Batman Begins Sequel Wishlist

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braz
what yall wanna see in the new batman movie???



as for me,

1. Better fighting scenes, others were just waaayy too blurry even though i do understand that they were just trying to make it look realistic and show that he literally had to move that fast to take down 10 guys at once, but still....
2. More scenes on bruce wayne gaining his skills when he traveled the world to become batman, particuarly his detective skills
3. Insaaane Joker..maniac killer
4. More scenes of batman, it seemed like u hardly ever saw him in Batman Begins
5. Harvey Dent/Two-Face origins
6. Selina Kyle/Catwoman
7. More of Batman using his batarangs as weapons like did in the comics instead of just knocking out lights, as well as smoke grenades for distraction ect.
8. Scarecrow...again

thats all i can think of now...ill post late if i think of others

NoFate007
1. A more intelligent Bruce
2. More of a showcase of his detective skills
3. Harvey Dent to replace the "love interest" section of the film. If they MUST have a love thing going on, make it Selina Kyle and don't cast Angelina Jolie, her lips will take up too much of the screen. Cast Kate Beckinsale.
4. If Joker is the main villain, then have him at his best. If he isn't the main villain, don't put him in at all, and put him in #3. Don't shortchange Mr. J
5. Cameo by Scarecrow in the beginning, being captured.
6. More utility belt uses.
7. Better action sequences (film and editing, not content)
8. More of a loving relationship between Bruce and Alfred. They argued more than they should normally do.
9. No more explanation of previous things. That was what the whole first movie was about. He should be comfortable in his career by now.
10. Gordon to become Commissioner, or at least move up another rank.
11. More cameos of smaller villains and characters, like Lyle Bolton being a guard at Arkham, a Dr. Hugo Strange cameo, possible Dr. Harleen Quinzel cameo, maybe Summer Gleason.
12. A reference to Metropolis and Superman. Something small, like show a character reading the Daily Planet and one of the headlines being like "Superman blah blah blah".

That's enough for now.

atharpina
^basically everything he said, except I'd like the Scarecrow to have a pretty fair amount this time, not a lot but enough to count. In BB he was only actually Scarecrow for like a minute and I wanted to see him really terrorizing people with the fear toxin instead of just using it to take care of his business.

ManBat
wow.

Knightfall93
Originally posted by braz
what yall wanna see in the new batman movie???



as for me,

1. Better fighting scenes, others were just waaayy too blurry even though i do understand that they were just trying to make it look realistic and show that he literally had to move that fast to take down 10 guys at once, but still....
2. More scenes on bruce wayne gaining his skills when he traveled the world to become batman, particuarly his detective skills
3. Insaaane Joker..maniac killer
4. More scenes of batman, it seemed like u hardly ever saw him in Batman Begins
5. Harvey Dent/Two-Face origins
6. Selina Kyle/Catwoman
7. More of Batman using his batarangs as weapons like did in the comics instead of just knocking out lights, as well as smoke grenades for distraction ect.
8. Scarecrow...again

thats all i can think of now...ill post late if i think of others How long do you thinkt this movie is? 10 hours? Mr J shoud have a movie all alone. Ands no Joker origin please, Chris! Who's Lyle Bolton? a Clayface?

smiley8
Batman getting losing to the villain and then coming up and whipping his ass!!! oh and a really manic, crazy, deranged Joker wud be good!

Knightfall93
Smiley, i'm afraid I find some of your view hard to take seriously as you have a Batman forever avatar! But that's not really v. informative, your wish I mean...

NoFate007
Lyle Bolton was Lock-Up in the animated tv series, a villain that shouldn't be a villain on the screen, but it'd be cool to see him as pre-Lock-Up in Arkham.

atharpina
In the supposed Batman 5 script, Batman: The Frightening, Lyle Bolton had a pretty significant pre Lock Up role as Arkham's chief of security. Of course that movie never made the cut, but they could bring him in for the sequel to head security at the reformed Arkham, post Crane.

NoFate007
He's the perfect type of character that I'd like to see make a cameo. He doesn't need to be Lock-Up the villain, he can just be Lyle Bolton, head of security, like you said.

Think about how fast of a cameo this could be. Batman is talking to Gordon, Harvey Dent, and Dr. Hugo Strange about Crane after being captured. Strange says something that hints towards him being interested in Batman more than the people that come in here. Someone goes "Mr. Bolton, please escort Mr. Crane to his cell. (to Crane) Lyle here is going to take you away now Mr. Crane, everything is going to be alright." He comes in and takes Crane away. That simple, takes up 6 seconds of screen time.

