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wow.... Juggernaut would go down... very very hard....

nobody has more experience in a fist fight than Hercules.... the only one here ..he respects .. is the Hulk......

Hercules had the earth on his shoulders.....
pulled Manhatten with ease through the atlantic....

imagine... if these two would meet in midtown manhattan.....

Hercules .... Prince of Power, strongest force in the Universe (beside Hulk)

against... the aweseome menace called... the Juggernaut

Juggernaut here has an opponent he could not handle .. so he tries to grab the whole Empire State Building.... but has to less power to do this.... then Hercules would shown him, how to do... grabbing the whole Empire State Building and would thrown it on Juggernaut

Herc would then say: WAS THIS ALL .. ?... BAAAHHH.... WHERE IS THE HULK..... I NEED A REAL CHALLENGE.....

he would go away....

and half an hour later.... Juggernaut will come out of the wreckage of the Empire State.... and would be very very angry...


so Hercules... would defeat.. the Classic Juggernaut

Originally posted by Betageuze
wow.... Juggernaut would go down... very very hard....

nobody has more experience in a fist fight than Hercules.... the only one here ..he respects .. is the Hulk......

Hercules had the earth on his shoulders.....
pulled Manhatten with ease through the atlantic....

imagine... if these two would meet in midtown manhattan.....

Hercules .... Prince of Power, strongest force in the Universe (beside Hulk)

against... the aweseome menace called... the Juggernaut

Juggernaut here has an opponent he could not handle .. so he tries to grab the whole Empire State Building.... but has to less power to do this.... then Hercules would shown him, how to do... grabbing the whole Empire State Building and would thrown it on Juggernaut

Herc would then say: WAS THIS ALL .. ?... BAAAHHH.... WHERE IS THE HULK..... I NEED A REAL CHALLENGE.....

he would go away....

and half an hour later.... Juggernaut will come out of the wreckage of the Empire State.... and would be very very angry...


so Hercules... would defeat.. the Classic Juggernaut I think that herc is actuallyh stronger than about 98% of hulk's incarnations.

Herc is the only guy, who can match raw power with a total Mindless Hulk...

Herc has never matched Mindless Hulk in strength. He is not stronger.

Hulk can't knock out Juggs, neither can Hercules. Wheter it's a stalemate or either gets bored, but it's certain that Juggernaut won't be knocked out or killed.

i did not say that Herc is stronger than Hulk... but he can match him.... he is the only guy , whos physical strength comes very close to that of a total mindless Hulk....

and both guys... Hulk and Hercules... can of course knock Juggernaut of his feet.. and perhaps can knock him out...

Hercules physical strength is greater... than Juggernaut ones....

look at the stats on :

http://www.immortalthor.net/characters.html

Juggernaut is way below Hercules or Hulk

realize the facts

youre giving fake informations again who cares about thor sites only marvel sites matter

also Marvel site lists Hulk as the one .. with NO strength limits...

and Juggs has limits

so who is stronger ?

Hulk... thats for sure...

realize the facts maan..

Juggernaut might not be more powerful than Immortal Hercules, but Hercules still can't hurt him. There's not much Juggernaut can do either, Hercules is stronger (possibly), better at fighting and almost as durable..

marvel says in juggernaut biography upper limits has not known to his strenght and says to hulk Known superhuman powers: The Hulk possesses the capacity for nearly limitless physical strength. The gamma radiation that mutated the Hulk's body fortified his cellular structure and added, from some as yet unknown source, over 800 pounds of bone marrow and tissue to his body.
I GUESS YOU WERE LIEING AGAIN BUT EVERYONE IS USED TO THAT

to juggernaut6666... read correctly .. pleeeease :

"If i could read just one comic this whole year , issue 457 would be it.. this issue should end the juggernaut / hulk debate. if the absorbing man had not interfered, Hulk would have decappitated the juggernaut.. i think this proves .. HULK IS THE STRONGEST .. one there is..


you have to accept it: HULK IS THE STRONGER OF THE TWO

see betageuze who cares it was a fan post and hulk was enhanced by celestial technologie it would be like hulk vs trion (juggernaut)

Hercules strenght .. is immeasurable

Juggernaut is a 90.. perhaps 100 tons class guy.....

Hercules IS the more powerful of the two.. and of course... he can hurt Juggernaut

can you imagine..... an angry Hercules..... pounding on Juggernaut ?`

have you seen like he manhandled Mr. Hyde, Tiger Shark, Wrecker, Bulldozer, Piledriver and Thunderball ..at the same time...

