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HA1 sofar 35% of Votes, Liberals = 25 seats, Conervative = 11 seats

NDP = 5 seats PQ = 1 seat Green = 0

HA!
HA!

HA!


We are in lead over the Right Wing Bush licking Assholes! (literly)

And the LIBs just jumped to 30 seats! no, 31!



Wow, this is actially intresting.

LIB 32 seats , no 33... 35! they are just rising like that! NDP 4 seats, Conservative 11


wow.

Kick ass.

Can't wait to see what "This hour has 22 Minutes" and "Royal Canadian air farce" will say about this.

(I blame any type-os on the cat on my lap.)

lib... 40
con... 16
ndp ...16
pq... 1

Canada is the only country I know of that votes and has the results on the same day.

I will bring you guys results all threw the night.

Mostly because I have nothing to do in this shit town.

LIB=50
CON=39
NDP=12
PQ=8

LIB=57
CON=53
NDP=13
PQ=10


Ai.. they are catching up

LIB 56.. WTF!? going DOWN!?
Con 55...

shiiiiiiit

171 seats to come...


56 to 56!!!!!!

SHIT!

Conservatice at 59 lib at 56

shit shit shit....

LIB= 71
CON=81
NDP=15
PQ=23
IND=1

LOL! quoted by peterMansbridge:

"Lock the Doors, Unplug the Phones, this is the best drama that is happeneing tonight, The Conservatives are in the lead"

CON=99
LIB=84
PQ=41
NDP=20
IND=1

The hell is this?

Canadian elections.

CON=103
LIB=86
PQ=51
NDP=20
IND=1

47 seats left

Conservative minority government, I think. I don't think Liberals will win much out West. Apparently, the Conservative negative campaigns are just negative enough.

I HATE the Conservatives,

We just legallized Gay Marriage, they will take that away from us.

They are right winegd and they WILL unite Canada with the States.

I justc an't liv in the shadow of the U.S. I can't I will not, can not.

I'd rather live in the states then lvie here if you know what i mean.

CON=105
LIB=90
PQ=49
NDP=23
GRN=1
IND=1
OTH=1

WTF!? green party ACTUALLY got a seat!?


!5 seats behind, we can still beat them.....

39 seats left.

bathroom break.

CON=109
LIB=88
PQ=49
NDP=24
OTH=1
GRN=1

36 seats left

A total of 301 seats.

CON=109
LIB=89
PQ=52
NDP=22
IND=1

The Conservatives have more seats, but more people vited for the liberals.

Somebody should change the system.

CON=107
LIB=92
PQ=52
NDP=24
IND=1

GOD this is more exciting then curling...

CON=108
LIB=95
PQ=51
NDP=26
IND=1

CON = BAD

VERY VERY BAD

Think, "I just lost my boyfriend so I am going on the rebound with the first person I can jump on" BAD

Whoa, how did the Conservatives snatch seats from Quebec? That's surprising...

CON=111
LIB=96
PQ=50
NDP=25
IND=1

WE ARE WATCHING CANADA GOING DOWN INTO THE SHITS LIVE!!!!

Originally posted by crazylozer
Whoa, how did the Conservatives snatch seats from Quebec? That's surprising...

They Promised more Money for Quebec.

thus rendering a refferandum and seperation useless


YEAH, like thats going to Happpen.

CON=114
LIB=95
PQ=51
NDP=25
IND=1

Paul Martin Has Been Re-Elected in Montreal.

CON=115
LIB=97
PQ=50
NDP=24
IND=1

21 seats left.

... We Can still win this.

CON=113
LIB=99
PQ=51
NDP=25
IND=1

OH F*CK YEAH!!!

COME ON LIBERALS!!!!!

(lesser of all evils are the liberals)

CON=117
LIB=98
PQ=50
NDP=25
IND=1

Independant is a News Radio Talkshow Host In Quebec City...

I dunno, aside from the whole seperation bit, the Parti Quebecois platform seems pretty solid,

CON=116
LIB=97
PQ=50
NDP=27
IND=1

17 Seats left.

CON=118
LIB=98
PQ=51
NDP=26
IND=1

15 seats left.

