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I thought this might be a good match. I think Geese Howard will take this one. Takuma is a strong MOFO, but Geese is just a evil demon and it was Geese that had Takuma/Mr Karate doing HIS bidding in AOF 2. So what do you guys think of this fight?

Depends on what version of Mr Karate... if he is standard: Geese owns him.

If he is Serious Mr. Karate...: Geese would have his ass handed to him

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Depends on what version of Mr Karate... if he is standard: Geese owns him.

If he is Serious Mr. Karate...: Geese would have his ass handed to him

I agree. Geese would get his ass fried by triple shi-koh-kens if it was Serious My karate, like most people would.

... Unless it's Nightmare Geese...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
... Unless it's Nightmare Geese...

Nightmare Geese was a F**king monster to the 25th power.

Geese wins unless it's Serious Mr. Karate.

akuma wins from both of them

I agree, but you haven't answered the question remy

mr karate wins. even he isn't serious

regular akuma defeated M.Bison with ease
so why shouldn't mr karate win from Geese?

Originally posted by brainchild81
Geese wins unless it's Serious Mr. Karate.

.. didnt "Mr. Karate" used to be geese's henchman in he fatal fury days?

Originally posted by shin_remy
mr karate wins. even he isn't serious

regular akuma defeated M.Bison with ease
so why shouldn't mr karate win from Geese? I see what your getting @, but regular Akuma would beat the piss out of Mr. Karate/Takuma though. It's not the same thing Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
.. didnt "Mr. Karate" used to be geese's henchman in he fatal fury days? I think so. But now he's all serious & stuff

Geese respected Takuma back in the day (Art of fighting) in those days even Geese would think twice before engaging in battle.

Such was not the case later in his life. Not so prideful anymore.

It seems to be 3 different forms to Takuma.

There is Takuma
http://www.vesta.dti.ne.jp/~tsato/cg/xvi_takuma.jpg
were he is not fighting at his full capacity or holding back. (He is as strong as Ryo, or Terry if you want to compare)

Mr. Karate
http://bohyou.vis.ne.jp/neogeo/aof/eban01.jpg
were he now unleashes the full power Kyokogen ryu. Mr. Karate has made very few appearances, the few times he did he was the end Boss or a secret boss in SNK, well up until SvC chaos
(He was the final boss in Art of Fighting 1, Ryo was the secret boss in called Fatal Fury: Wild Ambition)
I would safely place him along the ranks of end bosses that achieved their power thru dedication and natural talent. - Some ware along the lines of Geese, Kruaser, normal Rugal etc..-


Honki Ni Natta Mr. Karate (or "Serious Mr. Karate" this is the latest incarnation of Mr. Karate. Here in the cross over game. Snk separates Mr. Karate and Serious Mr. Karate.
Unlike Mr. Karate ware in the canon plot line the mask does not grant more power to Takuma.
In the Snk vs. CC the story seems to point out that it does. Granting Takuma deadlier than his alter ego Mr. Karate and seems to be as powerful as say Shin Akuma.



Art Of Fighting 2 Dialogue
Takuma
Before The Fight With Geese:
Geese's Bodyguard: Ms. Takuma Sakazaki? The police commissioner would
like a word with you. Could you walk this way?
Takuma: The commissioner? I wonder what this could be... a trap? Wah!

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Vs. Geese:
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Geese: Long time no see, Takuma! How is your daughter?
Takuma: Geese? You...!

Geese: People should learn to finish their sentences. But I'm happy you
remembered my name, ya... big galoat! Care to make up?
Takuma: I said it before and I'm sayin' it again... no, no, no! Okay?!

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After Takuma defeats Geese:
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Geese: Is this how you treat your kind benefactor? Oh, cruel world!
Takuma: Quiet! Now I pay you back for everything! Ha oh... eh! What the
heck...?

Geese's Bodyguard: This way, Mr. Geese.
Geese: I have lost this time, but I'll be back. For now my farewell!
Takuma: Wait, the battle isn't over yet, Geese!


SvC chaos dialogue

Geese Howard vs. Mr. Karate:

GEESE: What's with that ridiculous mask? Insulting me, Sakazaki?
KARATE: Don't know Sakazaki. They call me, Mr. Karate, the Karate Goblin...
GEESE: Imbecile.
KARATE: Yeah, but Mr. Karate's no ordinary imbecile... You'll see for yourself!


