SilverSpider/Dizzle's Team Tournament:Third Round Drafts

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thesilverspider
Just a lil reminder of the limits
CAPS
Strength: Thing
Killability: Thing
Energy Projection: Iron Man
Speed: Quicksilver (Mach 10)
Healing: Deadpool

BANNED STUFF
Telepathy
Telekinesis
One-hit-kill moves (which includes teleportation and intangibility)
Power enhancing that goes beyond any of the caps
Non-comic characters (books are the exception)

"Killability" means that one must be able to take no more damage than Thing. This mostly applies to the transferring of one's consciousness, like Iceman, Hydroman, or Sandman. These characters have much less durable bodies than Thing, but will not be killed if their bodies are destroyed, and are therefore much harder to kil than Ben. That is bad, they are banned. Killability does NOT apply to "immortals" like Deadpool or Deathstroke, since they can be disabled for fairly long pieces of time.

thesilverspider
Guys remember two picks this round...........

roughrider
From DC, I pick The Ray.

From Marvel, I pick Horus.

roughrider
Haha! First!

Scoobless
hmmm... thought i'd try and get the first post in.... even though i wasn't going to draft yet.... damn you

Scoobless
you need Bios...... damn you

Adam Warlock
And

Unicorn:

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/u/unicorn.htm

Adam Warlock
Go here for info on Thunderstrike II.

http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-thunderstrike2.html

roughrider
First one: Horus

Real Name: Horus
Aliases: Horos, Hor

Height: 6' 5"
Weight: 410 lbs
Eyes: Brown
Hair: Unrevealed
Distinguishing Features: none

Occupation: Egyptian god of justice and retribution
Citizenship: Celestial Heliopolis
Place of Creation/Birth: Unrevealed

Known Relatives: Osiris (father), Isis (mother), Seth (uncle), Nepthys (aunt), Geb (grandfather), Nut (grandmother), Hathor (wife), Duamutef, Imsety, Qebhsnuf, Hapi (sons); (in Sphinx's alternate time line) Storm (wife)
Known Allies: Gods of Heliopolis, Thor, Thing, Apollo, Indra, Quetzocoatl, Shango, Tawa, Earth Force; (in Sphinx's alternate timeline) the Avengers
Known Enemies: Seth, Demogorge; (in Sphinx's alternate timeline) Mutant Liberation Force

Intelligence: Normal (4/10)
Strength: Superhuman Class 75 (9/12)
Speed: Enhanced Human (5/10)
Flight Speed: Unrevealed, possibly escape velocity
Stamina: Metahuman (7/10)
Durability: Metahuman Regenerative (10/14)
Agility: Superhuman (6/7)
Reflexes: Superhuman (6/7)
Fighting Skills: Good hand-to-hand combatant
Special Skills/Abilities: None known
Superhuman physical powers: In addition to the above listed physical abilities, Horus possesses the power to project solar energy (focused through his staff), and the ability to paralyze others with the stare of his left eye
Superhuman Mental Powers: none known
Special Limitations: None
Source of Superhuman Powers: Horus is a member of the race of superhumans known as the Egyptian gods of Heliopolis
Personal Weaponry: Carries a staff with a large blade at one end that he uses to focus his solar energy blasts; (in Sphinx's alternate timeline, Horus used a large ankh for this purpose)

DarkCrawler
Yay, it's started!

I pick Blitzkrieg: http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blitzkrieg.htm
And Ultimate Thing: http://www.marveldirectory.com/ultimatebios/ultimatething.htm

thesilverspider
Bios people Bios...............

your pick is not valid without bios.................SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

roughrider
Second: The Ray

The Ray



Publisher DC Comics
First appearance The Ray #1 (February 1992)
Created by

Statistics
Real name Raymond C. "Ray" Terrill
Status Active
Affiliations Freedom Fighters
Previous affiliations Justice League, Young Justice, Justice Society of America
Notable aliases
Notable relatives "Happy" Terrill (father), Joshua Terrill (brother), Thomas Terrill (uncle/adoptive father, deceased)
Notable powers Flight
Generation of light and solid light constructs



Powers and abilities
Ray can absorb, store and process light and use the energy to fly, create bursts of light and solid light constructs.

