Utlimate Cap versus 616 Captain America

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King KAM
Let the battle begin....

brainchild81
Ultimate Cap.

King KAM
Originally posted by brainchild81
Ultimate Cap. as much as i want to agree.....i gotta got with my boy 616 cap.....for old times sake...

princegoku
Yeah i thought Ultimate Cap coz i prefer him but 616 Cap has far more experience

Black Adam
616 would find a way to take him down.


prep or no prep.

Private Pion
616. Knows the job better.

King KAM
Super BUMP!

Mider
why is this other cap ultimate anyway whats so ultimate about him :P

Mr Master
come on, you know 616 can't take him no matter how clever he is

King KAM
Originally posted by Mr Master
come on, you know 616 can't take him no matter how clever he is he may be able to outfight him....

brainchild81
Ultimate Cap's serum is better. It gives him low level superstrength and he knows how to apply it. Dude beat up Giant Man in Giant form. Ultimate Cap wins.

soleran30
Ultimate Cap busts a cap in 616 Captain! Lol Ultimate Cap knocked Ultimate Hulk in the ding-ding and stunned him! Ultimate Cap smokes 616 Captain.

Cosmic Cube
Ultimate Cap is a two ton lifter. Normal cap is in the peak human range.

Ever try fighting someone 4-5 times stronger than you are?

Be realistic, folks. 616 Cap gets trounced.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by King KAM
he may be able to outfight him....

Ultimate Cap will break 616 Cap in half. He's too much stronger. Saying that 616 Cap can outfight Ultimate Cap is like saying Batman can beat Spiderman in a brawl. Illogical.

King KAM
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Ultimate Cap will break 616 Cap in half. He's too much stronger. Saying that 616 Cap can outfight Ultimate Cap is like saying Batman can beat Spiderman in a brawl. Illogical. I understand all of these things, but 616 cap has floored the hulk with one kick before, and has beat up on people with more superhuman strength like U.Sagent, all im saying is that 616 cap is no joke.....and i dont know if he will lose as easily as everyone thinks, the man has FAR more experience, and trains more.

soleran30
Ultimate Cap is a far newer incarnation of Captain all together. However his attitude and willingness to do anything to win makes him a beast to handle.

Everyone that sits back and throws out these arguments that 616 Cap has so many shwoings yeah sure of course however Ult Cap fights to win and end fights...................616 Cap fights to simply stop fights and disable. Ult Cap is FAR FAR more dangeroussmile

King KAM
Originally posted by soleran30
Ultimate Cap is a far newer incarnation of Captain all together. However his attitude and willingness to do anything to win makes him a beast to handle.

Everyone that sits back and throws out these arguments that 616 Cap has so many shwoings yeah sure of course however Ult Cap fights to win and end fights...................616 Cap fights to simply stop fights and disable. Ult Cap is FAR FAR more dangeroussmile agreed more dangerous, but is 616 cap is ordered to kill, than he will.

brainchild81
True. Both have "K"ed a "B" before.

The Ion
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Ultimate Cap is a two ton lifter. Normal cap is in the peak human range.

Ever try fighting someone 4-5 times stronger than you are?

Be realistic, folks. 616 Cap gets trounced.
http://www.break.com/movies/davidgoliath.html

brainchild81
Originally posted by The Ion
http://www.break.com/movies/davidgoliath.html That's cool as hell. I don't think the big guy had that much skill though. U.Cap does.

Scoobless
616 Cap seems more agile and can do things with his shield on a regular basis that Ultimate Cap has probably never even dreamed of trying

soleran30
once again probably because Ultimate Cap has far fewer showings............once again though *** for tat Ultimate Cap is just a different kind of soldier that puts you down first and is far less flashy.

More go less showsmile

snoopdogg
Originally posted by brainchild81
That's cool as hell. I don't think the big guy had that much skill though. U.Cap does. Zulu was the big guys name. He is a good Pride fighter from Japan. The guy who knocked him was a Russian.

Don't mess with Russians. Especially this one.

Fedor Emelianenko

Perhaps no other fighter in PRIDE FC is as feared as Fedor Emelianenko. This Russian heavyweight is one of the hardest hitters in the sport, but besides his heavy hands, he is also technically versed in submissions (Emelianenko was the 1997 Russian National Judo/Sambo Champion, the 1997 European Sambo Champion and placed first in the 2002 World Sambo Championships in the heavyweight division). If one survives standing toe to toe with him, it only gets worse when the fight goes to the ground as Emelianenko's "ground and pound" game is among the most devastating in the sport. Add this to his uncanny ability to avoid submissions on the ground and this Russian becomes even more of a nightmare match-up. Emelianenko has been training and fighting since his childhood (his younger and more massive brother, Alexander, is also a fighter) and today he is one of the youngest and very best heavyweights in the world.

brainchild81
I've always wanted to see actual Sambo in action. They once said wrestler Bill Goldberg knew that stuff, but prowrestling's fake and he rarely did much more than two moves anyway. Know where I can find some good stuff on Sambo?

