Anakin Skywalker (ROTS) vs. Asajj Ventress (Obsession)

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Anakin Skywalker (ROTS) vs. Asajj Ventress (Obession)
Will Anakin defeat Asajj again or will it end differently this time around? The battle arena is the senate's meeting chamber where Yoda battled the Emperor. Anakin had to release his anger to defeat Asajj in the clone war cartoon but this time around Asajj is stronger then before.

MC Spartan
I think Assaj would take this, just because she grew more powerful and anakin only got a little better than in the first fight (clone wars).

Hello Friend
Anakin molests her.

tdtd
Are you kidding? Lucas himself said Anakin was at his peak in ROTS, especially when he turned to the dark side. Anakin would pwn Asajj

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I actually thought Asajj would give Anakin a pretty good fight.

Arker
Meh, he'd win by far.

Like Lucas said, "RotS is when you'll see Anakin at his greatest."

darthsith19
Lets see...
They fought, as you said, in the cartoon. It was fairly evcen, but in the end Asajj managed to gain the upperhand, but Anakin still won because of his anger.

Next time they fight, I believe, is in The Dreadnaughts of Rendili, Part 3 about 6 months before ROTS. Asajj is winning by quite a bit, but Anakin gives in to the Dark Side yet again, winning by a slim margin.

Asajj survives, and , in Obsession, overpowers Obi-Wan (knocking him out of the building) about 4 months before ROTS. She then takes on both Kenobi and Anakin at the same time, Neither is tryng to kill her and each successfully defend themselves against her. Later, when she tried to kill Obi-Wan from behind, Anakin nearly killed her yet again.


Anakin managed to defeat her in The Dreadnaughts of Rendili, Part 3, and she probablt didn't get much stronger between then and Obsession, since she was healing from her wounds the entire time. Anakin, however, grew alot stronger during the six months in-between The Dreadnaughts of Rendili, Part 3 and ROTS, strong enough, in fact, to take out Dooku. He won't need to use the Dark Side to take her out in this instance.

Kabia
anakin rapes her HARD,NO WAY she could win,as mentioned before Lucs said anakin would be his best in rots ,so assajj would lose big time

PurpleSaber
Asajj survived her fight with Anakin in the CW cartoon?

Wesker
Originally posted by PurpleSaber
Asajj survived her fight with Anakin in the CW cartoon?

Yeah. She supposively survived the Clone Wars themselves.

darthsith19
Originally posted by PurpleSaber
Asajj survived her fight with Anakin in the CW cartoon?
confused yeah...

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So does Asajj die in anything?

Arker
Yeah, she gets trapped in a rocket and sent off into space somewhere.

EDIT: Sorry, that was Durge. Nevermind.

Lörd Sorgo
Anakin would tear her apart.


I'll back it up later.

Darth_Glentract
Are you kidding? Asajj would give him a very tough fight. I'm to tired to provide proof now, so someone remind me to do so tomorrow.

Blaxican_Jedi
dpmt fprget to give proof tomarow.

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Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Are you kidding? Asajj would give him a very tough fight. I'm to tired to provide proof now, so someone remind me to do so tomorrow.

I am reminding you to provide proof on why Asajj would put up a tough fight against Anakin.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Are you kidding? Asajj would give him a very tough fight. I'm to tired to provide proof now, so someone remind me to do so tomorrow.

No, I'm not kidding.

Anakin would floor Asajj.

Dooku put her to shame, and Anakin managed to put Dooku to shame, not counting circumstance.

His skill improved dramatically from when he had first fought her.

Wait, didn't he literally smash her into a cliff in their first fight? Oh yeah, that did happen.

What makes you think he couldn't do it again using the Dark side to his fullest power this time around?

Asajj is a corndog and she gets her ass broken.

darthsith19
He wouldn't even need to use the Dark Side this time.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by darthsith19
He wouldn't even need to use the Dark Side this time.


Nah, he would.

He couldn't even defeat Dooku without it.

Hell, I don't think he has even ever defeated anyone of significance without having to get all in a hissy fit.

Captain REX
I agree with Sorgo.

darthsith19
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Nah, he would.

He couldn't even defeat Dooku without it.

Hell, I don't think he has even ever defeated anyone of significance without having to get all in a hissy fit.
Even before using the Dark Side he did as good, if not better, against Dooku than Kenobi did. Plus he did as good against the droids on the Invisible Hand as Kenobi did. I doubt he'd need the dark side if with the lightside he's even with ROTS Kenobi.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by darthsith19
Even before using the Dark Side he did as good, if not better, against Dooku than Kenobi did. Plus he did as good against the droids on the Invisible Hand as Kenobi did. I doubt he'd need the dark side if with the lightside he's even with ROTS Kenobi.

