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This sounds like a pretty basic question. But there are those that seem to think different.






Discuss.

I wipe my hairy ass with what they think. Of course humans are animals. Mammals in fact.

Of course humans are, you can even witness the most primal of animal acts in everyday life.

"Fighting" over females, trying to establish dominance, providing for family, courting etc.

-AC

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
I wipe my hairy ass with what they think. Of course humans are animals. Mammals in fact.

Agreed.

Well, there'S not much to argue about, we certainly are animals.

we are animals with a highly evolved sense of conscience, which however redeeming, also causes us to have dellusions that we are actually not animals, and are in fact the center of the universe and the reason for all existance.

In line with PVS, off course we are animals, we are merely 'blessed' with more evolved brains and mental capabilities and emotions. The human characteristics that come with this do not separate us from the animal world, it only specifies our species.

Originally posted by PVS
we are animals with a highly evolved sense of conscience, which however redeeming, also causes us to have dellusions that we are actually not animals, and are in fact the center of the universe and the reason for all existance.

I was going to say about how we have evolved and all that but I knew someone else would

We all do those things on a metaphorical level...

Throw in PMS and you'd eat your kids and mate too..lol

One time I asked how come when you swat at a fly it keeps coming back, and some dude replied, "it's too stupid to know any better. You can't train a fly."

Humans are mammals.

Joseph Merrick would disagree with you all, but that would be on a different basis.

Of course we're animals.

i hear the distant thumping of a bible growing increasingly louder.

It depends on what you define 'animal' to mean....

If you define animal to mean an organism with organs, muscles, brain, needing to eat, breathe and reproduce etc etc....

Then sure we are...

But if you're asking are we 'merely' animals... then I'd say no.

I think we're better than every other animal on this planet. We're blessed with intelligence and creativity that nothing else in the world has exhibited.

I believe that we were created alongside the animals but also above them.

I believe that animals are on this planet not only to provide for us with clothing and food, but also to teach us compassion and responsibility by looking after them as well as piqueing our natural and healthy curiousity about the world.

Animals are great. They're great as pets. Great to study and look after. Great even to eat.

But I think humans are superior to animals.

I disagree...then again I don't think that we are superior to stones so well, what do I know.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I disagree...then again I don't think that we are superior to stones so well, what do I know.

Animals very much animals

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
But I think humans are superior to animals.

Superior?

Most Animals have adapted to live completely in synch with their environment.
Human Animals cannot.

There are thousands of animals that are proportionately (if not actually) stronger, faster, stealthier and longer lived than human animals.

There are many animals that can fly under their own power.
Human animals cannot.

There are species of animals that exhibit emotions, compassion and cognetive/problem solving abilities. Although ours is much further advanced, they are not abilities unique to us, just abilities that we excel at.

Many of the world's animals are superior to us in many ways.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Superior?

Most Animals have adapted to live completely in synch with their environment.
Human Animals cannot.

There are thousands of animals that are proportionately (if not actually) stronger, faster, stealthier and longer lived than human animals.

There are many animals that can fly under their own power.
Human animals cannot.

There are species of animals that exhibit emotions, compassion and cognetive/problem solving abilities. Although ours is much further advanced, they are not abilities unique to us, just abilities that we excel at.

Many of the world's animals are superior to us in many ways.

And just think about how long stones exist...they can't even die....GO STONES w00t

Originally posted by Bardock42
And just think about how long stones exist...they can't even die....GO STONES w00t

Yes, stones rock.

We are animals...

Just watch the news; the answer is obvious.

Originally posted by Mindship
Just watch the news; the answer is obvious.

I try not to do that, it's so depressing.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Superior?

Most Animals have adapted to live completely in synch with their environment.
Human Animals cannot.



However show them a famine or a drought and they are fecked, in the west where to have such wonderful inventions as factory farming I can still go down to ASDA and buy my Veal!

Anti-Christian thread




And yes we are animals......we're just special

Originally posted by Echuu
Anti-Christian thread




And yes we are animals......we're just special

Special? As special as any other animal? Then I agree.

is whob not even gonner chirp in???

Originally posted by Bardock42
Special? As special as any other animal? Then I agree. But I'm really special...

Originally posted by Echuu
Anti-Christian thread

This is not a christian bashing thread. Don't be so defensive.

I would hazard to guess that many christians would believe that people are indeed animals.

Originally posted by debbiejo
But I'm really special...

