Is The Mafia an RP?

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Grand Moff Gav
The adoping of roles and threir adapting to a story prove that it is!

Pandemoniac
Sure it is. Just some kiddos pretending to be bad, while recognising the fact it's just a role-play. The idea itself can lead to amusing plot-twists and creative storytelling, as long as people remember it's just an RP.

Grand Moff Gav
Thank You!

Vinny Valentine
Yes it is, Definitely.

Grand Moff Gav
I know!

Ushgarak
It doesn't fall under the idea of an RP as I see it. It's just a spontaneous themed social thread. If we closed threads on that basis, queeq's would go, the Gentleman's Club would never have been allowed, and so on.

If it becomes more game than social then it will go, but I doubt it.

Grand Moff Gav
Hmm I see your point....

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It doesn't fall under the idea of an RP as I see it. It's just a spontaneous themed social thread. If we closed threads on that basis, queeq's would go, the Gentleman's Club would never have been allowed, and so on.

If it becomes more game than social then it will go, but I doubt it.

If people are taking under the names of "Frankie Figgs" and such that would classify it as a RP, the gentlemans club wasn't like that.

KENobi™
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It doesn't fall under the idea of an RP as I see it. It's just a spontaneous themed social thread. If we closed threads on that basis, queeq's would go, the Gentleman's Club would never have been allowed, and so on.

If it becomes more game than social then it will go, but I doubt it.

But isn't that the basis of Unhosted RP's? Just running around "in character".

Ushgarak
Even in Unhosted, there's much more 'game' involved than in threads like that.

'In character' is highly questionable there too, because the character seems to be... themselves, just in Mafia style.

Grand Moff Gav
I think Ken wins this one... He's right!

Vinny Valentine
I still think it should be moved, it doesn't fit here.

Grand Moff Gav
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Even in Unhosted, there's much more 'game' involved than in threads like that.

'In character' is highly questionable there too, because the character seems to be... themselves, just in Mafia style.

In the Senate my character was myself just in Imperial Force Using Form...

Ushgarak
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
If people are taking under the names of "Frankie Figgs" and such that would classify it as a RP, the gentlemans club wasn't like that.

Oh, because someone adopting a name like that is the be-all and end-all if what is an RP or not? Lord no. As I remember it, half of queeq's bars were much more RP-like than that thread, and people would spend time doing rp-like things all the time. Doesn;t make the thread an RP.

Ushgarak
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
In the Senate my character was myself just in Imperial Force Using Form...

Well, when I looked in that theead, in my judgment it had become much much much more like an Unhosted RP. Furthermore, there was quite a lot of buzz from people involved who actively wanted it to be a proper RP, and had made it so, away from being a social thread. There was even a movement to re-start it in Unhosted, but not enough people wanted to leave the OTF. (shrugs) There you go.

KENobi™
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Even in Unhosted, there's much more 'game' involved than in threads like that.

'In character' is highly questionable there too, because the character seems to be... themselves, just in Mafia style.

They are still playing a role. erm

Maybe a new sub-forum for the Unhosted RP's for Role Play's without the Game?

Grand Moff Gav
Yes it does...difference is Queeqs bars were acceptd by the majority as a social thread. Mafia Doesn't do that!

Vinny Valentine

Grand Moff Gav
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well, when I looked in that theead, in my judgment it had become much much much more like an Unhosted RP. Furthermore, there was quite a lot of buzz from people involved who actively wanted it to be a proper RP, and had made it so, away from being a social thread. There was even a movement to re-start it in Unhosted, but not enough people wanted to leave the OTF. (shrugs) There you go.

Oh no-one told me that there was a move to..move it to the URp... a well!

Ushgarak

Grand Moff Gav
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It's a gaming area! There's no way I am having non-games in there.

Sorry, but frankly I'm the expert here, and I am outright saying these things do not qualify as RPs in my opinion. Silly things like that theead belong in the OTF and will stay here.

Ah well... I think this has dissolved into a matter of personal pride than anything else!

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It's a gaming area! There's no way I am having non-games in there.

Sorry, but frankly I'm the expert here, and I am outright saying these things do not qualify as RPs in my opinion. Silly things like that theead belong in the OTF and will stay here.

But they are ROLEPLAYING being in the MAFIA. It fits fine.

KENobi™
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It's a gaming area! There's no way I am having non-games in there.

Sorry, but frankly I'm the expert here, and I am outright saying these things do not qualify as RPs in my opinion. Silly things like that theead belong in the OTF and will stay here.

*looks at the Category*

Sorry, but it says Role Playing, not Role Playing Games.

Grand Moff Gav
It seems most people outside the mafia want the thread closed...close it!

