Which Hulk incarnation is the most powerful?

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xtrubeastxcs
I think its down to Devil, savage, and guilt, but who gets it?

Sixth_Winged
dunno, probably either

uni-powered
mindless (onslaught saga)
Warhulk...having the power source of two dimensions and such.

Young Fats
savage

CaptainStoic
Mindless Hulk gets my vote. even for a comic he has done some pretty mean strength feats.

Mider
i say warhulk.

there is a uni power hulk?

UniOmni
Guilt. His mental manifestation was immense. Made Savage Hulk, who looks like a Giant to normal people appear to be cockroach sized. I hope they let him out in the physical plane. Wanna see him punch through dimensions and time.

vpokdekjyafmidp
wait, how big was savage?

Marcus4600
Guilt and Savage were only in his mind though. Physical reality, I'd say that Mindless Hulk is the strongest. Most dangerous would be savage, considering he has some idea of what's going on.

Sixth_Winged
Originally posted by vpokdekjyafmidp
wait, how big was savage?

he's the normal green hulk. probably around 7 or something.

anyway, mindless is pretty much savage hulk ++ w/o almost without intelligence

He reach instantly pissed off state extremely faster and shares savages infinite strength from rage.

vpokdekjyafmidp
Originally posted by UniOmni
Guilt. His mental manifestation was immense. Made Savage Hulk, who looks like a Giant to normal people appear to be cockroach sized. I hope they let him out in the physical plane. Wanna see him punch through dimensions and time.

so which hulk is that big?

Horrificus
What am I missing?

I thought the Maestro was several times more powerful than Professor/Hulk, and that Professor/Hulk was the one that cracked Onslaught's armor.

I thought Maestro was able to walk across the planet killing every superhuman. Plus, he is still a "Hulk", and can even get stronger.

Sixth_Winged
no it was mindless (tampered by jean grey) hulk who was able to do that against onslaught.

Horrificus
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
no it was mindless (tampered by jean grey) hulk who was able to do that against onslaught.

really?

i thought he was talking.

Sixth_Winged
he was till jean grey removed banner. and i think mindless is still capable of emotion and very very very very limited words

Mider
can savage pitch a pyramid as if it weighed nothing or stalemate juggernaut not likely not even bannerless hulk can dent surfer and juggernauts durability is above even galactus

xtrubeastxcs
Actually when mindless hulk destroyed onslaughts armour, which the entire earths heros couldnt scratch, onslaught let him because it was part of his plan to become a pure energy being, in which he would of been unstoppable if all the human heroes didnt jump into the energy, which is how onslaught was defeated

xtrubeastxcs
hulk has actually wiped juggernaut clean in a fight, especially since juggernaut lost the crystal of cykkrat or whatever

xtrubeastxcs
I think devil hulk or guilt hulk tho would be the most powerful in the real world, devil hulk is all banners evil and marvel has said he is supposed to be the most powerful incarnation.. but then y is guilt hulk so freaking tall? 63 feet!

soujaboy09
Originally posted by xtrubeastxcs
hulk has actually wiped juggernaut clean in a fight, especially since juggernaut lost the crystal of cykkrat or whatever

Please, please tell me when any Hulk has beat Juggernaut in a fight?

Well besides War Hulk, and even he wasn't able to cause pain to Juggernaut.

xtrubeastxcs
What am I missing?

I thought the Maestro was several times more powerful than Professor/Hulk, and that Professor/Hulk was the one that cracked Onslaught's armor.

I thought Maestro was able to walk across the planet killing every superhuman. Plus, he is still a "Hulk", and can even get stronger.


well maestro isnt an incarnation, he is a possible future of professor hulk gone wrong who not only had the intelligence of banner but strength equal to the savage hulk and it grew with his anger.

xtrubeastxcs
well im getting the whole hulk could beat up juggernaut thing from considering the hulk has kept up a 150 billion ton mountain from falling on the other heroes... well go figure

xtrubeastxcs
Besides even if the crystal of cykkorak made that big of a difference couldnt the hulk just get the helmet off... similar to wat the xmen used to just do... oops nevermind my bad, forgot that they did that so jean could attack juggernauts mind

Mider
well they say he can lift 100 tons yet that mountain weighted in the millions it was probably done to WOW the audience i mean he does do SUPER strong feats like this rarely he is always strong but there are times when he does something insanely strong like pick up thors hammer.