Special? As special as any other human? Then I agree. ....nah, sure we are different and that makes everyone "special" but not in a superior sense....well, I mean I guess some people are superior than others, but ...hmm....you get the point.....although, I don't.

Originally posted by debbiejo
But I'm really special...

yes you are and they told you that at school Bebbie.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Special? As special as any other animal? Then I agree.

No. You don't see monkeys building sky scrapers do you? Or dolphins building cruise ships. Or going into space?(yes animals have 'gone' into space but what other group of 'animals' put them there? Humans.

We may be under the same characteristics as animals and can be classified as them etc. but to think that we are 'just animals' and not superior in any way is patently absurd.

Originally posted by Echuu
No. You don't see monkeys building sky scrapers do you? Or dolphins building cruise ships. Or going into space?(yes animals have 'gone' into space but what other group of 'animals' put them there? Humans.

We may be under the same characteristics as animals and can be classified as them etc. but to think that we are 'just animals' and not superior in any way is patently absurd.

so we are superior because we build things? beavers build dams.
oh but we build really big super duper ultra mega things!!!

Originally posted by Echuu
No. You don't see monkeys building sky scrapers do you? Or dolphins building cruise ships. Or going into space?(yes animals have 'gone' into space but what other group of 'animals' put them there? Humans.

We may be under the same characteristics as animals and can be classified as them etc. but to think that we are 'just animals' and not superior in any way is patently absurd.

But once agian, by that logic, humans can't fly by their own power. We are significantly weaker than most other animals, proportionately weaker than almost all other animals. In many ways humans are inferior to other animals, why not point out those differences to set us apart?

Intelligence is a characteristic of our species. It does not make us superior.

Don't forget the fact that studies have shown that dolphins and many species of the ape family are just as smart as humans, if not more so.

Yes, humans are animals. No, we're not particularly superior to other animals. We simply evolved this way.

I've said this many times. People say "Back in the day we still hunted and survived, even without the technology and intelligence." Which is fair enough, but some attributes have replaces others.

You put a human in a cage with a bear and chances are that it's not coming out alive, or coming out at all. We're only superior because we know how to use our environment and it's contents to make our weapons, shelter etc. A lot of animals don't need. Eg: Polar Bears. They don't need coats and all they need to do is hunt. In THAT environment, where it's all even, humans die all the time.

-AC

how are we superior to animals because we use up every resource on the planet for nothing more than our own selfish and superficial material gain? the earths population exists only to work, breed, survive, kill, and consume. every 'great' accomplishment of mankind falls into one of these self-serving categories.
i fail to see how superiority can be measured by how an animal serves its own needs.

Originally posted by PVS
so we are superior because we build things? beavers build dams.
oh but we build really big super duper ultra mega things!!!

Nice


I'm sure building a dam made of sticks is WAYYYYY greater than something like the Hoover Dam, Empire State Building, etc.


KharmaDog>...........yes but the fact that we have the intelligence to make weapons to defend ourselves from these animals and defeat them has to count for something.

And it's not just intelligence.. what about creativity, love etc.

Originally posted by Echuu
Nice


I'm sure building a dam made of sticks is WAYYYYY greater than something like the Hoover Dam, Empire State Building, etc.

why would a beaver need to build something beyond its own need?

Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much... the wheel, New York, wars, and so on, whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely the dolphins believed themselves to be more intelligent than man for precisely the same reasons. - So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish

To quote Agent Smith from the Matrix: "Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet."

And it's true. We destroy our surroundings so that we can live, and once it's too ruined, people usually move on to a new area. The only other thing that does that is a virus.

Exactly.

Beavers build enough to easily survive and it's all done without polluting or wrecking the planet beyond repair. Humans don't care about what's needed, they care about what's wanted. Hence why we've turned the Earth into a patient with a terminal disease.

-AC

"Special?"
I don't know what that means in this context?
Does it mean we have the right to destroy forests, habitats for thousands of species, so we can keep expanding like a tumor in the biosphere?
If that's the case: No. We are not special.
Does it mean we choose to care for the sick and disabled, as opposed to killing them or letting them die, the way nonhuman animals do? If that's the case: Yes. We are special.
Does it mean needing to eat, breathe and spawn? No. Not special.
Does it mean being able to know what is happening mathematically at the far end of the universe, or being able to ponder the infinite? Yes. Special.
Does it mean mortality? Not special.
Does it mean awareness of mortality? Special.
Does it mean knowing fear? Not special.
Does it mean being able to produce something like the Sistine Chapel, or better yet, contribute to a website like KMC? Special. Very special.

