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These are some of the strongest beings in Marvel & DC who aren't Cosmic being Level. There will be no powers just a fight. No Flying


Marvel Team
Drax with Power Gem
Champion with power gem
Bannerless Hulk
Mangog
Kurse
Gladiator
Count Nefaria
Fin Fang Foom
Magni
Thanos

vs

DC Strongest
Superman
Wonder Woman
Captain Marvel
Darkseid
Solomon Grundy
Doomsday/One K.O
Lobo/One K.O
Orion
The General
Black Adam

DC BABY!!!

Marvel to much raw power.

Two people on Team Marvel each has a power gem so I'd say they win.

Drax with Power Gem
Champion with power gem
Bannerless Hulk
Mangog
Kurse
Thanos

These 6 alone are enough to take two DC characters at a time. Fing Fang Foom can possibly take two as well, seeing as though he's matched strength with Hulk.

they cant do much to the General. its pretty much a stalemate.

The General has at best moderate strength compared to other so called class100s. Thanos easily beats most of these and Fing Fang Foom has powerful magic as well as strength. Darkseid only problem but ultimately matched by Thanos, Champion or Bannerless Hulk with Drax

Personally id take out Wonder Woman for Despero.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
they cant do much to the General. its pretty much a stalemate.

The General is completely regenerative and almost indestructable, He is able to go toe to toe with Supes and the JLA at once. Its a stalemate.

yup he is awesome. and i really think it is unfair to give two of marvel's fighters Power Gems. thats just biased. you should at least take the gems away.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
yup he is awesome. and i really think it is unfair to give two of marvel's fighters Power Gems. thats just biased. you should at least take the gems away.

Or let Supes Sundip

Darkseid has continuum control, he's enough of an advantage

kurse is a monster, wat is he 3 times stonger than thor or something?

Why do the Marvel guys get power gems?
Then it says no cosmics, then the Marvel team has Thanos.

DC should have Captain Marvel with the magical boost and Superman sundipped.

Darkseid will take half of the marvels aout with omega effect before he dies

no powers invloved with this fight.

Originally posted by Juntai
Why do the Marvel guys get power gems?
Then it says no cosmics, then the Marvel team has Thanos.

same reason why dc have darksied

In that case dc wins because most of the marvels have a base strength increased by their other powers

Originally posted by spideycarnage
kurse is a monster, wat is he 3 times stonger than thor or something?
More like four times. Anyways, I see things matching up like this:

Drax with Power Gem - Doomsday/One K.O
Champion with power gem - Orion
Bannerless Hulk - Solomon Grundy
Mangog - The General
Kurse - Darkseid
Gladiator- Superman
Count Nefaria - Wonder Woman
Fin Fang Foom - Captain Marvel
Magni - Black Adam
Thanos - Lobo/One K.O

And, yeah... I could see Black Adam taking Magni and Wonder Woman taking Nefaria on skill, but otherwise DC is boned. And yes, the General has decent healing, but I've seen him get a chunk blown off his arm by a friggin exploding batarang. Even if Mangog tearing him to pieces won't put him down, he won't be beating Mangog either, so it's an eternal stalemate. And, when the rest of team Dc is taken down... well, I chalk that up as on overall win.

Originally posted by Pepito
In that case dc wins because most of the marvels have a base strength increased by their other powers true true.

i think golem wanted the heros and villians in this fight just to use their strength, no powers like flying, eye lazers, blasts, super speed ect.

How strong was Magni in the comics? If they were following mythology he should be dozens of times stronger than Thor.

Originally posted by The Ion
How strong was Magni in the comics? If they were following mythology he should be dozens of times stronger than Thor.
I don't think he ever did anything incredibly impressive. Mainly, I think, because he didn't have too many appearances.

Hey what happen to the juggernaut? you can't leave out juggie in a strength match.

Don't underestimate Nefaria.

Remember there is no powers just a fight so Thanos Cosmic powers Darkseid Omega Beams Mangog powers etc etc. Alright I will leave Drax with the Gem but Champion is written well a being with Incredible fighting ability and Incalculable strength

The reason I didn't put Juggernaut in this fight is because of his unmatched Stamina and Durability

Originally posted by Khellendros
And yes, the General has decent healing, but I've seen him get a chunk blown off his arm by a friggin exploding batarang.

But they explode with the power of Big Bang...

i'll say it again, (superman and darksied put there diffrences aside and tag team one marvel hero at a time, while the rest just pile in, DC BABY! WOO HOO!

well in that case kurse and thanos can do the same thing to the dc crew.

Juggernaut drops in and takes 'em all out! (sorry having a moment)

ha ha ha.....

DC. They have Darkseid. Darkseid has the Anti-Life Equation. He blips them from existence.

I say Drax with the Power Gem Kurse Champion beats them all

Well yeah you specifically said no cosmics yet you give nearly have the team of Marvel cosmic/herald level beings. Mangog held Odin prisoner for heaven's sake.

However you outwitted yourself by giving the DC team Darkseid as you were unaware of his recent upgrade. And a righteous upgrade too.

Kurse would break his back

Champion would break his back

Drax would break his back

Originally posted by Draco69
Well yeah you specifically said no cosmics yet you give nearly have the team of Marvel cosmic/herald level beings. Mangog held Odin prisoner for heaven's sake.

However you outwitted yourself by giving the DC team Darkseid as you were unaware of his recent upgrade. And a righteous upgrade too.
He didn't outwit himself. He said no other powers. Meanwhile 2 Marvel characters have power gems while DD, Darkseid and Lobo have their trademark abilities removed.

Oh well, we know that Superman is strong enough to break down time/space by swinging his fists now. lol.

Originally posted by The Ion
He didn't outwit himself. He said no other powers. Meanwhile 2 Marvel characters have power gems while DD, Darkseid and Lobo have their trademark abilities removed.



Does that mean they lost there strength? Also I changed my mine and said Champion was without the power gem but that he was not jobber Champion he is still one of the strongest characters in Marvel comics and probably the best fighter to.

Marvel is just to strong for dc.

I'm gona get flamed for this but didn't it get stated that "superman" is one of the strongest, if not strongest beings in the universe! soooo YEAH BABY, pure strength wise, he'd kick ass on these guys, using his incredible invulnerablility, his uncalculable strength and also having been taught many stlyes from batman in fighting, I say you can't knock the man of steel in this fight... not when others can't use their POWERS on him and have to go toe to toe with a strength and will encumbered being.

Darksied as we love him has held his own against galactus, he never got owned by him, but he didnt beat him neither so really it was just a good fight.