CON=120
LIB=98
PQ=50
NDP=25
IND=1

14 seats left.

CON=121
LIB=100
PQ=50
NDP=27
IND=1

9 Seats.

unless we havea bush -type scandle, all is lost.

I'll bring you the updates for the final count.

CON=122
LIB=103
PQ=50
NDP=29
IND=1

Seats Left = 3

CON=123
LIB=103
PQ=50
NDP=29
IND=1

Seats Left = 2

CON=124
LIB=103
PQ=50
NDP=230
IND=1

Seats Left = 1

CON=124
LIB=102
PQ=50
NDP=31
IND=1

Shit.

UNLUCKY....

Conservatives are going to take over thw world and fake the second coming of Christ so they can end the world and rule over all the money.

When someone makes a thread and posts the first 10 posts, I think that kind of tells you something about the thread.

So, liberals lost...hmm, oh well...probably stupid americanized liberals anyways.

the liberal candidacy was tainted with scandal, so they lost.

so by default, welcome to "the assholes club" canada.

now we are truly brothers

Originally posted by PVS
the liberal candidacy was tainted with scandal, so they lost.

so by default, welcome to "the assholes club" canada.

now we are truly brothers
I mean conservatives in general are not bad...question is are those Neo-Conservative Religious nuts..or are they the decent kind?

Wow kinda hard to believe a conservative won in Canada...........interesting.

As a Canadian I am thrilled by the choice of Stephen Harper as Canada's new Prime Minister. After 12 years of the former corruption plagued Liberal government, I welcome the change to Mr. Harper's Conservative party.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41249000/jpg/_41249260_ap_sharper203.jpg

Re: Liberals Are In Lead

liberals are under my bed. fear

Originally posted by Bardock42
So, liberals lost...hmm, oh well...probably stupid americanized liberals anyways.

You got that wrong, The Conservatives are the Americanized ones.

Seeing as Words Can Not Really get Accross, I will now paint the Picture of what is:

Stephan Harper = SMART Dubbaya.

Originally posted by Koala MeatPie
You got that wrong, The Conservatives are the Americanized ones.
Both are americanized I am sure....both are not votable....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Both are americanized I am sure....both are not votable....
What exactly do you consider americanized liberals?

Aren't liberals always in the lead in Canada?

Originally posted by Eis
What exactly do you consider americanized liberals?

Socialists in disguise.

They are Not Half as "Americanized" as the Conservatives, As I said Above:

Stephan Harper = SMART Dubbaya

He Even said, and was quoted "Under my reign, Canada is going to change face"

He always wanted to unit the Yanks and the Canuks.

He Talked about going back on gay Marriage.

Hell, He makes me want to stop studying designa nd go into pollitics just make things right.

No taking over the world bullshit.

I am talking aboot the definition of "liberal" and "conservative" ...te american version is different from teh european one....and america doesn't mean the US.

Liberal , For Us, Means "Equal Rights For All"

Which always made me wonder why the U.S. hates Liberals soo much.

Originally posted by Koala MeatPie
Liberal , For Us, Means "Equal Rights For All"

That#S not the only thing though....

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am talking aboot the definition of "liberal" and "conservative" ...te american version is different from teh european one....and america doesn't mean the US.
Do you know a lot about south american liberalism?

Originally posted by Bardock42
That#S not the only thing though....

Well of course not.

Originally posted by Eis
Do you know a lot about south american liberalism?
Of course not....Let me rephrase then...North- American liberalis without Mexico......(there's liberalism in south america...I thought there was only communism)

Originally posted by Koala MeatPie
Well of course not.
Yeah.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Of course not....Let me rephrase then...North- American liberalis without Mexico......(there's liberalism in south america...I thought there was only communism)


Yeah.
*******
I'm south american and we have political parties... countries like Bolivia and el salvador might not but not all south america's like that.

Wait, forget that. You're absolutely right, there's only communism/socialism and fascism/conservatism.
And no unfortunally I'm not kidding.

Bardock is referring to the fact that the term 'Liberal' in European politics generally refers to economics, not freedom of action.

Hence the Conservative party here under Thatcher was considered very liberal due to its commitment to Free Trade. I very much doubt any American spectator would have called it Liberal.