Not much in specifics, but hasn't shown to be above limits.

Scoobless
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yay, it's started!

I pick Blitzkrieg: http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blitzkrieg.htm
And Ultimate Thing: http://www.marveldirectory.com/ultimatebios/ultimatething.htm


why Ultimate Thing? if he's any stronger than regular Thing he's out.... if he's not then you'd be better with regular Thing

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Scoobless
why Ultimate Thing? if he's any stronger than regular Thing he's out.... if he's not then you'd be better with regular Thing

Okay, just to get through it...I change Ultimate Thing to 616 Thing:
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/t/thing.htm

And I still having Blitzkrieg, unless you have anything against him...
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blitzkrieg.htm

Scoobless
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Go here for info on Thunderstrike II.

http://www.immortalthor.net/

lol... i was gonna take him

Scoobless
hmmmm....

Ultimate Thor:

http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-ultimatethor.html

i think he's in the limits... class 75 - 100... about the same as Thing

and i have every Ultimate comic.... he's never shown Warp speed

DarkCrawler
He can teleport things with his hammer.

Adam Warlock
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He can teleport things with his hammer.

Yeah, what he said. Damn teleporting cheaters!!!

Thunderstrike II can't teleport or fly. He can thunder jump though.

Scoobless
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He can teleport things with his hammer.

D'oh

Dark Urizen
Originally posted by roughrider
Second: The Ray

The Ray



Publisher DC Comics
First appearance The Ray #1 (February 1992)
Created by

Statistics
Real name Raymond C. "Ray" Terrill
Status Active
Affiliations Freedom Fighters
Previous affiliations Justice League, Young Justice, Justice Society of America
Notable aliases
Notable relatives "Happy" Terrill (father), Joshua Terrill (brother), Thomas Terrill (uncle/adoptive father, deceased)
Notable powers Flight
Generation of light and solid light constructs



Powers and abilities
Ray can absorb, store and process light and use the energy to fly, create bursts of light and solid light constructs.

Not much in specifics, but hasn't shown to be above limits.

Yeah, i wanted the Ray too, but a bio i read said he can turn into some kind of energy and travel at lightspeed sad

I choose 616 Colossus before the whole Legacy Virus thing and Quasar if he's allowed.

Colossus:

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/colossus.htm

Quasar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_(comics)

Scoobless
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Okay, just to get through it...I change Ultimate Thing to 616 Thing:
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/t/thing.htm

And I still having Blitzkrieg, unless you have anything against him...
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blitzkrieg.htm

seems ok to me

Scoobless
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Yeah, i wanted the Ray too, but a bio i read said he can turn into some kind of energy and travel at lightspeed sad

I choose 616 Colossus before the whole Legacy Virus thing and Quasar if he's allowed.

Colossus:

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/colossus.htm

Quasar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_(comics)


LMAO... not a hope in hell of Quasar being accepted into this

illadelph12
Dr. Light:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Light_DC_Comics_supervillain)

Vertigo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_%28Marvel_Comics%29

Checkmate.

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by illadelph12


Vertigo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_%28Marvel_Comics%29

Checkmate.

Rendering people unconscious sounds like a psionic attack to me...erm

If he also disorients eyesight, it goes at illusions...

Dark Urizen
Originally posted by illadelph12
Dr. Light:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Light_DC_Comics_supervillain)


"was temporarily transformed into living light."

Bobby Drake - like characters break the killability limit sad

Adam Warlock
Quasar thumb down thumb down thumb down thumb down

illadelph12
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Rendering people unconscious sounds like a psionic attack to me...erm

If he also disorients eyesight, it goes at illusions...

