Jedi Master Padmé Naberrie

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Twilight Janick

overlord
Damn.. This is totally irrelevant, not to mention stupid.

DrDoom101
If Padme was a Jedi, she never would have met Anakin. In TPM, the queen was supposed to be taken to Naboo; however, the ship broke down and they had an emergency stop on Tatooine. Therefore, if Padme wasnt a queen but a Jedi, then Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan would have escorted some other person to Naboo.

Twilight Janick
We'd assume she was on mission with both Qu-Gon and Obi-Wan because of her experience of Naboo (like Daakman Barrek with Hypori, though two of his subordinates were superior to himself in the Order's hierarchy)

Master Naresh
this is pointless , if she was a jedi she won't need guardians(obi wan and qui gon) and they won't send a new jedi with a master and his padawan,this could upset the relationship betweent master and padawan and she won't met ani,etc

Se7in
There's actually too many variables to consider what would happen. She could've been killed on a Jedi mission, she might have been killed sparring with a fellow padawan, she could've gotten pregnant by Yoda, we don't know and never will.

overlord
She would've gotten killed by little Mauly.

Tangible God
Chaos Theory and the Butterfly effect. If anything happened out of order from TPM, or something different happened instead of the status quo...then events as we know it wuldn't have occurred.

The queen's escape. For all we know, a different monarch may have stood and fought. They might have been led down a different staircase than the one which led to Qui-gon and Obi rescuing them.

They might not have spoken to Gunray before the invasion.

Right from the get-go, if you remove the status-quo of TPM, NOTHING would have played out the way things did.

DarthMaul9123
well she would have been in training in the temple she wasnt old enough to be a master, obiwan kenobi was older than her in TPM and therefore she would be off with another master or still with yoda training, cin drallig, or saisee tiin for all we know

truejedi
she wasn't even force sensitive for all we know! what if wato had been trained by the Jedi? Maybe anakin's master wouldn't have been a betting man and anakin would still be on tattoine (sp) repairing droids.

Tangible God
Yeah, unlike KOTOR, where seemingly ANYBODY has the potential to be recruited as a Dark Jedi on Korriban, the movies have some limitations.

Alkaselzer
Worth noting that Padme isn't Force sensitive.

Captain REX
Seriously, she wasn't.

Twilight Janick
But how could she give birth to two Force-sensitive children if she wasn't?

Tangible God
ANAKIN WAS THE FATHER YOU NUMBSKULL!

Sheesh! Do you even listen to the dialogue in the movies?

Twilight Janick

Tangible God
You're trying to deliver logic into SW?

Twilight Janick

Tangible God
For one, Humans are different from aliens. Second, PROVE that Plagueis is Anakin's father.

Captain REX
Which you can't. Janick's theory is completely unfounded. The Force isn't a genetic trait.

Twilight Janick

Tangible God
Both would be human, both of their genes apply.

And again, no matter how you angle it...it's till SW. The Force works in mysterious ways that we Earthlings can't understand.

And you know why? Because it doesn't exist.

SW and Earth-bound logic, don't mix.

Twilight Janick
But take that quote from Shatterpoint:

In the Temple archives, there are reports of the Jedi anthropologists that have studied the Korun tribes. They have a theory that a Jedi spacecraft might be forced to make a crash landing perhaps thousands of years ago during the Sith War, when so many Jedi were lost to history. There are several metal-eating fungi native to that planet, and comm equipment qould be equally vulnerable. A ship that cannot take off immediately would be grounded forever.

This is the best explanation for a curious genetic fact: all Korunnai can touch the Force.

This is the ONLY evidence as to justify genetic involvement in Force matters.

Tangible God
Except midi-chlorians. We're discussing HUMANS here, it's different.

henniestevens
Han Solo is not sensitive for the force, still he gets force sensitive kids, because of Leia's genes. So it's clear just 1 of the parents needs to be force sensitive.

Twilight Janick

overlord
Twilight Janick.. I think you are the most intelligent man I have ever come across on the internet. I think the potential you show supercedes even Anakins potential. Who are your parents if I may be so free to ask?

Tangible God

Darth_Amidala
*opens mouth to say something then thinks better and turns around to walk out*
Well, wait.....Padme is probably not force sensitive, but I can see where your suspicions lie....

In Padme's apartment one morning.