xtrubeastxcs
what dont u get about the hulks strength growing as he gets angrier? he can lift 90-100 tons while CALM, and he was pissed when he kept up the 150 BILLION ton mountain. He also has a healing factor greater than wolverines

soujaboy09
Originally posted by xtrubeastxcs
Besides even if the crystal of cykkorak made that big of a difference couldnt the hulk just get the helmet off... similar to wat the xmen used to just do

I can tell you dont know much about comics

xtrubeastxcs
yeah lol that was my bad, i forgot that the xmen did that so jean could attack juggys mind, my bad, but still THE 150 BILLION ton mountain and the healing factor. and no ur wrong i do know alot, but ur overestimating juggernaut and underestimating the hulk, btw juggernaut got knocked out by superman in one punch while hulk took 2...

xtrubeastxcs
Originally posted by soujaboy09
I can tell you dont know much about comics

i can tell YOUR the one who doesnt know much about hulk and that u r a huge juggernaut fanboy, i just forgot, i actually know alot, if u think im bad u should see the people that think the hulk can take superman because his arms r bigger...

soujaboy09
So you know more than me? ok so when was Juggernaut ko'd by Superman?

If you knew so much you would know that Hulk didn't lift the whole mountain on his back. He only supported one side, although that may be a great feat it wasn't 150 billion tons.

You would also know that in the 8th day saga Juggernaut, and Stonecutter were excerting so much physical force the earth nearly crumbled under them. Dont know how much force that takes, but im sure it's more than 150 billion tons.

Oh yea during that altercation, Juggernaut excerted so much physical force that he broke out the grip of a telepath far stronger that Prof X.

Before you start screaming Fanboy, read a comic

xtrubeastxcs
ooo nice insult buddy

soujaboy09
Wasn't suppose to be an insult, just proving that you don't no as much about comics as you think.

manjaro
i dont give a damn about what anyody says...maestro is the strongest. his base was twice that of regluar hulk, with the added bonus of getting stronger with anger and he retained his intellect to boot. that is acceptable to me cuz when hulk did all that ungodly shit, that fanboys love to harp on when superman discussions come up was in the time during the 60's and 70s, namely the antimatter thing, and the mountain thing was in the early 80's, during that same time period superman was doing riduclupsly more crazy shit than that, but the point is maestro was at a level that was yet to be defined...devil hulk and guilt hulk was in bruce's pysche, even tho im inclined to say that since hulk being the HULK and all and guilt hulk was damn near godzilla sized, i would say if shit came to shit he would be the strongest

Horrificus
Ah, the old "lift the mountain" argument.

personally, i think that feat should be disgarded as a strength feat.
it is more like Gladiator lifting the Baxter building.
if the weight of a mount rested on ANYTHING, it would simply sink into the mountain after the rock and dirt crumbled under it's own weight.
Period.

It ranks up there with how the Submariner was once able to jump out of the ocean, and fly to another galaxy in minutes.

Not possible, bad writing.

Horrificus
Maestro

manjaro
Originally posted by soujaboy09
So you know more than me? ok so when was Juggernaut ko'd by Superman?

actually that was during the infamous crossover...juggy was actually the first one to make into the DCU..dishevled and confused, he didnt know what was going on, then supes was all like(with his mullet and everything) "i dont know where you came from mister, but".... POW!!!! didnt even give him a chance to explain or anything, and that wasnt fan voted either b4 someone tries to go there, that was just to warm up the readers. the rest was fan voted

Ex11B
Good thread

GODSCRIBE
Bannerless Hulk is the strongest incarnation.

soujaboy09
No War Hulk is, I mean he is powered by celestials

outarddwarf
The infamous and incorrect and noncannon KO (not really since his eyes are open) of juggernaut by superman
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3711/juggcrossover3pg.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9795/juggcrossover29dk.jpg

jgiant
for me it will always be sav. hulk...i don't care what other say...HULK SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Horrificus
Originally posted by outarddwarf
The infamous and incorrect and noncannon KO (not really since his eyes are open) of juggernaut by superman
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3711/juggcrossover3pg.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9795/juggcrossover29dk.jpg

Seriously.

