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THe AGE OLD QUESTION. Right up there with what came first, the chicken or the egg? Open for debate. I was thinking about this when I was cruising around those video sites with all the funny and sexy videos on it, pics and what not. They had the Paris Hilton Burger video and the Napster Girl video (this one is ok napstergirl.tv b/c it has cream and I hate Paris) on it. Now when I see these do I want a burger, do I go a sign up for Napster, do I only drink Coors lite now? How come for female stuff they don't have a bunch of Muscle bound dudes with no shirts parading around? Please to comment.....what ad, commercial do you like? What ad commercial do you hate, and has any of it made you purchase the product. It doesn't count if you were already using it.

I love sex.

Come to think of it, not many of the products I use are marketed through sex.

I despise Paris Hilton, DESPISE! I'm using 'despise' not lightly here. HATE that ratty looking b*tch!

Otherwise, I'm not really sure what you're asking.

Yes, sex sells.

Sex sells and I have been known to buy don't we all "buy", when we buy a girl a gift etc?

It's got to the point where it doesn't even have to come to a lady dressing overly provocative to sell records.

I'm sure there are guys who bought Jessica Simpson records because she has large breasts and I KNOW there are females who buy Justin Timberlake records because they find him attractive.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri


I'm sure there are guys who bought Jessica Simpson records because she has large breasts and I KNOW there are females who buy Justin Timberlake records because they find him attractive.

-AC


I know a guy who buys both, but not for the reasons you mentioned. At least as far as Jessica Simpson is concerned

I buy neither because they have little to do with their own music.

Originally posted by BackFire
Yes, sex sells.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I know a guy who buys both, but not for the reasons you mentioned. At least as far as Jessica Simpson is concerned

I buy neither because they have little to do with their own music.

I always found that the most disgusting thing. If you are out there doing it all yourself and it's still shit, then the saving grace (for lack of a better term) may be that you ARE doing it yourself. If you are so shit that you can't even write shit music for yourself and have to have others supply it, that's the bottom of the bucket.

Coincidentally, top of the charts also. Most of the time.

-AC

AC Do you know if the Arctic Monkeys write their own stuff?

considering prostitution is the "worlds oldest profession"....what do you think?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I always found that the most disgusting thing. If you are out there doing it all yourself and it's still shit, then the saving grace (for lack of a better term) may be that you ARE doing it yourself. If you are so shit that you can't even write shit music for yourself and have to have others supply it, that's the bottom of the bucket.

Coincidentally, top of the charts also. Most of the time.

-AC

Absolutely. I don't own a single album where the artist wasn't involved in the writting process.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
AC Do you know if the Arctic Monkeys write their own stuff?

I would assume so. I wouldn't say this is necessarily a good thing if they do, though.

They are quite possibly one of THE worst bands to emerge from anywhere in recent memory, in my opinion.

-AC

Originally posted by PVS
considering prostitution is the "worlds oldest profession"....what do you think?

kind of my point earlier, it's a shame we don't see eye to eye PVS as we often post similair ideas in threads, must be an over 30 thing.

I guess everybody loves sex.......

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's got to the point where it doesn't even have to come to a lady dressing overly provocative to sell records.

I'm sure there are guys who bought Jessica Simpson records because she has large breasts and I KNOW there are females who buy Justin Timberlake records because they find him attractive.

-AC

these people must be sterilized for the good of humanity

Damn humanity is messed up, when even something like sex comes to be tainted by gross commercialisation. Whatever that means.

I for one though am actually less likely to by something because it has some nubile young thing frolicking about in skimpy clothing, just because such commercials are achingly stupid, unless of course they are selling skimpy clothing, in which case they are being accurate, even though I don't buy such clothing (normally anyway). Adverts that are nothing but eye-candy and provide 0% information about the product while trying to subliminally imply that soft drink X has the potential to make this the best summer ever, due to lots of near naked young lasses suddenly appearing the moment it's opened, irritate me immensely, and simply make me sniff in total disdain.

It often appears the purpose of advertisers are to appeal to the lowest common denominator, to sell their product to as many people as possible, but whats wrong with actually trying to sell THE PRODUCT, not a heap of stupid fairy floss smoke and mirrors crap that hides they fact they couldn't sell their products on it's virtues alone. Why not interject some intelligence, or wit or SOMETHING into them?

