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Like for example when Obi Wan clearly said "Anakin my allegiance is to the Republic, to Democracy!.."

Would The Order have had a Democratic or Republican view on things?

That's... so weird in many ways...

...maybe some Jedi were Republicans and others were Democrats but I have to agree with Ush here.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
That's... so weird in many ways...

Weird? How so..

The question's cut and dry. Are they one or the other or not.

To me, since they had a religious-esque view on things then I'd compare them to the republican/religious right who are conservative and old fashion sticking to the old ways.

But then you had unorthodox Jedi like Qui Gon who might've had a more liberal view of things where he was for reform and always in cahoots with the counsel.

And that's beside the fact that all Jedi served a Republic so I think at least most of them were republicans. I even heard the Jedi were privileged as hell. they had no possessions but they had unlimited funds..

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I even heard the Jedi were privileged as hell. they had no possessions but they had unlimited funds..

Well, look at it like this....

REPUBLIC + UNLIMITED FUNDS = DIRTY OIL DEALS...

what a ridiculous brainfart of a thread

Originally posted by PVS
what a ridiculous brainfart of a thread

You again..lol

Your're that guy/girl that gets really upset with people alot of the time because they posts things you don't agree with and think they're not intelligent if you don't like the topic.

How are you?

what? no im that guy who cant stand attention whores

Communism!!!

Originally posted by PVS
what? no im that guy who cant stand attention whores

Like yourself? hehe

Read this, whatever your name is, don't care..

Almost always, chronic verbal abusers behave the way they do for one of two reasons:

1 - A small percentage are simply klutzes. They're ignorant. They know no other way to communicate with other human beings. All they need is education.

2 - As for the rest, they're desperate for attention and they know that throwing hostile language at you will get your attention.

As oppose to you, at least I provided proof why you're an attention whore, while you just say it to say it. hehe...

Oh dear....it has begun....

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Like yourself? hehe

Read this, whatever your name is, don't care..

Almost always, chronic verbal abusers behave the way they do for one of two reasons:

1 - A small percentage are simply klutzes. They're ignorant. They know no other way to communicate with other human beings. All they need is education.

2 - As for the rest, they're desperate for attention and they know that throwing hostile language at you will get your attention.

As oppose to you, at least I provided proof why you're an attention whore, while you just say it to say it. hehe...



so in other words: "i know you are, but what am i?"

how original.

Originally posted by PVS
so in other words: "i know you are, but what am i?"

how original.

Your pretending to not be smart again when I know you are ...

It's not "I know you are, but what am i?" but more like "I know you are, and here's why.."

Get it. And stop pretending silly..

wow, that smilie does an excellent job of hiding your feelings of frustration and inadequacy. also your pseudo-psychological profile of me is quite impressive. what useful and relevant posts

but anyway, if you paid any attention to the movies you wish to debate, you would know that jedi are simply servants of the republic and are concerned in no way with political partisanship, play no role in the democratic process, and in fact do not trust politicians at all. they have but one job: preserve the peace and defend the republic. nothing more.

so the answer is: neither

PVS just said it all.

Originally posted by PVS
wow, that smilie does an excellent job of hiding your feelings of frustration and inadequacy. also your pseudo-psychological profile of me is quite impressive. what useful and relevant posts

but anyway, if you paid any attention to the movies you wish to debate, you would know that jedi are simply servants of the republic and are concerned in no way with political partisanship, play no role in the democratic process, and in fact do not trust politicians at all. they have but one job: preserve the peace and defend the republic. nothing more.

so the answer is: neither

Change the typo pseudo to factual. And I if you could see well, it wasn't a smile but the "cool" expression meaning that i'm cool and not frustrated like you get all the time at people. Here, I'll just write it down for you the next time, how 'bout that..? Like "C00L"

How can it be neither. You meant to type "both". If not then can you please explain to me why Obi Wan said "My allegiance is to the Republic, to Democracy!" Which literally means he's allied with both views/concepts. And if they serve the Republic or Democracy they obviously are aligned it's leaders which are for the most part politicians. Like 'em or not.

Obi Wan never seemed uncomfortable with Bail.

"Big Grin"

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
it wasn't a smile but the "cool" expression meaning that i'm cool and not frustrated

ok, thanks for that. but be honest, who are you really trying to convince? me...or you

anyway...