Hence, by using the American definition, the Canadian Liberal party is in fact using a far more Americanised term than the Conservatives, who are using old European terminology.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Bardock is referring to the fact that the term 'Liberal' in European politics generally refers to economics, not freedom of action.

Hence the Conservative party here under Thatcher was considered very liberal due to its commitment to Free Trade. I very much doubt any American spectator would have called it Liberal.

Hence, by using the American definition, the Canadian Liberal party is in fact using a far more Americanised term than the Conservatives, who are using old European terminology.

Yes, thanks for clarifying that...

Originally posted by Eis
*******
I'm south american and we have political parties... countries like Bolivia and el salvador might not but not all south america's like that.

Wait, forget that. You're absolutely right, there's only communism/socialism and fascism/conservatism.
And no unfortunally I'm not kidding.

I am very, very sorry for you....no i am not....I don't even care....Commie.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, thanks for clarifying that...



I am very, very sorry for you....no i am not....I don't even care....Commie.
Ah well, I don't live there and my family's not from there so, no need to feel sorry for me anyway.

PS: Heil Mao Tse Tung!

Originally posted by Eis
Ah well, I don't live there and my family's not from there so, no need to feel sorry for me anyway.

PS: Heil Mao Tse Tung!
that'S jsut not a cool thing to say...the guy is hmm one of the TOP three Mass Murders of all time....1 and 2 are Jesus and Michael Myers.

Originally posted by Bardock42
that'S jsut not a cool thing to say...the guy is hmm one of the TOP three Mass Murders of all time....1 and 2 are Jesus and Michael Myers.
Well you called me a commie! schmoll
-edit-

The conservative govt is very weak.

The Liberals are a powerhouse, after corruption scandles all over the news right in every faces, having the whole media going aginst them, an police investigation in the middle of the election and a super strong Harper campaign the Liberals still got over 100 seats. If they elect a new leader they will take the next election easily.

Originally posted by Eis
Well you called me a commie! schmoll
How very interesting Hitler's not in the list *cough*neonazi*cough*

Well of course he isn't...in the real list he's only nuimber three I believe....

1. Mao
2. Stalin
3. Hitler

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well of course he isn't...in the real list he's only nuimber three I believe....

1. Mao
2. Stalin
3. Hitler
No Jesus?

Originally posted by Eis
No Jesus?

Well, that's the List of the 20th century murderers only.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, that's the List of the 20th century murderers only.

But is the last list really accurate? I always thought Hitler had killed more people than Stalin.

I think the liberals plan is to bring back trudeau from thier ice chamber in the basment of thier HQ.

In reality the liberals need a Trudeau style person to lead thier party. then they wuld easily win.

IF your wondering who Trudeau he is the most known Prime Minister in Canadian history. Liked by many hated by others, he changed canada as a whole. In a better way or worse way is your opinion. I hope Harper is not like the Conservative Brian Mulroney. That guy is the most hated PM in history. He almost ruined the country.

Originally posted by manny321
(...)

If your wondering who Trudeau he is the most known Prime Minister in Canadian history.

(...)


It's was all about the Cape and Twirls... (he wore a Cape and Twirled before an after public speeches... I MET HIM ON THE STREET IN MONTREAL! Shook his hand) (then he died years later)


Martin's thoughts: "So how does A Vote Of No Confidence Work again?"

i think the next liberal leader will be from Toronto because Toronto is now the Liberal stronghold. About 19 of the 22 seats in Toronto went liberal (the other three were to a more left wing party). The liberals also won 16 seats right outside Toronto (york, peel region).

Originally posted by manny321
The conservative govt is very weak.

The Liberals are a powerhouse, after corruption scandles all over the news right in every faces, having the whole media going aginst them, an police investigation in the middle of the election and a super strong Harper campaign the Liberals still got over 100 seats. If they elect a new leader they will take the next election easily.

Agreed, The Conservatives will not be in the house for too long. The Liberals are a much stronger party. Plus I dislike Harper, he bugs me for some reason.