As to Paris Hilton, her Burger commercial made me sick, primarily as Paris Hilton is one of the foulest cretins to ever walk the earth. She is easily the biggest, ugliest, most diseased pimple to emerge on the large quivering buttocks of humanity for a long time, and it's just goes to show that there is no god, as if there was he would never have allowed her to be even slightly famous while a few billion infinitely more deserving people are missing out. If I had any power what so ever, I would, for fun, and the greater good, wipe Paris Hilton from all time and space, safe in the knowledge she wouldn't be missed, and the world in turn wouldn't be missing anything.

what kind of question is that...of course it does. we all know that. Its an unfortunate truth of life

yup..of course sex sells.....which is complete bullsh!t to me-.- but hey, so many people respond to it all. There are so many talented artists out there who are being overlooked because they may not have the right 'look'...yet, there are so many artists these days who do not have one talented bone in their body, yet they sell so many damn records purely cuz they're good lookingO.O...there is so much bullsh!t happening in the world today-.-

Of course it does. I don't really see the problem with it either. And not only sex sells, for example cute babies sell too (not only they themself but also the products they represent ). Those are jsut basic human reactions. No big deal.

Well, it's not the world's oldest profession, that's another one of those myths.

But yes, of course it does; it's an innate need, and advertising will take advantage of anything that gets you to buy.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well, it's not the world's oldest profession, that's another one of those myths.

But yes, of course it does; it's an innate need, and advertising will take advantage of anything that gets you to buy.

And there's not really anythign wrong with that, or is there?

That's a question that depends on circumstance.

At base, no, unless you dislike capitalism.

Taken to extremes, though, you might belief it is exploitative and/or inappropriate for some audiences.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
That's a question that depends on circumstance.

At base, no, unless you dislike capitalism.

Taken to extremes, though, you might belief it is exploitative and/or inappropriate for some audiences.

I understand the first point (if you don't like capitalism) but could you clarify what circumstances you find it inappropriate?

Well, kids, basically.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well, kids, basically.

You mean like pornographic material and such?

Well, that's a bit more obviously wrong.

But the whole area of advertising to children is a controversial one, because modern advertising is based on the capitalist idea of freedom of choice, and if you allow yourself to be seduced and choose badly, well, that's your own fault. So long as advertisers don't actually lie.

Which is fair enough, but many would argue it is unfair to apply the same criteria to children who have less mental capacity to properly discern- after all, they are denied the option to vote and so forth for obvious reasons, so why are they expected to make financial choices like adults?

Sex (or sexually suggestive material) is a strong pull and so therefore doubles this argument for children (young teenagers especially) about how exploitative it might be. The singers mentioned above are good examples.

Well I agree partly, but on the one hand kids and teenagers shouldn't have that much money, and there's not much the government can do aboot it, the responsebility should be with the parents though.

They shouldn't, but they often do.

Plus, of course, it is exploiting a loophole where many parents buy whatever their kids want, and hence the advertisers pile in their advertising on the kids and sidestep the idea of intelligent discernment in buying.

Which many people would consider immoral.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
They shouldn't, but they often do.

Plus, of course, it is exploiting a loophole where many parents buy whatever their kids want, and hence the advertisers pile in their advertising on the kids and sidestep the idea of intelligent discernment in buying.

Which many people would consider immoral.

Now, but the parents actually have the "mental capacity" to do decide.

It might be considered a loophole, but one can't really blame them for using that....

I think plenty of people can; I think plenty of people think it is exploitative of the bonds that grow between parents and children and so therefore should be protected against the drive of capitalism.

And some Western Governments are agreeing, hence stringent regulations often being introduced against advertising at children.

Hmm I see. But isn't advertisment for children based on different aspects and not actually sexuality?

Well, not directly, but the comments made about the likes of Justin Timberlake, and their early teen auidence, reflect concerns about that sort of area.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well, not directly, but the comments made about the likes of Justin Timberlake, and their early teen auidence, reflect concerns about that sort of area.

But there must be an end at some point..meaning do 12 year olds still need to be protected and when to stop.

You betcha sex sells!!!!

If it didn't then it wouldn't be used in advertising.

Exactly

I saw "Sex" in the title and I had to check it out Hot video, sex DEFINITELY sells. Those Axe and Tag body spray commercials definitely make young teens buy their products. But I think it matters what you're trying to sell. Body spray is a little different from trying to sell downloadable music. Because with the Axe and Tag commercials, they're saying that by wearing their brand, you could get laid. There's no way you're going to get laid because you download music. Honestly, I don't care, as long as they keep putting out these hot ads, I'll keep watching, and enjoying the hell out of it.

Oh, and the "Herbal Essence" commercials for sure....Pleasure alone in the shower, just you and your shampoo....LOL

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t374564.html

Case in point...^

The Napster girl's hotter than that, and she doesn't say a word. There's something that should be said about that, I just don't know what

Here is the best example I could find. www.napstergirl.tv

This is like asking if the pope is Catholic IMHO. If it didnt sell you wouldnt see it in so many ads, simple as that really.

it sells, but not for all products. Napster girl is a perfect example. Not all that many people are going to go use napster because they saw the ad, but they certainly know about Napster now.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
This is like asking if the pope is Catholic IMHO. If it didnt sell you wouldnt see it in so many ads, simple as that really.

