What did Ben mean when he said..
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Demarest
It's over, I have the higher ground.
i just want to know what Ben meant when he said that
PVS
ben trained anakin, so he knows his weaknesses.
anakin's biggest flaw is that he's weak on the lowground.
Shadow x 20
It's military. You always want the higher ground
Admiral Akbar
The higher ground is always an advantage. And considering they are both about equals the high ground gave obi wan the victory.
PVS
i believe it was RC who hinted at anakin's weakness when being hounded for spoilers.
DenKi
same thing happened for Yoda, Sidous had the higher ground in the Senate and he was throwing Pods at Yoda with ease with yoda trying for his life.
PVS
Originally posted by DenKi
same thing happened for Yoda, Sidous had the higher ground in the Senate and he was throwing Pods at Yoda with ease with yoda trying for his life.
no, thats a matter of gravity
Captain REX
Hurray for gravity, in Yoda's case.
Since Obi-Wan had the high ground, if Anakin tried to do the leap that Obi-Wan thought he would try, he wouldn't go high enough, and Obi-Wan would cut him down.
PVS
if anakin had not given away that move when he jumped on the platform, he may have won
Captain REX
Or maybe if he just moved over a little and fought sideways...

Darth Hayes
This is prob one of the really interseting threads for a while...
Maybe Obi realised that in the time it takes ani to jump and spin... he would only have to slash a few times to hit him....
Just my thought when i watched it!
amity75
Obi Wan knew how to defeat someone jumping at him from a lower height and he performed a similar, and more successful, move against Darth Maul.
El_NINO
Isnt jumping over some while slashing Obis specialty, so it would make sense if he would know how to counter his own move.
PVS
if it was so easy, anakin would have been in pieces on the platform.
i think obiwan didnt see it coming, thus the element of surprise.
the second time he did the exact same move (duh) he got his ass
handed to him...along with an arm and 2 legs
spekdah
I think also GL wanted it to "echo" what happens in the duel with Luke and Vader in ROTJ when Luke does a back flip up onto the walkway above Vader, the only difference being that Vader learnt his lesson with OB1 and instead of risking limb-loss by jumping up after Luke he throws his saber instead. Well done I say
Tangible God
Those goddamn echoes...
Except in that case Luke had the high Ground:
Luke: "It's over daddy, I have the high ground."
Vader: (thinks) "This seems familiar..........Oh Well. Here goes!"
PHIZSLICE!
Vader: "Ah f*ck! My nose!"
Luke: "My God, my father is Michael Jackson."
Emperor: "Good! Now fullfill your destiny, and take Darth Neverland's place at MY side!"
Shadow x 20
Originally posted by PVS
no, thats a matter of gravity
No Sidious won cause he did have the higher ground. He didn't have to put as much force into throwing the pods down and it took more for Yoda to throw them back upwards
Tangible God
Originally posted by Shadow x 20
No Sidious won cause he did have the higher ground. He didn't have to put as much force into throwing the pods down and it took more for Yoda to throw them back upwards Actually it's been settled that it was an even mix of gravity and high ground.
Darth Jello
for those wondering what would happen if anakin cleared obi-wan, play the episode III game
PVS
Originally posted by Shadow x 20
No Sidious won cause he did have the higher ground. He didn't have to put as much force into throwing the pods down and it took more for Yoda to throw them back upwards
yes. thats called "gravity"
that has nothing to do with having the high ground when dueling, in which case gravity has nothing to do with it, but rather an advantageous position for defense and striking.
Obi-Wan Kenobi'
Originally posted by Shadow x 20
No Sidious won cause he did have the higher ground. He didn't have to put as much force into throwing the pods down and it took more for Yoda to throw them back upwards Why is it better to have the high ground ? Because then the f*cking gravity is on your side.
Gravity > High Ground > You
Lightning_Count
Its better to have high ground cuz it makes you feel like you're the King.
Obi-Wan Kenobi'
What the ****? When swordfighting, it's hardly better to have the high ground. You have to crouch much more to block, and your feet are very vulnerable. When your low ground you can easily stab at his feet, or trip him easily.
Tangible God
Originally posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi'
What the ****? When swordfighting, it's hardly better to have the high ground. You have to crouch much more to block, and your feet are very vulnerable. When your low ground you can easily stab at his feet, or trip him easily. That's true, but in most cases, the person on the low ground does not have the height or arm length to swing as high as to make the "high-grounder," duck or crouch.
Plus the fact, that the "high-grounder," can do a little something called, "Blocking and Fighting Back." Much easier than the 'low-grounder."
PVS
Originally posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi'
What the ****? When swordfighting, it's hardly better to have the high ground. You have to crouch much more to block, and your feet are very vulnerable. When your low ground you can easily stab at his feet, or trip him easily.
picture it.
when you have the high ground, you have far more access to strike at vital areas, you have a better perspective looking down at the enemy. not only that but your opponent has to climb in order to charge you...so i guess i stand corrected in part with regards to gravity having no role...but still you cant compare that strategy to palps/yoda
kamikz
Originally posted by Tangible God
Those goddamn echoes...
Except in that case Luke had the high Ground:
Luke: "It's over daddy, I have the high ground."
Vader: (thinks) "This seems familiar..........Oh Well. Here goes!"
PHIZSLICE!
Vader: "Ah f*ck! My nose!"
Luke: "My God, my father is Michael Jackson."
Emperor: "Good! Now fullfill your destiny, and take Darth Neverland's place at MY side!"
LMAO. "Daddy".
kalsemo
Originally posted by kevy-2006
It's over, I have the higher ground.
i just want to know what Ben meant when he said that
He meant: "It's over, I have the higher ground." glare
Sorgo
Originally posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi'
What the ****? When swordfighting, it's hardly better to have the high ground. You have to crouch much more to block, and your feet are very vulnerable. When your low ground you can easily stab at his feet, or trip him easily.
Nick Gillard has stated that Anakin was a level Nine duelist (Most likely proved when he killed Dooku) and that Kenobi was a Level eight. This most likely indicates Anakin was a better duelist.
If Anakin was the better duelist and having the lower ground is better, come up with an explanation on why Kenobi won instead of Anakin.
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