NSA Spies on Website Visitors...for Your Safety

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PVS
http://www.wired.com/news/wireservice/0,69943-0.html?tw=wn_tophead_4

Associated Press

NEW YORK -- The National Security Agency's internet site has been placing files on visitors' computers that can track their web-surfing activity despite strict federal rules banning most of them.

These files, known as "cookies," disappeared after a privacy activist complained and The Associated Press made inquiries this week, and agency officials acknowledged Wednesday they had made a mistake. Nonetheless, the issue raises questions about privacy at a spy agency already on the defensive amid reports of a secretive eavesdropping program in the United States.

"Considering the surveillance power the NSA has, cookies are not exactly a major concern," said Ari Schwartz, associate director at the Center for Democracy and Technology, a privacy advocacy group in Washington, D.C. "But it does show a general lack of understanding about privacy rules when they are not even following the government's very basic rules for web privacy."

Until Tuesday, the NSA site created two cookie files that do not expire until 2035 -- likely beyond the life of any computer in use today.

Don Weber, an NSA spokesman, said in a statement Wednesday that the cookie use resulted from a recent software upgrade. Normally, the site uses temporary, permissible cookies that are automatically deleted when users close their web browsers, he said, but the software in use shipped with persistent cookies already on.

"After being tipped to the issue, we immediately disabled the cookies," he said.

Cookies are widely used at commercial websites and can make internet browsing more convenient by letting sites remember user preferences. For instance, visitors would not have to repeatedly enter passwords at sites that require them.

But privacy advocates complain that cookies can also track web surfing, even if no personal information is actually collected.

In a 2003 memo, the White House's Office of Management and Budget prohibits federal agencies from using persistent cookies -- those that aren't automatically deleted right away -- unless there is a "compelling need."

A senior official must sign off on any such use, and an agency that uses them must disclose and detail their use in its privacy policy.

Peter Swire, a Clinton administration official who had drafted an earlier version of the cookie guidelines, said clear notice is a must, and "vague assertions of national security, such as exist in the NSA policy, are not sufficient."

Daniel Brandt, a privacy activist who discovered the NSA cookies, said mistakes happen, "but in any case, it's illegal. The (guideline) doesn't say anything about doing it accidentally."

The Bush administration has come under fire recently over reports it authorized NSA to secretly spy on e-mail and phone calls without court orders.

Since The New York Times disclosed the domestic spying program earlier this month, President Bush has stressed that his executive order allowing the eavesdropping was limited to people with known links to al-Qaida.

But on its website Friday, the Times reported that the NSA, with help from American telecommunications companies, obtained broader access to streams of domestic and international communications.

The NSA's cookie use is unrelated, and Weber said it was strictly to improve the surfing experience "and not to collect personal user data."

Richard M. Smith, a security consultant in Cambridge, Massachusetts, questions whether persistent cookies would even be of much use to the NSA. They are great for news and other sites with repeat visitors, he said, but the NSA's site does not appear to have enough fresh content to warrant more than occasional visits.

The government first issued strict rules on cookies in 2000 after disclosures that the White House drug policy office had used the technology to track computer users viewing its online anti-drug advertising. Even a year later, a congressional study found 300 cookies still on the websites of 23 agencies.

In 2002, the CIA removed cookies it had inadvertently placed at one of its sites after Brandt called it to the agency's attention.

Bardock42
Whohoo the NSA Rocks.

Sir Whirlysplat
More reasons why I use a lot of Proxy Servers. KMC though is Spyware central.

overlord
KMC sends all our info and comments to the CIA so we can be monitored for extremist idea's. no expression

Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by overlord
KMC sends all our info and comments to the CIA so we can be monitored for extremist idea's. no expression

no expression I know, Deano told me

Deano
welcome to the new age

Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by Deano
welcome to the new age

wink

PVS
oh great, here comes another deano derailment.

Deano
why would it be a derailment? because your beliefs differ than mine?

PVS
ok, so you're just going to leave it at that and not spam the thread with said off-topic beliefs? ok then i guess you're turning over a new leaf, thank you

Deano
what i would be willing to post is true and you know it

PVS
whatever you say deano roll eyes (sarcastic)

Deano
if i was to comment solely on this issue, i woudnt be saying anything conspiracy wise would i?it shud be quite clear to everyone with a brain whats going on

all you need to do now is expand your thinking futher and research more, thats where the ''conspiracy'' comes in to play.

thats all i say

Victor Von Doom
I for one am intrigued, Dean. I shan't use the 'o', it's slightly common and doesn't befit one such as yourself.

Of what do you speak? Post in the conspiracy thread if it's off-topic.

KidRock
Ohhh noes now the NSA will spy on all my KMC browsing ways.

Only people who should give a shit are the dumbass kids who type "how do i make a bomb" into google.

Sir Whirlysplat
But its easy to make a bomb - shifty who needs google if you have some nitric acid, sulfuric acid, a fridge and cellulose (a woolen jumper would do).

KidRock
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
But its easy to make a bomb - shifty who needs google if you have some nitric acid, sulfuric acid, a fridge and cellulose (a woolen jumper would do).

WATCH OUT TEH NSA IS GONNA COMES AFTER YOUSS!!!

Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by KidRock
WATCH OUT TEH NSA IS GONNA COMES AFTER YOUSS!!!

laughing out loud I doubt it

§noopbert
Originally posted by Deano
why would it be a derailment? because your beliefs differ than mine? PVS, he has a point... for once.

PVS

§noopbert
Originally posted by PVS
yes, so it seems. then you ask, "new age?"
and then comes the david icke spam and talks
of lizard men who want to enslave and microchip us,
then comes the 9-11 controlled demolition crap.
and we're all mindless sheep, etc

once someone asks "wha?" the floodgate busts open and
we all drown in bullshit, then the thread gets
locked after about 10 pages of deano spam.

ive seen it all before, and it all starts with 2 words. "new age" or the traditional "new world order". New World Order isn't exactly an impossibility. Just, not in his convulted timeframe roll eyes (sarcastic)

Deano
nah i dont think lizard men will enslave us at all

what i post is relevent whether u can see it or not

PVS
Originally posted by Deano
nah i dont think lizard men will enslave us at all

what i post is relevent whether u can see it or not

ok, then since you only wanted to post that, and you didnt intend for it to be an opening statement to another thread derailment, then i'll stand corrected and you'll just be happy with what you said and leave it at that, without posting conspiracy theories and killing the topic. agreed?

Deano
agreed

PVS
smile

BackFire
Originally posted by KidRock
Ohhh noes now the NSA will spy on all my KMC browsing ways.

Only people who should give a shit are the dumbass kids who type "how do i make a bomb" into google.

You just typed that, now you're high alert!

debbiejo
laughing out loud A real agreement?????????????

PVS
Originally posted by BackFire
You just typed that, now you're high alert!

well, think about that.
within a week goolebot will crawl KMC, and that exact phrase will be searchable and traceable right back to him big grin

KidRock
Originally posted by BackFire
You just typed that, now you're high alert!

I was wondering what that white van parked across the street was doing.. no expression the government is out to get me!

overlord
Man.. I always send messages including words like: "Kill teh George", "Make teh bomb" and "Osama is teh l337"

I wonder what will happen when I try to take a plane to go sightseeing in America.

Darth Jello
i don't agree with internet spying, but if i'm ever in DC, i'll be glad to provide the NSA with a stool sample on their front steps. In the name of national security of course.

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