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This is different from any other anti/appreciation threads(actually its both an anti and an appreciation thread. It appreciates the books, but not the films). I hope it's OK. I was very disappointed by the Harry Potter films. I only liked the third, and none lived up to my expectations. I still love the books though.

Eww I think the books are ruining the movies...

You stole my idea.
ok lets start this out with the reasons why the movies are terrible

1.Dan has blue eyes, not green.
2. dementors dont fly
3. Emma is nothing like Hermione
4. they wore dress robes to the yule ball, not dresses and suits
5. no peeves
6. as far as I can tell, the ministry believes voldie is back at the end of movie seven. this messes up the whole mood of movie five.
7. moody's eye isn't a strap on.

EDIT: the books are ruining the movies? the books came first.....

Sorry for stealing your idea.

And yeah the books came first.

As for the list...

8. The Hogwarts in the first to has a different geography from the last two. (look at hagrids hut).

9. Despite some talented, oscar quality actors like Maggie Smith and Ralph Fiennes, they all seem bored with the material.

10. They somehow made Dobby annoying.

11. Not enough of Fred and George

12. Richard Gambon plays the polar opposite of what Dumbledoor's really like. ( He gets violent when Harry's name comes out of the Goblet of Fire).

13. there will be four directors for the first five films so there is no singular definitive vision.

14. John Williams's score was one of the worst of his career, but was still probably the strongest aspect of the series.

15. John Williams left the project after three films taking his score, and the only above average aspect of the films with him.

16. Bad special effects om the first two.

17. Cutting out too much from the books.(they could have made the movies longer or could have been written in a less fragmented exagerated way.)

18. Harry Potter is too literal a book to be translated to film with no allegorical meaning, we're just watching a bunch of random magic tricks. In the books we get the sense that some form of meaning will be presented in the end, while in the movies, they just are empty pixels with no soul.

dumbledor is so wrong, just his voice even turns me off, not nearly enough of the twins. did anyone ever realize how badly done Mr. Weasley is?!? they make him out to be a fool, i hate the guy who plays him. the characters in the books are so multi faceted, while in most of the movies, the characters are flat. either good or evil, shy or outgoing. its hard to portray how many different dimmensions there really are to each character, which makes the movies exceedingly dull. i like the fourth one though, i think it was done pretty well, compared to the others at least

They were all equally bad. The only people who like the movies are H/Hr shippers, because the movies lean to that a bit.
19. Hogwarts doesn't have a choir
20. Durmstrang isn't all boys
21. Bauxbatons isn't all girls
22. There were creatures in the maze. I was anxious to see the sphinx. Where did it go?
23. Fleur is suppost to be unimaginably beutiful, with silvery hair. In the movies shes pretty, with light blonde hair. Thats it.
To be continued

24. Not enough of Flitwick
25. None of the Roal Dahl-ish humor that was in the books.
26. Fragmented, and difficult to follow if you haven't read the books.
27. Relies on the books to give character development and plot outline other than explaining them in the film.

Whoopsies I meant to say movies are ruining the books

don't worry about it

28. Harry hair is black, not brown
29. Heromine's hair is bushy, not curly and well manged
30. Cedric isn't supposed to fly back when Avada Kavadra curse hits him
31. Voldemort is supposed to scary not just ugly

32. the scar is supposed to be in the center of Harry's forhead, not slightly to the side.
33. We do actually see the Quidditch World cup in the book. Where's it in the film?
34. Hermione is supposed to have big buck teeth.
35. Lupin is supposed to turn into a wolf. Not some rabid, emaciated primate.
35. Moaning Murtle says she closed her eyes when Harry went into the prefect's bathroom. In the film she seriously sexually harasses him. It's whoreible, sorry, I mean horrible.

I know, in the books she kind of teases him. In the movie she acts like a whore basically.

36. They never explain the origins of the map.
37. They never explain that the patronus can take a form.
38. They never state the significanse of Harry's patronus.
39. They didn't do the whole Rita is animagus thing, which ruins black mailing her in the fifth book.

