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setting is in the jedi library in coruscant
i say kyle katarn wins

Yea I agree.Obi-wan is no match for the powers dark side of the force and katarn has the advantage of having the powers of both.

I do believe you are right... besides... Obi-Wan isn't that great, as I have seen proven time and time again, so I'm not going to go into the long list of reasons...

umm...he's only been beaten twice, he's pretty good. I think he can take Katarn.

oh yea... just cuz I say so, it must be wrong... I see... well lets revew obi-wan's exploits shall we?
1 he beats Maul by a stroke of luck in that Maul is being cocky
2 he beats Grievous by that his form is practicaly built to defeat him
3 he beats Anikin because Anikin is being angry and cocky
need I say more? If not for his going after Duku in the battle on Geonosis and Anikin protecting his a** in the arena, he would probly be dead...

Umm...no. Because he would actully win, due to a massive amount of experience in comparison to Katarn.

ya and kenobi is very intelligent and he is a master of form 3 so he's pretty much really hard to hit. i don't think that katarn will be able to defeat him in combat.

I hate it when people overestimate NJO characters.

Katarn had, what...ten years of training? At the time of JK, Obi-Wan would kill him. At the time of JO, he might have a bit more trouble, but would still kill him.

Then again, Valley of the Jedi zaps Kyle Katarn into...Super Katarn!

I'm going with Obi-Wan. His skill may not match RotS Anakin, but he's still extremely powerful in the arts of saber combat. Here's a reply for your first standpoints, Magnevus.

1. There's no such thing as luck. Maul was just being sloppy because he thought a padawan had no chance againt him.
2. Well, if Obi-Wan's style was "built" to defeat Grievous, he still defeated Grievous with his mastery of that form. And besides, he killed Grievous with a blaster remember?
3. Anakin was stronger than Obi-Wan and had the potential to beat him. He just made a stupid move.

TWo words -"Force lightning" and katarn wins.YEs anakin did have potential but obi-wan had the obvious advantage since skywalker was his padwan and he knew his moves well.Knowing your opponents moves no matter how powerful he is a important aspect of gaining a key victory

Originally posted by Darth Magnevus
oh yea... just cuz I say so, it must be wrong... I see... well lets revew obi-wan's exploits shall we?
1 he beats Maul by a stroke of luck in that Maul is being cocky
2 he beats Grievous by that his form is practicaly built to defeat him
3 he beats Anikin because Anikin is being angry and cocky
need I say more? If not for his going after Duku in the battle on Geonosis and Anikin protecting his a** in the arena, he would probly be dead...

1. He was a inexperienced padawan, now he is one of the best jedi masters in the order and would utterly waste Maul.
2. This is irrelevant. He defeated him didn't he? Anyway, he would pwn him even without that style, one force push made Grievous drop all his lightsabers and run away.
3. No, he defeated Anakin because he was a better duellist. Sure he woulden't have won at that moment if Anakin didn't jump, but he was the one that made Anakin jump. Anakin never broke through Obi-Wan's defence more than he broke through his, I never saw Anakin having an easier time than Obi-Wan.

If not for Desann sparing his life in the beginning of JO, or Mara Jade saving him when he was captured Kyle would probably be dead.

Kyle is very good though, he is able to defeat a person who can stand up to Luke which is pretty impressive. And that is with only some days of re-traning. If this is NJO Kyle he was a grand master of saber combat, and a good force user who used many light side and dark side powers. If this is NJO Kyle I go with him. If this is JA or JO Kyle I go with Obi-Wan.

and i hate when people overestimate movie characters

Originally posted by vpokdekjyafmidp
and i hate when people overestimate movie characters

If you think somebody is overestimating a movie character here then please say why instead of just saying that you hate it.

Personally I have no idea who would win, I have never cared for anything post ROTJ.

well everyones like ooh aniken can beat up everyone that ever existed ooh aniken i love youu aniken was the best jedi ever ooh

like that

i saw it wen i was browsing thru the aniken vs. plo koon thread

Originally posted by vpokdekjyafmidp
well everyones like ooh aniken can beat up everyone that ever existed ooh aniken i love youu aniken was the best jedi ever ooh

like that
Um...that would explain why Obi-Wan beat him, right?

Originally posted by LordMArkaRAgnos
TWo words -"Force lightning" and katarn wins.YEs anakin did have potential but obi-wan had the obvious advantage since skywalker was his padwan and he knew his moves well.Knowing your opponents moves no matter how powerful he is a important aspect of gaining a key victory
This means...What? That Obi-wan didn't defeat maul, grievous, or Anakin? The whole force-lightning would look like what Obi-Wan did when Dooku tried to use it on him, mybe more, cause we didn't see him doing in in ROTS.

If this is NJO Katarn, he wins. DN, he wins for sure. Any time period before NJO he loses.

Depends wat NJO book he is from. unfortuneatley, the thread starter has yet to speicify..

Originally posted by DE Calvin
Depends wat NJO book he is from. unfortuneatley, the thread starter has yet to speicify..

The only one he is mentioned in is TUF.

pwnt!

Originally posted by vpokdekjyafmidp
well everyones like ooh aniken can beat up everyone that ever existed ooh aniken i love youu aniken was the best jedi ever ooh

like that

If you haven't noticed Anakin is very disliked here, and no one has said anything about him defeating every one. The Plo Koon thread was silly because people said Plo would win, not that people said that Anakin would win.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
The only one he is mentioned in is TUF.
I'm saying about time and strength. The later, the more powerful he would be.