Originally posted by Lana
To quote Agent Smith from the Matrix: "Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet."

And it's true. We destroy our surroundings so that we can live, and once it's too ruined, people usually move on to a new area. The only other thing that does that is a virus.

Are you implying that animals are superior to viruses?

Originally posted by Echuu
yes but the fact that we have the intelligence to make weapons to defend ourselves from these animals and defeat them has to count for something.

Not really. Because we are using our assets. As a bear uses it's claws and teeth, we use our brain. That makes us smarter. That does not make us superior.

Originally posted by Echuu
And it's not just intelligence.. what about creativity, love etc.

Other species have exhibited love and creativity. I will admit it is a limited creativity, but there are examples of creativity and problem solving in the animal kingdom.

Also, many animals have exhibited the ability to form emotional attachements. In fact, other animals that do that often show more loyalty as a species than humans are capable of showing. Does that not make them superior to us by your own thinking?

Originally posted by Lana
To quote Agent Smith from the Matrix: "Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet."

And it's true. We destroy our surroundings so that we can live, and once it's too ruined, people usually move on to a new area. The only other thing that does that is a virus.

That being said, and I agree with that that, Is it OK to assume that:

The less humans on the planet =
The less consumption =
The longer the resources will last =
Wars and killings are justified for the sake of the humans race longevity on the earth.

This has been on my mind for a long time so I am wondering really if the human progress on this planet has contributed to our environment's retrogression hence a potential effect that can kill us and the rest of the animals off.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Not really. Because we are using our assets. As a bear uses it's claws and teeth, we use our brain. That makes us smarter. That does not make us superior.



Other species have exhibited love and creativity. I will admit it is a limited creativity, but there are examples of creativity and problem solving in the animal kingdom.

Also, many animals have exhibited the ability to form emotional attachements. In fact, other animals that do that often show more loyalty as a species than humans are capable of showing. Does that not make them superior to us by your own thinking?

Fine... we suck and animals are better than us.

Originally posted by Echuu
Fine... we suck and animals are better than us.

Equal,...not better.

Originally posted by Echuu
Fine... we suck and animals are better than us.

No.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Equal,...not better.

Yes.

Originally posted by PVS
so we are superior because we build things? beavers build dams.
oh but we build really big super duper ultra mega things!!!

I like beavers

I think Animals are below me, at least on the food chain mmmmmm Burgers

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I think Animals are below me, at least on the food chain mmmmmm Burgers

If people place more value in claws and fangs and fur and surviving "on your own" in an enviroment then animals must be better assuming my comment is true.

However that said extinction for humans is obviously possible but we are more adaptable and able to survive much more with our ability to "reason." So if thats your biggest piece then humans are above animals. If not then I never understood why humans would stop from eating each other as we are our own weakest prey...........seriously a little kid or a deer.............who knows.....

The day a donkey or a cow creates a Nuclear Fusion Reactor then I'll consider Humans to be animals. Until then...humans rule.

Originally posted by debbiejo


Throw in PMS and you'd eat your kids and mate too..lol

LMFAO Deb! hysterical

Originally posted by soleran30
However that said extinction for humans is obviously possible but we are more adaptable and able to survive much more with our ability to "reason." So if thats your biggest piece then humans are above animals.

If that's the prerequisite,m survival that is, then rats and coxkroaches are far above humans.

The point of the thread seems to be getting lost. I am not asking whether people are better, equal or worse than animals, I am asking whether you believe humans ARE or ARE NOT animals as discussed in the first post.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The day a donkey or a cow creates a Nuclear Fusion Reactor then I'll consider Humans to be animals. Until then...humans rule.

so humans are able to barely provide for their own obnixiously disproportionate need for enery and resources. that makes us better?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The day a donkey or a cow creates a Nuclear Fusion Reactor then I'll consider Humans to be animals. Until then...humans rule.

There's only one human I consider superior....and he is fictional.....

Originally posted by Bardock42
There's only one human I consider superior

thank you for not saying "chuck norris"

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The day a donkey or a cow creates a Nuclear Fusion Reactor then I'll consider Humans to be animals. Until then...humans rule.

agreed!

Originally posted by PVS
thank you for not saying "chuck norris"

Haha....I said fictional....I mean Walker Texas Ranger.

ok, so what makes humans better is that we come up with wants, then structure our society so that we depand on those wants, thus becoming needs. then on top of those needs we create more wants. so we come up with crafy methods for which to expand our resource binge and allow us to continue to consume. this makes us superior....ok....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Haha....I said fictional....I mean Walker Texas Ranger.

