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lets fukin have em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!
england! *clap clap clap*
england! *clap clap clap*
england! *clap clap clap*
england! *clap clap clap*

Originally posted by Deano
lets fukin have em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!
england! *clap clap clap*
england! *clap clap clap*
england! *clap clap clap*
england! *clap clap clap*

HAHAHA...here we go with the "we're going to win the world cup" crap that all the English telly pundits keep coming out with...as well as there little lap dog, the supposedly Scottish Alan Hanson

still...it makes the disappointment of getting pumped in a penalty shoot out all the more crushing when you actually believe you deserved to win

glad i'm Scottish and dont have such ridiculous expectations

to say england dont have a chance is insane

and i never said we was gonna win

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

better luck next time PERU

Peru 4 life

WE'RE IN!!!!!






even though we lost to England schmoll

Come on Wales.....

Originally posted by Clovie
WE'RE IN!!!!!






even though we lost to England schmoll

hahah better look next time

Originally posted by Deano
hahah better look next time
but Hey. we lost ONLY against England

and look at what?

better luck i meant to say..im tired*shrugs*

207 days till the world cup!!!!

HELLZ YEA


Im hosting it in KMC. In this thread.

Here are my teams to win the WC

Argentina (Always a power in WC, looking solid as of yet)
Brazil (if you have seen them in the confederations cup, or their friendlies, you would know why they are here)
Mexico (im not mexican but they have a very good team)
England (they still need to fix their lineups but they will be ready come June 06)
Italy ( if they can fix their defence they can go far)
Spain ( if they can fix their midfield they can go far)

I hope Brazil dosent win cuz, them winnin is borin, i hope Italy, England, or USA win. Im still pissed Peru didnt make it. Once i become pro, ill help em make it there!!!

202 days until the world cup

hopefully i will be driving by june 06. im gonna trek over to germany with some buddies. bash some german skulls in

iight good luck to england. My cuzin might invite me to the world cup germany event. Im just pissed that Peru didnt make it and that explains alot in my profile.

Group A:
Germany
Costa Rica
Poland
Ecuador

Group B:
England
Paraguay
Trinidad & Tobago
Sweden

Group C:
Argentina
Ivory Coast
Serbia & Montenegro
Netherlands

Group D:
Mexico
Iran
Angola
Portugal

Group E:
Italy
Ghana
United States
Czech Republic

Group F:
Brazil
Croatia
Australia
Japan

Group G:
France
Switzerland
South Korea
Togo

Group H:
Spain
Ukraine
Tunisia
Saudi Arabia




Thoughts?

C looks like the group of death this time. I think there might be a few surprises in Group E.

Czech Republic will survive Group E I do believe. Brazil will be walking over most of those teams.

-AC

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Group A:
1-Germany
2-Costa Rica
Poland
Ecuador

Group B:
1-England
Paraguay
Trinidad & Tobago
2-Sweden

Group C:
1-Argentina
Ivory Coast
Serbia & Montenegro
2-Netherlands

Group D:
1-Mexico
Iran
Angola
2-Portugal

Group E:
2-Italy
Ghana
United States
1-Czech Republic

Group F:
1-Brazil
Croatia
Australia
2-Japan

Group G:
2-France
Switzerland
1-South Korea
Togo

Group H:
1-Spain
2-Ukraine
Tunisia
Saudi Arabia

my predictions...

there will no doubt be a few surprises in the groups

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Group A:
Germany
Costa Rica
Poland
Ecuador

Group B:
England
Paraguay
Trinidad & Tobago
Sweden

Group C:
Argentina
Ivory Coast
Serbia & Montenegro
Netherlands

Group D:
Mexico
Iran
Angola
Portugal

Group E:
Italy
Ghana
United States
Czech Republic

Group F:
Brazil
Croatia
Australia
Japan

Group G:
France
Switzerland
South Korea
Togo

Group H:

Spain
Ukraine
Tunisia
Saudi Arabia




BRazil sure does have it easy

Group of Death is Group B

I think C and E both look incredibly tough. The USA aren't a great team, but they are well organised and will be tough to break down. Ghana also look like a decent team with an excellent midfield. Then, in group C the Ivory Coast could surprise a few people. Drogba and Dindane are both powerful forwards and their midfield is tough, too...

As for ol' England, we've got a reasonably good draw. Against Sweden, we'll probably draw. We should easily beat Trinidad & Tobago, which means it'll swing on how we kick-off against Paraguay...I think we should be OK.