She emits a sonic pulse which effects the inner ear, causing disorientation and unconsciousness with prolonged exposure. Perfectly legal.

roughrider
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Yeah, i wanted the Ray too, but a bio i read said he can turn into some kind of energy and travel at lightspeed sad

I choose 616 Colossus before the whole Legacy Virus thing and Quasar if he's allowed.

Colossus:

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/colossus.htm

Quasar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_(comics)

I haven't seen any bio of Ray that claims lightspeed.
Or that he can merge with light and be beyond harm. He harnesses it for his purposes.

illadelph12
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
"was temporarily transformed into living light."

Bobby Drake - like characters break the killability limit sad

He no longer has those abilities. That was pre resurrection.

grey fox
DAMMIT I WANTED FREAKING COLLOSUS ......and i cant have ult collosus ether....

illadelph12
I have to go to a meeting. Be back in a bit.

thesilverspider
Did he say Quasar.........laughing

Dark Urizen
Why is Quasar banned again? The potential energy output level or what? confused

Scoobless
Originally posted by grey fox
DAMMIT I WANTED FREAKING COLLOSUS ......and i cant have ult collosus ether....

there's one or two reasons i wouldn't want Colossus

Scoobless
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Why is Quasar banned again? The potential energy output level or what? confused

Beacause he can throw down with the Silver Surfer whenever he wants and you can't be sure of the outcome

thesilverspider
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Why is Quasar banned again? The potential energy output level or what? confused
he brakes almost every limit..........
and have potential for ohko......

Adam Warlock
Quasar whooped on a Watcher. Stalemated Thor. Defeated Binary, Jack Of Hearts, Etc...

Dark Urizen
Originally posted by Scoobless
Beacause he can throw down with the Silver Surfer whenever he wants and you can't be sure of the outcome

PIS just like Thing was throwing down with SS.

Originally posted by thesilverspider
he brakes almost every limit..........
and have potential for ohko......

How so? Name the limits he breaks....show me evidence of him being stronger or more durable than thing (which he's not)
And what potential for ohko?????

Dark Urizen
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Quasar whooped on a Watcher. Stalemated Thor. Defeated Binary, Jack Of Hearts, Etc...

whooped on an IDIOT watcher, and that was Bullsh1t.

Those were due to him being able to absorb energy, which Iron Man can do as well.

Adam Warlock
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150139xy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150140jg.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150171cq.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150185fi.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150195up.jpg

Adam Warlock
The power of his constructs:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/field.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/field2.jpg

thesilverspider
I'm pretty sure quasar is faster then the limit allows.
his constructs can be used to cause an ohko.

roughrider
I thought Quasar would be disallowed just for cosmic speed alone.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
PIS just like Thing was throwing down with SS.

NO... Quasar actually is that powerful

thesilverspider
Quasar is BANNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please this guy is way more durable then the thing.

grey fox
Ok my original plan/picks were lost upon losin g collosus's , so these are my new picks

Optimus Prime
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/o/optimusprime.htm
(He is a marvel character)

Synch
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/synch.htm

Dark Urizen
That fight with the watcher is absolute crap AW, given the fact thatone single watcher was a match for a fully powered galactus.

That's nice, he has strong constructs which he used as shields. Have you seen what Iron Man's shields can protect you from?

Yeah, the speed thing is a problem.

Yeah, he can use his constructs to OHKO. Just like IM can use his weapons to blow your head off immediately.

Adam Warlock
Quasar also threw his fight with Surfer to save the Universe. If the fight continued, it could have gone either way.

Scoobless
i thought we stopped with the power copying characters?

Scoobless
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
That fight with the watcher is absolute crap AW, given the fact thatone single watcher was a match for a fully powered galactus.

That's nice, he has strong constructs which he used as shields. Have you seen what Iron Man's shields can protect you from?

Yeah, the speed thing is a problem.

Yeah, he can use his constructs to OHKO. Just like IM can use his weapons to blow your head off immediately.

are you seriously arguing that Quasar is a lower class character than Iron Man?

blink

Adam Warlock
Silver Surfer failed to absorb Ego.

