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There is a twist it takes place under a red sun so Supermans powers are gone and the planet is magnetic so Coloosus would not be able to turn into metal unless he wanted to become stuck to the plent. Who wins?

lol.

Supes.

He's got way more experience and he's a bloody big bloke anyway.

Supes has some combat skill's right?

But Colossus has the strength and size advantage plus he's no slouch when it comes to combat skill.

He's been trained by wolverine and cyclops. that has to count for something

i'll say Colossus wins

Both have no power and have to rely on skill only, like humans. Of course this goes to Colossus. Superman has no skills since he is already strong, therefore he doesn't train as Colossus does.

Superman's heat vision cant melt him? i know colossus can stay up to 100 degrees or something liek that but Supes's heat visison isnt enuff?

Originally posted by DrDoom101
Superman's heat vision cant melt him? i know colossus can stay up to 100 degrees or something liek that but Supes's heat visison isnt enuff?

No powers for anyone of them.

Supes knows a bit of martial arts. He's no Richard Dragon but I certainly think he could put down Colossus.

Okay Supes never had any martail arts traing an rarely trins at all for anything were as Colosus trained alot like in thwe ight room and mostly in the Danger room. Do Colosus takes this one hands dwon.

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You think a guy who hangs around Batman, Wonder Woman, and Orion doesn't know how to fight? The JLA train together all the time.

I like colossus a lot. I think he has some of the coolest powers around, having being invulnerable, not having to eat or breathe in his organic steel form, having stamina that enables him to go full blast for weeks possibily without tiring and having enchanced speed because for his great muscularity. However, supes has in my opinion, the best powers around, he's more powerful, faster but a mile and then some, stronger and has numerous other abilities which would be too much to handle for Colossus or many others.

Originally posted by Lighthammer
There is a twist it takes place under a red sun so Supermans powers are gone and the planet is magnetic so Coloosus would not be able to turn into metal unless he wanted to become stuck to the plent. Who wins?

well colossus obviously.......basically superman has no powers so he is just a human...now colossus can still turn into steel.but he will just stick to the planet.if he does so..well so what......superman wont be able to do shit to colossus when he is in armored form...but he wont be able to hit superman...since he cant move..so its stalemate

My Mistake, I posted a comment before reading the with a twist aspect of this fight.

I would still content that superman wins though, even if they're fighting under a red sun, since superman doesn't immediately lose all his stored solar energy under a red star.

It would take a little while for superman to loose his powers, as it did during the return to krypton story arc, when he and his father Jor-el fought Rao extremist on krypton under a red giant star.

Colossus is very tough, when it comes to resistance to heat, he can withstand temperatures of 9000 degrees or more before his skin is affected by such intense heat. However, contradictory to what someone stated above, supes heat vision can exceed 9000+ degrees under normal solar-powered conditions but this is under a red star.

So, if superman's cells have enough solar might in them(and I think they really will) he could heat vision Colossus and win this battle without needing to make physical contact with Colossus and lose energy faster..

Neither of them are great HTH combatants. But Superman wins because of sheer power tho he never remembers his speed when fighting.

Originally posted by Ultimate Rage
well colossus obviously.......basically superman has no powers so he is just a human...now colossus can still turn into steel.but he will just stick to the planet.if he does so..well so what......superman wont be able to do shit to colossus when he is in armored form...but he wont be able to hit superman...since he cant move..so its stalemate the thread-maker said no steel transformation for piotr

Actually the uy before you hjad it right that if you read the thread in the beginning I mentioned he could turn into metal but that it would be disadvised because he wouild get stcuk to the planet.

With careful planning colossus takes this.

colossus , grabs supes throws him down jumps on top of him and changes when he is just above him . 300 Pounds of metal zooming down at a 'normal' person is gonna break quite a few bones.....

Both without powers? Superman. Just because he has great powers, doesn't mean that his fighting skill sucks...