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Doesn't LOE say they can't be penetrated by a lightsaber? In video games lightsabers go through them (they have to otherwise it'd be impossible the beat one) but on some it takes mutiple hits to destroy the shield. We never see a lightsaber go through one in the movies. In The Defense of Kamino ARC trooper Alpha destroys one with a rocket and Shaak Ti is with him but I don't think she actually ever cuts through one's shields.


From starwars.wikicities.com: A few years before the Yuuzhan Vong War, Luke Skywalker and his wife, Mara Jade Skywalker, encountered a droideka onboard the remains of the Outbound Flight Project dreadnaughts. Even though it was decades old and not operating at its best, they still had a difficult time defeating it.

So did they vut through it? If not, how did they destroy it?

I dont think a saber can. first off it it could then Qui-Gon and Obi woulda not run away from them in Eps I.

secondly sabers have never been shown to cut through any type of energy field as I can remember. (also in Eps. I the wall Shields in the Duel of fates)

All in all I'd say no, a Saber cant. but I also wouldn't think the on board shield of a Destroyer lasts for ever.

And most importantly, jedi should be able to just use the force to destroy a Destroyer Droid. So its not like it makes a whole lotta difference.

I'm pretty sure it could, if a heavy laser can. Droidekas aren't dangerous because lightsabers can't penetrate their shields, they're dangerous just because the shield presents a tactical difficulty of not being able to simply reflect shots into it as it approaches, and it puts out a lot of firepower.

There'd damned dangerous, in that sense. But it's only a portable shield; eventually it would wear down, or it isn't strong enough to deflect a well-placed or strongly-delivered blow.

Yes, QGJ and Obi-Wan couldn't kill those two because of the hail of fire coming their way in an enclosed space.

We know physical objects can pass through shields, so they would just have to get close enough, technically speaking. In practical terms, their situation was, as QGJ described it, a deadlock.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
We know physical objects can pass through shields

makes you wonder why nobody used bullets, huh?

lmao, bullets i feel would be much better against a jedi, i mean, you can pretty much see a lazor coming at ya - and the fact that you can't see a bullet makes me wonder

I know Battlefront II isn't concrete evidence, but a lightsaber cuts through em' like butter

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Yes, QGJ and Obi-Wan couldn't kill those two because of the hail of fire coming their way in an enclosed space.

We know physical objects can pass through shields, so they would just have to get close enough, technically speaking. In practical terms, their situation was, as QGJ described it, a deadlock.

We don't know that. actually as I can recall the only shields ever seen to be passable by physical objects was the Gungan shields in Eps I. All other shields have been impassable by physical objects as far as I can remember. Ray shields, and the Red shield/ door things in the 'Duel of Fates' come to mind as non passable, as well as non penetrable with a lightsaber. (since Obi and Anakin didnt attempt to saber their way out of the ray shields I'd assume its because they couldn't)

I think that Sabers can't pass through any other type of energy. (why else would blaster fire reflect rather then just disintegrate?)

This is assuming that the energy is of a comparable type and intensity. not necessarily the same intensity as a lightsaber, but close to it.

As for the destroyers I think that a saber could get rid of the Destroyer shields after a few blows. Seeing as the Destroyers have an on board battery of sorts and the fact that to deflect a lightsaber with those on board shields would require a decent amount of energy. I think that after maybe 2 or 3 blows from a saber the shields would 'fail' but the saber would never actually cut through the shield.
The only odd thing about Destroyer shields is that the Droid itself can fire out of the shield. But presumably the same laser fire cannot pass through the shield. So its like a selectively osmotic shield of sorts. Therefore its hard to say anything about them really. I'm just going from what I've seen and what seems logical.

yes, but a lazor is not a solid object so to speak

I don't see any reason to doubt the fact the Gungan shield example holds true for all force fields in Star Wars, especially as the physical proton torpedos could go down the shielded Death Star exhaust port whereas the lasers could not. Furthermore, you could walk up to the Hoth shield and blow it up, which definitely indicates you could pass through it physically and destroy it from within, whereas you could not just blast through it.

GL clearly has this idea of force fields only blocking energy. Physical objects can push through them.

Mabey the droidekas shields are more similar to the ray shields, just not as strong. Obi-Wan and Anakin could not get through it when captured inside it.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I don't see any reason to doubt the fact the Gungan shield example holds true for all force fields in Star Wars, especially as the physical proton torpedos could go down the shielded Death Star exhaust port whereas the lasers could not. Furthermore, you could walk up to the Hoth shield and blow it up, which definitely indicates you could pass through it physically and destroy it from within, whereas you could not just blast through it.