Originally posted by El_NINO
BRazil sure does have it easy

Group of Death is Group B

wtf? group B is not even close to the worst group there

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Group A:
Germany
Costa Rica
Poland
Ecuador

Group B:
England
Paraguay
Trinidad & Tobago
Sweden

Group C:
Argentina
Ivory Coast
Serbia & Montenegro
Netherlands

Group D:
Mexico
Iran
Angola
Portugal

Group E:
Italy
Ghana
United States
Czech Republic

Group F:
Brazil
Croatia
Australia
Japan

Group G:
France
Switzerland
South Korea
Togo

Group H:
Spain
Ukraine
Tunisia
Saudi Arabia




Thoughts?

C looks like the group of death this time. I think there might be a few surprises in Group E.

AwW man i wuz gonna post that info in the world cup thread.

thats where it should of been posted

Got this info in ESPnsoccernet- World cup 2006 FIFA WORLD CUPtm Wall chart

Group A Group B Group C Group D

Ecuador Paraguay Argentina Mexico
Costa Rica England Serbia & Montenegro Iran
Poland Sweden Netherlands Portugal
Germany Trinidad & Tabago Ivory Coast Angola


Group E Group F Group G Group H

Italy Brazil South korea Spain
Czech Republic Croatia Switzerland Ukraince
United States Japan France Saudia Arabia
Ghana Australia Togo Tunisia

Group A game:

June 9- Germany Vs Croatia
June 9- Poland vs Ecuador
June 14- Germany Vs Poland
June 15- Croatia Vs Ecuador
June 20- Crotia Vs Poland
June 20- Germany Vs Ecuador

Group B games:

June 10- England Vs Paraguay
June 10- Trinidad and Tabago Vs Sweden
June 15- England Vs Trinidad and Tabago
June 15- Paraguay Vs Sweden
June 20- England Vs Sweden
June 20- Paraguay Vs Trinidad and Tabago

Group C Games:

June 10- Argentina Vs Ivory coast
June 11- Serbia and montenegro Vs Netherlands
June 16- Argentina Vs Serbia and montenegro
June 16- Ivory Coast Vs Netherlands
June 21- Argentina Vs Netherlands
June 21- Ivory coast Vs Serbia and Montenegro

Group D Games

June 11- Mexico Vs Iran
June 11- Angola Vs Portugal
June 16- Mexico Vs Angola
June 17- Iran vs Portugal
June 21- Iran Vs Angola
June 21- Mexico Vs Portugal

Group E Games

June 12- Italy Vs Ghana
June 12- USA vs Czech Republic
June 17- Italy Vs USA
June 17- Ghana Vs Czech Republic
June 22- Ghana Vs USA
June 22- Italy Vs Czech Republic

Group F

June 12- Australia Vs Japan
June 13- Brazil vs Croatia
June 18- Brazil Vs Australia
June 18- Croatia vs Japan
June 22- Brazil Vs Japan
June 22- Croatia Vs Australia

Group G Games

June 13- France Vs Switzerland
June 13- South Korea Vs Togo
June 18- France vs South Korea
June 19- Switzerland Vs Togo
June 23- France Vs Togo
June 23- Switzerland Vs South Korea

Group H Games

June 14- Spain Vs Ukraine
June 14- Tunisia Vs Saudia Arabia
June 19- Spain Vs Tunisia
June 19- Ukaraine Vs Saudia Arabia
June 23- Spain Vs Saudia Arabia
June 23- Ukraine Vs Tunisia

Round sixteen- June

June 24- 1A Vs 2B
June 24- 1C Vs 1D
June 25- 1B vs 2A
June 25- 1D vs 2C
June 26- 1E Vs 2F
June 26- 1G vs 2H
June 27- 1F vs 2E
June 27- 1H vs 2G

Quarter finals

June 30- W49 Vs W50
June 30- W53 Vs W54
July 01- W51 Vs W52
July 01- W55 vs W56

Semi Finals

July 4- W57 Vs W58
July 4- W59 Vs W60

Finals
July 9- W61 Vs W62

Third place
July 8- L61 Vs L62

my picks for qualifying

group a: Germany and Poland

group b: England and Sweden

group c: Argentina and Holland

group d: mexico and portugal

group e czech republic and the US (italy will get ****ed over again...i have a feeling)

group f: Brazil and Australia

group g: France and Korea

group h: Spain and Ukraine

Argentina v Holland will be a raker of a game...cant wait for that

Brazil will most likely win it again though...hopefully by pumping England on the journey

me and a couple of mates watched the draw last night in the pub and were slagging off teams like Togo...until i said...Scotland aren't even in it so we cant say shit...kinda ruined the night

I have a feeling Ghana are gonna make some noise cos i kick ass with them on Winning Eleven or Pro Evolution for you Europeans. I just got this feeling.