Who said he got knocked out?
He looks surprised, and is sitting on his butt. But, that is all.

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
he was till jean grey removed banner. and i think mindless is still capable of emotion and very very very very limited words

If you count grunting as words, then yes...
http://www.hulknews.com/hulkdatabase/l-mindlesshulk.jpg

Most different Hulk incarnations:
http://www.hulknews.com/hulkdatabase/incarnations2.php

juggernaut66666
1 war hulk
2 bannerless hulk
3 mindless hulk
4 maestro hulk
5 merged hulk
6 savage hulk

Horrificus
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
1 war hulk
2 bannerless hulk
3 mindless hulk
4 maestro hulk
5 merged hulk
6 savage hulk

I don't understand how everybody keeps saying War Hulk is the strongest.
What did he do?
He was just a Hulk with a bunch of celestial crap on him. I don't see how that automatically makes him the strongest.

juggernaut66666
because he had a celestial armor .You know celestials beings above skyfather level

xtrubeastxcs
Originally posted by manjaro
actually that was during the infamous crossover...juggy was actually the first one to make into the DCU..dishevled and confused, he didnt know what was going on, then supes was all like(with his mullet and everything) "i dont know where you came from mister, but".... POW!!!! didnt even give him a chance to explain or anything, and that wasnt fan voted either b4 someone tries to go there, that was just to warm up the readers. the rest was fan voted


THANK YOU

juggernaut66666
marvel vs dc was fan voted marvel vs dc all access was the one which was not fanvoted

xtrubeastxcs
Originally posted by Horrificus
Seriously.

Who said he got knocked out?
He looks surprised, and is sitting on his butt. But, that is all.


Well superman ended up fighting the Hulk later in the comic, so guess who won, and superman came back without a scratch in his costume, id imagine it had to be pretty easy

xtrubeastxcs
Maestro isnt an incarnation though, but he is the most powerful version of the hulk thats been out in the real world, but i think devil or guilt would be the most powerful if they got out

Sparkz
Why do people always say mindless hulk was the 1 to beat onslaught it was obviously savage, have you ever heard mindless hulk shout the madder hulk gets the stronger he becomes stuff, no? thats because he cnt talk, I would have thought it was obviouse but some people can be so oblivouse sometimes.

xtrubeastxcs
Well technically onslaught let the hulk break his armour, it was part of his plan to become an energy being, which cyclops states when he sees the energy "it was all a part of his plan" or something similar, if you want i can go get the comic from my brothers room

Sparkz
Originally posted by xtrubeastxcs
Well technically onslaught let the hulk break his armour, it was part of his plan to become an energy being, which cyclops states when he sees the energy "it was all a part of his plan" or something similar, if you want i can go get the comic from my brothers room

nah i wasnt dening that its just that some people seem to think it was the mindless hulk when it clearly wasnt

Mider
can ANY of those guys beside war hulk stalemate juggernaut

jgiant
Originally posted by Mider
can ANY of those guys beside war hulk stalemate juggernaut sav. hulk...mindless hulk...mastro...

Mider
are you insane? in strength?

jgiant
Originally posted by Mider
are you insane? in strength? ? What do you mean...are they as strong as juggs...if thats what u are asking than ofcourse...and if your asking in a fight it would be the same answer...

Mider
how do you know there as strong as juggs.

Horrificus
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
because he had a celestial armor .You know celestials beings above skyfather level

If I throw out some of my clothes, and a mouse makes a home in them, it doesn't mean that it is as strong as a human.

If a chimp takes a golf club and beats the hell out of some other chimps with it, that doesn't mean that he will be a great golfer.

Hulk had Celestial Armor on. Scavenged Celestial tech, tweaked by a earth creature and put on another earth creature.

How does that make him as powerful as a Celestial. That is just silly.

Thor was able to crack a hole in the head armor of the largest Celestial, but was never able to crack the exterior of Mangog. Does that mean Mangog is more powerful than a Celestial?

And, it just puts Celestials and War Hulk on the same level as every other character in the Marvel universe that got hurt by Thor's hammer.

Which means, Quasar and Juggernaut are above the power of a Celestial or War Hulk.

See how confusing it get's? That is why you have to stick to feats that have actually happened.