Geese Howard vs. Shin Mr. Karate:

S.KARATE: Who would've thought that young punk would be what he is today?
GEESE: I know you! Takuma Sakazaki!
S.KARATE: Don't you think you've gone a little over the top, Geese. Huh?
GEESE: Hmph! I'm not the kid I used to be!


Note

Geese was the real final boss in Art of Fighting 2
Mr. Karate was the secret boss in Fatal Fury Wild Ambition. It is later revealed that Ryo was posing as Mr. Karate.
http://www.snkplaymore.jp/official/nbc/character/img/p_karate1.jpg

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there is something from with info.

takuma is holding back powers just like akuma

mr karate not, he unleashes here his full power and is even to regular akuma!!!

it is all the same person. akuma destroys him!!

geese lose from mr karate!!

ok.. so are we talking about the mr karate ryo.. or the mr karate takuma..? I think the ryo mr. karate has untapped potential.. whereas the takuma version is hitting a limit barrier quite like akuma

Originally posted by shin_remy
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there is something from with info.

takuma is holding back powers just like akuma

mr karate not, he unleashes here his full power and is even to regular akuma!!!

it is all the same person. akuma destroys him!!

geese lose from mr karate!! Geese beats the mess out of every version but the Serious one.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
ok.. so are we talking about the mr karate ryo.. or the mr karate takuma..? I think the ryo mr. karate has untapped potential.. whereas the takuma version is hitting a limit barrier quite like akuma

Takuma. I just added the Ryo info for awareness.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Geese beats the mess out of every version but the Serious one.

Why? I think Mr. Karate and Geese are some what even to each other. Both in plot line and gameplay.

Takuma whould give Geese a good fight, if not beat him; but Mr. Karate whould own Geese period.

Originally posted by id369
Takuma. I just added the Ryo info for awareness.



Why? I think Mr. Karate and Geese are some what even to each other. Both in plot line and gameplay. Time for my fanboy post. Geese is too cool to lose. Just look @ him. What was Takuma's power level in the card games?

Card game!!!! people still use that?? that game isn't right!!

I know. Some people care about those things. I'll use them against them whenever possible.

I think Geese will win too.... see the History of AOF to FF

Originally posted by carrotgl4z3
I think Geese will win too.... see the History of AOF to FF

Acording to AOF Geese was no match for Mr. Karate.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I see what your getting @, but regular Akuma would beat the piss out of Mr. Karate/Takuma though.

That can be debated. I think they are roughly equal.

no according snk mr karate is stronger

I think akuma would beat Mr. Karate, in response to Jrodslam.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I think akuma would beat Mr. Karate, in response to Jrodslam.

Acording to thier ending....Shin Akuma seems to have more stamina than Serious Mr. Karate.

Not surprised. Regular Akuma'd beat Regular Mr. Karate with ease. Ken and/or Ryu'd beat him up too. The only time he's a threat is Serious Mr. K.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Not surprised. Regular Akuma'd beat Regular Mr. Karate with ease. Ken and/or Ryu'd beat him up too. The only time he's a threat is Serious Mr. K.

Thats in the comic book thou. Thats non canon.

The ending and info Im using come strait from the game.

What's in what comic?

Originally posted by brainchild81
Not surprised. Regular Akuma'd beat Regular Mr. Karate with ease. Ken and/or Ryu'd beat him up too. The only time he's a threat is Serious Mr. K.

Who knows. Although Shin Akuma and Serious Mr.Karate were dead even, thus id assume regular Akuma and Mr.Karate would be dead even also.

Originally posted by id369
Thats in the comic book thou. Thats non canon.

The ending and info Im using come strait from the game.

What game ending are you talking about where Shin Akuma had more stamina than Serious Mr.Karate? Chaos? If so, i didnt see it.

Well, in SVC Mr Karate really isn't a match for Geese.

But Serious Mr Karate can give Geese a good fight. At that level, I'd say they are even.

serious mr karate is also NON CANON btw

Sure. I'm still basing them both off the SVC Game anyways. It's in there, so I'll state my thoughts on it. Mr Karate doesn't have that much combo potential and plays more like an Old School player while Geese has a vast amount of moves and high combo ability, not to mention the damage of his moves are much greater.. anywho.

Mr. Karate is said to be a higher level then Geese
snk replaced so many characters for new ones

read many topics about Mr Karate and about Geese

Mr Karate is supposed to be on pair with Akuma ( even he's not )

And Geese is nowhere on Akuma's level. but i have read somewhere that Mr Karate was a good match against Geese or something.