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who wins?


no prep.
fight takes place at the x- mansion

who is havok again?

Cyclops stronger power wise brother.

http://havok116.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/x-men_166_800.jpg

The guy in the middle

Normal 616 versions? and you should have added the Summer's third brother for kicks. :P

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Normal 616 versions? and you should have added the Summer's third brother for kicks. :P

Nah ultimate Colossus. since he's supposed to be more stronger.

Originally posted by Jose123
Nah ultimate Colossus. since he's supposed to be more stronger.

No I meant normal 616 version of Cyclops and Havok or their ultimate counterparts?

who is hte third Summers brother?

Originally posted by Jose123
Cyclops stronger power wise brother.

http://havok116.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/x-men_166_800.jpg

The guy in the middle

tripod sucks, i can't see that.... use image shack:

http://www.imageshack.us/

this site is good too:

http://www.theimagehosting.com/upload.php?statusMsg=

Havok

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9793/xmen1668002cm.th.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No I meant normal 616 version of Cyclops and Havok or their ultimate counterparts?

Normal

Originally posted by Scoobless
who is hte third Summers brother?


Gambit from X-Men: End is said to be a clone of Cyclops so you could say he is a brother, but the third Summer's brother is the villian in X-MEN: DEADLY GENESIS

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/XDEADLYG005_COV.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Gambit from X-Men: End is said to be a clone of Cyclops so you could say he is a brother, but the third Summer's brother is the villian in X-MEN: DEADLY GENESIS

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/XDEADLYG005_COV.jpg

So we still don't know who he is then. i don't count gambit.

Originally posted by Jose123
So we still don't know who he is then. i don't count gambit.

Were just learning about him now, solicts say he is indeed the third brother.

I'd say Cyke and Havok. Mostly Havok. Dude owns sheer strength.

i think snoops has a scan of havok trying his power on colossus(616) and it didnt affect colossus at all. although ultimate havok knocked ultimate colossus out. kinda wierd cuz he knocked both the scarlet witch and colossus out with the same blast. if he could take colossus out with that blast, scarlet witch should have been fried beyond recognition.

Ult. Havok took out Colossus in a recent Ult. X-Men issue while he was armoured. Ult. Havok does seem quite powerful, but i'd still say regular Havok is more so.

Cyclops blasts have shown to richochet off both versions of Colossus. Even so, the Summers take it. Havok alone could win a couple, adding Cyclops pushes them into the majority.

Ultimate Colossus takes this one because (1) Cyclops optic blast have no effect on Colossus, and Havok would be destroyed without his brother. I know Havok knocked him out, but that was bad writing if 616 Colossus can take a hit from Havok without damage, and Ultimate Colossus is stronger than 616, and 616 Havok is stronger than Ultimate than.... you get my point.

Ultimate Colossus takes this hands down

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Ultimate Colossus takes this one because (1) Cyclops optic blast have no effect on Colossus, and Havok would be destroyed without his brother. I know Havok knocked him out, but that was bad writing if 616 Colossus can take a hit from Havok without damage, and Ultimate Colossus is stronger than 616, and 616 Havok is stronger than Ultimate than.... you get my point.

Ultimate Colossus takes this hands down Well when Havok knocked Ult. Colossus out I don't think Colossus was expecting the attack so maybe he wasn't ready for it.

But a few pages before it he tore Ironmans and Black Widows armor to sh!t with one blast.

I think Ultimate Colossus armor is stronger than Ultimate Ironmans, and weve already seen what Ultimate Colossus did to Ultimate Ironman, and he also took out Thor when he had his hammer which broke Hulks ribs.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Ultimate Colossus takes this one because (1) Cyclops optic blast have no effect on Colossus, and Havok would be destroyed without his brother. I know Havok knocked him out, but that was bad writing if 616 Colossus can take a hit from Havok without damage, and Ultimate Colossus is stronger than 616, and 616 Havok is stronger than Ultimate than.... you get my point.

Ultimate Colossus takes this hands down

When was it shown that his optic blast has no effect?

Originally posted by Jose123
When was it shown that his optic blast has no effect? Cyclops blasted Colossus one time not knowing what the results would be but it attack bounced off Colossus' forehead and hit a Russian arms dealer.

I don't recall the issue though.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Cyclops blasted Colossus one time not knowing what the results would be but it attack bounced off Colossus' forehead and hit a Russian arms dealer.

I don't recall the issue though.

So he was aiming for him or was he hoping it bounced off?

Ultimate or 616 cyclops?

Ultimate, I think it was when Cyclops shot at Colossus when looking for Sinister.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Ultimate, I think it was when Cyclops shot at Colossus when looking for Sinister.

you think he can bounce this off?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast3.jpg

I know he wouldn't be damaged thats easy. Colossus took out Thor who broke Hulks ribs, and Ironman who has many weapons. Do you think Cyclops could survive these encounters without damage as Colossus did? Do you think Cyclops could defeat or damage these to? Do you think a nuke is stronger than Cyclops blast?

Originally posted by soujaboy09
I know he wouldn't be damaged thats easy. Colossus took out Thor who broke Hulks ribs, and Ironman who has many weapons. Do you think Cyclops could survive these encounters without damage as Colossus did? Do you think Cyclops could defeat or damage these to? Do you think a nuke is stronger than Cyclops blast?

a nuke? no.

The mini nuke that hit colossus? maybe


Do I believe that a blast from cyce can harm 616 colossus and Hulk? No

Ultimate thor and Hulk? Yes I do believe he can.

he wouldn't be damaged that easy. your right but it will hit and at least do something. Even if it only sends him flying into the other block. it will do at least something. Not just bounce off with no effect.

besides Ultimate Cyce without his visor seems not to be able to do the amount damage 616 can

Ultimate

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/wal_lace/Cyke20.jpg


compared to 616

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast3.jpg

How old is 616 Cyke?

Originally posted by soujaboy09
How old is 616 Cyke?
at least in his 30's.

Spider-man is around 28 and i always thought that cyclops was older then him.

How old is Ultimate Cyke?

How old is 616 Colossus?

How old is Ultimate Colossus?

Originally posted by soujaboy09
How old is Ultimate Cyke?

How old is 616 Colossus?

How old is Ultimate Colossus?

Ultimate cyce? 18-20 i guess

616 colossus?26-30 at least. he can't be older then 30.

Ultimate colossus? aren't you supposed to know that

I havnt read evrey one of the Ultimate X Men titles, and i'm not sure if it states how old he is. I'm positive that he's in his teens, but im not sure.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
I havnt read evrey one of the Ultimate X Men titles, and i'm not sure if it states how old he is. I'm positive that he's in his teens, but im not sure.

Yeah i say he is in his teens as well. didn't he say something about going to the prom with northstar?

at least thats what i have heard.

Yea he did dont no whats going to happen with that, but it was said.

Why did you want to know there ages in the first place?

To know the maturity of there powers.

Ultimate Colossus is 19 years old. I seem to remember reading that somehere.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
To know the maturity of there powers.

oh. But it doesn't really matter in this case. Ultimate colossus is younger yet stronger then 616 so who knows.

don't think cyces powers are something you mature. they just either get kept in or there released. It's not like a telepath who gets better with age and training.

bump

What do you think will happen now that theres a new writer for the aultimaate X Men?

Originally posted by soujaboy09
What do you think will happen now that theres a new writer for the aultimaate X Men?

Don't know much about the new writer except he's Robert kirkman

Here's an interview i found with his plans for Ult/ X-men

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/ultx_men/kirkman.htm