Walker (p)ownz as most in the OTF would say!!!!!

Once again, the point of the thread seems to be getting lost. I am not asking whether humans are better, equal or worse than animals, I am asking whether you believe humans ARE or ARE NOT animals as discussed in the first post.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Once again, the point of the thread seems to be getting lost. I am not asking whether humans are better, equal or worse than animals, I am asking whether you believe humans ARE or ARE NOT animals as discussed in the first post.

Yeah well, but there won't be much oif a debate...well, until whob shows up.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Once again, the point of the thread seems to be getting lost. I am not asking whether humans are better, equal or worse than animals, I am asking whether you believe humans ARE or ARE NOT animals as discussed in the first post.

the problem is that the only argument against the idea is based on the idea that humans are superior, rather than simply different. so its unvoidable.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Once again, the point of the thread seems to be getting lost. I am not asking whether humans are better, equal or worse than animals, I am asking whether you believe humans ARE or ARE NOT animals as discussed in the first post.


Yes lol what is there to say about that yes they are or yes they aren't............as defined by science we are animals/mammals that really isn't a discussion.

I've seen whob lurking all day. I wonder why he is avoiding this thread?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
I've seen whob lurking all day. I wonder why he is avoiding this thread?

Yeah, funny, he'S on now....I guess he's going to post soon.

Originally posted by GCG
Joseph Merrick would disagree with you all, but that would be on a different basis.

Nice

Originally posted by KharmaDog
This sounds like a pretty basic question. But there are those that seem to think different.






Discuss.


The quotes you posted are going to be inherently wrong simply because they are from whobdamandog. Not because he is incorrect but because they were written by him.

Aside from this...

On an anatomical basis, yes, humans are indeed animals. We are mammals. We share the same basic needs and desires as the rest of the animal kingdom. In fact, we have the same basic systems that keep us running.

However, just because we are animals in that sense does not mean we are animals in a bestial sense. If anyone hadn't pieced it together, the quotes shown were written in response to the idea that humans are animals in the entire sense of the word.

With this thinking comes the idea that our higher mental functions do not separate us from beasts and make us men. Thus, we cannot control our most primal urges--such as sexual desire--and are subject to the whims of our most immediate stresses and wants.

What whobdamandog was (and is) saying is that by equating our sexual practices with those of animals, we are no longer distinguishable from them. An animal eating its mate, its young, or its feces is clearly not a human practice. However, these practices are (probably) instinctual, just as is the sex drive. By equating humans as being "just animals"--and by stating that homosexuality occurs in nature and thus is natural (not to spark another debate, but that was another focus of the post)--one cannot say that the aforementioned practices, if practiced among humans, are unnatural or wrong.

So, to summarize:

Yes, we are animals, but we have higher brain functions, separating us from them.

Originally posted by FeceMan
I'm going to regret this. I just know it.

No need, it was a well thought out, well expressed opinion.

Originally posted by FeceMan


The quotes you posted are going to be inherently wrong simply because they are from whobdamandog. Not because he is incorrect but because they were written by him.

Aside from this...

On an anatomical basis, yes, humans are indeed animals. We are mammals. We share the same basic needs and desires as the rest of the animal kingdom. In fact, we have the same basic systems that keep us running.

However, just because we are animals in that sense does not mean we are animals in a bestial sense. If anyone hadn't pieced it together, the quotes shown were written in response to the idea that humans are animals in the entire sense of the word.

With this thinking comes the idea that our higher mental functions do not separate us from beasts and make us men. Thus, we cannot control our most primal urges--such as sexual desire--and are subject to the whims of our most immediate stresses and wants.

What whobdamandog was (and is) saying is that by equating our sexual practices with those of animals, we are no longer distinguishable from them. An animal eating its mate, its young, or its feces is clearly not a human practice. However, these practices are (probably) instinctual, just as is the sex drive. By equating humans as being "just animals"--and by stating that homosexuality occurs in nature and thus is natural (not to spark another debate, but that was another focus of the post)--one cannot say that the aforementioned practices, if practiced among humans, are unnatural or wrong.

So, to summarize:

Yes, we are animals, but we have higher brain functions, separating us from them.

I agree; I like the fact that your conclusion is not arrogant. However, there is an inherent evil in separating our selves from nature, it appeals to the ego, and can lead to great suffering of animals.