Quasar didn't.

thesilverspider
Did he say optimus prime..............What the f**k?

thesilverspider
Quasar is BANNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

roughrider
Originally posted by grey fox
Ok my original plan/picks were lost upon losin g collosus's , so these are my new picks

Optimus Prime
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/o/optimusprime.htm
(He is a marvel character)

Synch
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/synch.htm

Optimus Prime can lift 4,000,000 pounds - that's 2,000 tons!
Even if it's one zero too many (I always thought there was a mistake there...), it's still 200 tons. Way over the limit. He's out.

Scoobless
Originally posted by grey fox
Optimus Prime
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/o/optimusprime.htm
(He is a marvel character)

"He can lift 4000,000 lbs"

that's like.... 2,000 tons

grey fox
Shit......

Adam Warlock
Now I can use Unicorn to his full Iron Man level potential. Scoobs and Dizzle remember Unicorn well.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Now I can use Unicorn to his full Iron Man level potential. Scoobs and Dizzle remember Unicorn well.

not really.... stick out tongue

what about this guy?

Dark Urizen
Ok, Quasar is out. I choose Aleta.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleta

Before you jump in and say shit like Oh noes GLGLGL!!!!!!!oneoneone i can prove she doesn't break the limits in any way, because i have her appearances. Problem is i don't have them all, and i'm currently......shifty.......getting them, but it'll take a while. So don't ban her from the get-go, because i'll be here with proof later on.

So i just said i'll take her, so someone else doesn't first, and i'll bring some proof later on that she doesn't break any rule. If i don't feel free to ban her.

grey fox
Ok how about Ymir .

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/y/ymir.htm

DarkCrawler
"Ymir's body is extraordinarily resistant to injury, and although it can be shattered, as ice can, Ymir can cause the fragments of his form to reassemble."

No Ymir.

Adam Warlock
Originally posted by Scoobless
not really.... stick out tongue

what about this guy?

Are you choosing him Scoob?

His durability might be slightly higher than Thing since he has gone toe to toe against Thor a few times but... Probably not. Ulik is okay. Britain will stomp a mudhole in him.

Scoobless
Originally posted by grey fox
Ok how about Ymir .

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/y/ymir.htm

high class 100

grey fox
Not that high......

roughrider
No Ymir. thumb down
The stats:

Intelligence: Normal (4/10)
Strength: Incalculable (12/12)
Speed: Superhuman (6/10)
Stamina: Godlike (9/10)
Durability: Demi-godlike regenerative (12/14)
Agility: Superhuman (6/7)
Reflexes: Superhuman (6/7)
Fighting Skills: relies of brute force
Special Skills/Abilities: none
Superhuman physical powers: Aside from the above listed attributes, Ymir's body continually generates intense cold, and he can freeze anything by touching it. Ymir is fully immortal and can neither age nor die. Ymir's body greatly resembles ice, and although it can be shattered, he can then mentally cause his body to reform.
Superhuman Mental Powers: none
Special Limitations: Like all Ice Giants, Ymir's size is dependent on the presence of cold temperatures. Of it were not for his ability to generate intense cold, Ymir's body would shrink and melt when exposed to intense heat.
Source of Superhuman Powers: Ymir is the eldest and most powerful member of the other-dimensional race of Ice Giants
Personal Weaponry: Carries an enormous ice-covered club that may be made entirely of ice. Also can create and hurl gigantic ice-spears.

DarkCrawler
He's nearly equal to Surtur, I think...

thesilverspider
Originally posted by grey fox
Ok how about Ymir .

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/y/ymir.htm
laughing

grey fox
Originally posted by thesilverspider
laughing

Ha frickin ha , it's pretty damn hard trying to find guy's when your list is to damn high , i know how you feel iladeph....

Scoobless
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Are you choosing him Scoob?

His durability might be slightly higher than Thing since he has gone toe to toe against Thor a few times but... Probably not. Ulik is okay. Britain will stomp a mudhole in him.