40. (i think) they removed the second troll from ss (or ps)

41. In COS, the threatening messages are written in ink, not blood.
42. J.K. Rowling discribes the death eaters as simply hooded figures wearing masks. Not members of the KKK.

Originally posted by Rapscallion


I noticed that too. I guess they were trying to emphasize the "really evil" aspect of the Deatheaters.

43. Harry is supposed to be at Private Drive when he has his dream about Riddle. Not at the Burrow.
43. In the dream only Wormtail is supposed to be in the room with Voldemort not the "faithful servant"also. (I think)

that last one inspired me
44. Harry didn't see crouches son at the world cup.

45. In SS, Harry and Hermione never return Norbert. Filch just gives them detention for no apparent reason other than they were out late at night
46. During their detention ing the forbidden forest, Neville is supposed to be with them, not Ron.
47. After drinking the unicorn's blood, Quirrel flies away. what the hell was that.

i don't like double posting but...
48. All that Who likes whom crap makes the characters more complex and interesting. In the movie it just gets in the way of the real story. This is a very big complaint of mine.
49. Ron has really only one facial expression for each movie. 1st movie=confusion, 2nd =fear, 3rd=he has none, 4th=pouting. WHat a crappy actor.
50. While on the subject of bad acting, it only took 2 and a half movies for "Dan" to learn how to act. At least he's better than Rupert.

51. Ginny is supposed to have red hair, not brown.

There are some movie which I like better than the books, however, there are some books which I like better than the movies.

Which ones?

Originally posted by Coonskin 13
You stole my idea.
ok lets start this out with the reasons why the movies are terrible

1.Dan has blue eyes, not green.
2. dementors dont fly
3. Emma is nothing like Hermione
4. they wore dress robes to the yule ball, not dresses and suits
5. no peeves
6. as far as I can tell, the ministry believes voldie is back at the end of movie seven. this messes up the whole mood of movie five.
7. moody's eye isn't a strap on.

EDIT: the books are ruining the movies? the books came first..... dance dance
finally!!! someone who aggrees with me that those flaws dont belong in the movie and they do not make it any better (just worse than it already is) you rock
you rock!!!!! bawlingbawlingbawling im so emmotional!!!!

Originally posted by AC/DC'S_LVR
dance dance
finally!!! someone who aggrees with me that those flaws dont belong in the movie and they do not make it any better (just worse than it already is) you rock
you rock!!!!! bawlingbawlingbawling im so emmotional!!!!
kirsten im talkin to you

Originally posted by AC/DC'S_LVR
kirsten im talkin to you
yes i just quoted myself

Alright as the only sane voice of reason reading this over the age of 12 not nit picking the details.

1. Might be green did you look closely?
2. Makes the demeantors seem more menicing and works with the
quidage attack.
3. Emma is a good idol for the young fan base that watches the movies.
4. Puts emphasys on the importance of the situation..
5. Yhea a little odd with no Peeves.
6. Movie SEVEN ? why are you worried about that now that's almost 4
years from now probably.
7. even in the books he takes the eye out to clean it.
8. I honestly don't think that they moved Hagrids house just shot from
different angles probably.
9. That could be true but there's seems to be alot of change of cast from
movie to movie so it keeps it fresh.
10. What you thought doby wouldn't be annoying?
11. That's preffrence not seeing the twins they'll make their grand
entrance in the OOTP really.
12. Yhea I do agree I really don't see why he would be so angry
uncharechteristic as an actor he should have questioned it.
13. Well there is a chance the next director will be better than the
last.
14. All prefrence John Williams is a great composer he did well with
the information and the setting he was given.
15. I don't know if I agree but that's so obscure of a fact it's hard to
dispute.
16. They could have been better sure but they worked with what was
available which by the standards of WB are prob pretty damn
good.
17. Let's just think about this the last book was what 1000 pages or
something like that you try encluding everything the movie would
be 5 and 1/2 hours long and it probably is before editing.
18. It might be a bit difficult to really show all of the magic that they
can do they do show a share bit tho and not showing everything
keeps the movies and books more "Magical"
19. Who said that they had a choir, could have been a just a group of
students that like singing.
20. Durmstangs is precived as an all male school and it sets a tone
for a strong point in the movie.
21. Bauxbatons is probably mostly girls plus is another strong point in
the movie that needs to be exagerated.
22. They wanted the surprise be something that you wouldn't have
expected.
23. Damn!! Fluer is Hot she is amazingly hot so "unimaginably
beutiful" kinda fits I'd marry her..
24. He was never meant to be a main fixture of the movie.
25. They made the movies based after the fan base closer to the
younger end of kids that prob wouldn't understand it.
26. The MAJORITY of the viewers are the people whom read the
books, or even safer to say the viewers that will view the next
few movies will be readers.
27. Same with question 26 mostly readers that watched the movies
plus the previous movies really do explain the base charachters.
28. I precive Harry to be dark haired.
29. Meh preception again, I don;t think that it's that well kept.
30. How do you know is there a science behind the curse.
31. Would like to meed volermolt in a dark alley alone "NOT ME"
32. Perception really.
and so on and so forth......