You mean in AOTC? No, he didn't. Who got their arm cut off again?

Him and Kenobi did equally good IF Kenobi didn't do better.

Remember the droid on the steps? Or the ones in the hangar? The flip he did? And Anakin just kind of walked out?


He'd need the Dark side. Hell, he fought with the Dark side when fighting Kenobi and STILL lost.


Please.

kamikz
Yes Anakin often needs the darkside when fighting, but he did better against Dooku than Obi-Wan did. It is clearly that he was toying with Kenobi, laughing at him and stuff. With Anakin, he was serious all the time and gasped of relife when he went down.

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Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
You mean in AOTC? No, he didn't. Who got their arm cut off again?

Him and Kenobi did equally good IF Kenobi didn't do better.

Remember the droid on the steps? Or the ones in the hangar? The flip he did? And Anakin just kind of walked out?


He'd need the Dark side. Hell, he fought with the Dark side when fighting Kenobi and STILL lost.


Please.

In case you didn't know Obi-Wan and Anakin battled Dooku again in ROTS and Anakin did a lot better then Kenobi in both of their battles.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by kamikz
Yes Anakin often needs the darkside when fighting, but he did better against Dooku than Obi-Wan did. It is clearly that he was toying with Kenobi, laughing at him and stuff. With Anakin, he was serious all the time and gasped of relife when he went down.

He wasn't toying with Kenobi. He made a leap to kill Kenobi and Anakin blocked it and then got his arm chopped off.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by ESB - 1138
In case you didn't know Obi-Wan and Anakin battled Dooku again in ROTS and Anakin did a lot better then Kenobi in both of their battles.

He did better in the final battle because Dooku let him.


And in the first battle, Kenobi walked out with ALL of his limbs.

kamikz
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
He wasn't toying with Kenobi. He made a leap to kill Kenobi and Anakin blocked it and then got his arm chopped off.

Yes he was. He was laughing at him and mocking him all the time, he was even smiling when they were in the saber lock, he knew exactly what to do against Kenobi. He said to Kenobi that he disappointed him. But to Anakin he didn't do any of this, he was very serious. And killing him when he just defeated him means he wasen't toying???????

Guy LeDouche
Really. Dooku was toying with him.

darthsith19
ROTS. He wasn't using the Dark Side against Dooku until after Dooku took out Obi-Wan, right?

Hmm, I suppose Kenobi did do a little better, and he did better against the Magnaguards, too.

Vader lost. Whether Anakin would or not is unknown. But Lucas said on the bonus dvd for the ot dvd set in the birth of the lightsaber that Anakin's stronger than Obi-Wan in ROTS.


And I mean Anakin was doing better against Dooku when he and Obi-Wan were fighting him 2 on 1.

kamikz
Originally posted by Guy LeDouche
Really. Dooku was toying with him.

There is more proof that he toyed with Obi-Wan, and there is little proof that he toyed with Anakin.

Hello Friend
Actually, it is logical to an extent.

Don't get me wrong, Anakin's a great duelist. But he's a 22 year old with 7 years with a lightsaber.

Dooku... was dedicated to swordsmanship. He spend 70 years perfecting Makashi, and he and Mace are probably the best duelists of the PT era.

yes, he was overwhelmed by grief during the fight on Mustafar, but I don't see that bringing him from above Dooku to lower than Kenobi.

Dooku: 9.8/10
Anakin: 9.3/10
Obi-Wan: 8.8/10

in dueling ability IMO.

Lörd Sorgo
ROTS. He wasn't using the Dark Side against Dooku until after Dooku took out Obi-Wan, right?

He had some grimacing expressions, but I think he got to the brink of his anger when Kenobi got owned.

Vader lost. Whether Anakin would or not is unknown. But Lucas said on the bonus dvd for the ot dvd set in the birth of the lightsaber that Anakin's stronger than Obi-Wan in ROTS.

Does anyone give a SHIT? Who walked out of the f*cking fight with their damn limbs still attached to their body?

LOL! ANIKAN IS POWERFUL!11

Good for him. Didn't help him keep his legs and arms, now did it?


And I mean Anakin was doing better against Dooku when he and Obi-Wan were fighting him 2 on 1.

They were doing quite equally before Dooku decided that he would just chuck Kenobi away.

He tried to get Kenobi away the first time by sending the Droids towards him on his first attempt to isolate Skywalker to make him utilize the Dark side. Kenobi eased through them so Dooku went into a higher gear and shit kicked Anakin and flattened Kenobi.

Before that all happened, they were pretty even fighting him.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by kamikz
Yes he was. He was laughing at him and mocking him all the time, he was even smiling when they were in the saber lock, he knew exactly what to do against Kenobi. He said to Kenobi that he disappointed him. But to Anakin he didn't do any of this, he was very serious. And killing him when he just defeated him means he wasen't toying???????