They said there is a chance that we get out of group
at least we are not with England at last


oh..and I have a question... why have you written that we're playing with Croatia (in the group part..) if they're in the different group?

evrythin is mixed up

Originally posted by Clovie
They said there is a chance that we get out of group
at least we are not with England at last


You might face them again in the tournament. The winners and runners up of both Poland's and England's group will face eachother in the eights.

england will most probably finish second, therefore they will play germany, if of course they finish top

Im planning to go see a couple of matches. Maybe England, Italy or Brazil. Anyone else thinking about that, better get cracking on the tickets.

Originally posted by GCG
You might face them again in the tournament. The winners and runners up of both Poland's and England's group will face eachother in the eights. you had to tell me?

merging

197 days left util the world cup. Cant wait....

Originally posted by GCG
Im planning to go see a couple of matches. Maybe England, Italy or Brazil. Anyone else thinking about that, better get cracking on the tickets.

when do they go on sale?
where are you getting yours from?

just found out that you can purchase on the fifaworldcup website. they go on sale 2moro at noon. im gonna get tickets for the first 3 matches. if thats possible

iight thanx for the info deano

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/tickets/prices.html

just sent an application off for two tickets to see the england vs sweden game. hopefully everyone will come through fine.

Originally posted by jaden101
HAHAHA...here we go with the "we're going to win the world cup" crap that all the English telly pundits keep coming out with...as well as there little lap dog, the supposedly Scottish Alan Hanson

still...it makes the disappointment of getting pumped in a penalty shoot out all the more crushing when you actually believe you deserved to win

glad i'm Scottish and dont have such ridiculous expectations

must be great being shit at a sport...

Originally posted by jaden101
HAHAHA...here we go with the "we're going to win the world cup" crap that all the English telly pundits keep coming out with...as well as there little lap dog, the supposedly Scottish Alan Hanson

still...it makes the disappointment of getting pumped in a penalty shoot out all the more crushing when you actually believe you deserved to win

glad i'm Scottish and dont have such ridiculous expectations

From what I've seen, England have a pretty good chance if they keep their heads. And according to all my friends, they have the best midfield in the world. If all goes well for em, they'll make it to the semis and get whupped by Brazil.

I reckon we could pull through our group. Italy are dead and gone now, all their best players have retired or faded away. If we play with speed we could take em. I've never seen Czech Republic play before, but I did some research and found they very rarely perform well on the big stage.

I think the Italians have plenty of good players (Del Piero is playing well, Pirlo and Gattusso are pretty consistent, and they have a very good striker in gilardino imo) , they just need to be in the mood to actually produce something... same goes for Holland and Portugal...

England are always over-hyped (Beckham is possibly the most overrated player in the world, Gerrard can blow hot and cold, thats assuming he's fit... Lampard is really the only top class midfielder they have imo, and the defence? shaky as hell...), though they should get out of their group at least...

I just hope the refereeing is better this time around, after the shambles in the last world cup...

The spaniards also should get their act together, and with this being held in europe i think the time is right for a european side to win it again...

england have got the best defence in the world. i would definetly play carragher instead of neville. and plus when ash cole is back, the defence will look even better.

best in the world? are you joking?

campbell is a clumsy oaf, ferdinand is asleep half of the time, neville while being experienced is prone to mistakes, and ashley cole? please... if not for his pace he'd be ripped to shreds in every match...

carragher is solid, and i like john terry when hes not cheating... but best in the world? come on...

Originally posted by pr1983
best in the world? are you joking?

campbell is a clumsy oaf, ferdinand is asleep half of the time, neville while being experienced is prone to mistakes, and ashley cole? please... if not for his pace he'd be ripped to shreds in every match...

carragher is solid, and i like john terry when hes not cheating... but best in the world? come on...

on paper Italy have the best defence in the world, supported by the best defensive midfielder in the world (Gattuso).

England do have one of the best midfields in the world though... Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham and Cole... with the option to use Wright-Phillips, King, Carrick... definately one of the best, but on the other hand you again have to look to Italy haha - on paper also the best midfield in my opinion.

Gattuso, Totti, Pirlo, Camoranesi, Fiore

I prefer king as a centre half, as for beckham and joe cole, against the truly great teams i'm not so sure...

Originally posted by pr1983
best in the world? are you joking?

campbell is a clumsy oaf, ferdinand is asleep half of the time, neville while being experienced is prone to mistakes, and ashley cole? please... if not for his pace he'd be ripped to shreds in every match...

carragher is solid, and i like john terry when hes not cheating... but best in the world? come on...

well campbell is out of the picture. ferdinand is top quality at his best. i dont like neville, carragher and terry are class and so is cole who has improved vastly in his defence capabiltys.

only italys defence is as strong. but only nesta is world class for me. the rest are over half decent.