Darth Jello
Things i'd like to see in Batman sequals:
1. Sean Penn as Joker with Mark Hamill providing the voice post transformation.
2. More emphasis on detective work.
3. Dannie Elfman's original score
4. Dick Grayson as nightwing, appearing as robin in a flashback or two but with no screentime as robin and with him obviously having a strained adverserial relationship with batman
5. A very dead Jason Todd Robin, possibly as the second movie's climax
6. A very talented and serious actress as Harley Quinn-Wynona Ryder or Kiera Knightley. I want to say Nicole Kidman but her height would create problems for shots with Sean Penn.
7. Jodie Foster as the Joker's wife
8.Jonny Depp as Edward Nigma

Knightfall93
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Things i'd like to see in Batman sequals:
1. Sean Penn as Joker with Mark Hamill providing the voice post transformation.
2. More emphasis on detective work.
3. Dannie Elfman's original score
4. Dick Grayson as nightwing, appearing as robin in a flashback or two but with no screentime as robin and with him obviously having a strained adverserial relationship with batman
5. A very dead Jason Todd Robin, possibly as the second movie's climax
6. A very talented and serious actress as Harley Quinn-Wynona Ryder or Kiera Knightley. I want to say Nicole Kidman but her height would create problems for shots with Sean Penn.
7. Jodie Foster as the Joker's wife
8.Jonny Depp as Edward Nigma 1) Sean Penn is way too short and that would sound artificial with a diubbed voice

2) Det. work is hard to show but OK

3) Elfman's score? That's be too repetitive and give the impression of dependence on B89

4) As Nightwing already? Dude, that is CRAZY and why would they fast forward time when Joker's already set upp nicely...

5) No no for Robins, Nolan has said it AND SO DO I, it'd kill the fab realism

6) Harley kills the realism and wouldnnt be Harley if serious... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

7) I can't bare a Joker origin, HE HAS NO OFFICIAL ORIGN AND MUST STAY THAT WAY!!!

8) Ed Nigma would be a good cameo (I wrote a cameo scene on scarecrow's batman escalation thread...) but Jonny Depp? I want EDd to be a SERIOUS character, not a gay prankster like Carrey...

PEACE OUT

NoFate007
I'd like to see Edward Norton as Edward Nygma (man that's weird to type) if they decide to throw in that specific cameo.

Knightfall93
who?

NoFate007
Edward Norton is an amazing actor, one of the actors that my generation is growing up with (I'm 18). His most popular roles were in American History X and Fight Club, but he's also done some other films that showcase other talents, like The Score and Primal Fear.

http://www.actustar.com/photos/nortonedward.jpg
http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Movies/9810/29/amer.history.x/link.edward.norton.jpg
http://www.stars2go.com/n/edward-norton/star.jpg
http://lavender.fortunecity.com/westside/177/norton8.jpeg

There's your Edward Nygma. The great thing about Norton is that besides being a fantastic actor, he's not a limited one. Jim Carrey made the Riddler, in my opinion, too off the wall and crazy. He seemed more insane and "funny" than he did intelligent. Norton plays a lot of people who are intelligent but also sort of naive, and I think he'd be perfect for it. He's not the type to go off the wall, but if a scene called for it, he would.

Knightfall93
He looks OK for it, I must have missed him... Im not really a filmFanatic. YAY, I DID AN AVATAR!

Darth Jello
actually he does, it's been established that the killing joke origin is pretty much accurate except that joker's wife was actually murdered and nigma was the only witness. His real name's also been revealed as "Jack"

Knightfall93
When, where and proove it

TMACalicious
Yeah Norton is a fantastic actor (quite underrated imo). He's spectacular in "25th Hour".

O and my wishlist: I jus wanna see a sequel that's as good as Begins. Simple.

smile

Kelly Renee
Originally posted by Knightfall93
1) Sean Penn is way too short and that would sound artificial with a diubbed voice

2) Det. work is hard to show but OK

3) Elfman's score? That's be too repetitive and give the impression of dependence on B89

4) As Nightwing already? Dude, that is CRAZY and why would they fast forward time when Joker's already set upp nicely...