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
How can it be neither. You meant to type "both". If not then can you please explain to me why Obi Wan said "My allegiance is to the Republic, to Democracy!" Which literally means he's allied with both views/concepts. And if they serve the Republic or Democracy they obviously are aligned it's leaders which are for the most part politicians. Like 'em or not.


no they are NOT alligned with any partisan views. they are meant to preserve order in the republic, disregarding whatever political shifts occur (if any) or whatever ideals are most popular. the ONLY time they ever intervened with the political process was under the suspicion that the sith had control of the senate.

their allegence is to democracy, which means "THE PEOPLE" (wow, what a concept! ) so their only allegence is to the safety and preservation of 'the people', but they do so without involving themselves in the political ideals and affairs of the people. they are peace keepers. their only concern is that people are not oppressed, enslaved, or murdered by the millions. quite simple.

again, if you were interested in paying attention to the films and having a decent debate, instead of blowing hot air and desperately trying to keep your precious topic afloat dispite its complete and proven absurdity, as has been the case with all your other threads in other kmc forums, perhaps i would not be so harsh.

intentionally scewing my point to "win" your petty and nonsensical battle will always prove to be fruitless...unless your just being a last word whore, in which case please let me know and i will simply concede and allow you to squeeze out a final brain dropping.

now lets examine the sentence shall we?

"their allegence is to democracy, which means "THE PEOPLE" ...hope that clears it up and you can close your dictionary.com window. way to completely avoid relevant points, and then cry about straying off your precious topic, which btw is rubbish

and the rest of your post is a pile of ad hominem jibber jabber and overly used smilies, which seem to be your best defense mechanism...so ill just ignore it

oh and when you do inevitably reply, why not address the point which you have so artfully dodged by switching the topic to me.

Originally posted by PVS
intentionally scewing my point to "win" your petty and nonsensical battle will always prove to be fruitless...unless your just being a last word whore, in which case please let me know and i will simply concede and allow you to squeeze out a final brain dropping.

now lets examine the sentence shall we?

"their allegence is to democracy, which means "THE PEOPLE" ...hope that clears it up and you can close your dictionary.com window. way to completely avoid relevant points, and then cry about straying off your precious topic, which btw is rubbish

and the rest of your post is a pile of ad hominem jibber jabber and overly used smilies, which seem to be your best defense mechanism...so ill just ignore it


Only in KMC I love it, what can I say.

Your mishap was of course you stepping into my thread trying to step on me harshly as you normally do others merely cause our views do not concur.

My posts are ad hominem jibber jabber? lol you're the one who became personal with me. I stayed on topic while you decided to digress because you saw a threat in me. An opposition. And since you think people who disagree with you are 100% wrong you develop your own defense mechanism in the form of insults.


How did I avoid relevant points when I went. I was talking about Democracy. That was the subject right? Unless the dished out degradations are the main part you mean?

Come, let's have a drink, son...
Got some advice for you *sips*

Your awful use of the word "Whore" as a pseudo prefix for everything bad in your opponent, lost it's juice, you've used it up to much, say something else. You must've used it 30 times already this month.

Oh yea, about the last word, if you truly want it, you can have it...let me know.

Originally posted by PVS
oh and when you do inevitably reply, why not address the point which you have so artfully dodged by switching the topic to me.

so much for a simple request.

your flooding with insults and your endless feigning of amusement, all the while still avoiding the simple and straight forward point, tells me your not even mature enough to handle a conversation on star wars...

This could be one of the most irrelevant threads that tried to have a point that I've ever seen.

It has nothing to do with Star Wars. And more importantly people who don't live in the US couldn't give a damn.

FOTN, I cannot believe you are being quite this silly.

How in the heck can you take that quote of Obi-Wan's and somehow apply it to the American political process? Can anyone really be THAT obtuse? That's why this thread is all kinds of weird. Your supporting quote is nonsensical.

Obi-Wan is saying he is loyal to the concept of Democracy, and to the Republic that is in Star Wars.

This has absolutely no connection to any real life political party- 'Democrat' and 'Republican' are just names (and in fact both are interested in both the American Republic and the concept of Democracy).

So this entire thread is completely bust.

fine. maybe it will sink in better if you all say it.

Originally posted by PVS
fine. maybe it will sink in better if you all say it.

Niice...hehehe

A new low but a nice new low. Sicking your dogs on me, heh..

i love it..

