First Kazza etc and now song lyric sites

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Sir Whirlysplat
Song sites face legal crackdown
Here's the BS

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Song sites face legal crackdown

By Ian Youngs
BBC News entertainment reporter



The music industry is to extend its copyright war by taking legal action against websites offering unlicensed song scores and lyrics. The US Music Publishers' Association (MPA), which represents sheet music companies, will launch its first campaign against such sites in 2006.
MPA president Lauren Keiser said he wanted site owners to be jailed.
He said unlicensed guitar tabs and song scores were widely available on the internet but were "completely illegal".
Mr Keiser said he did not just want to shut websites and impose fines, saying if authorities can "throw in some jail time I think we'll be a little more effective".
Bitter battles
The move comes after several years of bitter legal battles against unauthorised services allowing users to download recordings for free.
Publishing companies have taken action against websites in the past, but this will be the first co-ordinated legal campaign by the MPA.
The MPA would target "very big sites that people would think are legitimate and very, very popular", Mr Keiser said.
"The Xerox machine was the big usurper of our potential income," he said. "But now the internet is taking more of a bite out of sheet music and printed music sales so we're taking a more proactive stance."
David Israelite, president of the National Music Publishers' Association, added his concerns.
"Unauthorised use of lyrics and tablature deprives the songwriter of the ability to make a living, and is no different than stealing," he said.
"Music publishers and songwriters will consider all tools under the law to stop this illegal behaviour."
Sandro del Greco, who runs Tabhall.co.uk, said the issue was not serious enough to warrant jail time and sites like his were not necessarily depriving publishers of income.
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"I play the drums mainly but I play the guitar as well. I run the website and I still buy the books," he said.
"The tabs online aren't deadly accurate so if someone really wants to know it they'll buy the book.
"But most of the bands I listen to don't have tab books to buy so if you get them online, that's the only way you can really learn it unless you work it out yourself."
The campaign comes after lyric-finding software PearLyrics was forced off the internet by a leading music publishing company, Warner Chappell.
'No alternative'
PearLyrics worked with Apple's iTunes, searching the internet to find lyrics for songs in a user's collection.
"I just don't see why PearLyrics should infringe the copyright of Warner Chappell because all I'm doing is searching publicly-available websites," PearLyrics developer Walter Ritter said.
"It would be different if they had an alternative service that also provided lyrics online and also integrated like PearLyrics did. But they don't offer anything like that at all."
A Warner Chappell statement said the company wanted to ensure songwriters were "fairly compensated for their works and that legitimate sites with accurate lyrics are not undermined by unlicensed sites".
"We have requested that PearWorks provide us with information regarding the sources of their lyrics, and have further asked that they discontinue the service if these sources are operating without a licence."


Ever wondered what the lyrics for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" are and looked them up online? Well, according to the RIAA and David Israelite, you were stealing because the RIAA owns all things that has to do with music. Hell, if a car blasting its speakers while playing 50 Cent passed you by on the road and you didn't stick your fingers in your ears, you were stealing music from the RIAA. What a bunch of pricks!

Lana
I read this article a couple days ago....and I must say, it's going into the realm of ridiculousness.

Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by Lana
I read this article a couple days ago....and I must say, it's going into the realm of ridiculousness.

Yup it is.

Imaginary
As I said on another forum, that's insane.

Capt_Fantastic
I can agree with the publishing of sheet music.

I don't see a problem with publishing the lyrics on your sites.

However, the real issue in all of this, in my opinion, is that companies of every kind are going to have to adapt as times change. So, while I agree with the suite in favor of the sheet music industry, it is going to have to learn to adapt to the times. Slap a charge for those sites to be used, and call it a day. In fact, I'll wager that in this day and age, that the sheet music companies could damn well be better served by going on-line anyway.

As the internet becomes more and more diverse, easily accesed and available, so too will the way these companies stay in buisness.

Lana
It's not the sheetmusic that I have a problem with....it's the fit they're throwing over the posting of song lyrics. FFS, sometimes the lyrics don't even come in the liner notes. Then how are you supposed to be able to find them out?

As I said, ridiculous.

tabby999
indeed, new Korn cd, no lyrics, how else am i supposed to get them. I'm not going to write a letter to Jonothan asking him to write them down for me. this is just legal eagles going totally overboard and trying to do something that will never work

Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by Lana
It's not the sheetmusic that I have a problem with....it's the fit they're throwing over the posting of song lyrics. FFS, sometimes the lyrics don't even come in the liner notes. Then how are you supposed to be able to find them out?

As I said, ridiculous.

I play guitar (badly) and have played (badly) for 25 years confused I love the net as it gives me access to Tab arrangements of most songs.

This will piss me off.

RedAlertv2
"Ridiculous" sums it all up. I dont see the problem with learning to play someone elses song.

Darth Jello
meh, i hope they choke to death

Darth Jello
the RIAA is a cartel so THEY are an illegal organization anyway

tabby999
half the time the Tabs (especially for bass) are only half right, you end up figuring it out for yourself. the people filing these cases have WAY too much time on their hands

RedAlertv2
"Unauthorised use of lyrics and tablature deprives the songwriter of the ability to make a living"

How?

TwisterGameX
Wait limewire lives

manny321
idiots.

lowrider370
kazaa still lives and so does limewire soi whats the point? idiots

Spike Lee
buy music. Illegal downloading is an ethical issue.
As for lyrics, that is not welcomed by me.

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