Originally posted by Df02
on paper Italy have the best defence in the world, supported by the best defensive midfielder in the world (Gattuso).



I've never understood that phrase, 'on paper'. If they can't do it on the pitch, there's no reason to rate them on paper. The Italians are consistently a massive let down each and every tournament, as are Spain. Both massively overrated.

Originally posted by pr1983
I prefer king as a centre half, as for beckham and joe cole, against the truly great teams i'm not so sure...

joe cole is becoming a world class player, and beckham has the quality to turn a match around in an instant, and his commitement is never in question

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I've never understood that phrase, 'on paper'. If they can't do it on the pitch, there's no reason to rate them on paper. The Italians are consistently a massive let down each and every tournament, as are Spain. Both massively overrated.

yeh thats true. both teams have the potential though. i think spain will do much better this year though

VIVA MEXICO!!!!!!!!!sombrero2

ORALE!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I've never understood that phrase, 'on paper'. If they can't do it on the pitch, there's no reason to rate them on paper. The Italians are consistently a massive let down each and every tournament, as are Spain. Both massively overrated.

well theyre all fantastic in their respective leagues, but fail to reproduce it on the international stage.

as for the Italy defence not being world class, Cannavaro, Nesta, Materazzi Zambrotta? all amazing defenders

Originally posted by Deano
england have got the best defence in the world. i would definetly play carragher instead of neville. and plus when ash cole is back, the defence will look even better.

Agreed

Originally posted by Df02
well theyre all fantastic in their respective leagues, but fail to reproduce it on the international stage.

as for the Italy defence not being world class, Cannavaro, Nesta, Materazzi Zambrotta? all amazing defenders

Some of the Italians have to be good in their respective league because they more or less all play in the same one. Some of them have to be the better ones.

Originally posted by Df02
well theyre all fantastic in their respective leagues, but fail to reproduce it on the international stage.

as for the Italy defence not being world class, Cannavaro, Nesta, Materazzi Zambrotta? all amazing defenders

How many more years can people go on citing the same players as world class for Italy though? I've been hearing people name Nesta for years, Cannavaro also.

It's not like Brazil where every year there's a genuinely phenomenal new prospect. They're naming the same players every year. When those players go, Italy will be worse than ever.

-AC

brazil need to sort there defence out. cos guarenteed there will be teams looking to play dirty and defensive against them and hit them on the counter.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How many more years can people go on citing the same players as world class for Italy though? I've been hearing people name Nesta for years, Cannavaro also.

It's not like Brazil where every year there's a genuinely phenomenal new prospect. They're naming the same players every year. When those players go, Italy will be worse than ever.

-AC

not really, they have Iaquinta, Luca Toni, Oddo, Fiore, Ferrari etc all coming through the ranks - and what with Nesta being young himself i don't think they have anything huge to worry about, nothing more than any other team anyway.

in my opinion though, one of the strongest teams for this world cup will be Argentina... everyone of their players seems to be at their peak - i just don't rate Crespo as international quality. i don't understand why they don't play Saviola consistently

i prefer crespo, he is more liekly to get you goals

I hope brazil dosent win the world cup. Im gettin tired of hearing them winning the world cup every time. Its time for a new champion.

I still think Brazil has a fair chance of winning it. However if France acts like a team again they could be good competitors. England could also become a revelation but for that they need to get a better goalie. When I take a look at the team Germany can field I see a very strong midfield and goalie but that's about it. Last but not least Netherland, they have a great team: young, a lot of scoring power, enough experience in defence and a very talented midfield yet for some reason they don't seem to do very well in the last few tournaments.

Originally posted by Fire
I still think Brazil has a fair chance of winning it. However if France acts like a team again they could be good competitors. England could also become a revelation but for that they need to get a better goalie. When I take a look at the team Germany can field I see a very strong midfield and goalie but that's about it. Last but not least Netherland, they have a great team: young, a lot of scoring power, enough experience in defence and a very talented midfield yet for some reason they don't seem to do very well in the last few tournaments.

are you serious haha?
better goalie?
have you actually seen Robinson play? he pulls off some of the most amazing saves match in match out, and i'm not ashamed to say he's one of the main reasons Tottenham are 4th in the league.
He has the some of best reactions i've seen from any goalkeeper period... shots from pointblank range into the top corner and he still manages to push it round the corner. Sure he stumbled twice in the league and cost us the win. (against Arsenal when we were 1-0 up, and he gifted Man Utd their goal...) but they're not massive discrepencies.

