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What is the forum attitude to Gypses?

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Didn't know they existed until this forum Or I should say KMC...I thought it was just a slang.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Didn't know they existed until this forum Or I should say KMC...I thought it was just a slang.

You didn't know abbout Gypses?

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
What is the forum attitude to Gypses?

Interesting and this thread was created why?

You realise they are a distinct ethnic group

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Interesting and this thread was created why?

You realise they are a distinct ethnic group


It was created to test the ignorance of KMC Members (a user we all know for example)

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
It was created to test the ignorance of KMC Members (a user we all know for example)

Oh sorry - I complained about this thread, apologies, point the mod in the direction of this post. Sorry, I thought it was flamebait aimed at me, you realise I am of Gypsy descent.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Oh sorry - I complained about this thread apologies, point the mod in the direction of this post. Sorry, I thought it was flamebait aimed at me, you realise I am of gypsy descent.

Lol you are?

Originally posted by KidRock
Lol you are?

Yes - I am A few of us survived Hitler.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Yes - I am

hahaha sorry

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Yes - I am A few of us survived Hitler.

Damn...........j/k

I remember your "Should I forgive Germany thread"

Originally posted by KidRock
hahaha sorry

Don't be

Originally posted by KidRock
hahaha sorry

You hate him don't you?

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Don't be

you must have it rough.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
You hate him don't you?

I feel bad for him now

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Damn...........j/k

I remember your "Should I forgive Germany thread"

Yes I ended up forgiving the modern Germans, with the proviso they have learnt from there mistakes. However eith the rise of Nazis all over Europe this seems unlikely.

Originally posted by KidRock
you must have it rough.



I feel bad for him now

Your Patronising him now. And thats wrong

Originally posted by KidRock
you must have it rough.



Not at all

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Your Patronising him now. And thats wrong

I dont feel bad that all his people got butchered.. I feel bad that he IS a gypsy lol. But I should stop haha im leaving this thread it is only trouble.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Yes I ended up forgiving the modern Germans, with the proviso they have learnt from there mistakes. However eith the rise of Nazis all over Europe this seems unlikely.

I still don't see why you have the right to forgive anyone! If anything the Germans should forgive us! After all it was the Treaty of Versailles that put them in the position they where in.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Your Patronising him now. And thats wrong

Pleas Gav tell me what you know of Gypsies - although we prefer the term traveller now.

Originally posted by KidRock
I dont feel bad that all his people got butchered.. I feel bad that he IS a gypsy lol. But I should stop haha im leaving this thread it is only trouble.

Oh now that was Racist and if you gus remember back to the KMC Police state thread..............police

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Oh now that was Racist and if you gus remember back to the KMC Police state thread..............police

Not racist at all..its sympathy, I feel bad for the guy now.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
I still don't see why you have the right to forgive anyone! If anything the Germans should forgive us! After all it was the Treaty of Versailles that put them in the position they where in.

I think the Blitz alone is reason for many people of an age to feel negativity.

Originally posted by KidRock
Not racist at all..its sympathy, I feel bad for the guy now.

and I have sympathy for you so we are all square.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
and I have sympathy for you so we are all square.

Lol you can say annnyything you want. We dont judge you here.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Pleas Gav tell me what you know of Gypsies - although we prefer the term traveller now.

I know that GYPSES are "travellers" who I'm sorry but it's true waltz into an area set up camp stay for a while (Im sure they're all nice clean normal people) then move on, often leaving huge piles of trash behind.(whether that is a course carried out only by a minority of Gypses I don't know but I know thats how alot of them behave and don't tell me it's not because I've seen it!)

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
You didn't know abbout Gypses? Nope, never heard of them here....Just thought of them in history as slang for people that moved around and such.

Originally posted by KidRock
Lol you can say annnyything you want. We dont judge you here.

Well thats not strictly true Kid Rock many here have judged you. Not me though

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Well thats not strictly true Kid Rock many here have judged you. Not me though

Im normal though..I dont have the same "backround" as you.

Its like a normal person getting beat up is ok but when a mentally challenged one is its just not cool and fun. Know what I mean?

Edit: meh im done with this thread..

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I think the Blitz alone is reason for many people of an age to feel negativity.

Oh and the huge reperations, the humiliation, the hunger of millions of Germans, the extreme poverty, does that not warrent for an age who want revenge?

Originally posted by KidRock
Im normal though..I dont have the same "backround" as you.

Its like a normal person getting beat up is ok but when a mentally challenged one is its just not cool and fun. Know what I mean?

Edit: meh im done with this thread..

I'm in the same boat as KR here but I better not say it too loudly!

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
I know that GYPSES are "travellers" who I'm sorry but it's true waltz into an area set up camp stay for a while (Im sure they're all nice clean normal people) then move on, often leaving huge piles of trash behind.(whether that is a course carried out only by a minority of Gypses I don't know but I know thats how alot of them behave and don't tell me it's not because I've seen it!)