Vinny Valentine

Pandemoniac
This it not about grounds to close threads on, it's about grounds that keep threads like the one discussed alive rightfully. Now the Mob thing is in my opinion a funny parody on organised crime voted through humorist posts by sarcastic members here, and of course, a few of those that take it a tad to serious (but that will only lead to more entertaining confrontations).
Quite harmless as long as the contestants see it as a sarcastic game, and even more entertaining when one of them starts taking it serious.

Grand Moff Gav
Yes...NOW!



Ush is a good mod and the RP area is his domain though it's his decison!

Ushgarak
And the description of Unhosted clearly says 'games', and the describing threads inside clearly say 'games', and thanks, but I'll decide what the content inside my areas is, seeing as I built them. I think I better know what belongs there than you.

That is not a Mafia RP. It's a bunch of people horsing around in the OTF posting weird sutff in mafia style. Not the same thing by a long long way.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Ushgarak
And the description of Unhosted clearly says 'games', and the describing threads inside clearly say 'games', and thanks, but I'll decide what the content inside my areas is, seeing as I built them. I think I better know what belongs there than you.

That is not a Mafia RP. It's a bunch of people horsing around in the OTF posting weird sutff in mafia style. Not the same thing by a long long way.

How long HAVE you rped? erm

Grand Moff Gav
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
How long HAVE you rped? erm

lets not bash anyone please!

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
lets not bash anyone please!

Its not bashing, Simple question. I don't mean any dis-respect.

KENobi™
Originally posted by Ushgarak
And the description of Unhosted clearly says 'games', and the describing threads inside clearly say 'games', and thanks, but I'll decide what the content inside my areas is, seeing as I built them. I think I better know what belongs there than you.

That is not a Mafia RP. It's a bunch of people horsing around in the OTF posting weird sutff in mafia style. Not the same thing by a long long way.

Then how about an OTF Sub-Forum for OTF RP's?

I'm tired of seeing them in the OTF because the members of said threads get cocky, post mainly in those threads, and the rest of the OTF is left with few posts and Forum Games (which in themselves are repetitive and boring as well).

Vinny Valentine

Pandemoniac
Alike any annoying aspect of this world, they thrive on attention. Outsmart them in their own game or ignore them to get rid of 'em

KENobi™
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
How long HAVE you rped? erm

Ages. stick out tongue Dude, he's been the Gamemaster of the RP forums since before I started at KMC and I can guarantee he's been RP'ing in real life even longer.

Grand Moff Gav

KENobi™
Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Alike any annoying aspect of this world, they thrive on attention. Outsmart them in their own game or ignore them to get rid of 'em

I would gladly ignore them if Raz would bring back the Ignore Threads feature.

Ushgarak
Well, if you want to ask for an OTF subthread, feel free to do so in the N&Q area. But I really don't see them as being much else than an extension of social threads, so that will be a tough sell.

There are a few points that the Mafia thread went more RP like, but on that basis I'd probably end up closing half the OTF. If it becomes decidedly and protractedly RP like, I will close it. I think it's more likely to get closed for encouraging bashing first, though.

Vinny Valentine

Grand Moff Gav

Ushgarak
The answer is, since considerably before you were born, VV.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Ushgarak
The answer is, since considerably before you were born, VV.

How old ARE you?!

*checks profile*

KENobi™
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
But they would still be there and drain the OTF!

At least I wouldn't have to see em. stick out tongue

Vinny Valentine
Holy Crap.
no expression

Ush is like 13 years older then me laughing out loud

Damn.

Grand Moff Gav
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Holy Crap.
no expression

Ush is like 13 years older then me laughing out loud

Damn.

Don't mess he's a veteran of RPing.

KENobi™
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Holy Crap.
no expression

Ush is like 13 years older then me laughing out loud

Damn.

You didn't know that? laughing

Vinny Valentine

KENobi™
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
My friend Sye could RP circles around him though. No offence Ush, shes amazing.



no I feel dum stick out tongue

*dumb big grin

Vinny Valentine

Ushgarak
Frankly I doubt it.

Grand Moff Gav
laughing out loud

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Frankly I doubt it.

I don't. She is amazing, in every way of writing.

Pandemoniac

Grand Moff Gav
hmmmm

BackFire
Since when is RPing a contest of some kind?

Also, as Ush said, no, the Mafia thread, while having some similarities with RP games, doesn't qualify as an RP to be in the RP area. It's to silly, has no rules, and is just people screwing around. It's an off topic thread and such belings in the Off topic forum.

Ushgarak
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
I don't. She is amazing, in every way of writing.

For a start, there's more to RPing than writing.

Second, I very much doubt you actually have any good idea about my RPing at all.

Thirdly... frankly I think you are too young to make a good judgment.

Grand Moff Gav
Since VinnyV and Ush made it! Pride!

KENobi™
Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Neglecting threads or posts is within your own capability. Just don't visit and/or read the crap in here that does not suit your interest.
Life is way to short to go spending time bothering about the dumb and irrelevant opinions some people post, while you should be spending time with those in line with your way of thinking.

