Mace Windu versus Yoda versus Count Dooku

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kingkman
Set in the temple training room. 3 way fight between some of the most powerful force users in the Prequel Era.

Escape81
If Mace and Dooku play smart, they'd team up and kill Yoda - who is the most powerful person there. If they do that, then they'd get him out of the way - and then Mace and Dooku would fight. I think Mace would win that one.

But Yoda would win otherwise.

Tangible God
Yeah, that's it in a Brazil Nut.

kingkman
Even if each contestant is completely unbiased, I think that Mace and Yoda would team up against Dooku because they would know that they had to be careful of his lightning and then I'm going to have to go with Mace. Yoda relies too much on the force, without it he would be useless and after Dooku would have lost a bit of force energy whereas Mace would be prepared for him.

Tangible God
How do you know he'll be prepared? And how do you know Yoda won't?

kingkman
Yoda would be slightly tired after Count Dooku. remember that Yoda uses an incredible amount of Force energy while in basic combat.

Captain REX
Yoda and Dooku are better swordsmen than Mace, is the thing.

Darth Traya
I think Yoda could well lose this one. Yoda was panting for breath after half a minute of combat with Dooku. Add Windu battering him every so often, I think Yoda could well tire out.

Council#13
Agreed

henniestevens
I think everyone uses a lot of force energy, while fighting. not just yoda.
And he might have been out of breath after a half minute fighting dooku, but when the fight would have been longer he would have the stamina to go on. Just like in sports you can be out of breath after the warming up, but during the match you can go on much and much longer.
Further I think Yoda would have defeated Dooku if he didn't escaped.
Therefore it's irrelevant to use Yoda catching his breath as an argument.
Still I'm not sure what the outcome of this fight would be, since there are 3 combatants. 1 on 1 Yoda would defeat both of them I think, but all together Mace or Dooku could win. As long as Yoda would die or be injured first.

Council#13
Yoda wasnt catching his breath, he was computer animated!!!!!! ranting anyway, he probably looked like that cause he was upset he had to let Dooku escape

kamikz
I agree, Dooku looked just as tired after he fought Anakin but when Yoda came in he was like new. Same with Yoda, he did alot more jumping and had alot longer fight with Sidious still he didn't look tired there at all. He was probably just breathing hard, that means nothing.

kingkman
Originally posted by Captain REX
Yoda and Dooku are better swordsmen than Mace, is the thing.

That's debatable.

overlord
Dooku's way of fighting is based on stalling and tiring out opponents to kill them with well placed blows. Ataru is very tiring so as for the Yoda factor; I think Yoda would have to play it fast and effective before dying due to fatigue.
As for Mace/Dooku; I am not really able to judge that properly.

It could very well be Dooku who lasts if there is no teaming up.

Darth Traya
Originally posted by henniestevens
I think everyone uses a lot of force energy, while fighting. not just yoda.
And he might have been out of breath after a half minute fighting dooku, but when the fight would have been longer he would have the stamina to go on. Just like in sports you can be out of breath after the warming up, but during the match you can go on much and much longer.
Further I think Yoda would have defeated Dooku if he didn't escaped.
Therefore it's irrelevant to use Yoda catching his breath as an argument.
Still I'm not sure what the outcome of this fight would be, since there are 3 combatants. 1 on 1 Yoda would defeat both of them I think, but all together Mace or Dooku could win. As long as Yoda would die or be injured first.

It's not irrelevant. Look at other Ataru users, Qui-Gon is tired out after a few seconds of fighting Darth Maul! Yoda is panting after half a minute of combat. If Yoda is fighting both Dooku and Windu at intervals, he is going to tire out eventually.

Yoda can win, but only if he goes in for the quick kill.

Blind Guardian
I really see Dooku as emerging victorious. Mace is a slower paced fighter, and Yoda is too old for this. Dooku is also a Sith, and uses aggressive Sith tactics with Form II mastery.

DarthMaul9123
yoda is too old to win this, same with dooks

Darth Traya
Age is irrelevant. It's the way you fight that matters.