Here's some good advice from a person that takes time looking for flaws in movies.

Just sit back relax forget what you have read and watch the movie and appreciate it let the magic of the movie engulf you into the experience that's what they are meant to do.

Originally posted by Godshinto
Alright as the only sane voice of reason reading this over the age of 12 not nit picking the details.

1. Might be green did you look closely?
2. Makes the demeantors seem more menicing and works with the
quidage attack.
3. Emma is a good idol for the young fan base that watches the movies.
4. Puts emphasys on the importance of the situation..
5. Yhea a little odd with no Peeves.
6. Movie SEVEN ? why are you worried about that now that's almost 4
years from now probably.
7. even in the books he takes the eye out to clean it.
8. I honestly don't think that they moved Hagrids house just shot from
different angles probably.
9. That could be true but there's seems to be alot of change of cast from
movie to movie so it keeps it fresh.
10. What you thought doby wouldn't be annoying?
11. That's preffrence not seeing the twins they'll make their grand
entrance in the OOTP really.
12. Yhea I do agree I really don't see why he would be so angry
uncharechteristic as an actor he should have questioned it.
13. Well there is a chance the next director will be better than the
last.
14. All prefrence John Williams is a great composer he did well with
the information and the setting he was given.
15. I don't know if I agree but that's so obscure of a fact it's hard to
dispute.
16. They could have been better sure but they worked with what was
available which by the standards of WB are prob pretty damn
good.
17. Let's just think about this the last book was what 1000 pages or
something like that you try encluding everything the movie would
be 5 and 1/2 hours long and it probably is before editing.
18. It might be a bit difficult to really show all of the magic that they
can do they do show a share bit tho and not showing everything
keeps the movies and books more "Magical"
19. Who said that they had a choir, could have been a just a group of
students that like singing.
20. Durmstangs is precived as an all male school and it sets a tone
for a strong point in the movie.
21. Bauxbatons is probably mostly girls plus is another strong point in
the movie that needs to be exagerated.
22. They wanted the surprise be something that you wouldn't have
expected.
23. Damn!! Fluer is Hot she is amazingly hot so "unimaginably
beutiful" kinda fits I'd marry her..
24. He was never meant to be a main fixture of the movie.
25. They made the movies based after the fan base closer to the
younger end of kids that prob wouldn't understand it.
26. The MAJORITY of the viewers are the people whom read the
books, or even safer to say the viewers that will view the next
few movies will be readers.
27. Same with question 26 mostly readers that watched the movies
plus the previous movies really do explain the base charachters.
28. I precive Harry to be dark haired.
29. Meh preception again, I don;t think that it's that well kept.
30. How do you know is there a science behind the curse.
31. Would like to meed volermolt in a dark alley alone "NOT ME"
32. Perception really.
and so on and so forth......