Pithily apposite.

Bahaha, I love the fact that they're selling her panties on ebay. That's hilarious.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
This is like asking if the pope is Catholic IMHO. If it didnt sell you wouldnt see it in so many ads, simple as that really.

You'd be suprised JP. There are some people on this forum that need that explained to them.

Though I find it really really unfathomable how one could sell some products such as candy bars, gum, laundry detergents, cleaning supplies or toothpaste....OK, well tooth paste might work...LOL

I wanted to try and sell my panties but I don't have any spares.

sex might not sell, but it certanly catches peoples eyes

Originally posted by debbiejo
Though I find it really really unfathomable how one could sell some products such as candy bars, gum, laundry detergents, cleaning supplies or toothpaste....OK, well tooth paste might work...LOL

Yep, got to love those sexy teeth, cavorting around in sensual mouths, the swish of the tooth brush... and minty fresh breath.

And it's all about presentation. Once upon a time tooth paste was sold by balding dentists whose faces couldn't be shown, and candy by fat kids and laudry products by little old ladies. These days many such products are shown in the hands of attractive young things, enjoying the washing, enjoying brushing there teeth (or brushing there teeth, and then going out and kissing someone.)

There was an TV commercial in Australia recently that was advertising a type of breath mints - some reporter walks down the street, gives "random" people mints (all quite young and attractive) and they go all gushy talking about how great the mints are. This is fine, except for one girl who perks up and says "oh wow, it's like an orgasm in my mouth." The company got into a fair bit of trouble over that (not appropriate for the time slot) and the ads were pulled.

Do you ever notice how you alway write in 3 paragraphs.........LOL....you do....

By the way, an orgasm on your mouth...LOL...Dont have the commercial here. But then we are the US, we don't have those kinds of issues here. We are the innocents amongst the other heathen countries...hahahaha

Originally posted by debbiejo
Do you ever notice how you alway write in 3 paragraphs.........LOL....you do....

By the way, an orgasm on your mouth...LOL...Dont have the commercial here. But then we are the US, we don't have those kinds of issues here. We are the innocents amongst the other heathen countries...hahahaha

I know, 3 is a good number, and I usually have enough to put down in three.

Allows me to keep in practice over the holidays so I don't get out of the habit of typing lots.

And yeah. Personally the first time I saw the ad I thought - "Well, that doesn't sound like it would taste very nice. I guess it depends on which kind of orgasm we are talking about." Then I thought wait, maybe it's not so much the taste and texture, but rather simply a poor choice of words, what she is actually saying is it's really quite enjoyable mint. It probably wouldn't have been quite as bad if she didn't look not a day over 16.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I know, 3 is a good number, and I usually have enough to put down in three.

Allows me to keep in practice over the holidays so I don't get out of the habit of typing lots.

And yeah. Personally the first time I saw the ad I thought - "Well, that doesn't sound like it would taste very nice. I guess it depends on which kind of orgasm we are talking about." Then I thought wait, maybe it's not so much the taste and texture, but rather simply a poor choice of words, what she is actually saying is it's really quite enjoyable mint. It probably wouldn't have been quite as bad if she didn't look not a day over 16. Look!!! you did it again...3....

Tell you the truth, I never thought that buying gum would fill my mouth with ecstasy....Even herbal Essence...A fix in the shower...LOL

Originally posted by debbiejo
Look!!! you did it again...3....

Tell you the truth, I never thought that buying gum would fill my mouth with ecstasy....Even herbal Essence...A fix in the shower...LOL

.... So I did. Perhaps it's some manner of psychological flaw...

Or maybe Deano will be able to tell me if the number 3 is in any way a number of power (as I have no idea) though I know he has mentioned them before.

Ah yes, herbal essences. I have to admit they have never done anything for me, maybe if I tried them in my mouth... But in that case, at least the herbal essence ad is kind of witty, even if it is just a rip off from When Harry Met Sally. I think I would like to see more of that kind of thing, playful, more humorous ads (not ripping off When Harry met Sally) instead of all the base explicit tosh.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm 3 known to be a perfect number of god..perfection of spiritual sense.. god in Australia?......well that would make the ones who sent you there anti-sexual/chirst....But not as bad as the US.

It is odd though how the US is one of the not so sexual in commercial compared to Europe and other countries from what I've read and yet we do complain.