Feds After Google Data!!!!

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Sir Whirlysplat
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/13657303.htm

Feds after Google data
By Howard Mintz
Mercury News
The Bush administration on Wednesday asked a federal judge to order Google to turn over a broad range of material from its closely guarded databases.

The move is part of a government effort to revive an Internet child protection law struck down two years ago by the U.S. Supreme Court. The law was meant to punish online pornography sites that make their content accessible to minors. The government contends it needs the Google data to determine how often pornography shows up in online searches.

In court papers filed in U.S. District Court in San Jose, Justice Department lawyers revealed that Google has refused to comply with a subpoena issued last year for the records, which include a request for 1 million random Web addresses and records of all Google searches from any one-week period.

The Mountain View-based search and advertising giant opposes releasing the information on a variety of grounds, saying it would violate the privacy rights of its users and reveal company trade secrets, according to court documents.

Nicole Wong, an associate general counsel for Google, said the company will fight the government's effort ``vigorously.''

``Google is not a party to this lawsuit, and the demand for the information is overreaching,'' Wong said.

The case worries privacy advocates, given the vast amount of information Google and other search engines know about their users.

``This is exactly the kind of case that privacy advocates have long feared,'' said Ray Everett-Church, a South Bay privacy consultant. ``The idea that these massive databases are being thrown open to anyone with a court document is the worst-case scenario. If they lose this fight, consumers will think twice about letting Google deep into their lives.''

Everett-Church, who has consulted with Internet companies facing subpoenas, said Google could argue that releasing the information causes undue harm to its users' privacy.

``The government can't even claim that it's for national security,'' Everett-Church said. ``They're just using it to get the search engines to do their research for them in a way that compromises the civil liberties of other people.''

The government argues that it needs the information as it prepares to once again defend the constitutionality of the Child Online Protection Act in a federal court in Pennsylvania. The law was struck down in 2004 because it was too broad and could prevent adults from accessing legal porn sites.

However, the Supreme Court invited the government to either come up with a less drastic version of the law or go to trial to prove that the statute does not violate the First Amendment and is the only viable way to combat child porn.

As a result, government lawyers said in court papers they are developing a defense of the 1998 law based on the argument that it is far more effective than software filters in protecting children from porn. To back that claim, the government has subpoenaed search engines to develop a factual record of how often Web users encounter online porn and how Web searches turn up material they say is ``harmful to minors.''

The government indicated that other, unspecified search engines have agreed to release the information, but not Google.

``The production of those materials would be of significant assistance to the government's preparation of its defense of the constitutionality of this important statute,'' government lawyers wrote, noting that Google is the largest search engine.

Google has the largest share of U.S. Web searches with 46 percent, according to November 2005 figures from Nielsen//NetRatings. Yahoo is second with 23 percent, and MSN third with 11 percent.

ElectricBugaloo
main point:


"The government can't even claim that it's for national security," Everett-Church said. "They're just using it to get the search engines to do their research for them in a way that compromises the civil liberties of other people."

soleran30
Donny Deutsch has had several shows now with ways to attempt and hold these internet companies accountable. However the govt is just out of line ONCE again with civil liberties and their TRUE responsibilities.

PVS
i was going to post this but i didnt feel like hearing "derp derp diderp another antibush thread derp", so thank you for posting it

Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by PVS
i was going to post this but i didnt feel like hearing "derp derp diderp another antibush thread derp", so thank you for posting it

No Probs

Darth Jello
didn't the FBI complain about data swamping from the NSA and CIA thwarting their antiterrorism investigations?

KidRock
More jealous democrat BS..

Darth Jello
You know Kidrock, you'll be at risk once they find out about all those searches you did for michigan militia websites

KidRock
Originally posted by Darth Jello
You know Kidrock, you'll be at risk once they find out about all those searches you did for michigan militia websites

Michigan militia?

§cooter
laughing

KidRock
big grin

PVS
hey kidrock, remember what i told you in this thread?
http://www.google.com/search?hs=Z23&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=+%22how+do+i+make+a+bomb%22&btnG=Search



well...welcome to the terror suspect list smile

http://www.google.com/search?hs=Z23&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=+%22how+do+i+make+a+bomb%22&btnG=Search

Hit_and_Miss
lol I'll expect the Fbeyes round ma house any day now PVS! lol...

KidRock
Originally posted by PVS
hey kidrock, remember what i told you in this thread?
http://www.google.com/search?hs=Z23&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=+%22how+do+i+make+a+bomb%22&btnG=Search



well...welcome to the terror suspect list smile

http://www.google.com/search?hs=Z23&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=+%22how+do+i+make+a+bomb%22&btnG=Search

oh noes derp derp the liberal tricked me again derp derp ZOMGG roll eyes (sarcastic)

Arachnoidfreak
aaahahaha WOOOWWW

The governemnt is raping privacy again, not surprising with this administration.

Doesn't it occur to ANYONE in the government that it's the parent's responsibility to keep their child away from pornography, and NOT the internet's?

PVS
Originally posted by KidRock
oh noes derp derp the liberal tricked me again derp derp ZOMGG roll eyes (sarcastic)

tricked? no trick

search for yourself smile

KidRock
Originally posted by PVS
tricked? no trick

search for yourself smile

I did, twice. Thanks. big grin I dont mind though because I (unlike some angry libs.) have nothing to hide.

PVS
i doubt that

Tptmanno1
Originally posted by KidRock
I did, twice. Thanks. big grin I dont mind though because I (unlike some angry libs.) have nothing to hide.
Its also not the point.
Whatever happened to "Give me Liberty or give me death!"??
Why has it changed to "Give me Liberty, or make me seem safe..."?

PVS
its simple.

the very people calling everyone who is not a neocon "pussies" are in fact
cowards. they would rather send someone ELSE's kids off to war to die for
nothing and be stripped of all liberty for a feeling of safety.
because they have no balls. thats right. no. balls.

ElectricBugaloo
Originally posted by Tptmanno1
Its also not the point.
Whatever happened to "Give me Liberty or give me death!"??
Why has it changed to "Give me Liberty, or make me seem safe..."?

exactly. for some reason bush has convinced a bunch of people that it's patriotic to give up the rights that our country fought for.

KidRock
Originally posted by PVS
its simple.

the very people calling everyone who is not a neocon "pussies" are in fact
cowards. they would rather send someone ELSE's kids off to war to die for
nothing and be stripped of all liberty for a feeling of safety.
because they have no balls. thats right. no. balls.

Let me translate: I am mad at Bush because I am an angry stubborn democrat (like all others) and blah blah cons cons derp derp blah blah

PVS
i love how your consistant irrelivant trolling goes conveniently unnoticed.
who may i ask are you going down on for this privilege?

Darth Jello
well, no longer

toby19
I heard this, apparently every worldwide govt will have acces to everybodies search records and website histories

Darth Jello
every time something like this happens, it makes me feel like becoming a mutualist

soleran30
Originally posted by KidRock
Let me translate: I am mad at Bush because I am an angry stubborn democrat (like all others) and blah blah cons cons derp derp blah blah

so consistant with many words here. Great work for whatever you want just stop hating.

Darth Jello
I think KidRock is just bating us to launch a personal attack on him so he can ban or restrict "liberals" from the forums.

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