DarthMaul9123
irrellevent hardly, old people tire faster and younger people have frequent addrenaline rushes. its in science, also whose to say mace could even last the begining whose to say that they dont team up on him, or on dooks

Darth Traya
Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
irrellevent hardly, old people tire faster and younger people have frequent addrenaline rushes. its in science, also whose to say mace could even last the begining whose to say that they dont team up on him, or on dooks

Considering that Dooku can use a single hand to sabre block both Anakin and Kenobi (using two hands and younger) then win the block and not show any exertion, I think in this fight it is.

Blind Guardian
Agreed.

overlord
Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
irrellevent hardly, old people tire faster and younger people have frequent addrenaline rushes. its in science, also whose to say mace could even last the begining whose to say that they dont team up on him, or on dooks Makashi doesn't tire the practicioner out, it's an effective style of dueling to kill with short well placed strikes wich can be kept up for a far longer while than other styles of dueling.
So your previous argument for Mace winning wasn't correct.

Ezekiel
Yoda does get pretty tired during his fights but his stood up to whom is apparently the most powerful Sith EVER in the Star Wars series (Arguably, of course.) but two MASTER Duelists teaming up on Yoda? It is ridiculous to think he would win. And then it would be down to Darth Tyranus versus Mace Windu. I think Tyranus would come out on top. He defeated Mace Windu once, but Mace has grown experience since then. So has Dooku as well. But Dooku has also been practicing and has apparently completely mastered a Dueling form that is purposely concentrative on 1VS1 Lightsaber Dueling.

Master Windu created a Lightsaber Form (With Help) and wasn't even using the Form during TPM and most likely started it during a little bit before AOTC began. Although it is a customized form, it hasn't had the time to develop and Makashi was said to have been used by Ancient Sith.


Not to mention Dooku has at least thirty years more experience than the Jedi Master. Of course the Duel would be long and vigorous, but I see the Old Man winning.

Lightsnake
If Mace and Dooku team up on Yoda, he'd never live...It's assumable that Yoda tires out after combat, but if he had to go into the next fight, the force would give him the stamina and energy. And Maul was a smart fighter at finishing Qui-Gon.

In the end, it'd prolly come down to Yoda or Dooku...

Great Vengeance
Yoda would beat both Dooku and Mace together...yes the distance between them is that great.

ssj3gohan007
I think Yoda and Mace would fight Dooku if this is sith dooku, because realistically they would take out the obvious enemy first, then they would fight each other and yoda with more experience would probably win if fights intelligently and uses his powers to their fullest extent.

exanda kane
Yoda tiring out cannot be a determiner in this argument simply because there are too many variables included in it. He may have just been breathing for dramatic effect, who knows?

I can imagine Yoda going rather mad and flipping out on both Mace and Dooku at the same time, with both other Masters spending there time parrying before Yoda manages to cut through one of there defences.

In any given fight I believe Mace would beat Dooku, yes Dooku has beaten him before, but Mace has progressed very, very far since that time. Even more so than Dooku.

kamikz
How can you be sure?

Dooku has a better lightsaber style against lightsabers.
He has shown better use of the force.
He has become a sith and learned to use the dark side.
He has 30 years on Mace.

I think Dooku has gained at least equal amount of experience and progress and might as well win.

exanda kane
Originally posted by kamikz
How can you be sure?

Dooku has a better lightsaber style against lightsabers.
He has shown better use of the force.
He has become a sith and learned to use the dark side.
He has 30 years on Mace.

I think Dooku has gained at least equal amount of experience and progress and might as well win.

I have little proof apart from assumptions from various sources, to numerous to note.

The way the narrative is set up shows Yoda and Sidious as equals and , in my interpretation, Dooku and Mace as equals. Now of course, there are variables, some would say Sidious beat Yoda quite well, but from a narrative point of view the main protagonist is Yoda, the main antagonist is Sidious, while lower down, Mace is the protagonist equal to Dooku (Anakin and Obi-Wan are excluded from this).