Here's some good advice from a person that takes time looking for flaws in movies.

Just sit back relax forget what you have read and watch the movie and appreciate it let the magic of the movie engulf you into the experience that's what they are meant to do.

1. I didn't notice, but in the books there is alot of emphasis on his eyes being green, so they should probably make it clear in the film.
2. it didn't make them feel more menacing it made them stupid and gimmicky. As for the quidditch match, it is still an inaccuracy which would be ok if it helped make the story more presentable on film, but it doesn't.
3. How is she a good idol? The character of hermione is a good idol. Emma is just the perso who presents the character. She is not an idol.
4. What? How does the close they wear convey any importance at all? This is another needless innaccuracy. Again, it would be excuasable if it helped the story which it doesn't.
5. We agree.
6.I don't understand this complaint either.
7. Yeah he takes it out but that doesn't mean he straps it on. He just pops it out of his socket.
8. Hagrids hut is located at the edge of the forbidden forest in the first to with flat fields between it and the castle, but in film 3 it is at the bottom of a steep rocky hill. Watch the films dude it isn't hard to notice.
9. Well that is an excuse for bad acting, but it stilll doesn't change the fact that the acting is bad. And it doesn't keep it fresh. It only succeeds in keeping us from understanding the characters because different people play them.
10. He's not annoying in the books.
11. this is another deviation from the book that doesn't help the film and actually hurts it because it takes away two of the most amiable characters in the series.
12. We agree.
13. There is a chance. It doesn't change the fact that the first three sucked.
14. it's not preference if you say one score is better written than another, it just might not be true. it is preference if you say you like one score better than another. anyway we both know that this is his worst work. I also disagree that he did well with the materil he had. A childrens fantasy film is the perfect opportunity for grand over-the-top, rousing score. He was totally uninspired.
15. Yeah it is pretty obscure.
16. what , do you think that HP is some low-budget film that couldn't afford the best equipment. The spent millions on the digital effects and production designe and it still looks crappy. Your saying "WB did the best they could" doesn't change the fact that it looks awful.
17.the last book was about 600 pages. your only off by 400. and they could have made the films a little longer, around three hours, or they could stop putting in stupid prolonged action scenes that aren't in the book, and use material that is actuallly in HP.
18. that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. I said nothing about them not showing enough magic. i said that HP is a book that can't be made into a film.
19. A group of kids who like to sing???? they are being conducted by a Teacher!
20. What is this "strong" that it makes?
21. Again, what strong point does it make?
22. yeah the surprised me with all that action that wasn't there. there is a word for that. It is called disappointmen.
23. Now THAT is totally perception. You are being pretty hypocritical.
24. True, but he is still a good character, who, like the twins, adds some of Rowling's best absurd humor.
25. Roal Dahl wrote children's books1 It is meant for children to understand it. Anyways kids seem to get the humor in Rowling's books. Why can't the same humor be in the movies?
26. You know a movie really sucks when it has to rely on its source matrerial for things like plot and character development.
27. It doesn't change there beig no character development in the films. If this movie was any good, people who havn't read the books would be able to enjoy it.
28. It says multiple times in the book that it is jet black so even if you percieved it as brown, the film makers should have assumed that most people who read the books would imagine Harry as he is described.
29. It isn't perception. rowling describes her very clearly in the books. Have you read them?
30. yet again it is described in the book what happens. i suggest you read it. It's pretty good.
31. your hypocracy is astounding. this is perception on your part again. It is also perception on theirs, but they aren't preaching to other people about not letting perception control your judgment of a movie.
32. THis is not perception at all! Stop saying it is when it is actually described multiple times in alll the books. It is a fact the scar is in the center of his head. Rowling tellls us so.

"and so on and so forth"? Does this mean you can't think of response to the other 25 reasons as to why the films are bad?

You could just say the whloe thing is our perception. That is kind of the point of a message board. To you know, give your opinion. Howver, one should always defend one's opinion or perception with fact. you are totally entitled to your opinion, but I am curious to know why you are posting why the films are good in a thread which is about why the films are bad.