Hercules has no fear of Hulk

Hercules is has put down Firelord with one clear fist (this was his left fist.. his right one is even stronger)

Hercules is stronger than Namor, the Sub-Mariner

did you see when juggernaut handled hercules well i have

please... when did Juggs handled Hercules ... ? when...

Stalemate.

STOP THE JUGGERNAUT MATCHES

Originally posted by grey fox
Stalemate.

STOP THE JUGGERNAUT MATCHES
You want them to stop, stop betageuze from making them just to spite juggernaut fans with his "great Knowledge"( full of $#@!)

As far as strength is concerned between all three of these guys it looks like this:
1) Mindless Hulk, Maestro Hulk, War Hulk
2) Hercules
3) Merged Hulk (or Professor Hulk)
4) Juggernaut
5) Savage Hulk
6) Calm Hulk (Green) who is well below both Hercules, and The Juggernaut in strength feats.
7) Mr. Fixit (Grey Hulk)
Note* All of these Hulk incarnations have the potential to be stronger than both Hercules, and the juggernaut depending on their excitement levels.


I know for a fact that the Mindless Hulk would crush Hercules in time as he manhandled him (The Incredible Hulk # 316) even with the help of Wonderman, Iron Man, Namor, and Doc. Samson, who are all near Juggernaut in Strength... had the fight continued it would no doubt be Hercules as his last opponent, and without the help of the rest of the Avengers Hercules was destined to go down.

As far as Juggernaut is concerned, he has a near impervious forcefield, but apparently Onslaughts body armor was given a similar rating, and we know what the Hulk did to his physical form, so Juggernaut loses as well.

If this was a fight between just the Juggernaut, and Hercules neither of these guys tire but one of them will begin to feel pain, and that would be Hercules.

Even though Hercules outclasses Juggernaut in sheer strength, this fight will go to the one with the better body armor, even Hercules would begin to feel Juggernauts fist, but I've seen Juggernaut sustain a direct hit from Thors hammer without being hurt or even fazed.

Unless someone can come up with substantial proof that Hercules can punch harder than Mjolnir can hit, I don't see Hercules even fazing Juggernaut, and unless Cain allows him to do so, this would be a classic case of plot induced stupidity, Hercules will fall just as he would from the beating that he would receieve from a mindless Hulk or even an amped up Savage or Maestro Hulk.

In my opinion juggernaut has all the tools to be a Hercules killer, in the same way that Spiderman's nemesis Venom is to him. The only way that hercules could beat a classic Juggernaut would be to fight him with agility and craftiness, but toe to toe, blow for blow, Cain will emerge the victor. Note* Trion Juggernaut went toe to toe with a very healthy Thor, and put him in a bearhug nearly breaking his back, had Thor not found a way out of this he would have been broken, i have never heard or read anywhere in marvel stating that Hercules was stronger than Thor, but I have read that Thor slightly edges hercules out in the Strenth division. I'll let you guy weigh the evidence, and if you are not in denial of the facts, then you will see what I do.
And by the way I'm a Pitt fan I'm not partial to any of the guys listed above, I'm just pointing out what was written, by the people who created, these characters.

Hulk Wins

hulk and herc has more raw power than juggy, but juggernaut does have more duribillity than both of them.

Betageuze...You just continue to the same stuff you did....You think you can make Juggernaut (The Classic) loose in a battle against Immortal Hercules....YOU NEVER LEARN....Classic Juggernaut cannot be knocked out, physically stopped (War Hulk stopped him, but he had no force field), or kill him in a physical combat. You try to give fake information about characters, tell lies and put your fanboyility near to wolverine8888's level, you never will be a respected member of this forum this way. A lot of people hate you already.

P.S. : I've never seen such a fanboy of Hulk and Hulk Killer Humanoid and a guys who just wants to hear Juggernaut goes down. The thing is you've lost...You can't admit that there are stronger characters than yours, and Classic Juggernaut is being as strong as he is....

Originally posted by grey fox
Stalemate.

STOP THE JUGGERNAUT MATCHES

Co-signed.

1. Betageuze and Jugg666 need to stop fighting. It got you both one temp ban, and it sure as heck will get you a longer one if it continues. If it's that hard, just stop posting in the others' threads.