Thats you're confusion about types of traveller - but thats OK.
Some do indeed do this and it dates back to a cultual idea that the "outside" is the workshop. It's getting rarer but it happens still. The more usual spelling is Gypsies as plural of Gypsy by the way and its now classed as both archaic and rascist, just to let you know.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Thats you're confusion about types of traveller - but thats OK.
Some do indeed do this and it dates back to a cultural idea that the "outside" is the workshop. It's getting rarer but it happens still.

Well some people like the "workshop" to be kept clean.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Well some people like the "workshop" to be kept clean.

And you're point is what exactly?

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
And you're point is what exactly?

Round up and Shoot all Gypses who leave huge piles of trash on the ground and then move off to pastures new..........

Originally posted by KidRock
Its like a normal person getting beat up is ok but when a mentally challenged one is its just not cool and fun. Know what I mean?


it seems you finally understand why i gave up smacking you around

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Round up and Shoot all Gypses who leave huge piles of trash on the ground and then move off to pastures new..........

I see, so you're in favour of shooting a distinct ethnic group for littering and your last post is not a joke - yes or no?

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I see, so you're in favour of shooting a distinct ethnic group for littering and your last post is not a joke - yes or no?


Have I drifted too right-wing? Yes it's a joke but I don't see why we should not clean the streets of rubbish. ( Thats not Inciting Racial Hatred, Freedom of Speech!!)

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Have I drifted too right-wing? Yes it's a joke but I don't see why we should not clean the streets of rubbish. ( Thats not Inciting Racial Hatred, Freedom of Speech!!)

I agree people should not litter, but you also need to realise that Gypsies can only go on land allotted for them these days, so most of the time this is no longer a problem. Also they hardly ever camp in towns, so streets being littered is not a problem.

You do realise several different cultural groups exist in the traveller community.

Originally posted by KidRock
I dont feel bad that all his people got butchered.. I feel bad that he IS a gypsy lol. But I should stop haha im leaving this thread it is only trouble.

if I were him I would feel offended with this comment.... who's breaking the rules, again?

Originally posted by Paola
if I were him I would feel offended with this comment.... who's breaking the rules, again?

Thank you Paola

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I agree people should not litter, but you also need to realise that Gypsies can only go on land allotted for them these days, so most of the time this is no longer a problem. Also they hardly ever camp in towns, so streets being littered is not a problem.

You do realise several different cultural groups exist in the traveller community.

SW I'm just winding you up if we where to shoot litterers I'd be dead!

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
SW I'm just winding you up if we where to shoot litterers I'd be dead!

Gav you're not winding me up at all - however I am fascinated by what you know of Travellers, I actually hold many in contempt as they do not realis that they must adapt for the modern world. However certain social morals are probably not what you think and I find that amusing.

SW There are many cultures in Britain, lets use the followers of Islam as an example.

Some Muslims preach hate, does this mean all muslims should be punished?........NO

Some Protestants are very Sectarian does this mean we should punish ALL Protestants?..........NO

Some Travellers or Gyps es dump their rubbish in the fields, does this mean we should punish all Travellers?........NO

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
SW There are many cultures in Britain, lets use the followers of Islam as an example.

Some Muslims preach hate, does this mean all muslims should be punished?........NO

Some Protestants are very Sectarian does this mean we should punish ALL Protestants?..........NO

Some Travellers or Gyps es dump their rubbish in the fields, does this mean we should punish all Travellers?........NO

So you created this thread to state the obvious

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
So you created this thread to state the obvious

To explore ignorance Whirly you see in the other thread you clearly revealed yourself to hold extremist views on Humans Rights.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
To explore ignorance Whirly you see in the other thread you clearly revealed yourself to hold extremist views on Humans Rights.

Did I

I think what you see on here is perhaps not reality Gav (chuckle)

I think people believ what they wish to believe online.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Did I

I think what you see on here is perhaps not reality Gav (chuckle)

I think people believ what they wish to believe online.

You think that way perhaps but you also think that there are right views and wrong views?,

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
You think that way perhaps but you also think that there are right views and wrong views?,

perhaps but don't tell anyone

Oh I hate chavs! always trying to nick stuff or sell you dodgy drives...

i dont like them- not for who they are but the hassel they cause.
i know its very sterotypical but its from things said about them

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Oh I hate chavs! always trying to nick stuff or sell you dodgy drives...

So do you use the term Chav to mean a racial group or kids in hoodies?

Please explain.

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
i dont like them- not for who they are but the hassel they cause.
i know its very sterotypical but its from things said about them

Do you mean Gypsies (Chavs) or kids in hoodies?

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Do you mean Gypsies (Chavs) or kids in hoodies?
gypsies

or are you talking about chavs..?