So you're saying if Anakin didn't block Dooku's hit, he would have stopped and laughed? No. Dooku would have slaughtered Kenobi.

Dooku wasn't serious with Anakin. He shocked him and then cut off his arm and let him live. He was letting them live for his grande Pillar finale at the end.

darthsith19
He didn't like Dooku but I don't think he actually used the Dark Side till later in the duel.

Wow, that really proved your case. And now your saying the movies are more official than Lucas. Were you one of the people participating in flaming Glentract because he said the same thing?

So why didn't he chuck Anakin away instead? He only got Anakin with one kick when they were fighting 2 on 1, he got Kenobi a few times.

kamikz
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
So you're saying if Anakin didn't block Dooku's hit, he would have stopped and laughed? No. Dooku would have slaughtered Kenobi.

Dooku wasn't serious with Anakin. He shocked him and then cut off his arm and let him live. He was letting them live for his grande Pillar finale at the end.

What are you talking about, of course Dooku would have killed Kenobi. I was talking about during their fight.

Anakin went on the offensive and pushed Dooku so much he actually had to fight. At Anakin he started off to act cool, "brave of you boy, but I thought you had learned your lesson" but during the fight he didn't say a shit, and he looked really serious while fighting him, but when he fought Obi-Wan he was laughing, smiling, talking and mocking Kenobi all the time.
Was he shocked during the whole duel? Look at them while they fight and you only see their faces (horrible scene), Dooku looks pretty serious.
Look at Dooku when he just cut of Anakin's arm and pushes him away, he looks tired and kinda off relifed.
I know most of my sources comes from their expressions and such, but I don't see where Dooku toys with Anakin, and a picture says more than a thousand words.

Dooku didn't know Yoda was coming, he had barley caught his breath when Yoda entered. But what has that to do with anything?

Don't get me wrong though, Dooku PWND Anakin's ass and he could have done it in ROTS, but it took him quite some time and it was much harder than taking out Kenobi.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by kamikz
What are you talking about, of course Dooku would have killed Kenobi. I was talking about during their fight.

Anakin went on the offensive and pushed Dooku so much he actually had to fight. At Anakin he started off to act cool, "brave of you boy, but I thought you had learned your lesson" but during the fight he didn't say a shit, and he looked really serious while fighting him, but when he fought Obi-Wan he was laughing, smiling, talking and mocking Kenobi all the time.
Was he shocked during the whole duel? Look at them while they fight and you only see their faces (horrible scene), Dooku looks pretty serious.
Look at Dooku when he just cut of Anakin's arm and pushes him away, he looks tired and kinda off relifed.
I know most of my sources comes from their expressions and such, but I don't see where Dooku toys with Anakin, and a picture says more than a thousand words.

Dooku didn't know Yoda was coming, he had barley caught his breath when Yoda entered. But what has that to do with anything?

It would be cool if you had a single clue of what you're talking about.

Too bad the Script knows more than you.

OBI-WAN uses the Force to catch his lightsaber and he
tosses it to ANAKIN. With TWO LIGHTSABERS, ANAKIN attacks.
COUNT DOOKU parries and ripostes. It's no contest. ANAKIN
is driven back against the wall.

Anakin couldn't catch up to Dooku even with a second Lightsaber, which he need because he had been having serious trouble with one.

COUNT DOOKU: You have unusual powers, young Padawan.


Dooku was more serious with Anakin because Anakin started getting mad and basically stunk of Dark side. Dooku liked it and may have seen something more. This is why he was more serious, but the fact it there wasn't a moment where Anakin had the upper hand. Oh wait! There was the suprise counter of Anakin saving Dooku.

That's about it. Then Anakin gets his arm chopped off. The end.

kamikz
It still took him a longer time defeating Anakin, and as you said he was trying harder then against Kenobi, so I've proven my point.

Numan
Kamikz is right.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by kamikz
It still took him a longer time defeating Anakin, and as you said he was trying harder then against Kenobi, so I've proven my point.

No, you haven't. You're trying to say Dooku had difficulties with Anakin which is bullshit.


You're proving only part of your point. The other half I put to shit.

kamikz
Yeah that's what I ment, that he did better than Kenobi, I was wrong about the other thing though. But if it was so easy for Dooku, why didn't he take out Anakin at once? He was carrying the death star plans.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by kamikz
Yeah that's what I ment, that he did better than Kenobi, I was wrong about the other thing though. But if it was so easy for Dooku, why didn't he take out Anakin at once? He was carrying the death star plans.

