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Billy Batson vs. Orion w/o Astro-Harness. Who wins?

Orion

why?

Orion is a better fighter, stronger, durabale, smarter as for fighting, nothing take away from Captain Marvel but he is not ruthles enough to take on crazy god. Orion with the astro force can increase strength and other abilities at will, if he takes of mother box he will put a beating on Captain Marvel in a big way.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Orion is a better fighter, stronger, durabale, smarter as for fighting, nothing take away from Captain Marvel but he is not ruthles enough to take on crazy god. Orion with the astro force can increase strength and other abilities at will, if he takes of mother box he will put a beating on Captain Marvel in a big way. So by that statement Orion is leagues above Supes on those categories according to your opinion.

Tough fight here. But I think Billy has the better chin and he will outlast Orion.

Hardly. Orion is much more durable. He's taken on the Keeper for heaven's sake.

Orion 8/10 yea I said it ...............

slight edge to orion. cm isn't the warrior he is. orion is just . . . nasty . . .

it would be extremely close, but i think orion takes him 7/10. i would love to see the effect of his lightning on orion though. if it does well, he could possibly win a couple more.

and draco, when did he fight keeper?

Originally posted by Draco69
Hardly. Orion is much more durable. He's taken on the Keeper for heaven's sake. CM took on the Spectre..........

Originally posted by snoopdogg
CM took on the Spectre..........

Not that fight again..................

when did orion take on the keeper?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
CM took on the Spectre..........

With help from a dozen mages channeling every enormous magics into him....


Did ya ever wonder why CM was suddenly 50 feet tall....?

Originally posted by Draco69
With help from a dozen mages channeling every enormous magics into him....


Did ya ever wonder why CM was suddenly 50 feet tall....?
Exactly.............

Originally posted by Draco69
With help from a dozen mages channeling every enormous magics into him....


Did ya ever wonder why CM was suddenly 50 feet tall....? He was holding up prettty well BEFORE being amped up.

He even impressed Spectre BEFORE being amped up.

so, when did orion fight keeper?

Originally posted by Draco69
With help from a dozen mages channeling every enormous magics into him....


Did ya ever wonder why CM was suddenly 50 feet tall....?

Before Cap started to get the amp, they were pretty even.

Plus if Spectre can take magic why cant Cap?

Orion, the son of Darkseid? He has fought Silver Surfer before, but he was defeated by Silver Surfer. I don't know when Orion has fought The Keeper.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Orion, the son of Darkseid? He has fought Silver Surfer before, but he was defeated by Silver Surfer. I don't know when Orion has fought The Keeper.
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It was a crossover, Orion and DarkSeid Vs Galactus and Silver Surfer; A battle raged Silver Surfer fought with Orion and defeated him, well Galactus and Dark Seid went at it.

that wasn't keeper, was it? i have the xover. obeams throttled ss in that. ss did beat down orion. that was pis. orion should put up a much better fight. he sounded like a whiny kid in that issue.

keeper? i could double check, but damn, i thought that was regular ss . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
that wasn't keeper, was it? i have the xover. obeams throttled ss in that. ss did beat down orion. that was pis. orion should put up a much better fight. he sounded like a whiny kid in that issue.

keeper? i could double check, but damn, i thought that was regular ss . . .
It was......

thought so . . .

so the keeper gets owned by Darkseid?

Surfer got downed by the Omega Beams.

It also appears he got downed by a helmet as well. Whats up with that?

No!!!!!! it was not the keeper in that cross over it was regular Surfer.

Originally posted by thesilverspider
No!!!!!! it was not the keeper in that cross over it was regular Surfer.

I think we all agree it was regular Surfer.

apparently you're not saying it loud enough . . .

People it's ANOTHER Keeper. There's two different Keepers.

Originally posted by leonidas
apparently you're not saying it loud enough . . .

Originally posted by Draco69
People it's ANOTHER Keeper. There's two different Keepers.
Thank you this ass comes in here bringing up the surfer as the keeper then the whole thread turns into if it was really regular surfer in the cross over..........

You're all wrong. It was Unipower Surfer.

Originally posted by The Ion
You're all wrong. It was Unipower Surfer.
True........Ask Ion......

orion all the way.......