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1 of the pivital moments, specifically Mace Windu (played by Samuel L. Jackson) declaring that "I am going to end this war once and for all", that the Chancellor/Sith is "too dangerous to be kept alive". The fear and slight rage in his voice suggest, as well as with a tinge of pride he shows after bringing the Chancellor to the ground suggests that Mace Windu has become possessed with some of the Dark Side himself.

Is this due to being in the presence of concentrated evil? Is it
because he is dark skinned himself that he is more comfortable with
the term "dark side"? (I hear he also likes dark meat). Also, according to our geek files, Mace Windu uses a lightsaber style called Vapaad which takes its user close to the darkside. He developed it with Master Sora Bulq (see Darkhorse Clone Wars Volume 2, our in house geek thinks). He perhaps had to tap deep into Vapaad to defeat Palpatine in saber combat, and that may have turned him to the darkside somewhat. And speaking of Dark side, how unenlightened is it for the Jedi Council to send Padawan Skywalker, whom they don't fully trust and am not sure of (due to the confusion and fear they sense in him) to spy on and/or monitor Chancellor Palpatine whom they also don't fully trust? Unwise, this seems. I wouldn't be surprised if Mace Windu might have even learned
some funky Sith dance in some late night Cantina.

It seems Chancellor Palpatine lost in duel with Windu intentionally,
knowing Skywalker was on his way to arrive at the pivitol moment to
"rescue" him and plunge into the dark side. It seems like Windu was
just a pawn in the game.

I dont think that Mace was tapping into the darkside myself. And the council sent Anakin because the thought Palpatine trusted him. As far as wheter or not Palpatine "let" Mace win, there are quite a few threads on that very topic you should eb able to find using the search function.

We''l likely never know for sure.

IMO Palp's lost to Mace fair and square. Mace's Vapaad style brought him close to the DS in the first place. After almost being electrocted by a "defeated" Palpatine, Mace probably just thought, that "he was too dangerous to be kept alive." And he was right, he was. He had the one chance to destroy the Sith, once and for all this time...really. That seems more like profound logic and common sense to me, than the Dark Side.

And the Council sent Anakin to spy on Palps because there was not one other Jedi who Palpatine apparently trusted, so Anakin WAS the only option.

Must... resist... bad... joke.....

Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
Must... resist... bad... joke.....

my thoughts exactly

Yes, secretly, Mace believed that black is beautiful. He was spooked by his own turmoil. Any more bad jokes? SW has enough in it's script which has been sat mourn cartoon-like since 1983.

Well, technically speaking, I don't believe that he ever turned to the Dark Side. And by that, I mean that he never let his emotions control him, such as Anakin's lust did in the third movie. Indeed, he needed to take advantage of his emotions to make use of his Vaapad style of lightsaber combat. The key part of what made Vaapad such a powerful and dangerous (both to enemies and practitioners) was how it both employed and controlled these emotions which might be subject to being classified under the dark side of the Force. It was similar to Form V, with the exception that with Djem So, you could let your emotions go rampant on the enemy (as you see Anakin do in the duel between him and Dooku), as opposed to Vaapad in which you use your emotions to both attack and defend. In order to keep the concentration and discipline needed to practice the form, however, Windu would have to keep them on a tight leash. So while he uses these emotions to their advantage, and they do dance on the thin line between light and dark, the use of them never truly makes Windu dark. He had the sort of discipline needed to keep these emotions in check. You don't get a seat on the Council just for kicks. :P

This isn't to say that it is not possible for a Jedi practicing Form VII to fall to the dark side, but Windu was the co-creator of the Vaapad fighting style. I think he would have control over his creation, not the other way around. But to the short of it, no, I don't think he turned to the dark side during that fight.

Oh, and it was a very, very rare thing for a Jedi to ever consider killing an opponent. However, in the case of Sidious, who was the master to both Maul and Tyranus, I think that the Council would have understood Mace's killing of the quite possibly the very last Sith.

No, Mace never turned to the Dark Side. It didn't happen. Perhaps he was tempted by it, but so was literally *every* other Jedi to *ever* live. Nothing groundbreaking there. And while Vapaad puts its user into a state that nears something resembling the dark side, that is a pretty crucial difference from actually being tainted by it.
That he said Sidious was too dangerous to be kept alive proves nothing. After all, Yoda agreed (I don't think he went to Sidious' office to tango...), and who's going to try to argue that Yoda was tainted by the Dark Side? And I dunno about you, but I forgive Mace a little exhiliration after coming out victorious against the most skilled saber duelist he ever fought, particularly when the killing of said duelist would basically represent the end of the Sith line.
This reminds me a bit of the thread that wondered if Qui-Gonn was planted by the Sith. Both theories, if you dig deeply enough, can be somewhat supported, I guess, but just... no. It doesn't work. It's completely out of line with both characters. Mace wasn't the #2 guy on the Jedi council for nothing.

Hypothetical Council meeting, consulting Mace on his unarmed attack on Palpatine:

Yoda: "Take this matter lightly, the Council does not."

Mace: "I AM the Council!"

Taking it a step further...

YODA: Take this matter lightly, the Council does not...
MACE: I AM the Council.
YODA: Not yet.
*Lightsabers ignite, Yoda screams like the little green midget he is and leaps on Mace*

...

Wooo. w00t

Anyways, I find this thread ridiculous. He's half trying to argue that Windu might be Dark Side, and make a stupid joke.

In Star Wars- movies, at least- it is pretty damned obvious who is good and who is evil. Mace Windu, a Jedi, is good, and therefore, not evil, or even vaguely mean. It was a climactic moment, he had just fought a vigorous duel, and he was about to kill an unarmed man, of course he's going to be a bit intense.