It's not about that. I can look over the threads, but when these threads I never go into bury all of the unique/new threads it becomes irksome to find them. If I can just have those threads removed from my view it becomes easier.

Originally posted by BackFire
Since when is RPing a contest of some kind?

Also, as Ush said, no, the Mafia thread, while having some similarities with RP games, doesn't qualify as an RP to be in the RP area. It's to silly, has no rules, and is just people screwing around. It's an off topic thread and such belings in the Off topic forum.

Since always. big grin

Grand Moff Gav
Originally posted by Ushgarak
For a start, there's more to RPing than writing.

Second, I very much doubt you actually have any good idea about my RPing at all.

Thirdly... frankly I think you are too young to make a good judgment.

laughing out loud Why are you not par of the Inquisition then?

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Ushgarak
For a start, there's more to RPing than writing.

Second, I very much doubt you actually have any good idea about my RPing at all.

Thirdly... frankly I think you are too young to make a good judgment.

I am not to young to have a say. And Like I said, If I got her to come here she would be amazing. Rping takes knowledge, Language and power (as in makes a person somewhat feel it) She defiantly can do it all.

Ushgarak
... I have no idea what that sentence actually means.

Nevermind. I'm secure enough about my RPing, and I have a record to show for it. I think we;ve dealt with this subject now.

Pandemoniac
It never was or will be a contest, it is something that could be given attention to and lived in to. On the other side of the dime, it is more easily to be ignored instead of being negatively captivated by it.

Bloigen
It's a spinoff of the Yakuza and Hood threads, thats spamming!

WOO! I made the Hood thread.

Bloigen
Originally posted by Bloigen
It's a spinoff of the Yakuza and Hood threads, thats spamming!

WOO! I made the Hood thread.

That's nothing to be proud of.

BackFire
You guys may be good at RPing, but I'm totally unbeatable at watching and collecting porn.

Bloigen
Damnnit.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Ushgarak
... I have no idea what that sentence actually means.

Nevermind. I'm secure enough about my RPing, and I have a record to show for it. I think we;ve dealt with this subject now.

So am I so lets just end this argument. I have proof too wink

Anyhow, this doesn't matter.

Grand Moff Gav
Indeed. We can't change your mind...feel free to close if you feel no more debate can be drained from the topic of RP's in the OTF....which you choose to ignore....

KENobi™
Originally posted by BackFire
You guys may be good at RPing, but I'm totally unbeatable at watching and collecting porn.

I challenge you to a duel.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by BackFire
You guys may be good at RPing, but I'm totally unbeatable at watching and collecting porn.

Okay, how do I save that Into my Profile to make it a Quote. Priceless laughing out loud

Pandemoniac
Originally posted by BackFire
You guys may be good at RPing, but I'm totally unbeatable at watching and collecting porn.

A respectable talent, ol' stiffy

Grand Moff Gav

BackFire

Grand Moff Gav
This has decended into typcal OTFness please close!

KENobi™
Originally posted by BackFire
I don't do duels, I don't like embarassing people with my unflinching power of knowing when, how and in what order to watchin pornography and when to turn it off/switch movies.

I have mixtapes of just sex scenes, no acting. Edited together to make it seem as one big orgy. Only the most beautiful women and few men. Mostly lesbian scenes. no expression

BackFire
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
This has decended into typcal OTFness please close!

No, it's in the otf, why should it be closed for descending into "OTFness"?

Grand Moff Gav
Originally posted by BackFire
No, it's in the otf, why should it be closed for descending into "OTFness"?

.........your right.......becaue I detest what the OTF has become!

Vinny Valentine
Uhm Moff, you made the thread you can ask for it to be closed.

BackFire

Grand Moff Gav
I did!

Grand Moff Gav
Originally posted by BackFire
I have over 400 porn clips/full length films on my computer. My collection is legendary to my friends, for several of whom I've made a DVD of my choice selection. They said it's the best DVD they've ever recieved.

For christ sake

Vinny Valentine
Well then a Mod should close it.

Grand Moff Gav
backfire could have closed it!

Vinny Valentine
Well if you pm asking for it,doesn't he have to?

Grand Moff Gav
I think they do....but then RPs arn't allowed in OTF but here they are!

Bloigen
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Well if you pm asking for it,doesn't he have to?

Don't think so.

Bloigen
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
I think they do....but then RPs arn't allowed in OTF but here they are!

It's not an RP, stop acting so childish.

BackFire
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
I think they do....but then RPs arn't allowed in OTF but here they are!

Two mods have already told you that the mafia isn't a valid RP. You are simply wrong.

Grand Moff Gav
Whatever...close this please!

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by BackFire
Two mods have already told you that the mafia isn't a valid RP. You are simply wrong.

No Its the Mod's Opinions and Our Opinions, no one is WRONG.