As for world cup winners... personally i see someone quite random winning it, perhaps South Korea

Oh and also not to mention the myriad of decent saves he produced against Argentina

well south korea are not gonna win it. someone like sweden might though. they are good enough

you do realise South Korea are better than Sweden right?

Originally posted by Deano
well campbell is out of the picture. ferdinand is top quality at his best. i dont like neville, carragher and terry are class and so is cole who has improved vastly in his defence capabiltys.

only italys defence is as strong. but only nesta is world class for me. the rest are over half decent.

his best? he's no nesta... and how often is ferdinand at his best? honestly? cole imo is a petulant little shit who uses his size to get alot of decisions thrown his way...

Originally posted by Deano
joe cole is becoming a world class player, and beckham has the quality to turn a match around in an instant, and his commitement is never in question

cole is a good way off being a world class player... as for beckham, commitment notwithstanding, its bottle that he'll need against the big teams, and i really don't know if he has said bottle...

for me, the best team is brazil... even with a weak defense, they still have ronaldinho (the best player in the world imo), kaka (the second best player in the world imo), juninho (best dead ball taker in the world imo, second only to maybe mijhailovic) and adriano (he's like rivaldo and ronaldo combined). i mean, sweet frickin jesus, if these guys perform no defence short of a brick wall (a very high one at that) will stop these guys...

i understand what vic is saying, but still, watching serie a and la liga every week and seeing what italian and spanish players can do is just amazing, but then they go to the big tournaments and make a balls of it... such a damn shame...

same goes for the dutch...

and i personally rate sweden over south korea, sweden have a couple of world class strikers in ibrahimovic and larrsson (if he plays), they're a match for england on a good day...

well beckham is the best dead ball taker imo. even if brazil do have some of the best players in the world, so what. other teams have quality players too.

the 3 most deadly brazillians are kaka, ronaldinho and adriano.
robinho is touch and go sometimes, you never know what to expect from him. and ronaldo isnt as good as he once was.

i think sweden are better than korea, you forget they have llungberg too.

so what? i'll bet you wouldnt say that about england...

and beckham still lacks the overrall contribution that someone like kaka provides... ive never seen beckham take it upon himself to win a game for england, madrid or united, ive seen kaka do it several times for milan...

ive seen beckham do it several hundred times for man united. and several times for madrid. 1 match i remember was aginst barcelona. plus he has done it for england before. the greece match comes to mind.
but you dont rely on one player, it is a team game. and thats how you win things.
and if we do need someone to win a game for us single handedly, look no further then wayne rooney.

several hundred times? take a game by the scruff of the neck and win it for the team? can you name any?

the greece match was a free kick, and yes there was pressure, but it was still a free kick...

rooney is a class act, and englands biggest chance of winning the world cup imo...

i cant name mnay matches becuase i cant remember that far back. i only vaguely remember.

and as for the greece game... as john motson put it

'beckham as played greece on his own'

i actually watched that match, and credit to beckham, he played well... but is he a truly great captain, one who will drive the team by his own force of will? i dont think so...

england

Come one now, we all truly know that Brazil will be in the final at least.

IMO Brazil still has what it takes to win, and no kaka, ronaldinho, adriano are not the only players brazil have, they also have cafu, roberto carlos, roque jr, dida, and many more

Nah, not this time, i think there gonna get eliminated at the semi finals

Originally posted by El_NINO
Come one now, we all truly know that Brazil will be in the final at least.

IMO Brazil still has what it takes to win, and no kaka, ronaldinho, adriano are not the only players brazil have, they also have cafu, roberto carlos, roque jr, dida, and many more

cafu and carlos are growin old and not as influential as they was. dida is prone to make mistakes. and roque junior....i dont know why anyone would rate him highly

Well Finals will be Brazil and England, no joke and I dont even know Deano that good to be considered a friend.

Originally posted by El_NINO
and I dont even know Deano that good to be considered a friend.

where did that come from?lol

Those are my picks for WC finals

Ronaldhino, Kaka, Juninho Pernambucano, Adriano, Ronaldo, Robinho - yup... amazing attack force they have there.

now for the defence.... Lucio....

lucio attacks more then he defends

Originally posted by Clovie
WE'RE IN!!!!!






even though we lost to England schmoll

Not for long

Originally posted by Deano
cafu and carlos are growin old and not as influential as they was. dida is prone to make mistakes. and roque junior....i dont know why anyone would rate him highly

Dida's pretty good, he's agile. And that Cincinho dude is ''the new Cafu'' apparently. Anyway, we can trash talk the Brazilian defence all day, but it really won't bother them cos no matter how many goals they concede, they can usually score two or three more. At the least, quite often.