2. I'm not sure who's the slower one here but I don't think anyone disagrees that Immortal Herc and Hulk are stronger than Juggernaut. They are...end of story. But Juggs' strong point has always been his durability. No one has ever really knocked him out except through telepathy.

That makes this an insanely boring match, and most likely a stalemate.

Realize this and stop with the Juggernaut matches (and HKH, and Hulk, and etc...), or I'll start closing them regardless of whether or not they're spite threads...and by that point, the threads closing will probably be the least of your concerns.

3. This will stay open for a while for all to read. In a day or so it'll get closed too.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
1) War Hulk stopped Jugernauts forward progress (Incredible Hulk# 456-457) in that comic that you mentioned.
2) The Hulk has beaten Thor more times tha he has lost to him (ref. The Incredible Hulk #440) and I must add that this was an intelligent, methodical Hulk that was throwing Thor around, not even a mindless one.
3) The Incredible Hulk # 402, 403 and, 404 The Hulk hits a Juggernaut that has a forcefield out withone mighty blow (and this was the Professor Hulk)
In The Incredible Hulk Future Imperfect why didn't Maestro say to Hulk when they met, why he did not know why they sent The Hulk back instead of Thor or some guy known as the Wildman, if he was this impressed with Juggernaut he should have said Cain instead. Thor is also a God this has not stopped Hulk from putting the beatdown on him right?
Anyways like I said earlier an amped up Hulk can beat the Juggernaut, unless Cain is stronger than Onslaught. but this isn't about Juggernaut and the Hulk it's about Hercules and Juggernaut.
but I'll leave you with this, can the Juggernaut do what the Hulk did to both teams of Avengers? And as far as the 1 million ton rock thing... do you remember what the hulk lifted in the Secret Wars? or what The Beyonder said? He said that The Hulk was an Infinity Power... even Cytorrak can't claim this.

when did Hulk defeat Onslaught?

Hulk didn't lift that mountain, he only supported one side of it, that takes a lot of the weight away.

Cyttarak cant claim what? Cyttorak also cant claim to be beaten by Spider-Man now can he?

Odin has never claimed to have unlimited power, but he can damn well defeat Hulk in a fight,

If I say my friend can bench 700 pounds, does that make it true?

Juggernaut was making a fool of Thor and he would do the same to Hercules

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Originally posted by CaptainStoic
1) War Hulk stopped Jugernauts forward progress (Incredible Hulk# 456-457) in that comic that you mentioned.
2) The Hulk has beaten Thor more times tha he has lost to him (ref. The Incredible Hulk #440) and I must add that this was an intelligent, methodical Hulk that was throwing Thor around, not even a mindless one.
3) The Incredible Hulk # 402, 403 and, 404 The Hulk hits a Juggernaut that has a forcefield out withone mighty blow (and this was the Professor Hulk)
In The Incredible Hulk Future Imperfect why didn't Maestro say to Hulk when they met, why he did not know why they sent The Hulk back instead of Thor or some guy known as the Wildman, if he was this impressed with Juggernaut he should have said Cain instead. Thor is also a God this has not stopped Hulk from putting the beatdown on him right?
Anyways like I said earlier an amped up Hulk can beat the Juggernaut, unless Cain is stronger than Onslaught. but this isn't about Juggernaut and the Hulk it's about Hercules and Juggernaut.
but I'll leave you with this, can the Juggernaut do what the Hulk did to both teams of Avengers? And as far as the 1 million ton rock thing... do you remember what the hulk lifted in the Secret Wars? or what The Beyonder said? He said that The Hulk was an Infinity Power... even Cytorrak can't claim this.


One or two things to settle. Juggy has beaten Thor easier than Hulk, Juggy got beaten by the Onslought without a physical body. Juggernaut has two Force Fields. One is about maximum 5 cms long, the one is what he charges up. In some comics he hasn't got the first one. The reason why Juggernaut can win is have you seen fight in full power or coz of he was gettin up to it? Not really he just made his way. Even versus the Hulk he never seemed to use all of his (neither Hulk). But let's just Hulk has too many versions which are makin' me sick, anyway I hate Hulk coz of his ugly colours and that he really is dumb chracter. Someone please close these Juggernaut vs. threads for a while please....It's makin not just me mad.

Well Thor has ko'd Hulk his fair share, go check the Thor respect thread out

Rather these guys should check the Thor comics out

If Thor couldn't put down Juggernaut even with his hammer Herc. sure as hell isn't gonna do it.