We eat, breath, crap, pee, reproduce, work in a society, have differnet customs due to our geographic locations, fihgt each other, compete with one another, play with one another, are composed of the same internal organs, need blood to regualte our bodily systems, like most other living things on earth. What makes us different is that we can vocalize and record what we think. Our brains are also bigger when compared with our bodies than most other animals. These few differences are enough to totally seperate us from the animal kingdom? You'd be very uneducated and mislead if you believed that. No disrespect intended, though, it's just true.It's funny because these things do make us different but we use this knowledge to exploit our differences, or put ourselves on a pedestal, because of them. Without biological diversity our world could become a very unhospitable place for us, for a long time.

Originally posted by FeceMan


The quotes you posted are going to be inherently wrong simply because they are from whobdamandog. Not because he is incorrect but because they were written by him.

Aside from this...

On an anatomical basis, yes, humans are indeed animals. We are mammals. We share the same basic needs and desires as the rest of the animal kingdom. In fact, we have the same basic systems that keep us running.

However, just because we are animals in that sense does not mean we are animals in a bestial sense. If anyone hadn't pieced it together, the quotes shown were written in response to the idea that humans are animals in the entire sense of the word.

With this thinking comes the idea that our higher mental functions do not separate us from beasts and make us men. Thus, we cannot control our most primal urges--such as sexual desire--and are subject to the whims of our most immediate stresses and wants.

What whobdamandog was (and is) saying is that by equating our sexual practices with those of animals, we are no longer distinguishable from them. An animal eating its mate, its young, or its feces is clearly not a human practice. However, these practices are (probably) instinctual, just as is the sex drive. By equating humans as being "just animals"--and by stating that homosexuality occurs in nature and thus is natural (not to spark another debate, but that was another focus of the post)--one cannot say that the aforementioned practices, if practiced among humans, are unnatural or wrong.

So, to summarize:

Yes, we are animals, but we have higher brain functions, separating us from them.

Yes, well thought out. However, if we're all going to sit here and discuss whobs opinion, then let's do it in a relevant and fair manner. He says we are not animals because others used the argument that homosexuality is natual because it is observed in countless other species, beyond humanity. He then decided to equate homosexuality with pedophilia and a dog eating it's own shit. Sure, that would be one thing, if only those animals that exhibited homosexual characteristics were the ones raping kiddies and eating their own shit. However, that isn't the case. More over, there are no examples of pedophilia in nature, because pedophilia is a singularly human characteristic. One reason is that in human culture there is a difference between physical maturity and age of consent. However, there is no such difference in the animal kingdom. However, you never see an adult gorilla raping a baby gorilla. It's never been observed. But, homosexuality has been.

Humans are animals, yes.

Originally posted by Makedde
Humans are animals, yes.

well, guess that about wraps it up. KD, i think its time to request that the mods lock this thread. case closed

Originally posted by PVS
well, guess that about wraps it up. KD, i think its time to request that the mods lock this thread. case closed

Wait... Give it a week... The thumper still hungers..

Finally I have a chance to respond to this ridiculous thread..and let me say that everyone who posted on here attempting to equate human life to that of a dolphin, rat, cockroach, monkey, ...etc..has got to be one of the biggest twats ever to walk the face of the earth.

During the course of this debate..you all have actually managed to accomplish the following:

A. Demonstrated that not everyone who has an opinion should share it with the masses.

B. Made PETA look like a rational organization.

C. Proven that the terms prideful and foolishness should be used simultaneously when describing ridiculous opinions.

With that being stated let's look at the definition of what you all believe categorizes one as being an animal..



How many multicellular organisms of the wild do you know that have the ability to show compassion or to show mercy?

How many multicellular organisms do you know of the cook their food to rid it of impurities...or clothe themselves to cover their nakedness?

For those of you who don't believe that your life has any significance over that of a cockroach..I've included several links below...

http://www.ruiacollege.edu/animal.htm

http://www.nc3rs.org.uk/

Please do all of us who believe ourselves to be distinctly "human" a favor..submit yourself as a test subject in the place of the lab rats and animals currently used for scientific studies.

For those of you who do not choose to submit to such testing, and prefer to live like an animal in your day to day life, I suggest you save us "humans" the trouble of having to dispatch of you like we do of all the beasts...just a suggestion..interpret it as you will..

Regards,

who be da MAN..

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Finally I have a chance to respond to this ridiculous thread..and let me say that everyone who posted on here attempting to equate human life to that of a dolphin, rat, cockroach, monkey, ...etc..has got to be one of the biggest twats ever to walk the face of the earth.