And I think the latest England can meet Brazil is the semis, so it'll be USA Vs Brazil in the final. Or Argentina, if they're lucky.

usa wont get to the final. unless they get lucky throughout the tournament.

Originally posted by Deathblow
Dida's pretty good, he's agile. And that Cincinho dude is ''the new Cafu'' apparently. Anyway, we can trash talk the Brazilian defence all day, but it really won't bother them cos no matter how many goals they concede, they can usually score two or three more. At the least, quite often.

And I think the latest England can meet Brazil is the semis, so it'll be USA Vs Brazil in the final. Or Argentina, if they're lucky.

have you seen the USA team/group
if they make the finals ill eat my hat

USA in finals ----->


USA out first round -------->

usa wont get out the group

I just love the World Cup ... it's the one venue where a developing country like Brazil can kick the butt of a G-8 country! I've always supported them, and they're just great to watch..they can field two quality teams with their lineup...but honestly I wish some other team would take the top spot. I support Spain as well, but if Raul and Xavi are still out by next year, and with the way they've been scraping their wins... well, good luck. Go Japan! Let's see some Asian country get far (fair and square if you know what i mean cough cough korea... )

Originally posted by Deano
england

typical...

i have to agree about the usa... and with the world cup in europe it favours the european nations imo...

just praying the dutch keep on good terms with each other... imo they can go far if they behave...

i think Japan or South Korea could do well... you ever watched the J-league? it's incredible sometimes... theyre such amazing shots, can hit the ball from half way line and it'll still be accelerating when it reaches the goal

the one thing the japanese (and most other asian nations) lack imo, is the ability to physically outmatch european and south american teams...

and i have watched the j-league, while some of the play is good, some of it is shockingly bad also...

the defending and goalkeeping on the whole is ****ing terrible... but some of the attacking play and accuracy/power behind their shots is stunning

Originally posted by Df02
are you serious haha?
better goalie?
have you actually seen Robinson play? he pulls off some of the most amazing saves match in match out, and i'm not ashamed to say he's one of the main reasons Tottenham are 4th in the league.
He has the some of best reactions i've seen from any goalkeeper period... shots from pointblank range into the top corner and he still manages to push it round the corner. Sure he stumbled twice in the league and cost us the win. (against Arsenal when we were 1-0 up, and he gifted Man Utd their goal...) but they're not massive discrepencies.

As for world cup winners... personally i see someone quite random winning it, perhaps South Korea

Yes I'm serious, not being brittish does give me the disadvantage of not seeing every game from the premier league. But look at the other teams their goallies (almost all of them -dunno about france- play champions league and play for big teams that kinda says something)

Originally posted by Fire
Yes I'm serious, not being brittish does give me the disadvantage of not seeing every game from the premier league. But look at the other teams their goallies (almost all of them -dunno about france- play champions league and play for big teams that kinda says something)

that says absolutely nothing haha...
ok lets see... you say a goalkeeper is crap when you've hardly ever seen him play, yet if you even took a glancing look at the premiership table and the accompanying Tottenham newspaper reports you'd see he's repeatedly declared one of the best goalkeepers in the league - and because you don't actually watch the premiership, ill give you a list of the type of keepers in the league... Petr Cech (int. no1)... Van Der Saar (int. no1)... Reina... Cudicini... Jasskeleinen.

Since you've practically admitted you've hardly seen him play (which i knew even before you posted this time...) you can't really go and say he's not a great goalie when he quite clearly is an amazing goalie - every Spurs match he produces world class saves, and if you ever watched a few matches he plays in you'll see that.

infact, go watch the Argentina - England match, he played really well there as well.

Also, Tottenham have Radek Cerny as their no2 goalie... the Czech no2 behind Petr Cech, and he's keeping him firmly on the subs bench even when, when i saw him play, Cerny was stunning as well.

Also... Tottenham happen to be 4th in the league and widly hinted as taking the last champions league spot for next year behind Liverpool Chelsea and Man Utd.
honestly, the only better keepers in the world, imo, are Buffon, Casillas, Cech and maybe Dida

I know tottenham is 4th in the league, I never said he was a bad goallie, I just said he is IMO the weakest link in the entire team. Why am I beginning to get the feeling that you are a Tottenham supporter.

It's all a matter of opinion, but you seem to be very defensive about this. I never said he was a bad goalkeeper I just said that I consider him to be the weak link in the english team.

the England fullbacks are the weak links... Rio Ferdinand is a weak link, Robinson is the strongest link in our defence bar Terry.

i'm not defensive, just don't understand why your picking up on the England goalie being a weak link when you have a choice between Lehmann and an old man for Germany goalie, Barthez and an unproven goalie for France, an off-form Casillas for Spain, Argentina have 2 really weak keppers as well in Abbondanzieri and Lux, even Italy have an injured Buffon to replace.