At any rate with 100-105 seats in the house (I never did see the final number. Last I saw it was at 104) the Liberals hold a great deal of power still. The Tories will be hard pressed to keep everyone on their side considering they can be defeated by the liberals + 25 or so more seats. (Though the Grits will need a few votes from the Bloc ) to do it last I saw. If the NPD decided they wanted to defeat the Tories with the Liberals.

I'll admit I was annoyed at the final, but I have respect for the democratic process, and what people want they get. (though the Liberals still got more of the popular vote. Proportional Representation anyone? lol ) anyways, I voted Liberal, so i was kinda peeved. But it wont be long until we see Liberal Red back ruling the house IMO. If the Libs can get their act together.

Hahah, in germany the Right wing Nationalistic party is called NPD....funny.....or is it.

That is funny considering our NDP would be completely opposite

Liberal, Labour both two sides of the same crappy coin.

Sorry, can I see figures indicating the Liberals got the popular vote? My research shows otherwise, that the Conservatives got a clear vote win. I cannot help thinking people are trying to perpetuate a lie here.

Besides which, it doesn't mater- like most Western countries, yours is a represenative democracy; proportional states don't really work as well.

I am not at all convinced that the Conservatives are weak. There have been too many elections in the last decade for their power to be reasonably challenged now they have won a mandate. Minority Government is never strong, but then that seems to be becoming the norm in Canada.

And no matter what you might want to say about Liberal strength, they have been defeated by a power block that only 12 years ago was annihilated. That is dropping the ball.

Originally posted by Koala MeatPie
CON=124
LIB=102
PQ=50
NDP=31
IND=1

Shit.
Ha. Owned.

Not that I really give a damn; it's Canadian elections...sheesh.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Sorry, can I see figures indicating the Liberals got the popular vote? My research shows otherwise, that the Conservatives got a clear vote win. I cannot help thinking people are trying to perpetuate a lie here.

Besides which, it doesn't mater- like most Western countries, yours is a represenative democracy; proportional states don't really work as well.

I am not at all convinced that the Conservatives are weak. There have been too many elections in the last decade for their power to be reasonably challenged now they have won a mandate. Minority Government is never strong, but then that seems to be becoming the norm in Canada.

And no matter what you might want to say about Liberal strength, they have been defeated by a power block that only 12 years ago was annihilated. That is dropping the ball.

Well, but they don't have a majority....I am not familiar with the canadian system..but if "PQ" and "NDP" prefer Liberals over conservatives I don't see how conservatives can form a government.

The Liberals had a minority government since the last election already. The Canadian system allows it. They'll just have to be choosy about what gets on the book.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The Liberals had a minority government since the last election already. The Canadian system allows it. They'll just have to be choosy about what gets on the book.

Yeah but minority governments need to be accepted, no? I mean if there are 50 Left wing liberals 100 Moderate Liberals and 50 more right wing liberals and then there are 150 Conservatives, the conservatives would have the biggest party but teh 200 others might decide that they work together....well that's how it works here anyways.

All I can say is that minortity Government has been shown to work in Canada. Coalition has been rare.

It's not possible to run with a hung parliament in the UK but it happens in Canada. It's valid, and the Covservatives will govern.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
All I can say is that minortity Government has been shown to work in Canada. Coalition has been rare.

It's not possible to run with a hung parliament in the UK but it happens in Canada. It's valid, and the Covservatives will govern.

But is it also valid when there is a majority coalition?

Who in the heck would try and rule with a minority coalition?

Like I said, coalition is very rare in Canada- it's not needed. It has happened once in its entire history; this will be the ninth minority Government.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Who in the heck would try and rule with a minority coalition?

Like I said, coalition is very rare in Canada- it's not needed.

Well obviously that would be nonsense....before we continue that talk can someone tell me where PQ in teh political spectrum is at?

Added an extra comment to that post.

That always seems hard to tell. other than being more or less seperatist, they are left of the Conservatives- but certainly no great friends of the Liberals.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Added an extra comment to that post.

That always seems hard to tell. other than being more or less seperatist, they are left of the Conservatives- but certainly no great friends of the Liberals.
Alright, thanks....anyways, all I am saying is that just because minority Governments are usual in Canada it doesn't mean that it needs to be that way. And might it not be hard for tjhe conservatives to find support when they are that far off?