Originally posted by Godshinto
Alright as the only sane voice of reason reading this over the age of 12 not nit picking the details.

1. Might be green did you look closely?
2. Makes the demeantors seem more menicing and works with the
quidage attack.
3. Emma is a good idol for the young fan base that watches the movies.
4. Puts emphasys on the importance of the situation..
5. Yhea a little odd with no Peeves.
6. Movie SEVEN ? why are you worried about that now that's almost 4
years from now probably.
7. even in the books he takes the eye out to clean it.
8. I honestly don't think that they moved Hagrids house just shot from
different angles probably.
9. That could be true but there's seems to be alot of change of cast from
movie to movie so it keeps it fresh.
10. What you thought doby wouldn't be annoying?
11. That's preffrence not seeing the twins they'll make their grand
entrance in the OOTP really.
12. Yhea I do agree I really don't see why he would be so angry
uncharechteristic as an actor he should have questioned it.
13. Well there is a chance the next director will be better than the
last.
14. All prefrence John Williams is a great composer he did well with
the information and the setting he was given.
15. I don't know if I agree but that's so obscure of a fact it's hard to
dispute.
16. They could have been better sure but they worked with what was
available which by the standards of WB are prob pretty damn
good.
17. Let's just think about this the last book was what 1000 pages or
something like that you try encluding everything the movie would
be 5 and 1/2 hours long and it probably is before editing.
18. It might be a bit difficult to really show all of the magic that they
can do they do show a share bit tho and not showing everything
keeps the movies and books more "Magical"
19. Who said that they had a choir, could have been a just a group of
students that like singing.
20. Durmstangs is precived as an all male school and it sets a tone
for a strong point in the movie.
21. Bauxbatons is probably mostly girls plus is another strong point in
the movie that needs to be exagerated.
22. They wanted the surprise be something that you wouldn't have
expected.
23. Damn!! Fluer is Hot she is amazingly hot so "unimaginably
beutiful" kinda fits I'd marry her..
24. He was never meant to be a main fixture of the movie.
25. They made the movies based after the fan base closer to the
younger end of kids that prob wouldn't understand it.
26. The MAJORITY of the viewers are the people whom read the
books, or even safer to say the viewers that will view the next
few movies will be readers.
27. Same with question 26 mostly readers that watched the movies
plus the previous movies really do explain the base charachters.
28. I precive Harry to be dark haired.
29. Meh preception again, I don;t think that it's that well kept.
30. How do you know is there a science behind the curse.
31. Would like to meed volermolt in a dark alley alone "NOT ME"
32. Perception really.
and so on and so forth......

Here's some good advice from a person that takes time looking for flaws in movies.

Just sit back relax forget what you have read and watch the movie and appreciate it let the magic of the movie engulf you into the experience that's what they are meant to do. That's against the rules No appreciation in the anti threads. Just because this isn't about the characters doesn't mean you just throw the rules out the window

I don't have specific things to add to the list, because you basically took all mine. But the movies are completely awful. True fans would want a 4 hour movie with everything left intact, not the commercialized, badly acted, stripped-down pieces of crap we've been served. If you can't make a qulaity adaptation, don't do one at all.

This thread made me laugh.

Seriously though, you all need to be a little more optimistic, but Dan looks funny when he yells or something.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I don't have specific things to add to the list, because you basically took all mine. But the movies are completely awful. True fans would want a 4 hour movie with everything left intact, not the commercialized, badly acted, stripped-down pieces of crap we've been served. If you can't make a qulaity adaptation, don't do one at all.

Well, only thing we can say, and what we already know is that it was the money. I went from being very excited when the Philosopher's Stone film was released, but after seeing it, I've given to missing every new film out at its theactrical release, and only buying the 3rd and 4th films due to Alfonso Cuaron being the director on the 3rd, and the 4th because of the reviews.