During the course of this debate..you all have actually managed to accomplish the following:

A. Demonstrated that not everyone who has an opinion should share it with the masses.

B. Made PETA look like a rational organization.

C. Proven that the terms prideful and foolishness should be used simultaneously when describing ridiculous opinions.

With that being stated let's look at the definition of what you all believe categorizes one as being an animal..



How many multicellular organisms of the wild do you know that have the ability to show compassion or to show mercy?

How many multicellular organisms do you know of the cook their food to rid it of impurities...or clothe themselves to cover their nakedness?

For those of you who don't believe that your life has any significance over that of a cockroach..I've included several links below...

http://www.ruiacollege.edu/animal.htm

http://www.nc3rs.org.uk/

Please do all of us who believe ourselves to be distinctly "human" a favor..submit yourself as a test subject in the place of the lab rats and animals currently used for scientific studies.

For those of you who do not choose to submit to such testing, and prefer to live like an animal in your day to day life, I suggest you save us "humans" the trouble of having to dispatch of you like we do of all the beasts...just a suggestion..interpret it as you will..

Regards,

who be da MAN..

Your last 2 paragraphs really back up your whole argument too. I though you said humans are capable of compassion? On the contrary, you seem very keen to violent behavior.

Also, elephants, dogs, whales, and dolphins to name a few are capable of happiness, loneliness, excitment, frustration, and varying degrees of compassion. It's been proven. Not all animals are capable of these emtions, but there are quite a few.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Finally I have a chance to respond to this ridiculous thread..and let me say that everyone who posted on here attempting to equate human life to that of a dolphin, rat, cockroach, monkey, ...etc..has got to be one of the biggest twats ever to walk the face of the earth.

During the course of this debate..you all have actually managed to accomplish the following:

A. Demonstrated that not everyone who has an opinion should share it with the masses.

B. Made PETA look like a rational organization.

C. Proven that the terms prideful and foolishness should be used simultaneously when describing ridiculous opinions.

With that being stated let's look at the definition of what you all believe categorizes one as being an animal..



How many multicellular organisms of the wild do you know that have the ability to show compassion or to show mercy?

How many multicellular organisms do you know of the cook their food to rid it of impurities...or clothe themselves to cover their nakedness?

For those of you who don't believe that your life has any significance over that of a cockroach..I've included several links below...

http://www.ruiacollege.edu/animal.htm

http://www.nc3rs.org.uk/

Please do all of us who believe ourselves to be distinctly "human" a favor..submit yourself as a test subject in the place of the lab rats and animals currently used for scientific studies.

For those of you who do not choose to submit to such testing, and prefer to live like an animal in your day to day life, I suggest you save us "humans" the trouble of having to dispatch of you like we do of all the beasts...just a suggestion..interpret it as you will..

Regards,

who be da MAN..

Finally you have a chance to respond? You've beem on KMC for days since this thread started.

And that's all you write? I was expecting something with some grit, some teeth, maybe even a point.

sounds more like someone is attempting to take the animal part out and trade it in for "humanity."

Well, we certainly are not plants!
We have to eat, drink and breath to survive.(And by the way, some people do eat eachother, canabalism exist in parts of the world.)
People kill eachother too in all parts of the world.
We poop and pee.
We are not the only animals that have sex for pleasure, so do dolphins and some of the other primates.(we are primates too)
Look in the eyes of a baby gorilla and tell me you dont see a distance relative.
We have to survive the same way as the rest of the animals do. Sure we are (supposedly) so very much smarter than the rest of the anamals.... means nothing. Look how much smarter a chimp is than a frog.
We are simply the most intellectually advanced animal in the world.
So as you read this I have one more thing to say to you.....
YOU ANIMAL!!!

Originally posted by blackhat
Well, we certainly are not plants!
We have to eat, drink and breath to survive.(And by the way, some people do eat eachother, canabalism exist in parts of the world.)
People kill eachother too in all parts of the world.
We poop and pee.
We are not the only animals that have sex for pleasure, so do dolphins and some of the other primates.(we are primates too)
Look in the eyes of a baby gorilla and tell me you dont see a distance relative.
We have to survive the same way as the rest of the animals do. Sure we are (supposedly) so very much smarter than the rest of the anamals.... means nothing. Look how much smarter a chimp is than a frog.
We are simply the most intellectually advanced animal in the world.
So as you read this I have one more thing to say to you.....
YOU ANIMAL!!!

You are officially my friend. I especially liked how yo pointed out that we poop and pee. It's true!