5) No no for Robins, Nolan has said it AND SO DO I, it'd kill the fab realism

6) Harley kills the realism and wouldnnt be Harley if serious... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

7) I can't bare a Joker origin, HE HAS NO OFFICIAL ORIGN AND MUST STAY THAT WAY!!!

8) Ed Nigma would be a good cameo (I wrote a cameo scene on scarecrow's batman escalation thread...) but Jonny Depp? I want EDd to be a SERIOUS character, not a gay prankster like Carrey...

PEACE OUT

How is Harley anymore unrealistic than 'The League of Shadows?' *laughs* I think she'd fit in just fine.

My Wishlist-
Smarter Batman
Harley Quinn or Harleen Quinzel

jenzie
1: the first part of the sequel to involve batman chasing down "joker", capturing him, and incarcerating him in arkham ..... with a big chase sequence, like at the end of BB!

2: let "penguin" and "two-face" be the main protagonists ..... against EACH OTHER ("penguin" being the main villian, and harvey on the side of the law! until THAT little acid-on-face kerfuffle happy ) with batman helping harvey dent

3: dr harley quinn, or o'quinn, comes into it as a specialist, to deal with "joker"'s spiral into madness! at the end, she says that he ISN'T crazy, and reluctintly, let him go ..... and as he frolics outside, with his new squeeze ..... HERE COMES SCARECROW to mess him up permanently!!! she screams, he goes royally nuts, scarecrow falls off his horse, and batman? not very happy ..... CUE THIRD FILM!

4: NO catwoman, NO riddler, NO clayface (sorry, too similar to the sandman in SM3), and NO "joker" shooting barbara gordon (leave that for the third, maybe as the first bad thing that a SECOND "joker" does ..... a-la THE KILLING JOKE!)

atharpina
Not giving the Joker his own film? That's crazy.

braz
oh yea,

9. Not only better action sequences, but MORE action, cuz although Batman Begins was a very good movie, to be frank, it was rather boring at times

Knightfall93
No, it had loads of action and much more than B89

atharpina
Yeah, that whole Narrows riot sequence was intense. More intense than all the other Batman movies put together! At least, I think so...

braz
the action was ok, im just saying it couldve been better and there couldve been more.... its just pretty much throughout the whole first half of the film, it was only dialogue, but trust me, i loved that part about this movie and this is why i admire it so much more than the other batman films, it made it seem believable and answered all the questions which may come to mind in the other batman movies...where'd he get the batmobile?, the batsuit?, the gadgets?, why is he even called batman?? Begins answered all that and combined that with some raw emotion, a great storyline, decent action(little too blurry), & amazing drama which really captures u unlike the other batman films....regardless, still my fav movie i have ever seen in my life

Knightfall93
LOL, BB had more action than B89 by miles! What proper action scenes were there? batman with Vicky vale fighting Joker's goons in the streets and... the cathedral. thats about it!

braz
i also want there to be better martial arts directing and action scenes. particuarly making the action scenes more like the way they were portrayed in the blade movies. that would be really cool. thats the only thing i think thats been missing in all the batman movies are good action(martial arts particuarly) scenes.

Inspectah Deck
-Vivid discription of Jokers past

brainchild81
Originally posted by braz
i also want there to be better martial arts directing and action scenes. particuarly making the action scenes more like the way they were portrayed in the blade movies. that would be really cool. thats the only thing i think thats been missing in all the batman movies are good action(martial arts particuarly) scenes. Ditto. Big time.

kanis
devil More fighting scenes are a bonus but also so is a good plot, but shouldn't robin be introduced before they even think of batgirl or even if they give the bats a plucky sidekick.

MrHeavySilence
1) MOST IMPORTANT - An Intelligent Story

2) Smarter Batman

3) Three-Dimensional Characters

4) Cool Gadgets, but nothing too out-of-ordinary (such as the motherbox).

5) A Batmobile Chase Scene!

7) Better/More Spectacular Fight Scenes

HellMaster93
I agree fairly much... but the fight scenes in BBw were damn cool...

kanis
vampire I went on imdb and saw that christian bale, morgan freeman, michael cane and gary oldman have all come back for BB2

HellMaster93
YES!!!!

kanis
vampire But it doesn't mention what the plot is nolan must be keeping it extremely quiet more so than with the first film, when i watched the mtv movie awards bale said that (when he won the award for best superhero) that they were doing many more bat films.