I must say I was completely underwhelmed by the graveyard scene at the end of Goblet of Fire, Ralph Fiennes, as good as an actor he is, just was not that convincing. I wanted the image of Voldemort from Order of the Pheonix, a tall, slender figure in a hooded cloke, with one bone white hand visible, with spidery hands clutching a hand, not a rasping blad man with sweeping gestures.

Of course, a 4 hour movie is out of the question, but the charm of the books isn't recreated in the films. They are kids movies. And a kids movie and a kids book, are very different.

The films arem, frankly, instantly forgettable... until you reach 4, which is utter crap too. PoA may have its faults, but at least it keeps the book's spirit...

The movies suck.

First of all, they should put more emphasis on the whole "Magical World" thing. I mean, I was astounded when I saw the flying car, because I was sure they wouldn't add it. Cool thing, when I went to England on my vacation I actually saw the same exact car that was used on the scene in a huge transportation museum there.

The magical duels in COS were really stupid.
Bonnie Wright's forehead is bigger then my computer monitor. My computer monitor is actually really big.
All members of the Weasley's have red hair. I guess directors thought of this as "irrelevant."
Dan can't act for life.
Fleur wasn't that hot. Really, I've seen much better on my block.
The whole Hermione thing, I think it's good that they put Hermione as "OKEY" looking. Makes her a more likeable charachter, and I bet no-one would watch the movie with an ugly a$$ hermione.
I can't wait to see what Luna looks like thought.

Imagine how bad the films would be if it was completely american though? Hayley Joel Osmond as Harry...

I know this has been said but i don't think it was really emphasized.
52. Michael Gambon does not resemble dumbledore in ANY WAY. I think Richard Harris (movies 1 & 2) came very close to a perfect match of Dumbledore. It's too bad he died...

The book's are always better than their movies 90% of the time.

Originally posted by Geass
The book's are always better than their movies 90% of the time.


I can agree with that.

But you guys also forgot that Dobby found the Room of Requirements in the OOTP and gave Harry the gillyweed in the GoF. I just hope they put BOTH Dobby and Kreacher in HBP whenever Harry asks them to spy on Malfoy. If they don't I'm gonna be so mad.

Originally posted by Giggles
I can agree with that.

But you guys also forgot that Dobby found the Room of Requirements in the OOTP and gave Harry the gillyweed in the GoF. I just hope they put BOTH Dobby and Kreacher in HBP whenever Harry asks them to spy on Malfoy. If they don't I'm gonna be so mad.
What HP book are you talking about?It's been a while sense I have read HP books.

The missed a lot of things in the movies, but they're not awful considering you need to squeeze 500-600 pages into 2-3 hours.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I don't have specific things to add to the list, because you basically took all mine. But the movies are completely awful. True fans would want a 4 hour movie with everything left intact, not the commercialized, badly acted, stripped-down pieces of crap we've been served. If you can't make a qulaity adaptation, don't do one at all.

Oh my God i couldn't agree with you any freaking more.
The books didn't need to be made into movies at all; with those fantastic descriptions and incredibly rich imagery! I wonder why Rowling gave permission to this.
Just the whole existence of Radcliffe as Harry Potter is enough to completely ruin the movies let alone other things.

i really do have a lot of time for this post. i personally HATE the films. I think that they completely ruin the books, and put a really cheap and simple sort of veiw on them, when in fact they are FAB stories. They miss out ALLL the backstories, and lots of characters, which to me where some of the best and most captivating parts of the story, which shouldnt fit together without them. For example they missed most of dumbledors and grindewalds story in the last one. also snapes. what is with the girl in the cafe at the start of the half blood prince as well?! did that even happen? i could go on fo pages.\\

I also think most of the characters the chose are RUBBISH
Dan is a FAIL!! I HATE HIM.
Emma is nothing like hermionie
Barty crouch JR. RUBBISH!
dumbledore is portrayed as aggressive, and no where near as close to harry as he is supposed to be.
and Sirius!! GOD NO!! totally wrong actor for him