DigiMark007
Ultimate Cap is just the "vogue" choice right now. They both have enhanced strength. Anyone want to try to prove to me U. Cap is terribly beyond 616 in that department?

616 has thrown down with an impressive list of people too....Namor, Spider-Man, etc....and held his own. Until I see a bit more, U. Cap is cool as hell, but I'd side with 616.

brainchild81
Well Fury was saying something about Cap bench pressing a car or something like that. I'll post the issue number when I get back to the city.

A cool clip of Cap from the new animated movie. Look for the link @ the bottom of the page. There's also a clip @ the official site.Originally posted by King_Mungi
Enjoy
1. http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=3834

DigiMark007
Most cars are still under a ton. 616 Cap can bench, what, about 800-1000 lbs, right? Even if it's some stupid giant car, Ultimate Cap isn't much stronger than him...and 616 Cap is no stranger to fighting above his league.

brainchild81
Believe me I know 616 Cap is the real deal and no joke, but Ultimate Cap just seems to have the edge. He IS stronger than 616 Cap, I'll find out how much so shortly. I'll find all of his stats.

King KAM
War 616!!!

Soleran
Wow not to mention the fight with the Russion SS and Ult Capt picked up a piece of wood and jacked him right through the shoulder! Thats the kind of thing 616 Cap doesn't pull. Thats why Ult Cap 4 the Victory.

King KAM
Originally posted by Soleran
Wow not to mention the fight with the Russion SS and Ult Capt picked up a piece of wood and jacked him right through the shoulder! Thats the kind of thing 616 Cap doesn't pull. Thats why Ult Cap 4 the Victory. cap doesnt pull that because so far he hasnt needed too.

Grimm22
Hmm if anything I would probobly give this fight to 616 Cap just because of his experience over Ultimate Cap.

Still this could be the greatest battle ever.

willRules
I say Ultimate cap wins this. I think he is physically superior to Mainstream Cap. Mainstream Cap is more skilled and has more impresive feats with shield throwing but thats because Ultimate Cap has only a few showings. I think Ultimate Cap wins due to impressive durability feats like taking hits from Ultimate Hulk (Yes I know mainstream Cap has taken hits from mainstream hulk) and jumping out of planes without parachutes and without any noticable injuries seen here...............
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/2039/theultimates1p048iy.th.jpg

and here.........

http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/3561/ultimates12p052tl.th.jpg
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/9249/ultimates12p062nm.th.jpg


He has also taken down Ultimate Hulk as seen here.............
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1388/ult05p150id.th.jpg
and a shape shifting alien with considerable strength feats as seen here.......
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/9352/ultimates12p240em.th.jpg

willRules
He has also withstood being unprepared, sleep deprivated and considerablly drugged up whilst fighting super enhanced shield agents and rocket men. Although he was knocked out he put up an impressive fight and nearly escaped as seen here.................

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2713/untitled8163rd.th.jpg
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And here he nearly escapes shield custody whilst being drugged up and just been thawed out of decades of being stuck in ice........

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/2782/ultimates03079li.th.jpg
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/7216/ultimates03082wu.th.jpg
http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/7893/ultimates03090fn.th.jpg

willRules
Don't get me wrong I think it will be a a close fight but I think Ultimate Cap wins 6/10

steverules
Ult Cap all the way.

vamp d-3
Ultimate cap would definetly beat 616 cap

King KAM
I have seen all those feats, and those are NOTHING that 616 doesnt do all the time, Ult.Cap goes down hard.

King KAM
jumping out of planes..... Cap is famous for that Ult. or not. Ult Cap would get WORKED by 616

willRules
Originally posted by King KAM
I have seen all those feats, and those are NOTHING that 616 doesnt do all the time, Ult.Cap goes down hard.

Whilst I agree that Cap has some impressive showings, Ultimate Cap also does. (Even though he has nowhere as near as many appearances.) Ultimate Cap's endurance is ridiculous and he hasn't really lost a fair fight yet.......................

Originally posted by King KAM
jumping out of planes..... Cap is famous for that Ult. or not. Ult Cap would get WORKED by 616

I know. 616 Cap recently performed a similar feat in the winter soldier storyline and more recently a similar feat in the first issue of civil war smile

However Ultimate Cap appears to be stronger and faster than 616. He also appears to be a tactical genius just like 616 and is no slouch in the skill department either. IMO Ultimate Cap wins 6/10

riceroost
Ultimate Cap would own 616 Cap and do it hard.

DarkCrawler
616 will probably take the majority.

who?-kid
The things I have seen from Ultimate CA, are pretty cool, but not in such a way that I think : wow, 616 is outclassed.

616 CA simply has more impressive feats, and that has to count for something.

DarkCrawler
He also has ridicolously more experience.

who?-kid
Yup. Like 616 is gonna care that Ultimate CA can press half a ton more lol. He will be soooo impressed... sick

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