England have one of the strongest goalies in international football when you actually take the time to watch him play and compare it to the top competition.

the best goalkeeping selections in the world belong to Czech republic and Italy

that could be true

Anywayz since Belgium isn't qualified (stupid manager) I hope england wins it

Originally posted by Deathblow
And I think the latest England can meet Brazil is the semis, so it'll be USA Vs Brazil in the final. Or Argentina, if they're lucky.

Wow you guys really didn't get the sarcasm in that post huh.

Last 16 at the best for USA, and that's me at my most patriotic.

3rd place in the group at best

USA aren't a shit team, they just arent that good - i mean, McBride is ok, Beasley isn't bad and Landon Donovon is pretty good.

but seriously, the rest of their squad couldnt get a solid place in any premiership team let alone compete for world cup place.

how the **** FIFA worked out theyre the 7th best team in the world is completely beyond me, it seriously boggles the mind.
i mean when England played them they dropped 2 or 3 star players, but had a pretty full strength squad for our tour and we fielded....

well... i guess we played Beckham and Owen in the 2nd game, but that's about it... and even then our sheer squad strength meant we could beat em.

i mean, Carrick, Jenas, Smith, King, Defoe, Richardson etc are all quality players and will sadly never get a look in for the England places because we have such a strong midfield and strike partnership.

USA are a good team and they can get to the last 16 maybe further. They have always been hard to predict the same with Japan and Mexico.

they wont get to the last 16 im afraid

Im thinking theyll probably make it to the quarter finals like last time. Japan and Mexico are two good teams but if theyu were to be said to do very good in the world cup, i say they would probably make it to 16th round

how can they? they have italy and the czech republic. if they get a point out of those two games it will be a miracle

Originally posted by ThisIsALongName
USA are a good team and they can get to the last 16 maybe further. They have always been hard to predict the same with Japan and Mexico.

im sorry but there's absolutely no way theyll pick up enough points in the group stage to qualify.

Italy will beat them
Czech Republic will beat them.
and even if they beat Ghana (who are also a damn good team) they wont have enough points

well thats what ive been sayin rodge!!!

Originally posted by Deano
well thats what ive been sayin rodge!!!

i can see it going like this.

Italy vs CR = 1-3.... 1-1
Italy vs Ghana = 1-0.... 3-1
Italy vs USA = 2-0.... 1-1
Ghana vs CR = 0-4.... 0-2
USA vs CR = 0-2.... 1-3
USA vs Ghana = 2-2.... 2-1

CR 16pts
Italy 11pts
USA 5pts
Ghana 1pts

i'll have a crack


Italy vs Czech = 1-1
Italy vs Ghana =3-0
Italy vs USA = 2-0
Ghana vs Czech 3-0
USA vs Czech = 1-2
USA vs Ghana =2-0

italy - 7 points GD 5
czech - 7 points GD 4
usa - 3 points
ghana - **** all

Originally posted by Df02
i can see it going like this.

Italy vs CR = 1-3.... 1-1
Italy vs Ghana = 1-0.... 3-1
Italy vs USA = 2-0.... 1-1
Ghana vs CR = 0-4.... 0-2
USA vs CR = 0-2.... 1-3
USA vs Ghana = 2-2.... 2-1

CR 16pts
Italy 11pts
USA 5pts
Ghana 1pts
No way Czechs are finishing above the Italians. I know they have Cech, Nedved and Poborsky but they're the only decent players they have.

they have jarosik, baros, rosicky.

all class players at there best

Originally posted by Deano
how can they? they have italy and the czech republic. if they get a point out of those two games it will be a miracle USA beat Italy before in the past with the same team they are gonna use in the world cup. I dont know about czech republic, there probably gonna be first in there group

haha:

Hubscheman
Jankulovski
Nedved
Smicer
Poborsky
Rosicky
Koller
Baros
and ofcourse Petr Cech and Radek Cerny to choose between in goal

pretty decent squad in any book... but they always perform better than the sum of their parts as well, hence being the 2nd best team in the world behind Brazil

Originally posted by JacopeX
USA beat Italy before in the past with the same team they are gonna use in the world cup. I dont know about czech republic, there probably gonna be first in there group

the past my friend

I forgot about Rosicky and Baros. Ok I keep making it worse for myself. Czech Republic will probably go through but they won't top the group.

Originally posted by ThisIsALongName
I forgot about Rosicky and Baros. Ok I keep making it worse for myself. Czech Republic will probably go through but they won't top the group.

the thing you have to remember about Czech Republic is they always overperform... unlike most countries who are full of Superstars and underacheive.