True, Dooku has learnt of the dark side, yet with Vapaad Mace may be able to use it against him, and lets not forget Mace is equally schooled in the light side of the force.

Now looking back on Dooku 30 yeaars ago, he would not be in the league of Mace. Mace has equalled or bettered Dooku with half the time. Mace literally has all the villains run from him (Grievous, Ventress etc.).

Now remember, these are not solid points, just my thoughts so its all hyperthetical.

Now Mace is able to overcome Sidious, yes Sids may well have thrown the fight, but Mace can still be rated as a duelist equal or higher than Anakin (who if you watched the dreadful RotS movie, you'd see owned Dooku quite well).

Yes, Makashi is a form that specialises in saber vs. saber combat, yet Vapaad is a form that can direct the anger back at the opponent, so yet again they are similarily matched.

Darth Hawkeye
I know somone will be mad at me for this but can someone in a quik non hateful asnwer tell me what arce Yoda is

Darth Faunus
If you tell us what an 'arce' is, we'll try.

If you mean race; it's an unknown, and will hopefully be left that way.

kamikz
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
If you tell us what an 'arce' is, we'll try.

If you mean race; it's an unknown, and will hopefully be left that way.


LMAO!!!!


Anyway about Exandas point.

Dooku faked against Anakin, he did not get owned.

So Dooku has the darke side which boosts his abilities and allows him to use offensive force powers so Dooku has the edge there.

So they are about equally matched in lightsabers, still Dooku has shown the abilitie of using the force at the same time he fights, very effectivley too.

Didn't he create Vaapad when he was 13??? Then he probably knew it when Dooku bested him before, and even though Mace might have become better at Vaapad, Dooku has mastered Makashi to the highest degree.

I think Dooku takes it because of superior force use and by a tiny margin saber use.


Damnit that they closed the Terradactyl thread, I love those.

exanda kane
As I have said before, I have no solid points from these it's simply from my own interpretation of source material.

Dooku faked against Anakin, he did not get owned.

Now this point has been argued many times. It is possible that early on Dooku threw the fight to Anakin, he threw away Obi-Wan like a ragdoll yet simply allowed Anakin the opportunity to test his strength. However, as Sidious probably hoped, Anakin's little dip into the dark side, born out of desperation and rashness, seemed to get the chop on Dooku. So whether Dooku began the fight 'faking' against Anakin, or began it earnestly, he still ended up getting owned in the end.

So Dooku has the darke side which boosts his abilities and allows him to use offensive force powers so Dooku has the edge there.

But these offensive powers, a grand total of one (being Force Lightning), which he uses in duels are actually quite easily deflected. An AotC Obi-Wan managed to hold it back, are you suggesting a much more powerful Mace could not? And lets not forget, Mace has gained the ability to use dark side energy against his opponent.

So they are about equally matched in lightsabers, still Dooku has shown the abilitie of using the force at the same time he fights, very effectivley too.

And Mace does not fight effectively? Dooku only uses those powers in a duel when he needs to create a diversion to escape or on a much weaker opponent.

Didn't he create Vaapad when he was 13??? Then he probably knew it when Dooku bested him before, and even though Mace might have become better at Vaapad, Dooku has mastered Makashi to the highest degree.

It does not matter when Vapaad was created. Mace would surely have become much stronger in the force since from the time when he would have duelled Dooku. If they duelled before Dooku left the order about the time of TPM, then Mace would have been in his thirties, quite a young age for a powerful Jedi master. In the intervening years between TPM and RotS, Mace would surely have become wiser, stronger and more proficient with a lightsaber, advancing faster than Dooku ever had. Yet this small point does not actually matter in a 3 way fight.

I think Dooku takes it because of superior force use and by a tiny margin saber use.

The dark side isn't stronger. It's only one side of the spectrum. And by no means his force use is superior, maybe more evident and explicit, but Mace has many force powers that allow him to do many more things.

Yet lets not forget, this is the versus forum and the only things that really counts is opinion.

Darth Traya
Originally posted by exanda kane
As I have said before, I have no solid points from these it's simply from my own interpretation of source material.