Originally posted by jeremiahbllfrg
Was Mace Windu Darkened by the Dark Side?

Hahahahaha. Oh man.....

Originally posted by Tangible God
Hypothetical Council meeting, consulting Mace on his unarmed attack on Palpatine:

Yoda: "Take this matter lightly, the Council does not."

Mace: "I AM the Council!"


LMAO.

i think the jedi council sent anakin to spy on palpatine to use anakin as apawn in the game they were playing against the chancellor.they used anakin pure n simple.firstly th jedi knew anakin was close to palpatine and secondly the jedi knew that anakin was desperate to prove himself in their eyes ....to the level of spying on his mentor.

Originally posted by jeremiahbllfrg
1 of the pivital moments, specifically Mace Windu (played by Samuel L. Jackson) declaring that "I am going to end this war once and for all", that the Chancellor/Sith is "too dangerous to be kept alive". The fear and slight rage in his voice suggest, as well as with a tinge of pride he shows after bringing the Chancellor to the ground suggests that Mace Windu has become possessed with some of the Dark Side himself.

Is this due to being in the presence of concentrated evil? Is it
because he is dark skinned himself that he is more comfortable with
the term "dark side"? (I hear he also likes dark meat). Also, according to our geek files, Mace Windu uses a lightsaber style called Vapaad which takes its user close to the darkside. He developed it with Master Sora Bulq (see Darkhorse Clone Wars Volume 2, our in house geek thinks). He perhaps had to tap deep into Vapaad to defeat Palpatine in saber combat, and that may have turned him to the darkside somewhat. And speaking of Dark side, how unenlightened is it for the Jedi Council to send Padawan Skywalker, whom they don't fully trust and am not sure of (due to the confusion and fear they sense in him) to spy on and/or monitor Chancellor Palpatine whom they also don't fully trust? Unwise, this seems. I wouldn't be surprised if Mace Windu might have even learned
some funky Sith dance in some late night Cantina.

It seems Chancellor Palpatine lost in duel with Windu intentionally,
knowing Skywalker was on his way to arrive at the pivitol moment to
"rescue" him and plunge into the dark side. It seems like Windu was
just a pawn in the game.

mace is just a bada$$... if he wants to kill a fool, he can do that. His intention was to end the sith once and for all, as opposed to say, killing his master to become "the master"

just real quick off topic, did you notice that in the VS mode on the Episode III game, if you choose mace, when the round starts he says "I will strike you down with great vengence" a quick nod to Jules in Pulp Fiction. word.

DDD

Originally posted by DDanDevious
mace is just a bada$$...


That's why it's my name.

Mace was an insensitive arrogant cocky prick, not evil.

^^ Exactly

Mace in no way had anything to do with the darkside in Canon. EU may be different (I wouldn't know I dont read EU) but in the movies, hes good. He's just not very smart.

Wait, but I thought that because his saber was purple it meant he was half good and half bad (blue + red = purple)... Which would mean someone with a green saber would be half good and half Simpson (blue + yellow = green), right? That's follows the logic of EU doesn't it?

^ Nice

I think that Mace was going to the dark side, because the ROTS novelization said: "There was no Jedi restraint." Then something about Mace breaking away

Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Wait, but I thought that because his saber was purple it meant he was half good and half bad (blue + red = purple)... Which would mean someone with a green saber would be half good and half Simpson (blue + yellow = green), right? That's follows the logic of EU doesn't it? Yeah, that's something the true SW obsessed believe although the guy who played Mace Windu chose a purple one himself just because he thought it was neat.

Hey, here's another one! Guess he really is dark sided. \/

Lol.

Isn't Vaapad the style that allows a Jedi to unleash their rage without falling to the Dark Side?

Essentially.

Breaking the Jedi code does not make you skim close to the dark side. Mace was doing what he thought was best.

As was Anakin if I remember correctly.

The Jedi were serving the Republic. And the Republic was led by its senate, which was led by the Supreme chancellor.

Chancellor, who was fairly elected to his position was about to get killed by Mace Windu. That is called high treason.

...Yeah

council 13 makes me pitch a tent.. the schwartz is with me

Important fact of life #312: Unless they're really big, moths can't pass through glass.

he was not dark no not dark looking

Racist in the house!

Originally posted by Sesse
As was Anakin if I remember correctly.

The Jedi were serving the Republic. And the Republic was led by its senate, which was led by the Supreme chancellor.

Chancellor, who was fairly elected to his position was about to get killed by Mace Windu. That is called high treason.

Not when the Chancellor is a Sith Lord and a war criminal who was playing both sides against each other and staging a war to gain absolute power over the government and the universe. Plus, Mace knows that 1)Palpatine controls the courts and the senate thus he will never be thrown in jail and 2) If Palps is not killed, then he will order his clone army to massacre the Jedi so Mace has no choice but to kill Palps but that didn't happen due to Anakin's foolish interfearence.

Originally posted by jeremiahbllfrg
council 13 makes me pitch a tent.. the schwartz is with me

But Shatterpoint says that Vaapad take you to the dark side if you're not careful. I remember Mace actually invented Vaapad...

Yes, and as i said before, the ROTS novelization said how he lost control

I would have just killed instead of announcing it.

I would have laughed maniacally and start proclaiming my uber 1337 lightsaber skillz.

Originally posted by PVS
Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
Must... resist... bad... joke..... my thoughts exactly Yeah, I know... couldn't we have used a better word for the topic than "darkened"?

Let's just change it to blackened and get it all over with..