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Two pretty power being who wins

I know darseid was uber powerful during pre crisis, but what kind of feats did he do?

Pre-Crisis was powerful, but Scarlet Witch even more. She takes this.

Originally posted by golem370
Two pretty power being who wins

Chaos Wave FTW

scarlet witch for the win

LEVEL 18?

Bendis' Wanda takes this ... Fact is, she takes eveyone.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Bendis' Wanda takes this ... Fact is, she takes eveyone.

Does She? She doesn't control time or minds does she? Weak spots in her armor. I dont' think She beats people like Mxy or Abraxas. She seemed to only affect parts of the whole instead of everything at once. She probably can't take MJJ either.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Does She? She doesn't control time or minds does she? Weak spots in her armor. I dont' think She beats people like Mxy or Abraxas. She seemed to only affect parts of the whole instead of everything at once. She probably can't take MJJ either.
When Bendis is the writer she don't have any weak spots ...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
When Bendis is the writer she don't have any weak spots ...

Was she shown able to control time or have uber TP? did she fight any powerful beings? Side affects of her power dont' really count to me as on purpose actions or intricate use of said power. Can she resist her family line being turned into Dogs? Or A hi Tier telepath pushing her into madness? Did she show that she could traverse universes on her own? What would she do in a spiritual wrealm like the soul gem? What would she do if she were dumped in a nother universe? Did she show that she had the skill or power set to deal with things like these?

No more Darkseid, by by

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Was she shown able to control time or have uber TP? did she fight any powerful beings? Side affects of her power dont' really count to me as on purpose actions or intricate use of said power. Can she resist her family line being turned into Dogs? Or A hi Tier telepath pushing her into madness? Did she show that she could traverse universes on her own? What would she do in a spiritual wrealm like the soul gem? What would she do if she were dumped in a nother universe? Did she show that she had the skill or power set to deal with things like these?
Having Bendis write a story for Wanda is like having Kirby writing a story for Galactus or Darkseid, in comperasion to normal writers.

Wanda is above TOAA (the writer) if the writer is Bendis, yeah she simply have that much of a influence on him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Does She? She doesn't control time or minds does she?

Actually, she can control all of reality.

I think that trumps mind control or time control.

That, and her headdress is a +5 to will saves.

Originally posted by Artemis1860
Actually, she can control all of reality.

I think that trumps mind control or time control.

That, and her headdress is a +5 to will saves.

Who's giving people MajorArtifacts!?!?!? shakefist

Originally posted by Artemis1860
Actually, she can control all of reality.

I think that trumps mind control or time control.

That, and her headdress is a +5 to will saves.

I'm not sure anything trumps time control if it's absolute.

Originally posted by cyber tuff guy!
I'm not sure anything trumps time control if it's absolute.

Well, time is part of reality, and she did re-write an entire timeline.

Originally posted by Artemis1860
Well, time is part of reality, and she did re-write an entire timeline.

Several times.

However she lacked any sort of precise control over the warps

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Several times.

However she lacked any sort of precise control over the warps

True, but the whole battle could end with

"NO MORE JOBBER"

and then Darkseid poofs.

Though I'd rather Wanda said Respect My Authoritah! instead.

Originally posted by Artemis1860
Well, time is part of reality, and she did re-write an entire timeline.

Universal space/time is part of that Universal reality in fact it makes that reality up in many ways. Absolute time is outside of individual realities.

Originally posted by cyber tuff guy!
Universal space/time is part of that Universal reality in fact it makes that reality up in many ways. Absolute time is outside of individual realities.

If we were talking about real life, that would be a great point.

Comics don't operate the same way though.

Originally posted by Artemis1860
If we were talking about real life, that would be a great point.

Comics don't operate the same way though.

Well obviously and how comics operate in any given story is down to the writer and not the power set. So really any argument involving characters with high level powers really depends on who is written to strike first and if that first strike is fatal or power sapping or not.

Couldn't Darkseid just use his super speed and rip her head off before she can say "No more New Gods" or whatever?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Couldn't Darkseid just use his super speed and rip her head off before she can say "No more New Gods" or whatever?

She'd probably remake her head.

Hawkeye shot Wanda dead in the Heart with what he called was a "Kill Shot"


http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3770/w5yp3.th.jpg


Seems like she's dead:

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1153/w7sc2.th.jpg

Notice the arrows Position, right on the side of the Heart.

......................................................

Hawkeye came to KILL, READ the scan.


But she CAN'T Die . .arrow in her back deconstructs ... everything is as was:


"If I couldn't KILL you"...
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/605/w1vf2.th.jpghttp://img329.imageshack.us/img329/95/w2lq7.th.jpg

Hawkeye shot another arrow, almost immediately after the first:

THIS time ... Wanda KNEW it was coming, observe the difference now:

......................................................


Wanda breaks Hawkeye up into little blocks ... forget the arrow:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9418/w9cn5.th.jpg


IMO, based on the evidence as I see it,

Wanda was an absolute God within her Universal Warp.


It was also Her Power (unwittingly) that was collapsing the Omniverse,

not some "side-effect."

There's a big difference between being shot in the heart and having your head ripped off.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
There's a big difference between being shot in the heart and having your head ripped off.

Absolutely, but a major trauma to the heart can lead to instantaneous death.

Getting shot by Hawkeye with one of his specialized arrows, in Kill mode,
right in the heart, should be guaranteed death if you're susceptible to Mortality.

Also, Wanda was caught by surprise because Dr Strange was distracting her
with emotional guilt.


Still, the Arrow disassemble while inserted in her heart,

this means she must've remade her Heart at the same time,
or it doesn't matter cause she controls Reality
and the Arrow never had any real affect on her.

I don't think it matters much in this case. The only way I could see Darkseid winning is by sending the OE into the past and destroying her before she got this powerful. But I don't think temporal continuity matters to someone like her.

and for the record, time control wise, I think Cosmic Extant would beat her.

scarlet witch is to much for ds. this precriis ds was powerful but not this powerful.

HOM Wanda FTW

Darkseid for the win

This match does not start with wanda inside one of her reality warps or even using any powers, as soon as this match starts....its over for wanda

'No more Darkseid'