GL clearly has this idea of force fields only blocking energy. Physical objects can push through them.

I really don't see it. Perhaps shields of the invisible nature (like the ones your referring too save for the Gungan shield, its the only anomaly in my theory) are passable by physical objects. All other visible shields have been impassible by physical objects as far as I can remember. so it would seem that.

Visible = Impassible
Invisible = passable

And since the Destroyer shields are visible shields then it stands to reason that they are not passable by any objects.

Something tells me that the shield on Hoth would have been more visible, but where the battle took place, it wasn't due to the size of the shield.

Ray shields and thse shield walls in TPM...ray shields seem to be of high intensity, not that anyone could cut there way out of any kind of shield, but the shield walls in TPM aren't shields. They seem to be just...energy. They aren't meant to block laser fire, it's a mining facility, after all, not a warzone.

Why does a palace have a place like that? (TPM duel area)

Shields are just energy. An energy barrier.

I'm agreeing with Anomaly here. Sabers are of intense energy, but by the look and sound of the examples given, they can't cut through the energy of a Droideka shield.

I'm pretty sure, that it also depends on the force of the thing coming at it. That may explain why the Naboo fighters' lasers penetrated its shields, and why I doubt that a lead bullet would not disintegrate against the shield, unless of course, the shield is weaker than it looks.

If the Jedi had 1000 pounds behind his strike, then the shield may dissipate, but other than that, I think it needs the kind of magnitude that the fighters' laser let off.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Shields are just energy. An energy barrier.

Yes, but not like the ones in the Palace. Those are designed to act as shields. I'm not sure what the laser walls are, but they're not shields.

And I don't know, Shadow, but that's what it is. A plasma mining facility.

And about ray shields...they are different than droideka shielding. They are meant to keep something from moving and flesh cannot pass through it.

Luke and Mara were only able to destroy the droidika they faced by using the force to push a lightsaber underneath the droid while the shield was off, once the shield back on, luke used the force to turn on the saber, which then destroyed the droideka in an explosion that destroyed the saber. They were not able to penetrate the shield with their sabers.

Meh.. I never got the idea that a Saber will probably be able to just go through it.

Originally posted by Stun
lmao, bullets i feel would be much better against a jedi, i mean, you can pretty much see a lazor coming at ya - and the fact that you can't see a bullet makes me wonder

I know Battlefront II isn't concrete evidence, but a lightsaber cuts through em' like butter

Bullets would be useless against Jedi. They don't need to see projectiles heading their way- they can feel them in the Force. They could block bullets as easily as blaster bolts.

As for droideka shields, no, a lightsabre can't pierce it in just one strike. However the shield generators can be shorted out. Since it would take a great deal of energy to stop a lightsabre, if you could land several blows, the shield would overload and the generator would short out. The problem is getting close enough to do so.

Face it- GL clearly sees things this way. We have many examples of physical objects going through shields and absolutely no evidence that they ever act to the contrary. No matter how much you 'see it' or not, it's clearly there. You cannot simply ignore the Gungan example- it shows that this is a universal principle, visible or otherwise (which is just a matter of style anyway).

Hence, get inside the droideka shield, and the sabre could easily destroy it. That just happens to be very difficult, though.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Bullets would be useless against Jedi. They don't need to see projectiles heading their way- they can feel them in the Force. They could block bullets as easily as blaster bolts.

As for droideka shields, no, a lightsabre can't pierce it in just one strike. However the shield generators can be shorted out. Since it would take a great deal of energy to stop a lightsabre, if you could land several blows, the shield would overload and the generator would short out. The problem is getting close enough to do so.

i'm not saying that Jedi would have any problems with bullets, my argument is that bullets - in certain scenarios, would be better than a blaster bolt

lightsabers cannot penetrate energy sheilds thats why the elecstaff that grevious bodyguards carry cannot be cut by a lightsaber because it has a energy sheild over it

Originally posted by Stun
i'm not saying that Jedi would have any problems with bullets, my argument is that bullets - in certain scenarios, would be better than a blaster bolt

I agree with you about that. If you read the novel 'Shatterpoint', there are a few scenes where they discuss some of the pros and cons of bullets vs blasters.

Against a Jedi, your one edge is that they wouldn't be able to send your shots back at you- since the bullets would vaporise as soon as they hit the lightsabre blade. You wouldn't fare any better with actually hitting them though.