HellMaster93
Indeed... we just know Joker is PROBABLY in it...

.:Space Opera:.
i pray that they put a different kinda twist on the joker, and make him something you dont really expect, but make it believable and fun.

HellMaster93
Oh God... I can just see the kind of nightmare twist... The Batman style... or maybe him being Falcone or something.... AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!

braz
oh yea. another thing i wanna see is a much bigger bat-signal. wtf was up with that tiny little thing at the end of Batman Begins?? mad

HellMaster93
It was fine... smile

NPC
Mine the comics for all they are worth for material to work with.
Year one
Death in the family
Killing joke
ect.
Mine the early 90's cartoon as well, some very good joker episodes.
There was one cartoon episode showing where he learned how to pick locks/escape methods an disappear quickly an quietly as a magicians apprentence.
Lets see some japanese training(kiodie) where he 1st learned his self defense techniques before the league of shadows an Ra. Maybe add some league of shadows/Ra training flashbacks of some stuff we didnt get to see in the 1st film as well.
Also I think the costume would look a 1000 times better if they made the mask not show his irisis just like the comic and make the mask eyes of his cowl blank white. Say its some sort of vision enhancement or something.
More gritty realism, an the joker had better be scary, evil, an menacing from the start.
If there is gonna be robin, make it like the kid tries to just join batman on his own without batman knowing an gets killed his 1st time out by the joker, that might work.

HellMaster93
LOL... yes!

office jesus
Originally posted by NoFate007
1. A more intelligent Bruce
2. More of a showcase of his detective skills
3. Harvey Dent to replace the "love interest" section of the film. If they MUST have a love thing going on, make it Selina Kyle and don't cast Angelina Jolie, her lips will take up too much of the screen. Cast Kate Beckinsale.
4. If Joker is the main villain, then have him at his best. If he isn't the main villain, don't put him in at all, and put him in #3. Don't shortchange Mr. J
5. Cameo by Scarecrow in the beginning, being captured.
6. More utility belt uses.
7. Better action sequences (film and editing, not content)
8. More of a loving relationship between Bruce and Alfred. They argued more than they should normally do.
9. No more explanation of previous things. That was what the whole first movie was about. He should be comfortable in his career by now.
10. Gordon to become Commissioner, or at least move up another rank.
11. More cameos of smaller villains and characters, like Lyle Bolton being a guard at Arkham, a Dr. Hugo Strange cameo, possible Dr. Harleen Quinzel cameo, maybe Summer Gleason.
12. A reference to Metropolis and Superman. Something small, like show a character reading the Daily Planet and one of the headlines being like "Superman blah blah blah".

That's enough for now.

With Returns out, yeah, I'd like to see a reference to ole' supes. And I agree with your point on Joker. If you're gonna' have him in there, do the character right, or not at all. Beckinsale as Selina? Sure. I'll go for that.

Alec Brood
Kate Beckinsale could do a great Selina Kyle. Catwoman with fangs...I like that.

smiley8
She's definitly got the figure for it!!

Alec Brood
And the elbow grease...(Tenacious D reference)

HellMaster93
LOL! laughing I'd go with Beckinsale... droolio

kanis
vampire I think they should make the bat points on the mask more pointer instead of the short ones he has in begins. Catwoman will work in the next batman ( if she's in it) only if they don't make her thieving skills due to some supernatural force.

Face
Confirmed!
Source: Warner Bros. Pictures July 31, 2006

As a follow up to last year's blockbuster Batman Begins, Christopher Nolan is set to direct Warner Bros. Pictures' The Dark Knight, written by Jonathan Nolan, based on a story by Christopher Nolan and David Goyer. The film will be produced by Emma Thomas, Charles Roven and Christopher Nolan. Additionally, Christian Bale will resume his role as Bruce Wayne and Academy Award nominee Heath Ledger has been cast as The Joker. The announcements were made by Jeff Robinov, President of Production, Warner Bros. Pictures.

Batman Beyond
i wish it took place like at least 3yrs after the first and i wish they had bane on their cause the bane on the other movie sucked.

coolmovies
I want to see a good joker just like the one in the first film !!

smiley8
I want the joker to be PURE evil!

Kelly Renee
I like the title..

coolmovies
I would like to see the batwing again

Mainstream
Originally posted by smiley8
I want the joker to be PURE evil!

yeah no goofy joker

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