Why not close the thread sence he asked.

BackFire
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
No Its the Mod's Opinions and Our Opinions, no one is WRONG.

Why not close the thread sence he asked.

Yes, those who think that the mafia is a valid RP that should be in the RP section or somewhere besides the OTF are wrong, as has been pointed out and shown on numerous occasions.

The mods know the rules of this site, we know what belongs where.

Vinny Valentine

dave123
Originally posted by BackFire
You guys may be good at RPing, but I'm totally unbeatable at watching and collecting porn. bold statement to make yes

BackFire
No it wouldn't.

That insinuates a certain degree of seriousness and dedication. There is no "drama" in the mafia thread. Just people talking like mafia stereotypes and screwing around. It doesn't qualify.

Bloigen

Ladyluck
Guys, come on. You're going in circles. Just drop it.

Grand Moff Gav
CLOSE
Topic over!

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by BackFire
No it wouldn't.

That insinuates a certain degree of seriousness and dedication. There is no "drama" in the mafia thread. Just people talking like mafia stereotypes and screwing around. It doesn't qualify.

Just because Ush may not like it The Dictionary Def PROOVES it IS an Roleplay, a Roleplay can be classified as that, even if yall don't like it.
I don't exactly like arguing with a Mod and I don't want to get banned so This is my last post in this thread.

Grand Moff Gav
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
CLOSE
Topic over!

Grand Moff Gav
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
CLOSE
Topic over!
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Bloigen
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
.

Stop that.

Grand Moff Gav
What that

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
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BackFire
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Just because Ush may not like it The Dictionary Def PROOVES it IS an Roleplay, a Roleplay can be classified as that, even if yall don't like it.
I don't exactly like arguing with a Mod and I don't want to get banned so This is my last post in this thread.

Again, the dictionary doesn't prove it is a roleplay, I already proved to you that, according to that definition, it isn't a valid roleplay because it isn't serious enough, there is no drama within the mafia thread.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by BackFire
Again, the dictionary doesn't prove it is a roleplay, I already proved to you that, according to that definition, it isn't a valid roleplay because it isn't serious enough, there is no drama within the mafia thread.

It Doesn't matter, Serious or not it still would be classified as it becasue they take the role of someone other then themselve, I agree its not serious but it still shouldn't be clamming up the OTF.

Ladyluck
Originally posted by Ladyluck
Guys, come on. You're going in circles. Just drop it.

Vinny Valentine
hmpf.

BackFire
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
It Doesn't matter, Serious or not it still would be classified as it becasue they take the role of someone other then themselve, I agree its not serious but it still shouldn't be clamming up the OTF.

No it wouldn't. Read the damn definition. It has the word "Drama" is right there. There is no drama in the mafia thread.

Also, the whole OTF is basically the toilet of KMC. It's where all the stupid, silly, idioitic and off the wall threads belong. The Mafia thread is in the right place.

Vinny Valentine
A drama Doesn't have to be serious, I have been in Drama plays that aren't.

BackFire
It has to be more serious then that mafia thread is, which, again, is just a bunch of people screwing around without any actual design or story.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by BackFire
It has to be more serious then that mafia thread is, which, again, is just a bunch of people screwing around without any actual design or story.

So that why there should be an OTF RP forum, for it. I'd Happily Post and Mod It laughing out loud

BackFire
No there shouldn't, it's fine here. Just ignore it if you don't like it. Not that hard.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by BackFire
No there shouldn't, it's fine here. Just ignore it if you don't like it. Not that hard.

Not when peopl are idiots and take it to far.

BackFire
In what way?

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by BackFire
In what way?

From this stupid Mafia thread thats got less then 1000 posts, it has caused alot of problems with all sorts of things, aka threads against and for it. It takes away the good threads.

BackFire
That's not the fault of the mafia thread, that's the fault of the people who decided to give it attention and make other threads about it.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by BackFire
That's not the fault of the mafia thread, that's the fault of the people who decided to give it attention and make other threads about it.

Still, it should have just been orginially posted in the RP forum, and if there was a problem, then move it.

BackFire
No, it was posted in the right spot. The RP sections is reserved for real RP's with a consistant storyline and at least some degree of seriousness.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by BackFire
No, it was posted in the right spot. The RP sections is reserved for real RP's with a consistant storyline and at least some degree of seriousness.

But if you read the first post in the mafia thread, it was made for an RP then people took it out and made it what it is.

BackFire
I read the first post, it wasn't an RP. Again, it didn't offer enough real story or character creation, it was just a bunch of silly stuff, no real direction or anything.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by BackFire
I read the first post, it wasn't an RP. Again, it didn't offer enough real story or character creation, it was just a bunch of silly stuff, no real direction or anything.

Thats true, but some RP's can be off them mind. This has gotten very pointless laughing out loud

Storm
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