I reserve the right to change these drafts.... stick out tongue

Mr F

Khellendros
Hey kids, when can we change previous draft picks? Is that today too?

EDIT: Whoever picked Spartan, I explained to everyone else that in his original body, he was only about class 80, and well within the killiability limits so long as you don't try the whole "transfering to a back-up body when too damaged" thing. No Void powers, and no Platinum upgrade.

EDIT EDIT: Um...
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/horusatn.htm
"He cannot be killed unless a major portion of his bodily molecules are somehow destroyed and even then, it might be possible for Osiris or a group of Egyptian Gods working together to revive him."
Way past Thing in killability.

Scoobless
Changing Ulik for Ultimus

Khellendros
Originally posted by Scoobless
Changing Ulik for Ultimus
Um, an Eternal? Those guys who can't be killed unless you disperse their molecules?

grey fox
How about fing fang foom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_Fang_Foom

Scoobless
Originally posted by Khellendros
Um, an Eternal? Those guys who can't be killed unless you disperse their molecules?

"Ultimus is believed to be a Kree Eternal".... it's known for sure

Scoobless
Originally posted by grey fox
How about fing fang foom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_Fang_Foom


"Fin Fang Foom possesses vast superhuman strength; the upward limit of what he can lift exceeds 100 tons"

Khellendros
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/dazzler.htm

grey fox
DAMMIT

Scoobless
Ditching Mr Fantastic for Hermod

grey fox
Hmmmm , Dagger
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/dagger.htm

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Scoobless
Ditching Mr Fantastic for Hermod

His speeds rival the running or flying speeds of Hermes?

"Hermes is the fastest of all the Olympian gods whether in running or flying. He can run on land at supersonic speeds (the speed of sound is 770 mph at sea level) and is capable of flight at speeds just below that of the speed of light, 186,000 miles per second. Crossing between dimensions such as from Olympus to Earth does not diminish his speed in the least. Hermes can appear to be invisible to mortal eyes when he runs at supersonic speeds. Hermes stamina is virtually inexhaustible due to his godly metabolism. "

Scoobless
"Powers/Abilities: Hermod possesses the conventional attributes of an Asgardian god including superhuman strength (Class 30), stamina, a long-life enchantment and a great resistance to all earthly diseases and injury. He also has the ability to move faster than any other god in Asgard at speeds to rival the Olympian god Hermes and the mutant Quicksilver"

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/hermodthor.htm

it says he rivals Quicksilver in speed

DarkCrawler
Okay.

grey fox
Any qualms about me using dagger

Scoobless
Originally posted by grey fox
Hmmmm , Dagger
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/dagger.htm

"Dagger can also, by an act of will, generate "light-knives" with which she can kill even a victim in good health by depriving him or her of all of his or her life energy"

life sucking knives? sounds like OHKO

roughrider
Originally posted by grey fox
Ha frickin ha , it's pretty damn hard trying to find guy's when your list is to damn high , i know how you feel iladeph....

You want another Transformer who falls within strength limits, there are a lot. Brawn is about 95 tons; Gears is a little below him, and can fly in robot mode. Or Wheeljack; he can fly and has a lot of weapons.

K Von Doom
Klaw

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/k/klaw.htm

shifty

grey fox
Originally posted by roughrider
You want another Transformer who falls within strength limits, there are a lot. Brawn is about 95 tons; Gears is a little below him, and can fly in robot mode. Or Wheeljack; he can fly and has a lot of weapons.

What about megatron/galvatron

illadelph12
Originally posted by Khellendros
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/dazzler.htm

Good pick Khells. She was on my list.

illadelph12
Originally posted by grey fox
Any qualms about me using dagger

Dagger can soul eb. thumb down

Scoobless
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Klaw

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/k/klaw.htm

shifty

Klaw can't die.... Doom cut him up to make lenses in Secret Wars and he just lay there asking questions and singing to himself

Khellendros
http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/venom.html

grey fox
Originally posted by Scoobless
Klaw can't die.... Doom cut him up to make lenses in Secret Wars and he just lay there asking questions and singing to himself

Lenses ? i didn't know doom was working with specsavers...

illadelph12
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150139xy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150140jg.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150171cq.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150185fi.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150195up.jpg

HOLY SHIT!!!!

