let it go.

Originally posted by Mindship
Hmm. As I understand this, according to this data, then the Phoenix Force -- essentially being psionic in nature -- is really not an "archetypal" or divine-creative force. Of course, this all does depend on how Marvel chooses to define its terms.

Good site.

agreed

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
At the end of the day the handbook states what it states.

and many think it state something contrary to you which id why you left the forum for a few weeks to come up with a new line of rubbish which sti doesn't fit the handbook in most peoples opinion.

That's OK GS smile

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat




and many think it state something contrary to you which id why you left the forum for a few weeks to come up with a new line of rubbish which sti doesn't fit the handbook in most peoples opinion.

That's OK GS smile

Whatever you say mate.

As aforementioned the handbook states what it states. Included within are points ive been stating for the last 6 months, points central to my interpretation. Your interpretation doesnt accommodate those points and as such like most of your X-related posts is inaccurate. Any interpretation which doesnt accommodate what the handbook says is inaccurate.

You and your fansites are dismissed.

Unlucky mate.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Hardly the case. Anyone with common sense can see that this character is not the supreme being.


So basically SHHHHHH!!!

You mean Phoenix its ok I'll shsss I won't tell anyone trust me



Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Quality over quantity


the irony of that statement is lost on none I suspect

Keep the quaility

Stay Whirly


Classic

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
You mean Phoenix its ok I'll shsss I won't tell anyone trust me





the irony of that statement is lost on none I suspect

Keep the quaility

Stay Whirly


Classic

What has what i said in another thread about another subject got to do with this thread?

I mentioned nothing about Phoenix at all in that thread as it wasnt relevant.

Desperate measures i guess and still you have changed NOT A THING

Its funny reposted for fun, your statements have nothing to do with higher dimensional space read Kaku "Hyperspace" then post.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Hardly the case. Anyone with common sense can see that this character is not the supreme being.


So basically SHHHHHH!!!

You mean Phoenix its ok I'll shsss I won't tell anyone trust me



Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Quality over quantity


the irony of that statement is lost on none I suspect

Keep the quaility

Stay Whirly


Classic

Whirly we've both said all that needs to be said. So lets not carry this on. We're spoiling peoples threads and thats not on. Be grown up about it.