They actually genuinely acheived their spot as 2nd best in the world, unlike USA who acheived their 7th position by playing and hammering the Dominican republic over and over, a country i was in for 4weeks and never saw a single football

In my opinion USA is underrated or atleast used to be. Half of the players I knew seem to have retired now like Pope, Lalas, Reyna, Friedel, O'Donovan, McBride. They were the truely good USA players although some of them are still playing it wasn't as good as they used to. Scotland actually draw with them when they had their best team out and USA didn't because it was a friendly.

they are underrated because they aint that good of a team. englands 2nd string side beat there strong team

USA is a good team but when it comes to big event such as the world cup, they get nerous. I seen it many times.

nervous is hardly an excuse.

i mean like i said before in this thread... we toured the Americas, played teams they play year in year out and won every game.

only difference, we played with our Bteam, and yea USA dropped a few key players, but still...

Originally posted by Deano
nervous is hardly an excuse. Well remember that automatic goal they made against Portugal in 2002? Jeff Agoos kicked it over himself to the goalie but the goalie didnt catch it and it went in the goal. I was thinking there was something wrong with them, something about them that wuznt right. Dont count this as being nervous though

Lacking communication isn't being nervous.

you think were gonna see germany do alot of these

http://www.world-of-smilies.com/html/images/smilies/sport/national.gif

yeh most probably agaisnt england in a penalty shootout

Who do you think is winning it? Runner-up? Third Place?

Well I have Holland and Brazil for the finals, with Brazil winning by a goal or two.

So:

Winner- Brazil

Runner up- Netherlands

3rd Place- England (over Italy)

already a thread on this mate.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Who do you think is winning it? Runner-up? Third Place?

Well I have Holland and Brazil for the finals, with Brazil winning by a goal or two.

So:

Winner- Brazil

Runner up- Netherlands

3rd Place- England (over Italy)
I (As a Dutchman) say,that you sir are a moron
There is NO way that Holland is ever going to make it to the finals with the way things are going right now...

Brazil for the win if they don't jammily get knocked out (which can happen).

I have a feeling that England are going to come dangerously close.

-AC

Already a thread, dogg

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f71/t381151.html

merging

exactly 100 days, 1 hour, 28 mins, and 45 seconds till the world cup

Originally posted by Slay
I (As a Dutchman) say,that you sir are a moron
There is NO way that Holland is ever going to make it to the finals with the way things are going right now...


stop being a cockhugger and elaborate.

if everyone on the england team played with as much commitment and passion as Rooney we'd be able to win it for fun

Originally posted by Df02
if everyone on the england team played with as much commitment and passion as Rooney we'd be able to win it for fun

England will never win it unless they start producing good defenders and good strikers

Originally posted by El_NINO
England will never win it unless they start producing good defenders and good strikers

John Terry, Ledley King, Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney...

any questions?

Originally posted by Df02
John Terry, Ledley King, Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney...

any questions?

Your right these are good players.

Now lets looks at Italy, Spain, heck even the US has a solid defence and they have at least 4 or 5 strikers that can produce. What I mean is England doesn not have a stable lineup. Some of these guys dont step up when the pressure is on. Lets be honest and agree that their qualifying group wasnt as hard as the first group. I would like to see England reach semis or if not the finals because the past 2 world cups they have done very well and are in form to reach the finals, but from the way they play to the formation of the lineup I dont see them really excelling.

Originally posted by Df02
John Terry, Ledley King, Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney...

any questions?

you forgot carragher and ferdinand

Originally posted by Deano
you forgot carragher and ferdinand

You know what nevermind... I will be here laughing my ass off when England lose in the World Cup... Especially when they lose to Sweden.

here's my prediction..

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b34/godscribe/worldcup.jpg

1. How the hell would Germany lose to sweden???

2. Ukarine would kick france's ass

Originally posted by JacopeX
1. How the hell would Germany lose to sweden???


Cause they have a dinosaur of a goalie. Oliver Khan had 10 goals scored against him in a week :

4 from Italy (Gilardino, Toni, De Rossi, Del Piero)

2 From Hamburg (Demel, De Jong)

4 from AC Milan. (Inzaghi x 2, Sheva, Kaka)

Lets face it; Khan should retire for the sake of Germany

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
here's my prediction..

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b34/godscribe/worldcup.jpg
I don't see Holland in the finals

Originally posted by JacopeX
1. How the hell would Germany lose to sweden???



can you read?? you ****ing dumbass.

Originally posted by Slay
I don't see Holland in the finals

oh, well that's too bad isn't it?

holland will no way go to the final.

i see argentina in the final


oh yeh..why aint you got argentina as progressing?!