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I did a search of the threads on this forum and I couldn't find one like this (if there is then I'm really sorry )...
But anyway, I just wish they's bring back the old Jean Grey. I'm ssoooo tired of her dying. What do you guys think?

long live marvel girl

yep but scott should stay with Emma

Hoooraaay for the original MARVEL GIRL!!!
(and yes, Scott shoud stay with Emma)

Okay. So why did you guys vote the way you voted?
And those of you who said Scott should stay with Emma... WHY?!

Originally posted by katie_girl09
Okay. So why did you guys vote the way you voted?
And those of you who said Scott should stay with Emma... WHY?! Okay.
1) I'm not so much of a fan of those uber powerful characters. I prefer those with rather "moderate" powers (Mystique, Icarus...), though there are exceptions (Sorm, Emma).

2) The Phoenix concept is really cool, but became WAAAYYY overused during all this time and so lost A LOT of it's fascination and scaryness for me:
"OH MY GOD, THE PHOENIX! She will certainly save the world (after beating the sh*t out of us) and then she will die...just to be back one or two years later, to do the same AGAIN!!! yawn

3) Emma is cooler than Jean and, despite her seeming heartlessness, really loves Scott...without holding back, without shame and in giving him the ease to open himself as well, something Jean was not able to do, eventhough it's pretty important in a mature relationship imo.

Originally posted by wannabe
Okay.
1) I'm not so much of a fan of those uber powerful characters. I prefer those with rather "moderate" powers (Mystique, Icarus...), though there are exceptions (Sorm, Emma).

2) The Phoenix concept is really cool, but became WAAAYYY overused during all this time and so lost A LOT of it's fascination and scaryness for me:
"OH MY GOD, THE PHOENIX! She will certainly save the world (after beating the sh*t out of us) and then she will die...just to be back one or two years later, to do the same AGAIN!!! yawn

3) Emma is cooler than Jean and, despite her seeming heartlessness, really loves Scott...without holding back, without shame and in giving him the ease to open himself as well, something Jean was not able to do, eventhough it's pretty important in a mature relationship imo.
Jean wasn't open about loving Scott?

Originally posted by katie_girl09
Jean wasn't open about loving Scott? I said, that she was not able to bring SCOTT to the point of opening himself completely to HER, making him feel unashamed of whatever. But now that you mention it...yes, Jean was also not able to open herself as far as Emma, or why do you think Scott had the feeling of something standing between them, something that drove him away from her?
Btw...being with a partner who is either allmighty, evil, dead or a combination of any of these feats is not exactly a good prerequisite for a satisfying and working relationship!!!

wanting to have sex with wolverine probably kept jean from being too "open," too.

Originally posted by Disappear
wanting to have sex with wolverine probably kept jean from being too "open," too.

Originally posted by Disappear
wanting to have sex with wolverine probably kept jean from being too "open," too.

Originally posted by wannabe
I said, that she was not able to bring SCOTT to the point of opening himself completely to HER, making him feel unashamed of whatever. But now that you mention it...yes, Jean was also not able to open herself as far as Emma, or why do you think Scott had the feeling of something standing between them, something that drove him away from her?
Btw...being with a partner who is either allmighty, evil, dead or a combination of any of these feats is not exactly a good prerequisite for a satisfying and working relationship!!!
Yeah that's true. I'm so tired of her dying. I think that the reason for her always dying is that they made her waaay too powerful as the Pheonix, so now the writers don't know what to do with her. So they just keep killing her and bringing her back. Think about it. If she were a regular part of the X-men, their conflicts wouldn't be very interesting.

LONG LIVE PHOENIX!!!

Originally posted by Dr.Genesis
LONG LIVE PHOENIX!!!

Agreed

i love ur sig GS did u make it?

Originally posted by katie_girl09
Yeah that's true. I'm so tired of her dying. I think that the reason for her always dying is that they made her waaay too powerful as the Pheonix, so now the writers don't know what to do with her. So they just keep killing her and bringing her back. Think about it. If she were a regular part of the X-men, their conflicts wouldn't be very interesting. Exactly!

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Originally posted by Dr.Genesis
LONG LIVE PHOENIX!!!Agreed Who would have thought, sweety?!