You mentioned how we can see a resemblance of ourselves in primates and I think that is very true. There is a poster of a baby chimp or bonobo at the zoo in the city where I stay and every time I see it it reminds me of my cousin Ray. Everytime.

No, we're plants.

Originally posted by BackFire
No, we're plants.

Originally posted by blackhat
Well, we certainly are not plants!
We have to eat, drink and breath to survive.(And by the way, some people do eat eachother, canabalism exist in parts of the world.)
People kill eachother too in all parts of the world.
We poop and pee.
We are not the only animals that have sex for pleasure, so do dolphins and some of the other primates.(we are primates too)
Look in the eyes of a baby gorilla and tell me you dont see a distance relative.
We have to survive the same way as the rest of the animals do. Sure we are (supposedly) so very much smarter than the rest of the anamals.... means nothing. Look how much smarter a chimp is than a frog.
We are simply the most intellectually advanced animal in the world.
So as you read this I have one more thing to say to you.....
YOU ANIMAL!!!

You right dolphins are smart..

flipper was a damn smart..I'd gladly sacrafice my life and the life of ten human to save one life of a dolphin as smart as flipper...

Monkeys are damn smart to..we are the same as them you know..we swing on trees like the moncheechees..and pick lice off of each others bodies and eat it...

We also build nuclear reactors..monkeys do that too..we are the same as all animals in the animal kingdom...

Finally you all are starting to make some sense...

your only means of putting humans above animals is "der we build nukular rectors!!!111"

yeah that makes sense. because lord knows a dolphin or monkey could use a nuclear reactor. and lord also knows that you know how to build one.

the only reason we have such 'accomplishments' is because of our own wants/needs. its all self serving. so because animals have no need and are not dependant on man made bullshit, they are inferior? your logic astounds me.

animals have a place in nature, in the food chain, and nature is dependant on them. they have a purpose, without having to convince (fool) themselves of it. humans are worthless self serving hairless apes who's minds have evolved to the point of both genius and allout insane delusions of grandeur, which we see here.

Originally posted by PVS
the only reason we have such 'accomplishments' is because of our own wants/needs. its all self serving.

You right monkeys can build houses and stuff and go to business to if day applied demselves...

see...

http://www.espn.go.com/i/magazine/new/careerbuilder.jpg


http://www.futilityinfielder.com/monkey.jpg

HAAHAHAHAHAH


now that you said it though, remember who was the first american in space...

no answer whob?

looks like you better avoid this thread for a while

Originally posted by PVS
no answer whob?

looks like you better avoid this thread for a while

You got me dere..I remember da monkey created da spaceship that got him into da space...

Originally posted by PVS
no answer whob?

looks like you better avoid this thread for a while

http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/issues/05_04/images/space-monkey.jpg

He a damn smart monkey..monkey been goin in space 4 a long time..day build spaceships and know sign language 2

a chimpanzee named "ham" was the first american in space.
no, he didnt build the rocket...but neither did alan shepard if im not mistaken.

Originally posted by PVS
a chimpanzee named "ham" was the first american in space.
no, he didnt build the rocket...but neither did alan shepard if im not mistaken.

yes he did build da rocket!! Read da book below..you'll c how da monkey billt the rocket..


http://images.oldglory.com/product/015868CTAFc.jpg

funny...took a few posts for me to realise that you are consciously typing like a retard, as opposed to the rest of the time when you inadvertently type like a retard.

Originally posted by PVS
funny...took a few posts for me to realise that you are consciously typing like a retard, as opposed to the rest of the time when you inadvertently type like a retard.

yeah I don't never type as well as pvs...you da best typer on dis here threads..!!

Wait, so...I have a genuine question.

There are people in this thread actually trying to deny that we are animals?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Wait, so...I have a genuine question.

There are people in this thread actually trying to deny that we are animals?

-AC


Yeah, cuz we're plants.

Come on, BF. I asked a serious question.

Leaf if out.

-AC

Trust me, my answer is no more idiotic than a sincere one you'll hear.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Come on, BF. I asked a serious question.

Leaf if out.

-AC

Yes, Whob is under the impression that human beings are not part of the natural animal kingdom. He believes we stepped fully formed from the power and imagination of baby jesus.

This ranks high on my KMC Scale-o-Idiocy.

-AC

You just have to shrub your shoulders and get on with it.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This ranks high on my KMC Scale-o-Idiocy.

-AC

Can...can I see this scale?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Wait, so...I have a genuine question.

There are people in this thread actually trying to deny that we are animals?