Dooku faked against Anakin, he did not get owned.

Now this point has been argued many times. It is possible that early on Dooku threw the fight to Anakin, he threw away Obi-Wan like a ragdoll yet simply allowed Anakin the opportunity to test his strength. However, as Sidious probably hoped, Anakin's little dip into the dark side, born out of desperation and rashness, seemed to get the chop on Dooku. So whether Dooku began the fight 'faking' against Anakin, or began it earnestly, he still ended up getting owned in the end.

So Dooku has the darke side which boosts his abilities and allows him to use offensive force powers so Dooku has the edge there.

But these offensive powers, a grand total of one (being Force Lightning), which he uses in duels are actually quite easily deflected. An AotC Obi-Wan managed to hold it back, are you suggesting a much more powerful Mace could not? And lets not forget, Mace has gained the ability to use dark side energy against his opponent.

So they are about equally matched in lightsabers, still Dooku has shown the abilitie of using the force at the same time he fights, very effectivley too.

And Mace does not fight effectively? Dooku only uses those powers in a duel when he needs to create a diversion to escape or on a much weaker opponent.

Didn't he create Vaapad when he was 13??? Then he probably knew it when Dooku bested him before, and even though Mace might have become better at Vaapad, Dooku has mastered Makashi to the highest degree.

It does not matter when Vapaad was created. Mace would surely have become much stronger in the force since from the time when he would have duelled Dooku. If they duelled before Dooku left the order about the time of TPM, then Mace would have been in his thirties, quite a young age for a powerful Jedi master. In the intervening years between TPM and RotS, Mace would surely have become wiser, stronger and more proficient with a lightsaber, advancing faster than Dooku ever had. Yet this small point does not actually matter in a 3 way fight.

I think Dooku takes it because of superior force use and by a tiny margin saber use.

The dark side isn't stronger. It's only one side of the spectrum. And by no means his force use is superior, maybe more evident and explicit, but Mace has many force powers that allow him to do many more things.

Yet lets not forget, this is the versus forum and the only things that really counts is opinion.

Dooku fully intended to fake the match, at no point did Anakin really hold the upper hand, apart from the sabre-lock where he choppes off Dooku's hands.

Mace Windu and Yoda are restricted by their devotion to the Jedi Code. They cannot use inherently aggressive powers, and things like force push won't work on Tyranus. Tyranus can use offensive powers and overly aggressive hatred.

ssj3gohan007
I think Yoda has the best chance of winning

Darth Traya
Originally posted by ssj3gohan007
I think Yoda has the best chance of winning

It really depends. Yoda is the most powerful person in this combat both in terms of force and lightsabre combat.

It depends on whether or not Windu and Tyranus will gang up on Yoda or if anyone gangs up on anyone really, which is why I hate three ways on principle.

Yoda might be the best here, but he was panting after half a minute of fighting with Dooku. Yoda cannot afford to get into any prolonged fights and will have to severly exert himself to kill either one of them quickly.

Then the other can take advantage of Yoda and kill him.

I say the count has the most chance of winning.

ssj3gohan007
maybe but too many factors, gives me a headache

Darth Traya
True, three way fights are awful for debating, unless it's something like "Nihilus versus Jett Zukassa versus AOTC Anakin.", then it's easy smile).

exanda kane
Originally posted by Darth Traya
Dooku fully intended to fake the match, at no point did Anakin really hold the upper hand, apart from the sabre-lock where he choppes off Dooku's hands.

Mace Windu and Yoda are restricted by their devotion to the Jedi Code. They cannot use inherently aggressive powers, and things like force push won't work on Tyranus. Tyranus can use offensive powers and overly aggressive hatred.

He intended to lose the fight at the beginning. Would Dooku really be foolish enough to believe Palpatine, when he asks him to fake the fight, is only testing Anakin's ability? Of course not. I believe Dooku knew why Sidious asked him to throw the fight, yet as an obediant apprentice, he threw the fight at the beginning.