Hell no!!! thumb down Are you kidding me??

roughrider
Originally posted by Khellendros
Hey kids, when can we change previous draft picks? Is that today too?

EDIT: Whoever picked Spartan, I explained to everyone else that in his original body, he was only about class 80, and well within the killiability limits so long as you don't try the whole "transfering to a back-up body when too damaged" thing. No Void powers, and no Platinum upgrade.

EDIT EDIT: Um...
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/horusatn.htm
"He cannot be killed unless a major portion of his bodily molecules are somehow destroyed and even then, it might be possible for Osiris or a group of Egyptian Gods working together to revive him."
Way past Thing in killability.

Horus durability -

Durability: Metahuman Regenerative (10/14)

And that defines as:

10 - Metahuman Regenerative: able to regenerate injured or missing brain cells, tissue, limbs or organs

Within the Deadpool-style limits of healing.

And as far as the molecules - he can't do it himself. He needs help from a higher power for it to possibly happen. Unlike characters such as Swamp Thing or Hydroman, who can put their consciousness elsewhere and reform on their own.

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by roughrider
Horus durability -

Durability: Metahuman Regenerative (10/14)

And that defines as:

10 - Metahuman Regenerative: able to regenerate injured or missing brain cells, tissue, limbs or organs

Within the Deadpool-style limits of healing.

Umm...yeah, but he apparently can heal from any damage he is caused unless it's molecular dispersion. "able to regenerate injured or missing brain cells, tissue, limbs or organs": So basically he can heal everything in his body.

K Von Doom
I'll take Nova

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_(comics)

shifty

Khellendros
Which one?

Scoobless
Originally posted by K Von Doom
I'll take Nova

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_(comics)

shifty

can i ban shifty smilies? smile

grey fox
So dagger get's the gasface.....

roughrider
Originally posted by grey fox
What about megatron/galvatron

Nope. Pretty much equal to Op. Galvatron is even stronger.
Classic Transformers, I can tell you indivudual strength limits.

Ethereal
is shapeshifting legal?

grey fox
Originally posted by roughrider
Nope. Pretty much equal to Op. Galvatron is even stronger.
Classic Transformers, I can tell you indivudual strength limits.

...and that just about solidifies you as a good guy , anyone who knows that much about TF can't be an *******...

roughrider
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Umm...yeah, but he apparently can heal from any damage he is caused unless it's molecular dispersion. "able to regenerate injured or missing brain cells, tissue, limbs or organs": So basically he can heal everything in his body.

He can't heal from everything. Here are the levels above his, with feats he can't achieve.

11 - Demi-godlike: able to withstand all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion
12 - Demi-godlike Regenerative: able to heal all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion
13 - Godlike: able to reconstitute body after total molecular disintegration
14 - Totally Indestructible: absolutely cannot be injured

Scoobless
Originally posted by grey fox
...and that just about solidifies you as a good guy , anyone who knows that much about TF can't be an *******...

lol... i got series 3 and 4 on DVD for Christmas.... set from just after the Movie

big grin

plus Transformers is what got me into comics in the first place.... back when i was about 7 years old

illadelph12
Originally posted by K Von Doom
I'll take Nova

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_(comics)

shifty

Nova, the Xandarian Centurion???

thumb down

illadelph12
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Klaw

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/k/klaw.htm

shifty

thumb down

Living sound. Beyond killability.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by illadelph12
thumb down

Living sound. Beyond killability.

He can be knocked out though.

illadelph12
Originally posted by King_Mungi
He can be knocked out though.

So can Silver Surfer.

thumb down

Scoobless
so can Galactus

King_Mungi
Originally posted by illadelph12
So can Silver Surfer.

thumb down

Klaw is hell of a lot easier to knock out then Surfer.

grey fox
Does Dagger get the gasface.....

illadelph12
Was round 2 even complete yet? What were LP, Von Doom, and Ethereal's 2nd picks?