What like Obiwan? he became REAL powerful by episode iv........ not

so you are saying from AOTC to ROTS, he didn't become more powerful, and don't forget from ROTS to ANH, he wasn't training or getting exp.

Originally posted by DE Calvin
so you are saying from AOTC to ROTS, he didn't become more powerful.
how did you establish that i said that?
I was merely pointing out that the older someone gets, doesn't necessarily mean there going to get more powerful!

Hey u just got me thinking (Look outblowup) what evidence is there that obi did become more powerful in rots than he was in aotc! what made him look weak in 2 was he got pwnd by dooku!in rots he seemed to do worse

HAHAHA. HE SPENT HOW MANY YEARS IN THE OUTER RIM? He got promoted to be on the council. You said that exp. doesn't make you stronger.

"You said that exp. doesn't make you stronger."

um where did i say that?

YOU DENIED HE GOT MORE POWERFUL FORM EP. 2 TO EP. 3.

Umm.... Obi-Wan got a whole lot stronger in RotS... Do you think that AotC Obi-Wan could beat Grievous?

Oh, and he said "he wasn't training or getting exp" not "You said that exp doesn't make you stronger."

Originally posted by DE Calvin
YOU DENIED HE GOT MORE POWERFUL FORM EP. 2 TO EP. 3.

Sigh..once again. um where did i say that?

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
what evidence is there that obi did become more powerful in rots than he was in aotc! what made him look weak in 2 was he got pwnd by dooku!in rots he seemed to do worse
THERE.

Originally posted by DE Calvin
I'm saying about time and strength. The later, the more powerful he would be.

Originally posted by DE Calvin
THERE.


the smiley is supposed to mean i was saying that jokingly!

no. you put that there, cause you think you got me.

whatever man, ur so full of yourself!

i just think it's funny how obiwan gets thrown around like a rag doll, even after becoming more powerful!

Pretty easy. In AOTC Dooku was toying, in ROTS he wanted to take out Kenobi.

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
the smiley is supposed to mean i was saying that jokingly!

No, when you put that smilie there, you were laughing at yourself. That smilie means "lol"

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
whatever man, ur so full of yourself!

i just think it's funny how obiwan gets thrown around like a rag doll, even after becoming more powerful!
I think its funny how you get thrown around like a ragdoll in every thread you post in.

im sorry if u interpreted my post in the wrong way guys (i'm hardly a genius of grammar) but I AGREE WITH YOU! he DID become more powerful obviously, i was , as i've said before, merely stating that , the older does not necessarily =more powerful

Well that could be wrong TOO, Take Yoda as an example.

No one said anything about being older! I mean, he is older, but he trained a lot and got more experience...

read the preious page, faroth, Ogami said alot about age.

does the word necessarily mean anything to you you poor fool ???

what a noob fanboy

Me, or Calvin? Because neither of us really are...

How is anybody in this entire thread being a fanboy?

QUOTE=5905537]Originally posted by DE Calvin
read the preious page, faroth, Ogami said alot about age.

NO YOU stated that age stuff!!!!

u said : I'm saying about time and strength. The later, the more powerful he would be

ok, here is WHY!!!!
He was in NJO, and gaining more exp. everyday. god damn.

What does Kyle Katarn actually appear in.

The video games, and some books I believe...

The Jedi Knight games, some books, mostly NJO I think. (If not only).

TUF, and he doesn't just dies after that, even thought he isn't mentioned after that, doesn't mean he wasnt't still a jedi, and didn't gain more exp.

what the **** are you saying???

He appeared in The Unifying Force...you would know that if you knew how to read.

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
what the **** are you saying???

Why are you here? You don't know anything and you're obnoxious. Shouldn't you be in the SS thread giggling with your crew about some loser's website?

They probably don't like him in there, either.

i feel a song coming on..

to calvin:

"oh God oh God your so fantastic
thanks to aristorkrat your a sexual spastic"

Sweet spelling, dude!!!

That wasn't funny, Ogami. And thaks isn't a word, dumb ass. Not in English, anyways...

and his name is Aristokrat, not aristorkrat

i'm sorry fanboys i'll leave you to it!

http://chosenofmystra.net/gabby/noob.jpg

Pwnt.

ROFLMFAO!!

you know that was an insult directed towards you right? Or is your brain to dense to comprehend?

Forget it Calvin, he's a dumb ass.

I don't think he has a brain. The height of his intellect is using smilies and being an *******.

He has a brain, it was cloned from SuperShadow's.

Originally posted by Faroth
Forget it Calvin, he's a dumb ass.
*points to popped blood vessel in head* It's too late for that now..

pwnt!!

F***tard, that was directed toward you too.

Originally posted by Faroth
He has a brain, it was cloned from SuperShadow's.
hahahaha.
He laughs when he gets PWNT (just like SS's).

Exactly.

lughs !!

PWNT

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
pwnt!!
Pwnt.

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
lughs !!

PWNT

I don't think someone who says "ur" and "im" has any reason to giggle over typos.

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
lughs !!

PWNT
STFU! You still wouldn't understand it if it was spelled right.

This thread's going to be closed soon.... all it is now is a place to blast Ogami up. I'm leaving this thread....

lol.