I said that Mace and Yoda would use powerful powers, not agressive and explicit like force lightning, but powerful light side powers that would boost there abilities.

ssj3gohan007
I dunno, yoda is the strongest but with 3 people...anything goes...anyone can win

kamikz
Originally posted by exanda kane
He intended to lose the fight at the beginning. Would Dooku really be foolish enough to believe Palpatine, when he asks him to fake the fight, is only testing Anakin's ability? Of course not. I believe Dooku knew why Sidious asked him to throw the fight, yet as an obediant apprentice, he threw the fight at the beginning.

I said that Mace and Yoda would use powerful powers, not agressive and explicit like force lightning, but powerful light side powers that would boost there abilities.

Threw the fight in the beginning?? I don't get it, what do you mean?

Well apparently Dooku didn't know about the plan, look at his face in the end, he is completly suprised that Palpatine asked Anakin to kill him, he wouldn't have expected that.

exanda kane
Threw the fight in the beginning?? I don't get it, what do you mean?

It means that he was not trying his hardest at the beginning. When Anakin proved to be very strong he of course stepped up again, until the point were he was fighting for his life.

Well apparently Dooku didn't know about the plan, look at his face in the end, he is completly suprised that Palpatine asked Anakin to kill him, he wouldn't have expected that.

Then it begs the question...what did Sidious tell Dooku? As asking him to just have a friendly fight would obviosuly sparked off the thought that Sidious was about to get a replacement for him.

So the expression could be read as fear of the inevitable, the realisation that he has been betrayed, or even a brief conversion back to the light, realising that the dark side has been the death of him, and many others.

kamikz
You have some points but I still don't agree completly.

He was toying in the beginning, mocking Anakin to use his hate and anger, then he was on the defencive all the time, of course he didn't have time to do anything because he provoked Anakin to do so. So I agree that he defeated Dooku in the end, but in that state (if it was the complete same situation) for Mace he would probably be taken down by Anakin too.


The look on Dooku's face is the looks of a completly suprised Dooku, but whatever.

I still think Dooku's combination between force powers and saber fighting is excellent and is beyond Mace.
stick out tongue

Kaithen
Agreed

darthsith19
If no two people gang up on a third person then Yoda. He has the best saber skills and is strongest with the Force.

overlord
Yeah, but he also tires quickly so if he doesn't beat them fast enough, he will die. But I don't think that he would beat the others so fast as they are incredible swordmasters too.

Kaithen
Wow Agreed fit many Threads

TPS
Proclamation ~ There are too many variables to take into consideration when asking such a question.

Example~ Should you limit them to mere use of a lightsabre, Mace would be the victor. Like was stated before, should Yoda be preoccupied with the Count, then Mace could slay him from behind.

Proud Statement ~ However this ends up, the bloodshed would be most exhilerating to watch.

exanda kane
The fanboy has landed.......



geek

Kaithen
YAY! .... wait thats not good eek!

overlord
Originally posted by TPS
Proclamation ~ There are too many variables to take into consideration when asking such a question.

Example~ Should you limit them to mere use of a lightsabre, Mace would be the victor. Like was stated before, should Yoda be preoccupied with the Count, then Mace could slay him from behind.

Proud Statement ~ However this ends up, the bloodshed would be most exhilerating to watch. oh my god..

Shadow x 20
About Dooku throwing the fight I have a thought on that. Dooku is an enemy to the Republic for leading the CIS so if the Republic won the war Dooku would have been killed but if he say was defeated by Anakin and not killed and was taking to the courts General Grievous would lead the droid army still in the war and Dooku would blame Grievous for the entire war. The senate forgets about Dooku, they go after Grievous, Republic becomes the Empire, and Sidious and Dooku rule the Empire.

kingkman
My argument for Yoda not having enough energy to win this wasn't based on his use of Ataru but the extent at which he augments his physical atributes with the force. And though I as-well as everybody else here knows the limit to Yoda's force energy, I have a pretty safe assumption. My example is at the end of the Sidious fight when Yoda flees. I don't believe that it is because he is afraid or believes that Sidious is stronger than him. I think it is because he has run out of energy and is too tired to continue. So I think it is safe to assume Yoda only has the energy to fight for about the same duration his fight was with Sidious, which was about 8 minutes.

aquaman
ye its basically down top mace or tyranus.