Scoobless
Originally posted by grey fox
Does Dagger get the gasface.....

pretty much

illadelph12
Originally posted by grey fox
Does Dagger get the gasface.....

Sadly, yes. She's one of my favorite characters too. She can short out a person's life force with her soul daggers. She's an OHKO. Sorry man.

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by illadelph12
Was round 2 even complete yet? What were LP, Von Doom, and Ethereal's 2nd picks?

We didn't have the patience to wait.

dman2008
Okay here are my last two picks

Red Tornado
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Tornado

and lastly
Major Disaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Disaster

dman2008
any problems

Scoobless
I hate freakin' Wiki bios... they're never that specific about powers

DarkCrawler
"now Disaster can cause chaos at will. His deal with Neron greatly enhanced his powers enabling him to see the strands of chaos around him. The disasters he can now control range from being able to command asteroid showers without breaking a sweat to causing heart attacks, nose bleeds and even making people trip up. He appears to have no real limitations and can cause chaos even if he isn't concentrating. He also has devised a force field for himself, using his powers. He has also been revealed as an Earth Elemental."

Sounds like mattermanipulation/telekinesis.

illadelph12
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Klaw is hell of a lot easier to knock out then Surfer.

Dog, Klaw can create functioning duplicates of the Fantastic 4 made out of solid sound. thumb down

King_Mungi
Originally posted by illadelph12
Dog, Klaw can create functioning duplicates of the Fantastic 4 made out of solid sound. thumb down

Yeah and? that still doesn't put him on Silver Surfer level.

Scoobless
Originally posted by dman2008
Okay here are my last two picks

Red Tornado
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Tornado

and lastly
Major Disaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Disaster

Isn't Red Tornado made of air?

illadelph12
Originally posted by dman2008
Okay here are my last two picks

Red Tornado
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Tornado

and lastly
Major Disaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Disaster

laughing

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Red Tornado is arguably more powerful than Storm. Major Disaster has causality powers enabling him to make a comet strike opponents.

They get the gasface. thumb down

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Scoobless
Isn't Red Tornado made of air?

He's an air elemental in a android.

grey fox
Dagon

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/dagon.htm

illadelph12
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah and? that still doesn't put him on Silver Surfer level.

Nope, but it makes him too powerful for this competition. Sorry Mungi.

The KO ability was just a retort to you saying he wasn't durable because he can be knocked out.

DarkCrawler
" He has several rather undefined mystical occult powers such as the ability to resurrect the dead as zombies, and to procure the souls of mortals to retrieve back to his realm."

Dagon could possibly raise his dead teammates...

Scoobless
Originally posted by grey fox
Dagon

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/dagon.htm

you want the humanoid one or the big fish one?

King_Mungi
Originally posted by illadelph12
Nope, but it makes him too powerful for this competition. Sorry Mungi.

The KO ability was just a retort to you saying he wasn't durable because he can be knocked out.

Some of the members that were allowed could easily take him. Your cut for the power abilities needs some work. He's no way unbeatable.

ScarletSpider
My pics: Thin Man
http://www.geocities.com/newinvaders/thinman.htm

Siryn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siryn

illadelph12
Originally posted by grey fox
Dagon

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/dagon.htm

laughing

He collects souls, and he's also a blonde from ancient Kush, which means he defies the laws of reality. thumb down

(Mainly the soul gathering to return to his realm thing).

Khellendros
Thin Man teleports.

dman2008
Ok I can see people disagreeing with Major disaster he is too powerfull

But can i please keep Red Tornado. I mean while He can create stronger gusts of win the Storm can thats basicly the only powers he has are that and flight and super strength while Storm can channel almost as strong winds and lightning and can control the other weather elements which I think makes her more powerful then Red Tornado.