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Niice...hehehe

A new low but a nice new low. Sicking your dogs on me, heh..

i love it..

yes, ush is a global mod, but really his first mission is to answer my every command. i have a remote control with which i activate him so that he may decend upon a pointless thread and destroy it with cursed logic.

its all a conspiracy against you.

in fact, nobody at kmc has an opinion. everyone is just out to get you and nothing more.

OOGEY BOOGEY BOOGEY!!!!

Originally posted by PVS
yes, ush is a global mod, but really his first mission is to answer my every command. i have a remote control with which i activate him so that he may decend upon a pointless thread and destroy it with cursed logic.

its all a conspiracy against you.

in fact, nobody at kmc has an opinion. everyone is just out to get you and nothing more.

OOGEY BOOGEY BOOGEY!!!!

what a joke...and not even a funny one

Originally posted by PVS
what a joke...and not even a funny one

A joke?

Ah, you must think I'm kidding.. Do you think I'm kidding?

I'm being serious. Handle your own shit own your own.

insignificant troll,
the reason people disagree and call your thread rubbish
is because its...well...rubbish.

and if you take a moment to dry your tears you should check back to the first page and see that ush posted here before i did. guess that shoots down your little theory

Originally posted by FistOfThe North

I'm being serious. Handle your own shit own your own.

handle my shit?
this is just a star wars forum, tough guy.

Uhhh...

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
A joke?

Ah, you must think I'm kidding.. Do you think I'm kidding?

I'm being serious. Handle your own shit own your own.




Uh Oh....

Gangsta's in da hood G.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Uh Oh......

Gangsta's in da hood G.

oh dont say anything, or he'll cry and say i summoned you here as well...to "handle my shit" so it seems

And the Jedi are democrats... no attatchment to feelings, love, people, fetuses....

Originally posted by PVS
oh dont say anything, or he'll cry and say i summoned you here as well...to "handle my shit" so it seems

It's cool PVS, I've been around here almost as long as you, I can "handle" my own bidness, POTNUH

Originally posted by PVS
oh dont say anything, or he'll cry and say i summoned you here as well...to "handle my shit" so it seems



lol what a ***...

The reason why you think my threads are rubbish is because you disagree with them only. Plain and simple.

Insignificant troll, haha your're just not a people person are you. Go get laid dude, lol


Ush showed up a 2nd time uneccesarily then you were right under him talking more shit something like "fine. maybe it will sink in better if you all say it"..suspect.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North


lol what a ***...

The reason why you think my threads are rubbish is because you disagree with them only. Plain and simple.

Insignificant troll, haha your're just not a people person are you. Go get laid dude, lol


Ush showed up a 2nd time uneccesarily then you were right under him talking more shit something like "fine. maybe it will sink in better if you all say it"..suspect.

yawn

thanks for the history lesson.
you done crying now?
did you get it all out of your system, sunsine?

Originally posted by PVS
yes, ush is a global mod, but really his first mission is to answer my every command. i have a remote control with which i activate him so that he may decend upon a pointless thread and destroy it with cursed logic.

its all a conspiracy against you.

in fact, nobody at kmc has an opinion. everyone is just out to get you and nothing more.

OOGEY BOOGEY BOOGEY!!!!


HAHAHAHA!!! PWNED!


But in answer to the original topic (which makes no sense to me), the Jedi are politically neutral and are not involved in the politics of the Galactic Republic. They are guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy... they don't answer to any American political party... but to the will of the Force.

Originally posted by PVS
yawn

thanks for the history lesson.
you done crying now?
did you get it all out of your system, sunsine?

Just lettin' you know...I mainly wanna leave a bad taste in your mouth of me..

And sunshine(?) str8 male here..

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Just lettin' you know...I mainly wanna leave a bad taste in your mouth of me..

And sunshine(?) str8 male here..

if you are straight then why is your goal to follow me around obsessively and leave a bad taste in my mouth? your choice of words is pretty suspect if you ask me, sunshine

I'll make this very clear, FOTN.

I made my first comment in this thread because your opening post was gibberish.

I made my second because you made a hopeless reply to my comment.

These are factors of your own doing, not anyone else's. When people turn on you like this, before you try and blame some conspiracy of hate against you, look at the sense of what you are posting.

Now, this petty bickering here tires me. The thread is pointless- closed.