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Nihlilus without the draining abilitie and Sion vs Revan and Malak in Nihilus's ship in space, id say Nihilus and Sion take it.

Nihilus without the draining ability is useless.. Sion isn't uber powerful with his regeneration ability.. You have the greatest Jedi/Sith of the KOTOR era in Malak and Revan, I don't think it's a contest when I think Revan himself can hold these two.

What do you mean "useless",Nihilus is still powerful with the draining ability,unless you played the kotor 2 game on easy,and Sion is just as powerful or a bit more than Malak

Nihilus could make the ship crash by not holding it together I think, then only Sion would survive. But mabey Revan and Malak could hold it up, but when fighting Nihilus and Sion at the same time?

Well to the fight anyway.
Nihilus got strongly weakend when he drained the Exile plus that he was holding up the ship, still he held him back decently. He looks to be very powerful in the force and could probably contend with Revan and Malak in force powers. But both would beat him in a straight out duel. If they could break Sion's will they win easily, if they can't they loose.

Its Nihilus before he tried to drain the exile

Nihilus without his eating ability is an unknown, we don't know what he can do, or can not do. WHo he can kill or can not kill, how good he is with a lightsaber. Hell he would vary in power a lot between two given moments because of how long ago he ate and what he ate... After just eating Katarr he would be one of the most powrful if not the most powerful person ever, when he arrived at Telos most people would take him down. Without eating Nihilus is nothing we can judge.

That's not entirely true. We can compare him to Sion in the fight on his ship.

No we can't...

The fight was purely gameplay so that means nothing.
Nihilus took out Sion once with his technique
Nihilus also became weaker then before after trying to eat the Exile.

The only real Nihilus we can judge is after he tried to eat the Exile, and at that state we can safely say he is weaker then the Exile and most likely Sion... How much weaker however? And how powerful were those two people?

That's what I meant. On his ship when he tried to eat The Exile but then became weaker. We can compare him to the Sion from this bit of gameplay by seeing how hard it is for the exile to beat him and then compare that to how hard it is for the Exile to beat Sion. I know that other variables change, for instance the Exile likely grows stronger by the time he fights Sion, but you can still make an accurate guess of how good he is taking all this under careful consideration.

What's the point of Nihilus without draining abilities? Why is he handicapped but no one else is?

Originally posted by Wesker
What's the point of Nihilus without draining abilities? Why is he handicapped but no one else is?

Cause Nihilus is more powerful then anybody else with his draining ability he shouldn't be put in threads at all really, without his draining ability he's just a big unknown anyway so we can't judge him.

Well, when someone comes up with a thesis directly showing Nihilus' power without that ability, I'll entertain it. But Nihilus sans the draining power is a complete unknown and a ridiculous candidate for a fight.

Originally posted by Fishy
Cause Nihilus is more powerful then anybody else with his draining ability he shouldn't be put in threads at all really, without his draining ability he's just a big unknown anyway so we can't judge him.

Thats an unknown if you base upon the Ancient Sith, since the technique evolved from The Ancient Sith, its higly likely, that they made a defense for the draining technique, it works no different than the Scepter of Ragnos, which not only drains the force, but stores it, focuses it, and as well empower non force users with it. However that is just my theory, but its plausible that a Sith like Ragnos, may block Nihilus, though its once again pure speculation.

Originally posted by w00t2112
Thats an unknown if you base upon the Ancient Sith, since the technique evolved from The Ancient Sith, its higly likely, that they made a defense for the draining technique, it works no different than the Scepter of Ragnos, which not only drains the force, but stores it, focuses it, and as well empower non force users with it. However that is just my theory, but its plausible that a Sith like Ragnos, may block Nihilus, though its once again pure speculation.

Wrong there is absolutely no evidence to say that the ancient sith knew the technique.

It literally eats the force, it doesn't do what Ragnos his sceptre does. The technique couldn't have been known to other people anyways because they would eat the force where they walk... Thats what the technique does, there is absolutely nothing that could stop something from eating the very thing that makes you alive, except for the Exile who was a wound in the force as well.

"It is an old technique, born of the ancient Sith."

Originally posted by Darth Traya
"It is an old technique, born of the ancient Sith."

Kreia actually said that? Talking about this technique?

Becuase she also has said many times, its a technique that can not be learned. and that there is no defense against it. We've also never seen an ancient Sith eat the force...