So can I please keep Red Tornado

i will let go of Major Disaster however

grey fox
And what would my zombiefied team-mates be able to do...jack shit . Zombies are unable to use powers i think.....

and the soul gathering thing seems more like a plot power , used to only get home .

dman2008
heres my replacement for Major disaster

Terra
http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/terra.html
Is she allowed?

illadelph12
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
My pics: Thin Man
http://www.geocities.com/newinvaders/thinman.htm

Siryn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siryn

Siryn's an excellent choice. Props.

Thin Man's powers allow him to disperse his body extradimensionally and warp his body, which results in Mr. Fantastic-esque abilities, yet far more durability due to the nature of his powers (reality warping).

Sorry, Thin Man get's the gasface. thumb down

Siryn's a very good pick.

Adam Warlock
No to Nova!!! Nova Richard Rider would have been my first draft pick. He has cosmic speed and his gravimetric pulse puts him above Iron Man. Dizzle already canned him/my pick.

I don't know enough about Nova Frankie Raye, but she's a herald, and is probably over the limits.

No to both Nova's.

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grey fox
Thin man teleports

DarkCrawler
Wait - We are able to change our earlier drafts, right? (Scoob did so, I think)

illadelph12
Originally posted by grey fox
And what would my zombiefied team-mates be able to do...jack shit . Zombies are unable to use powers i think.....

and the soul gathering thing seems more like a plot power , used to only get home .

It's not your teammates I'm worried about, it's your opponents. He's a friggin Nubian God that collects souls to travel extradimensionally.

Soul ebbing gets the gasface. thumb down

Sorry Fox.

dman2008
Well can I have Red Tornado and Terra

grey fox
Originally posted by ScarletSpider


Siryn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siryn

"Siryn has also developed an ability to influence human beings with a certain pitch of her voice, causing them to fall in love with her (apparently regardless of the person's gender/sexual orientation) and making them susceptible to her suggestions."

Mind control

Siryn get's the gasface

Scoobless
Originally posted by illadelph12
Siryn's an excellent choice. Props.

the reason i never picked her was because of this:

"By focusing her sonic vibrations into an intense beam, Siryn creates what she calls her "sonic lance," which can shatter any known solid substance except adamantium and vibranium."

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/siryn.htm

seems like a bit much.... able to shatter the Thing with one attack

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Wait - We are able to change our earlier drafts, right? (Scoob did so, I think)

Scoobless
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Wait - We are able to change our earlier drafts, right? (Scoob did so, I think)

I've still got my picks from the first two rounds.... i just went through three or four guys in this round before i settled on two

Khellendros
Originally posted by dman2008
Well can I have Red Tornado and Terra
Terra uses TK on rock and earth. People have already said Red Tornado is too strong. He's got a ton ofother powers recently that put him over the top.

grey fox
Originally posted by illadelph12
It's not your teammates I'm worried about, it's your opponents. He's a friggin Nubian God that collects souls to travel extradimensionally.

Soul ebbing gets the gasface. thumb down

Sorry Fox.

No dammit , what the hell can zombies do . Let's be honest a single head-shot (Most of these characters have something that can take of a zombies head off in one go) and it's down .

illadelph12
Originally posted by dman2008
heres my replacement for Major disaster

Terra
http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/terra.html
Is she allowed?

Terra's a very solid pick. I don't think sprouting volcanoes counts as an OHKO either. However, she can create rock creatures with undefined strength that were trouble for Super Boy.

I'm torn.

stormfront13
ok, my picks are bloodstorm, and krystallin

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1191


http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=624


the bio on krys is bad, her powers are more specific than just creating crystals, well not really. but i'll post a better bio later. and i know that storm was banned, but bloodstorm isn't as skilled with weather powes as storm is.

illadelph12
Originally posted by grey fox
No dammit , what the hell can zombies do . Let's be honest a single head-shot (Most of these characters have something that can take of a zombies head off in one go) and it's down .

Yeah, but you can't do that when you're the zombie because he took your soul. He doesn't create Resident Evil-like zombies. Sorry man.

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