Juggernaut takes this.

Goes from being a tossup from an edge to Juggernaut. Hes way more durable.

And Herc matched the mindless Hulk before.

Originally posted by olympian
Goes from being a tossup from an edge to Juggernaut. Hes way more durable.

And Herc matched the mindless Hulk before. Can somebody post scans of Herc. matching Mindless Hulk? I only remember Herc. along with others getting pimp slapped by Hulk. Then another time mind controled Proffesor Hulk kicked Herc. and sent him for a ride. I may have missed one.

Juggernaut, 10/10.

Not only can Hercules not hurt him physically, Hercules also doesn't have any sort of Mjolnir plot device to fall back on.

No draining the Juggernaut of his mystical energies, here, .

Juggernaut wins.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Can somebody post scans of Herc. matching Mindless Hulk? I only remember Herc. along with others getting pimp slapped by Hulk. Then another time mind controled Proffesor Hulk kicked Herc. and sent him for a ride. I may have missed one.

Mindless:

http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc224&image=09074_byrne1.jpg
http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc212&image=09079_byrne2.jpg
http://img105.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc212&image=09085_byrne3.jpg
http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc210&image=09090_byrne4.jpg
http://img104.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc276&image=09095_byrne5.jpg

some Second round highligths:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5938/avengersih322b9ce4pd.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersih322c0am8wa.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersih322d5oz0jo.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersih322e2vk7yg.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersih322f7yf6st.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersih322j4xw3ac.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=herc23zh.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=herc11fe.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersih322m9na6oy.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersih322n4cq2nj.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=herc30en.jpg


Against mind controlled Savage Hulk:

http://img138.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc156&image=09100_hulkk1.jpg
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc143&image=09105_hulkk2.jpg
http://img107.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc147&image=09110_hulkk3.jpg
http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc161&image=09116_hulkk4.jpg
http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc120&image=09247_hulkk5.jpg
http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc229&image=09255_hulkk6.jpg

Prof Hulk:

http://img13.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc9&image=09261_juggs2.jpg
http://img129.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc130&image=09266_juggs3.jpg
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc190&image=09272_juggs4.jpg

Random:

http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc79&image=09256_incldhulk.jpg
http://img142.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc215&image=09257_incldhulk2.jpg

Savage Hulk:

http://img137.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc254&image=09277_ttast1.jpg
http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc269&image=09282_ttast2.jpg
http://img124.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc271&image=09286_ttast3.jpg
http://img18.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc30&image=09397_ttast4.jpg

Of all these, the worst showing of all, its the second round where he needed help, even tho in the first he appearantly didnt and featured moments like an old japaneze "Hulk Hunter" doing better against Hulk (who falls) than most Avengers. Hercules as seen its trown back but its one of the few who also injures Hulk the same way and leads the charge to his defeat.

Still, yeah its worse than the rest.

And:

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6240/championsgsh1cnt5.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/894/championsgsh1dzl3.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3240/championsgsh1ebw0.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2428/championsgsh1frd8.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7227/championsgsh1gel0.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3560/championsgsh1hxu3.jpg

In conclusion you forgot to mention that not only was he slapped against Mindless but that Hulk also got punched away and that while Prof Hulk kicked him, he was also punched down.

Those are all the figths they had without powerdowns.

Credits to Thorion and Jonathanos, And me.

Juggernaut will take Hercules 10/10. Hercules only edge would be skills but that only will delay his @sswhooping here.

guys, let me settle this once and for all





Hulk >>>>> Onslaught >>>>>>> Juggernaut

Originally posted by masterbruce
guys, let me settle this once and for all





Hulk >>>>> Onslaught >>>>>>> Juggernaut

Immortal Hercules should have immeasurable stamina and strength like Juggs, I say should if thats the case then AT best I don't see Hercules stopping him he just won't die.

Originally posted by masterbruce
guys, let me settle this once and for all





Hulk >>>>> Onslaught >>>>>>> Juggernaut

Oh wow. Just, wow.

Cosigned with Howard.

The Juggernaut will aLWAYS defeat the Hulk in forum battles, and the Onslaught saga was full of PIS and bullshit.

Originally posted by masterbruce
guys, let me settle this once and for all





Hulk >>>>> Onslaught >>>>>>> Juggernaut

Yet you wonder why people can't stand you...

Stupidity like that should get ANYONE bannned from the freaking internet..