-AC

I think this sums up everyone's points on why we humans are no different than a cockroach, dolphin, etc..

Much thanks to Captain Fantastic for the quote:



So in summary..




The proof is in the pudding.

Good night everybody..

Fin.

I personally think that sometimes you do have substance to your posts, Whob. The fact that you act like a complete and utter child who refuses to accept when he is wrong kind of overrides that, though.

That coupled with the fact that you don't think humans are animals.

-AC

Originally posted by whobdamandog
I think this sums up everyone's points on why we humans are no different than a cockroach, dolphin, etc..




Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This ranks high on my KMC Scale-o-Idiocy.

-AC

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Much thanks to Captain Fantastic for the quote:

You're welcome.

As long as we're all pollen in the right direc...are we still doing the plant puns?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
As long as we're all pollen in the right direc...are we still doing the plant puns?


I don't think WE ever were...but go on.

I think everything just rather off topic and petal-ulent.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I think everything just rather off topic and petal-ulent.



Genuine, genuine shit.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You just have to shrub your shoulders and get on with it.

Nice.

Talking about metaphors......."Let us pray for world peas"..........Coming from a vegetarian..........lol

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Genuine, genuine shit.

Shit? As in fertiliser? Also good.

-AC

Animals ftw! yay

my girl says i'm an animal in the sack, so i guess i'm an animal

Originally posted by debbiejo
Talking about metaphors......."Let us pray for world peas"..........Coming from a vegetarian..........lol

No-one was talking about metaffers, debbie.

At least stay on the correct off-topic topic.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
No-one was talking about metaffers, debbie.

At least stay on the correct off-topic topic.

Holy shit.

What the hell??????......so what.....besides you spelled it wrong VVD.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Talking about metaphors......."Let us pray for world peas"..........Coming from a vegetarian..........lol



AC Yours did kind of suck..petal...ulant? You can do better than that. Now if you don't mind I'll go back to my harsh criticisms while contributing no puns or anything else of substance to this thread. I'll come up with something...

It was meant to suck, that's the point.

This is going nowhere soil leave.

-AC

My metaphor was better, that's all.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Talking about metaphors......."Let us pray for world peas"..........Coming from a vegetarian..........lol

Well, then again, you are a "vegetarian" that eats meat......besides, you killl Birds for your sick pleasure, not even eating them.

Originally posted by debbiejo
What the hell??????......so what.....besides you spelled it wrong VVD.

Not according to Ted Maul.

Originally posted by debbiejo
My metaphor was better, that's all.

A) It wasn't a metaphor.

B) Nobody was saying any metaphors.

-AC

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, then again, you are a "vegetarian" that eats meat......besides, you killl Birds for your sick pleasure, not even eating them. I only kill evil things...........so?

Still a vegetarian 80%.........Still counts.

Originally posted by debbiejo


Still a vegetarian 80%.........Still counts.

It doesn't, does it?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Not according to Ted Maul. Hmmmmmmmmmm....

Still not the correct spelling....

Lettuce be happy............


And yes it does.............

He spelled it wrong on intention, Debbie. Jesus.

Out of curiousity, why does 80% vegetarianism still count to you?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He spelt it wrong on intention, Debbie. Jesus.

Out of curiousity, why does 80% vegetarianism still count to you?

-AC Why not?.........who made the rules............yeah, and "spelt".........

Originally posted by debbiejo
Why not?.........who made the rules............yeah, and "spelt".........

Then surely everyone is some percent vegetarian?

Bit of a strange view of it.

Did I say strange? Meant cretinous.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Then surely everyone is some percent vegetarian?

Bit of a strange view of it.

Did I say strange? Meant cretinous. "I know when I've been insulted, I know when I've been insulted"

Lucy......Peanuts.

STFU -pvs

Im 100% vegetarian cept when it comes to meal time, Then I'm 0%...

don't be silly debbie... Your either a veggy or not... You can't have your hamburger and eat it...

Originally posted by KharmaDog

"Dogs will from time to time attempt to eat their own defication..

Are we to equate these behaviors to that of humans...again bud..I don't think so."

Discuss.

What about scat?

Originally posted by PVS
i hear the distant thumping of a bible growing increasingly louder.

That's the sound of certain people assuming the thread is entitled "are animals human" rather than "are humans animals".

I agree. Animals. Yeah. Our hair is a plant though. Teeth? They're fish.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It was meant to suck, that's the point.

This is going nowhere soil leave.

-AC

I still got nuttin...