"Something is wrong, isn't it?"-Padme

"You should have been a Jedi."-Obi-Wan


At the senate session towards the end of Revenge of the Sith.

"Padme, what you're talking about--what we're not talking about--it could take twenty years! Are you under suspicion? What are you going to do?"-Bail Organa

"Don't worry about me, I don't know I'll live that long."


This all does not mean she is truly force sensitive though, besides, the movies would not be the same if she was.
Another "what if" thread.


~S.L. cool

Twilight Janick
I know my oafish parents have one Force-sensitive gene each, and I have both.

Tangible God
Originally posted by Twilight Janick
I know my oafish parents have one Force-sensitive gene each, and I have both. And God did say: "Yay, and too make most humans feel smart, there will be baffoons who dwell amongst them...their baffoon king shall be Paul Martin, and their God, Twilight Janick."

Captain REX
Janick's an idiot, hurray.

The Force, as I see it, is not a gene in someone; there are Jedi that have non-potential children. The Force chooses, and it is just more likely to choose someone who has a Jedi parent. It's not 'The X chromosome has midichlorians stuck to it!' and such.

Twilight Janick
But most Jedi that have non-potential children are either: victims of genetic mutations or married to non-Force-sensitive people.

Captain REX
Right. Like Anakin.

Your theory doesn't work, so stop trying.

Lightsnake
It is true that force sensitives' children have a greater force affinity....however, Not everyone can be trained....did Padme even possess the Force?

The Ones
no.

Anakin was force sensitive. Add to that he was the chosen one and the medichlorians are higher than yoda's. He combined his genes which are force sensitve with padmes non force sensitive genes. Luke and Leia are force sensitive

Twilight Janick

Tangible God

Captain REX
Janick, you can't apply Earth logic to Star Wars; simple as that. And you can't try to call it 'Kaminoan logic' either, because the Kaminoans aren't from Earth, and that is pure stupidity.

Twilight Janick

Tangible God

Lightsnake
Who says Shmi wasn't Force Sensitive somewhat? And Han's girl was LEia Skywalker....Padme's man was the Son of the Force

Twilight Janick
Assume SW humans have the same DNA structure as Earth humans do, then everything I presented checks out. In that case, what we know about genetics here is applicable to SW as well. I am asking you to prove that SW humans don't have the same 46 chromosomes.

Some backstage source states that the Kaminoans have to recondition seven clones for each group of 200 produced, we on Earth might have to recondition as many as 2,000 clones to have only one perfectly done one.

Captain REX

Twilight Janick
Originally posted by Captain REX
No, there aren't. You can't use Earth logic for ANYTHING.

Kaminoans are big on genetics. So what? Completely useless to your argument.

You're contradicting yourself as well.

The Force is not a damned gene! It is a 'mystical energy field (continue Yoda quote here),' not some biological thing. Midichlorians have to do with it, but they're not part of genetics!

The Kaminoan thing is used as much as to say that the Kaminoans might say the same things I do.

How do I contradict myself?

Ginger16
have you considered the fact that Jedi generally don't have children since they are not allowed to. Anakin, Luke and Leia are one of them stanglelers that don't apply the rules. So the fact is that the parent does't have to be force sensitive, the children just are. I mean in expanded universe, Chewbacca nephew Lowbacca is on NO jedi background unless yoda did some Wookie lady when he was on the planet. Lowbacca still trained with Jacen Jaina and Anakin.

Darth Hawkeye
The force sensitive children aren't made by a gene. Its how when there born if the force choses them the be sesitive within the force

Twilight Janick
Originally posted by Ginger16
have you considered the fact that Jedi generally don't have children since they are not allowed to. Anakin, Luke and Leia are one of them stanglelers that don't apply the rules. So the fact is that the parent does't have to be force sensitive, the children just are. I mean in expanded universe, Chewbacca nephew Lowbacca is on NO jedi background unless yoda did some Wookie lady when he was on the planet. Lowbacca still trained with Jacen Jaina and Anakin.

Every SW race can have Force-sensitive children, even Wookies, Neimoidians, Geonosians, Gungans and so forth.

overlord
Originally posted by Darth Hawkeye
The force sensitive children aren't made by a gene. Its how when there born if the force choses them the be sesitive within the force Yeah, the force choses people.. You made that up just because of the chosen one prophecy, didn't you?

Twilight Janick
The genes only affect if people are sensitive or not. Their level of power is determined by the midi-chlorians.

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