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
gypsies

or are you talking about chavs..?

are you in the UK Joey?

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
So do you use the term Chav to mean a racial group or kids in hoodies?

no I mainly use it as I know how touchy you get about it..

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
are you in the UK Joey? yuss

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
no I mainly use it as I know how touchy you get about it..

Then that would be racist tollin

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights/chapters/rights-of-gypsies-and-travellers/racim-and-discrimination/racism-and-discrimination.shtml


I see

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
are you in the UK Joey? how come you ask?

I perfer to think of it as comical nudging, Still I've got a fair way before I catch you up!

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
yuss

Read this Joey

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights/chapters/rights-of-gypsies-and-travellers/racim-and-discrimination/racism-and-discrimination.shtml

From the Race Relations Act!

Racist incidents

Racist incidents ranging from criminal harassment and abuse to physical violence are offences under the criminal law. Inciting racial hatred is also a criminal offence. Publishing and disseminating materials such as leaflets and newspapers that are likely to incite racial hatred is also a criminal offence. If anyone has a complaint with respect to any of these criminal matters they should be reported to the police.

It applies online!

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
I perfer to think of it as comical nudging, Still I've got a fair way before I catch you up!

Not really

Racist incidents

Racist incidents ranging from criminal harassment and abuse to physical violence are offences under the criminal law. Inciting racial hatred is also a criminal offence. Publishing and disseminating materials such as leaflets and newspapers that are likely to incite racial hatred is also a criminal offence. If anyone has a complaint with respect to any of these criminal matters they should be reported to the police.



I asked a question about a nation and its past actions, not a person or group of people and it had context to murder Read the posts back. I was very careful.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Read this Joey

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights/chapters/rights-of-gypsies-and-travellers/racim-and-discrimination/racism-and-discrimination.shtml

From the Race Relations Act!

Racist incidents

Racist incidents ranging from criminal harassment and abuse to physical violence are offences under the criminal law. Inciting racial hatred is also a criminal offence. Publishing and disseminating materials such as leaflets and newspapers that are likely to incite racial hatred is also a criminal offence. If anyone has a complaint with respect to any of these criminal matters they should be reported to the police.

It applies online! alll that, so basically does that mean im a..racist?

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
alll that, so basically does that mean im a..racist?

If you hate a group of people with a distinct ethnic identity based on whta you have heard about them. What do you think?

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
So do you use the term Chav to mean a racial group or kids in hoodies?

Please explain.

You lied to me over Chavs whirly The mean Child in some Latin dielects!

gypsies aren't a race thanks................its comical if you should have a problem with ethnicity well you might/should be a tool.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
You lied to me over Chavs whirly The mean Child in some Latin dielects!

Nope they mean Child in Roma Watch

The very word 'chav' appears to derive from the 'gypsy' word 'chavo' meaning 'little person'. It has long been used in the South East, and has now become a chic reference for 'culturally aware' apolitical liberals. Often it is the same people who indulge in gypsy-bashing who retail the schtick.

Teachers in schools are telling children not to use it.

Collins the dictionary people.

http://www.collins.co.uk/wordexchange/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1270

Your ignorant about this.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Pleas Gav tell me what you know of Gypsies - although we prefer the term traveller now.



You are so ignorant.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
If you hate a group of people with a distinct ethnic identity based on whta you have heard about them. What do you think? but...
so its the same for "chavs" even if you actually witness what they do?is that still racist?

Originally posted by soleran30
gypsies aren't a race thanks................its comical if you should have a problem with ethnicity well you might/should be a tool.

According to UK Law they are.

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights/chapters/rights-of-gypsies-and-travellers/racim-and-discrimination/racism-and-discrimination.shtml

Joey, I highly doubt you're racist. Whirly has a tendency to take someone's comments and twist them to suit his response. He uses your statements and opinions as ammunition against you.

He's also a hypocrite.

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
but...
so its the same for "chavs" even if you actually witness what they do?is that still racist?

The term Chav is applied to a lot of people who are not Gypsies this is slightly different Joey!

Originally posted by Syren
Joey, I highly doubt you're racist. Whirly has a tendency to take someone's comments and twist them to suit his response. He uses your statements and opinions as ammunition against you.

He's also a hypocrite.

Please show me why?

Originally posted by Syren
Joey, I highly doubt you're racist. Whirly has a tendency to take someone's comments and twist them to suit his response. He uses your statements and opinions as ammunition against you.

He's also a hypocrite. thankies
in a way i can see what me means, but i didnt see gypses as a race

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
thankies
in a way i can see what me means, but i didnt see gypses as a race

Strangely the Government disagree

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights/chapters/rights-of-gypsies-and-travellers/racim-and-discrimination/racism-and-discrimination.shtml

lol ok by law they are by biology they aren't Anyway its a social cutom that formed groups you know that mister whirly Anyway that said best of luck with gypsies and laws.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Strangely the Government disagree

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights/chapters/rights-of-gypsies-and-travellers/racim-and-discrimination/racism-and-discrimination.shtml i supose so...