Fishy
Originally posted by kingkman
My argument for Yoda not having enough energy to win this wasn't based on his use of Ataru but the extent at which he augments his physical atributes with the force. And though I as-well as everybody else here knows the limit to Yoda's force energy, I have a pretty safe assumption. My example is at the end of the Sidious fight when Yoda flees. I don't believe that it is because he is afraid or believes that Sidious is stronger than him. I think it is because he has run out of energy and is too tired to continue. So I think it is safe to assume Yoda only has the energy to fight for about the same duration his fight was with Sidious, which was about 8 minutes.

Tell me, how could he have continued fighting without a lightsaber against somebody who has the higher ground and a lightsaber, and somebody who also usses offensive force powers? Yoda couldn't win the fight anymore he lost his only chance. So he left being tired has nothing to do with it.

wolverine8888
Originally posted by Fishy
Tell me, how could he have continued fighting without a lightsaber against somebody who has the higher ground and a lightsaber, and somebody who also usses offensive force powers? Yoda couldn't win the fight anymore he lost his only chance. So he left being tired has nothing to do with it.
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wolverine8888
mace windu would win and it would not even be that big of a battle. don't get me wrong it will be a big fight but realy there no way yoda or count can win.

Great Vengeance
We know Yoda is more powerful than Dooku, we know hes more powerful than Mace...

Yoda has the best chance of winning, btw like I said before I think Yoda could take them both at the same time but thats just my opinion.

kamikz
Originally posted by wolverine8888
mace windu would win and it would not even be that big of a battle. don't get me wrong it will be a big fight but realy there no way yoda or count can win.

Um....why?

DarthMaul9123
Originally posted by Darth Traya
Considering that Dooku can use a single hand to sabre block both Anakin and Kenobi (using two hands and younger) then win the block and not show any exertion, I think in this fight it is.
but these jedi are much more powerful than anakin or obiwan

Great Vengeance
Originally posted by kamikz
Um....why?

M4c3 h4s g0t t3h sk1llz.

DarthMaul9123
Originally posted by TPS
Proclamation ~ There are too many variables to take into consideration when asking such a question.

Example~ Should you limit them to mere use of a lightsabre, Mace would be the victor. Like was stated before, should Yoda be preoccupied with the Count, then Mace could slay him from behind.

Proud Statement ~ However this ends up, the bloodshed would be most exhilerating to watch.
you rock, i wish i could talk like my hero...who is in fact at the bottom of a naboo sewer/ hole in two pieces

LordMArkaRAgnos
Thats bs!.I think mace windu is the best duellist(remember wwhat he did to palpatine).If you take dooku and windu alone I think windu would win.He would use the vaapad again to takle force lightning.don't knw abt yoda though( a bit unpredictable)

overlord
Originally posted by Great Vengeance
M4c3 h4s g0t t3h sk1llz.

Phantasmagorial
All things considered, I'm inclined to think the Count would come up on top - his style is suited for tiring opponents out.





Yoda would tire himself out - his form of fighting would do that. With a one on one fight between Dooku and Yoda they would be more even, but with three of them Yoda would get weary pretty quickly.

As for Mace...



It really depends, I suppose, on who tires out first. If Mace goes out first, then Dooku would win, for Yoda would be exhausted. If Dooku goes out first (not likely, considering his style) then Mace would win. On a one-on-one, Yoda is much more likely to win. If Yoda goes out first, then the two would be fairly even, but like I said, it depends.

But do remember - the winner of a fight is not necessarily the better fighter...

What a nice way for me to start out in the forum, debating.

kamikz
I don't think Yoda is tiring out that quickly, from what I saw in AOTC, Dooku seemed to be very tired just after he had fought Anakin and Obi-Wan, but when Yoda came in he quickly regained his stamina. Are you saying that because Yoda was breathing hard when he fought Dooku that he will tire out?