Did you hear what Dooku said? He saw Power in Anakin. Why would he kill someone who is so expendable and shows power?

kamikz
He could still have disarmed him faster, I bet he tried to take him out, even though Anakin's skills were far below Dooku's but enough to hold out for a while.
And in your previous quote you said that took 2 lightsaber cause he could barley handle Dooku, but they had fought for what, 3 seconds? Obi-Wan almost immdeietly tossed his lightsaber to him.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by kamikz
He could still have disarmed him faster, I bet he tried to take him out, even though Anakin's skills were far below Dooku's but enough to hold out for a while.
And in your previous quote you said that took 2 lightsaber cause he could barley handle Dooku, but they had fought for what, 3 seconds? Obi-Wan almost immdeietly tossed his lightsaber to him.



Anakin had the extra Lightsaber for assistance that obviously didn't work.

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Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
COUNT DOOKU: You have unusual powers, young Padawan

When did he say that?

Arker
AotC fight.

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Originally posted by Arker
AotC fight.

I just watched ATOC and the only thing I heard Dooku say to Anakin was "Brave of you boy; I'd thought you learned your lesson" or something like that.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by ESB - 1138
I just watched ATOC and the only thing I heard Dooku say to Anakin was "Brave of you boy; I'd thought you learned your lesson" or something like that.


Go look up ANY AotC Script available on the Net. You'll see it.

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Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Go look up ANY AotC Script available on the Net. You'll see it.
If it is just in the script and not the movies it isn't canon. It has to be in the movie or else it is just something Lucas wrote to see how it would work.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by ESB - 1138
If it is just in the script and not the movies it isn't canon. It has to be in the movie or else it is just something Lucas wrote to see how it would work.

. . . ?

Faunus
I actually don't remember that line, to be honest. But I do think it was in the comic and novelization.

ESB - 1138
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
. . . ?

That line was never said by Dooku.

Lörd Sorgo
OBI-WAN uses the Force to catch his lightsaber and he
tosses it to ANAKIN. With TWO LIGHTSABERS, ANAKIN attacks.
COUNT DOOKU parries and ripostes. It's no contest. ANAKIN
is driven back against the wall.




Anakin tried it with one Lightsaber and failed. He tried it again with two and still Failed... Even worse.


He was pwned. And no, he wasn't "beaten" or defeated, He was pwned.

Anyone who gets shocked across a room then shortly after gets their arm cut off for acting like a Moron is pwn3d.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by ESB - 1138
That line was never said by Dooku.

I know. You mentioned it earlier.

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Have you watched ATOC? Anakin had 2 lightsabers for like 2 seconds. The rest of the fight Anakin had 1.

Lörd Sorgo
Have you watched AotC?

Anakin had one Lightsaber for a few seconds before losing his arm.


By the way, their one on one in ROTS is longer than the one in AotC so saying Anakin lasted long is a line of shit. He got his ass handed to him.


OBI-WAN uses the Force to catch his lightsaber and he
tosses it to ANAKIN. With TWO LIGHTSABERS, ANAKIN attacks.
COUNT DOOKU parries and ripostes. It's no contest. ANAKIN
is driven back against the wall. He loses one lightsaber.
Finally COUNT DOOKU, in one flashing move, sends ANAKIN's
arm, cut off at the elbow, flying, still gripping his
lightsaber. ANAKIN drops to the ground in agony.

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Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Have you watched AotC?

Anakin had one Lightsaber for a few seconds before losing his arm.


By the way, their one on one in ROTS is longer than the one in AotC so saying Anakin lasted long is a line of shit. He got his ass handed to him.


OBI-WAN uses the Force to catch his lightsaber and he
tosses it to ANAKIN. With TWO LIGHTSABERS, ANAKIN attacks.
COUNT DOOKU parries and ripostes. It's no contest. ANAKIN
is driven back against the wall. He loses one lightsaber.
Finally COUNT DOOKU, in one flashing move, sends ANAKIN's
arm, cut off at the elbow, flying, still gripping his
lightsaber. ANAKIN drops to the ground in agony.

Anakin lasted longer then one second with 1 lightsaber because they went through the entire face only scenes in the fighting.

Lörd Sorgo
Originally posted by ESB - 1138
Anakin lasted longer then one second with 1 lightsaber because they went through the entire face only scenes in the fighting.


Uh... FTW?!?!?!

laughing

Wesker
Originally posted by ESB - 1138
Anakin lasted longer then one second with 1 lightsaber because they went through the entire face only scenes in the fighting.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4448/anidooku9td.gif

Here's Anakin "lasting".

PurpleSaber
Originally posted by Wesker
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4448/anidooku9td.gif

Here's Anakin "lasting".
ESB-1138 is right. Right after this scene, Anakin loses a lightsaber and then fights for like 15 seconds with Dooku. They really only show their faces in this fight though.

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