Originally posted by soleran30
lol ok by law they are by biology they aren't Anyway its a social cutom that formed groups you know that mister whirly Anyway that said best of luck with gypsies and laws.

Actually the Rom have a distinctive set of identifying gene markers, we came from india 1000 years ago.

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
thankies
in a way i can see what me means, but i didnt see gypses as a race

That's because we're all part of the human race. Different colours, different creeds, different values. But all human.

It's commendable that you don't see Gypsies as different from the rest of the world, although they and every other person are individually separated.

Interesting the level of racism on KMC, I wonder if Raz knows!

Whirly;

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=383709&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1

Quite obviously hypocritical in comparison to your comments in the KMC Rules thread.

I am quite aware that the term "chav" was once used for a completely different purpose and in using it connected with today's meaning, I don't intend to send out any disrespect.

What I do think could be viewed as disrespectful is people who say things without being aware of what they mean or in the worse cases, not knowing at all what it means. I can see both sides.

Whirly, you may prefer the word traveller. I'm sure a lot of black people prefer to be called black and not "coloured", but you can't change many, many years worth of history.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I am quite aware that the term "chav" was once used for a completely different purpose and in using it connected with today's meaning, I don't intend to send out any disrespect.

What I do think could be viewed as disrespectful is people who say things without being aware of what they mean or in the worse cases, not knowing at all what it means. I can see both sides.

Whirly, you may prefer the word traveller. I'm sure a lot of black people prefer to be called black and not "coloured", but you can't change many, many years worth of history.

-AC

Unfortunately AC Chav has been hijacked by the media, It will soon be seen in the way coloured is as race relations cases are being brought. Anyway I have to do some work

This thread asks if people hate a distinctive ethnic group.

I would like you to identify all all "races" now so I can be properly pc Anyway I am not trying to overlook gypisies however I forgot the deal with them now since it has been turned sideways so many times............................gypsies huh.........

Whirrly you bumped this thread purely to get at me and I tell you now I have no problem with gypses and I am Not racist

It's gypsy time again... Are gypsies really real anyway?.....

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Whirrly you bumped this thread purely to get at me and I tell you now I have no problem with gypses and I am Not racist

I didn't bump it.

Hit and Miss did to get at me!!! he admits it a few pages back.

Originally posted by Syren
Whirly;

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=383709&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1

Quite obviously hypocritical in comparison to your comments in the KMC Rules thread.

You missed the point of my comments. Try reading it and my comments in that other thread together.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I didn't bump it.

Hit and Miss did to get at me!!! he admits it a few pages back.

always trying to blame others for your own failings...

Originally posted by debbiejo
It's gypsy time again... Are gypsies really real anyway?.....

Im beginning to think that Whirrly made them up so he can tell us all how we are being racist towards him.

I'm requesting this be closed

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Im beginning to think that Whirrly made them up so he can tell us all how we are being racist towards him.
is whirrly a gypse?

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
is whirrly a gypse?

Yes,

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
is whirrly a gypse?

He likes to think so.

only in name... But I wouldn't be supprised if he offered to lay you a new drive... Or possibly sell you a dog...

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
only in name... But I wouldn't be supprised if he offered to lay you a new drive... Or possibly sell you a dog...

The Racism towards a distinct racial group is amazing, it's hidden as personal abuse but the drive comment is symptomatic of the problem!

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
always trying to blame others for your own failings...

So you see me being a Gypsy as a failing, or not bumping this thread!

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
The Racism towards a distinct racial group is amazing, it's hidden as personal abuse but the drive comment is symptomatic of the problem!

Then go away!

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Then go away!

I don't think so.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
So you see me being a Gypsy as a failing

Yes.. That exactly what I said... stop twisting.. Its old and boring

On a side note...
Do you live in a caravan? how does your life compare to that of a traveller?? Do you have any connection to your heritage these days?

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Yes.. That exactly what I said... stop twisting.. Its old and boring

On a side note...
Do you live in a caravan? how does your life compare to that of a traveller?? Do you have any connection to your heritage these days?

I see so you wish to attack my cultural heritage.

Cultural heritage? Whirly, I have blood ties to gypsies/travellers/whatever-you-want-to-call-them of old but I do not parade around defending my 'cultural heritage' from anyone who so dares to criticise. It's not even my culture now, it's something I stemmed from. Same with you.

Shut up sweetie.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I see so you wish to attack my cultural heritage.

Other then your blood line, do you have any ties to the culture your defending??? Have you even been to your homeland?

Closed on request of the thread starter.