I run to school every day, takes about 5 min. When I get there I breath very hard, but I'm not tired at all. The fact that Yoda does alot more jumping and fighting versus Sidious, and does not seem tired at all there, is enough fact for me to say that he will last as long as the others. We don't know how long an average life for one of Yoda's species is, but we know that Dooku is above an average for humans.

So his style gives him the edge by tiring out his opponents, but I don't think Yoda would stop for a time and try to rest, he would fight as long as he could, or if he got tired he could use the force against him, make some distance.

Lightsnake
Yoda only tires when the fight is done. He can last a very long time. Mace is the weakest of these duelists, even with Vaapad: When he developed it, only the good Count and Yoda could best him...and Dooku fought Mace during the clone wars.

Yoda'd come out on top here most likely

overlord
Kamikz, Dooku's way of fighting is the least energy consuming style there is. Ataru however, is the most energy consuming one.

kamikz
Yeah, ok, but still. We don't know enough about Yoda's species, what is the average age for a "unknown" to reach before he dies. Still, we know that Dooku is an old man, though he is in good shape, he is still and old man. From what I have seen, Yoda is in better shape in a fight than Dooku.

He might be equal or have better stamina (thanks to Makashi) but I doubt Yoda will drain his in this fight.

overlord
Yeah, stamina in the world of SW is a bit tricky because we assume that Yoda uses the force to be able to do all the stuff but it is still tiring as if the force only helps him partially or something.

But it's still stated and safest to assume that Yoda can't keep up fighting like that forever.

I think ataru is just not very effective when it comes to highly skilled duelists.

kamikz
Agreed, though I still don't think he will get too tired in this fight laughing

Dooku escaped their last fight, I think he knew he was outmatched in both saber and force. I think Yoda would take him even though he would be tired. Remember that he fought through "ahellofalot" (LMAO)clonetroopers before reaching Palpatine and still managed to fight him for several minutes without showing many signs of tiring out.

But since we are unsure about their stamina I'm just going to say Yoda by defult because he is a better fighter than Dooku.

overlord
I'm glad you're so sure but I don't think that Yoda could kill them fast enough this time. I can see Yoda slipping up in a three way fight without teaming up.

kamikz
This match is impossible to tell really, it could go anyway. Therfore I'm going with Yoda because he's the best here.

If we have to tell whos going to fight who, I would think that Mace and Yoda would team up on Dooku. Mace and Yoda lost many jedi friends in the geonosis arena and had to fight a war against Dooku, they both had unfinished business with him. Then Yoda would kill Mace.

Just my opinion though.

Nilky
If Mace and Dooku play smart, they'd team up and kill Yoda - who is the most powerful person there. If they do that, then they'd get him out of the way - and then Mace and Dooku would fight.

Then dooku would have no probs with his saber killing mace

Dark Aristokrat
Originally posted by Phantasmagorial
All things considered, I'm inclined to think the Count would come up on top - his style is suited for tiring opponents out.





Yoda would tire himself out - his form of fighting would do that. With a one on one fight between Dooku and Yoda they would be more even, but with three of them Yoda would get weary pretty quickly.

As for Mace...



It really depends, I suppose, on who tires out first. If Mace goes out first, then Dooku would win, for Yoda would be exhausted. If Dooku goes out first (not likely, considering his style) then Mace would win. On a one-on-one, Yoda is much more likely to win. If Yoda goes out first, then the two would be fairly even, but like I said, it depends.

But do remember - the winner of a fight is not necessarily the better fighter...

What a nice way for me to start out in the forum, debating.

Indeed. Nice post. I agree.

PurpleSaber
Dooku cannot beat Sidious because Sidious is the best Sith ever. In RotS, Mace beat Sidious. However the fact that Sidious could have been faking it is arguable. Anyway, I think Mace would beat Dooku 1 on 1. I also think Mace could beat Yoda 1 on 1. Yoda is stronger with the force, but I believe Mace to be the better swordsman. With all three of them the fight could go any way, but I would put my bet on Mace.

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