Butch and Sundance

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LaurenE147
What were Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid's real names?

ToMacco
Paul Newman and Robert Redford?

greedo

LaurenE147
greedo wins!!!!!! So few people pay attention to that.

Ushgarak
Can anyone tell me what ACTUALLY happened to the man who was assumed to be Butch Cassidy? As in how he died?

(Bearing in mind, of course, that there is still no proof that the two Americans shot dead there were actually those two...)

greedo

LaurenE147
Sundance was never heard of again after that shootout. His letters to his sister stopped.

Butch's sister said he died of pneumonia long after the shootout. She could be a crazy woman overtaken by grief, but it brings up a lot of controversy.

Ushgarak
Be that as it may, my question is still unanswered.

LaurenE147
Your question is unanswered because nobody knows the truth. It's kind of like Anastasia. Thee ws a shadow of a doubt so they searched for her far and wide. Even though they did those blood tests on her body compared to the rest of the family and it was in fact her.

Ushgarak
I don't know what question you are answering, Lauren, but my question was asking what actually happened to the man that was assumed to be Butch. Which is perfectly well known seeing as there were about 100 witnesses. The mystery is whether it was Butch or not.

There is another Anastasia pretender who has just cropped up, actually.

greedo
What happened afterwards is the central myth surrounding Cassidy. Some claim he and Sundance were killed, others emphatically believe that another pair of outlaws were killed by the troops and that Cassidy and Longabaugh purposefully let it be known they had been killed. The oft-told stories relate that the pair returned to the West and lived out their lives under alias names and identities. Like many other Western figures, Butch Cassidy has become larger than life. His name still generates fond recollections from many Utah old-timers who love to tell stories about him. Whether he died in South America or died of old age under one of the several identities that are attributed to him may never be fully proven.

Unless a diary or actual child of the two came forth this will be one of those unsolved mysteries...rest in peace Butch and Sundance.

LaurenE147
I was answering your question. Nobody knows.

Ushgarak
You were NOT answering my question, Lauren! What is wrong with you!?

I asked- and I have REPEATED what I asked- what happen to the man who was ASSUMED to be Butch Cassidy! As in the one who died at the shootout. And like I say, over a hundred people saw that man die!

To make it clear- at the end of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, the two of them charge out towards the gynmen and are shot down. This is the film assuming that those two American bandits were actually Butch and Sundance.

But whether it was them or not, the point is that they did not die that way.

I am asking how did the man ASSUMED to be Butch die.

LaurenE147
He died. Duh.

Ushgarak
Sigh... HOW did he die?

LaurenE147
They shot him.

Ushgarak
No they didn't. That is something the film made up.

greedo
According to all I have read there were two men killed in a gun battle in Bolvia (whether they actually were BC & SDK or not two men died by gun shots).

http://www.boliviaweb.com/photogallery/images/photos/sanvicen.jpg

this is Saint Vicente where the two men were killed.

Here is a quote from their report...


or there is this



There is a lot more.........

Ushgarak
The important bit is that they killed themselves; there was no charge at troops outside. In fact, one eyewitness account says that 'Sundance' shot 'Butch'.

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