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ok, even if dumbledore did fake the death, which i hope he did, WHY DID HE DO IT?

to catch voldie off guard or something, let voldie think his horcrux secret is safe? cause there is still slughorn... hmmm

and what about the portrait? dumbledore is sleeping in it when harry walks in the the HEADMISTRISS's office, maybe dumbledore is dead, but didnt want to discuss any of his reasons for dying (still planned with snape and snape is good) because harry NEEDS to go back to privet dr for the last time

discuss? sorry if this has allll already been said im a NOOOOOB

i bet he even asked snape to kill him

hmmm...good point.

don't agree the idea that dumbledore tricked the entire wizarding world...

IMHO
I doubt Dumbledore would want to TRICK the entire wizarding world just to defeat Voldemort...

That's the reason HArry was born... --- to defeat the dark lord...

dumbledores the most powerful wizard in da world he wudnt just die like dat n y did he take 2 harry like son? i think he knew sunfin but didnt let on they had a well strong bond........y?

Originally posted by sammii
dumbledores the most powerful wizard in da world he wudnt just die like dat

Of course, he is the most powerful wizard! But the book never mentioned that he was immortal...

Thousands of powerful witches and wizards die -- just like that --- with the "Avada Kedavra Curse." don't they?

yeh but dd wud av been able 2 do sumfin mabe him n snape planned it or mabey he decided 2 di 4 harry .......mabe thers a secret dd hasn,t told harry n he,ll find out in the 7thn dd died 2 easy as far as im concernd

well, you have your opinion...

and i have mine...

dontgetit

yeh fine ok fair enough= i till dnt no what i think but i think dd is dead ,but he died so easy n ive always liked snape xxxx

Agreed...

Yeah some of u may be right, but as far as i can see is that Dumbledore did die too easily, if you think about it, most good guys like dumbledore never really go out without a bang!!
also i reckon that dumbledore could of died like he did because he planned it, maybe not with anyone else but with himself.

yeh i stil dnt no what 2 think coz both dises of the arguments are reallly good and have good evidence .......but still i think dd is dead ?????

People, he's dead. He's in the portrait because all the dead headmistresses/masters go there. I hate the news too. But he's dead. Snape was on the bad side all along. We all should've known that... PM.

SNAPE IS GOOD! DD is dead. He wanted to die, or JKR wanted him to die, because he was holding Harry back (same a Sirius). His death means that Harry is gonna leave school, and gives him another motive to kill Voldie.

people, get a grip, dumbledore didn't trick the wizarding world, he's dead. Stop dwelling on false hope....i swear to god, if i see one more of these n00bish threads about dumbledore. He needed to die so Harry could face voldemort. Accept it, embrace it. O.k? J.K said that when she kills a character, he's gone, meaning Dumbly is gone.

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
people, get a grip, dumbledore didn't trick the wizarding world, he's dead. Stop dwelling on false hope....i swear to god, if i see one more of these n00bish threads about dumbledore. He needed to die so Harry could face voldemort. Accept it, embrace it. O.k? J.K said that when she kills a character, he's gone, meaning Dumbly is gone.
Translation:

Get a grip, Everyone. Dumbledore didn't trick the wizarding world, he's dead. Stop dwelling on false hope....I swear, if i see one more of these threads about Dumbledore 'drunking teh magic potion', or 'snap didntt do teh curse write cuz he didstn hate dd!!11'..

Harry needed him to die so he could face Voldemort. Accept it. Embrace the Truth! J.K has said that when she kills a character, he's gone, meaning Dumbledore is gone.

Just here to Help.

lol dd id dead ,if he came back in the 7th book it would be to predicted ,and basically boaring ...........

if he came back in the 7th book, it helps explain what harry is going to do, as dumbledore is the knowledge in the book, remember in the 6th book he was explaining all about voldie and all bout horcruxes, well if he wasnt there then we wouldnt understand a thing. so if dumbledore does come back it will help us.

yes it would help ,but th book would be so preditabl and since when has jk givin us a story when we know whats going to happen ,we like twists nin the story somethigs unpreddictable ....

a bit confused, if dumdore died in film no 4 then how can he explain stuff in book no.6

who said he died in book 4,nobody did ,he died in the 6th book now people are making presumptions about the 7th

what i don't understand is why did he freeze harry instead of just defeating Malfoy which he could of easily done. The only explanation could be that he wanted to die therefore Snape is not evil and was just doing what he was told to do.

EXACTLY.

Originally posted by Dresta
what i don't understand is why did he freeze harry instead of just defeating Malfoy which he could of easily done. The only explanation could be that he wanted to die therefore Snape is not evil and was just doing what he was told to do.



Errr... IMHO

He didn't want to die... Nobody wants to die for a stupid reason...

He didn't defeat Malfoy because he knew that deep down... there was still hope he could change Draco's mind...

yep i agree

yeah!

Originally posted by sammii
lol dd id dead ,if he came back in the 7th book it would be to predicted ,and basically boaring ...........

but every 1 predicted he was going to die in book 6

good point , but tats because jk had prevously said qa major character would die and it couldn,t be harry ron or hermione ,shat a good conclusion ppl cjame up with

And there are two other reasons you could predict he would die.
First lets look at DDs role in the book. He had two major purposes.
1. he told Harry everything he needed to know
2. he was a parent figure for Harry.
now you could tell he would die because
1. he told Harry everything
2. Harry has to face voldie alone.

Originally posted by Ashea16Chic
Errr... IMHO

He didn't want to die... Nobody wants to die for a stupid reason...

He didn't defeat Malfoy because he knew that deep down... there was still hope he could change Draco's mind...

there is no way that he would of risked that much on one person changing their mind if he thought he was still needed alive. He would have just hav defended himself unless he either wanted to die or already was.

yes but dd always believed in 2nd second chances ,and he was right to think he could turn Draco into the good side ,he nearly did until the death eaters interrupted,and he knew if harry was not immobilised then he had a chance of being killed ,and dd did not want that because harry has to go on to defeat voldemort

I think Snape killed him beacause Snape had made the unforgiving promise or something like that to Draco's Mom that he wouldn't let any harm come upon Draco.

And when Dumbledore was about to Harm Draco at the end, Snape had to interfere because he made the unforgivable promise to Draco mom that he wouldn't let anything happen to Draco, and he had to do something to Dumbledore because he knew that dumbledore was about to hurt or harm Draco.

Originally posted by Dresta
there is no way that he would of risked that much on one person changing their mind if he thought he was still needed alive. He would have just hav defended himself unless he either wanted to die or already was.


He didn't think that he was "risking" anything because he wasn't aware that the death eaters were following Malfoy's trail...

Other than that... how can you say that he would not have risked that much on one person?
I still remember his line when he said to Harry...
"I don't care how many nameless and faceless people die... as long as you live..." more or less that's the thought of the line...

^^ He's willing to give up other wizards...



^^ ??

yep other wizards including himself , not 4 getting he knew he could turn draco 2 the good side which , as i say again he nearly did

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
people, get a grip, dumbledore didn't trick the wizarding world, he's dead. Stop dwelling on false hope....i swear to god, if i see one more of these n00bish threads about dumbledore. He needed to die so Harry could face voldemort. Accept it, embrace it. O.k? J.K said that when she kills a character, he's gone, meaning Dumbly is gone.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!

lol