(Btw...oh the irony: long LIVE the character who is destined to die...)

i say bring bak good 'ol marvel girl with powers that gave her a kool edge, but didnt make her a freekin god or wateva....the whole dying thing is not koool...esp after its been done so much....i say...bring her bak and keep her as she used tobe...or just get rid of her forever

Originally posted by Defender
i love ur sig GS did u make it?

My friend DarkC made it for me. Thank u.

The thing is...now it would be hard to have one without the other....unless the Phoenix found another host {which she might have} ...and also the idea of the Phoenix is that it dies to be re-born..so obviously it's hard to kill it for good...honestly I wish they'd just let Jean rest for a few years..then bring her back as Phoniex...but with a storyline that means she manages to expel the Phoenix for good..

Originally posted by Lady Fi
The thing is...now it would be hard to have one without the other....unless the Phoenix found another host {which she might have} ...and also the idea of the Phoenix is that it dies to be re-born..so obviously it's hard to kill it for good...honestly I wish they'd just let Jean rest for a few years..then bring her back as Phoniex...but with a storyline that means she manages to expel the Phoenix for good..

After New X-men and Endsong it would be damn near impossible as Jean and Phoenix are one and the same. Shes literally a part of it.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
After New X-men and Endsong it would be damn near impossible as Jean and Phoenix are one and the same. Shes literally a part of it. Exactly...it's kind of sad...but I don't think there is a place in the X-men for Jean/ Phoenix anymore...I guess that's why she's gone and she knew she had to...

jean's operated under a non-phoenix context for most of her career, even though current continuity says that should be impossible. so, why would it be hard for her to return sans the phoenix brand on her suit?

Originally posted by Disappear
jean's operated under a non-phoenix context for most of her career, even though current continuity says that should be impossible. so, why would it be hard for her to return sans the phoenix brand on her suit? Because it's more than just a motif on her suit...

only so long as people make an issue about it. anyone could bring her back as jean grey, and simply explain away the lack of phoenix in one manner or another, and be done with it. she could be the hal jordan of the marvel universe.

I have to disagree. I don't want to see Jean as plain old Marvel Girl because then, she'll lose most of her appeal. Jean as Phoenix is a fascinating character and the X-Men do nead a ultra-powerful character.

You have any idea how much money Marvel has made off of writing about Phoenix?

Originally posted by eternitygoddess
I have to disagree. I don't want to see Jean as plain old Marvel Girl because then, she'll lose most of her appeal. Jean as Phoenix is a fascinating character and the X-Men do nead a ultra-powerful character.

You have any idea how much money Marvel has made off of writing about Phoenix?
True. Of course they've made a ton off of Jean/Pheonix. But I still maintain that they made her much too powerful. In fact, I think that her being so invincible is starting to make her kind of boring. Isn't that why Wolverine gets on everyone's nerves? How interesting would their confrontations with villians be when we all know that Jean could kill them in five seconds?

agreed
i have thought of that too..its is already expected that she can kill all the other opponents even in a split sec
so how do you solve that problem?
by taking away the Phoenix which is actually a part of her?
any suggestions?
maybe i want jean to use only Psychokinesis & telepathy in many ways excluding the influence of the Phoenix but how is that possible?

I'm so glad this turned out to be a preference thread...

It would have been mind boggling as a fight.

*Doesn't make a comment on to which he prefers*

Mmm... Lady Fianna's sig... purpley goodness.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Mmm... Lady Fianna's sig... purpley goodness. Blinkalicious.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm so glad this turned out to be a preference thread...

It would have been mind boggling as a fight.

*Doesn't make a comment on to which he prefers*
Are you being sarcastic? Written sarcasm really isn't my strong suit...

i hate both of them.

Originally posted by megaroguefan
i hate both of them.
Then why bump this thread from 2 years ago?

well they've astablished that jean and phoenix are the same so they probably gonna make her come back one more time and find a way to make her die for good...if that happens i would love to see her go out with a bang =D

so would i. i mean i like the character but as i'm sure that it's been stated before, she's overdone. how many times can you come back to life and still think that everyone is going to be affected by it.

"Oh, Jean's/Phoenix's back."

"Oh really? Do we get an ass whoopin' or do we hug her?"

"I don't know. She has a new colored suit on now. It's blue and gold."

Phoenix forever, but if you are going to kill her off, do it in style.

Then again a mutant may reverse time and cause another One More Day epic, where people who should still be dead are alive; house of M never happed ect. ect.....just a thought....