Hard, yes, but everyone is predicting the doom of this Givernment and I am really not so sure. I don't think they are going to stand for three elections within five years, and so I think the Conservatives are here to stay for a little while. They've recovered incredibly in a decade, and I think they'll hold.

well the liberals are not going to do anything as they will pick a new leader. This will be the biggest threat to the conservatives. Liberals usally rally around a new leader.

Majority GoVt are not to hard t get. If the liberals pick a strong leader and if the conservatives do something unpopular the liberals could win easily. Ontario is very volatile and its a province known to go liberal easily. IN the 90d's liberals won over 100 seats in Ontario in 1993, 1997 and 2000.

Originally posted by manny321
Majority GoVt are not to hard t get. If the liberals pick a strong leader and if the conservatives do something unpopular the liberals could win easily. Ontario is very volatile and its a province known to go liberal easily. IN the 90d's liberals won over 100 seats in Ontario in 1993, 1997 and 2000.

wtf...how often do you vote

If its majority its about every 3-4 years.

If its minority its almost any time. We have had three elections since 2000. One in 2000 that lead to a liberal majority. Then in Feb 2004 the big scandal broke and there was an election in june 2004. The liberals won a minority. Then in jan this month we had an election because the govt was voted out in a vote of no confidence in Nov 2005.

Our govt is not the big stable powerhouse like the US president, but if a PM wins a majority he is almost a dictator.

That was part of my point, though. They are not going to keep having elections. The Conservatives have a good chance of making this stick.

I disagree. There will more then likely be another federal election in two years or so.

And last I heard the Liberals did win the popular vote, though not by a huge margin. It was around 40%- Liberals and 35%- Conservatives, give or take.

The Liberals still "own" Toronto and a good deal of central Ontario. The Conservatives are going to have to work hard to convince the major city(s) that they are indeed capable of governing. If they cannot do that then the GTA- Greater Toronto Area will shift fully in support of the Liberals. Manny already stated it. the GTA is notorious for shifting to Liberal on a whim. And if the Liberals can win over the whole of the GTA (which they will if the Tories screw up) Then all they need to do is concentrate their efforts on Quebec to win as many seats there as they can muster. (Which they did not do this Election) If they can do this then the Liberals will be back in power in the next 2-3 years.

But it all really depends on what Mr. Harper and his Conservatives do in office.

I rather think you heard wrong. Popular vote share from recorded results is 36.3% Conservative, 30.2% Liberal.

Huh, Seems your right Ush. Last I heard on CBC (right after the election) was that the Liberals still had more of the popular vote. Seems they jumped the gun a little.

I find it very interesting that the Tories won more of the popular vote across Canada. Very interesting indeed. I have not had time to go over the results in detail myself since the election.

This is a good topic for discussion.

Ahh now that I'm looking at the results it was 39%- Lib and 35%- Cons. In Ontario only. CBC failed to mention it was just Ontario's numbers when they were talking about the % vote. Typical.

Yes the Conservative party won the popular vote
with 36%,
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6442/224ry.jpg

((The_Anomaly)) your results are votes in ontario.

Its going to be wierd feeling for Toronto. They were the center of the govt since 1993 and now they don't even have one person in the tory camp. I doubt Toronto will any time in the near future go conservative. Both Brian mulroney and Mike Harris have ruined Harper's chance. The only threat there is the NDP. Also the liberals have huge support in the cities of Brampton and mississuga and the cities right above Toronto. Those liberals Mps won by huge margins. I literally live in there Liberal heartland in Brampton. The MP is Gurbax Malhi an south asian man and has been going here from since 1993. For harper to get a majority he has to win this area and it looks impossibile. Malhi has won by landslides each time and won by his largest margin yet.

Also if Ontraio is not the center of the govt its goin Liberal.

Yes I know. Thats why I said they are "Ontario only"...lol

And yes. The Conservatives will never break that barrier. I was born in Brampton, my whole family lives there. (With the exception of my immediate family) And to say its a "Liberal Stronghold" is putting it lightly.

100th Post.

Thank you for Clarifying the Difference btw American and Eurpoean liberals.... Ush.

I was speaking more in Actions.