Mindship
I'm surprised they never came up with Cosmic Hulk.

soujaboy09
No Hulkl carbation except War Hulk can stalemate Juggernaut.

manjaro
not just becuase war hulk knocked his ass out but trust me dude, Maestro is boss... he has never been conclusivley defeated, only tricked or trapped or sent away from the playing or somehting equally ridicoulous.big grin the dude starts off at(YTD) class 180 (seeing as how a calm hulk is 90) he's very battle saavy and he can also go ape shit and get even stronger..so why the f is everyone dallying around it? meastro is the most powerful, then war hulk and thats all there is to it

soujaboy09
I say War Hulk is the strongest, and Juggernaut wasn't ko'd in that fight he was stalemated.

xtrubeastxcs
okay im sorry since apparently juggy is ur favorite character, but hulk would destroy him. i know hes strong but, "hulk is strongest one there is," and its been said many times by MARVEL that he is one of the most powerful creatures

xtrubeastxcs
Does juggernauts strength grow in his anger? NOPE. Has he ever jumped a hundred miles or jumped up into space and pulled down through the atmostphere where his skin and muscles were burnt off and healed in moments? NOPE.

face it, juggernaut is nothing to the hullk

soujaboy09
Now you sound stupid, Juggernauts strength doesn't grow with his rage, but it grows with his Focus(8th day saga). during the 8th day saga he excerted so much physical force that it nearly destroyed the world. Don't know how much strength that takes, but im sure it's a lot. He also made Thor look like a child. Thor himself stated that there's is no power that can defeat the undefeatable.

Juggernaut unlike the Hulk cant be physically damaged so he has no need for a healing factor. Juggernaut also has a force field he summons that makes him unable to be touched. Does Hulk hace this power? no.

During the 8th day saga Juggernaut defeated 7 gods who were more powerful than Thor, he even defeated a telepath who was far stronger than Prof X.

Yes Hulk is strong, but there is know way that he can defeat Juggernaut in a brawl by himself.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor0.jpg
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Juggernauts not my fav character, Colossus is. I just understand Juggernauts powers.

Marcus4600
Yeah, I think Juggernaut is a bit too much for Hulk to handle without a little enhancement of his own, like Celestial technology.

Wolverine2006
Savage Hulk is

Horrificus
Originally posted by manjaro
not just becuase war hulk knocked his ass out but trust me dude, Maestro is boss... he has never been conclusivley defeated, only tricked or trapped or sent away from the playing or somehting equally ridicoulous.big grin the dude starts off at(YTD) class 180 (seeing as how a calm hulk is 90) he's very battle saavy and he can also go ape shit and get even stronger..so why the f is everyone dallying around it? meastro is the most powerful, then war hulk and thats all there is to it

I agree with you.
Gult Hulk and Devil Hulk don't even exist. When Xavier appears in somebody's mind, he can appear as a giant. It doesn't mean that he is.

Maestro is the most powerful, freaky, smart and dangerous.

Reading Future Imperfect, I really had the feeling that here was a character that could actually kill off all those heroes.

Not just another sheesy "onslaught-type".

Horrificus
Originally posted by soujaboy09
I say War Hulk is the strongest, and Juggernaut wasn't ko'd in that fight he was stalemated.

He wasn't even stalemated. It never went anywhere to get stalemated.

Totally inconclusive.

If I start to get in a fight with somebody, and they surprise me, and knock me on my butt, and I don't get a chance to go at it, the fight is far from over.

It just means I got popped.

soujaboy09
Here go's the scans of there fight

Some how War Hulk trips Juggernaut, when Juggernauts pushing him back.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/theincrediblehulkv2457030tf.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/theincrediblehulkv2457040vb.jpg
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soujaboy09
Actually after reviewing the scans this fight was a stalemate.

For three pages Juggernaut had the upper hand, and Hulk had the upper hand in 3.

Horrificus
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Here go's the scans of there fight

Some how War Hulk trips Juggernaut, when Juggernauts pushing him back.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/theincrediblehulkv2457030tf.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/theincrediblehulkv2457040vb.jpg
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who is the yellow guy that lands on war hulk at the end?

Valharu
Thats the Absorbing Man. or Crusher Creel.

Horrificus
thanks

Sparkz
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Now you sound stupid, Juggernauts strength doesn't grow with his rage, but it grows with his Focus(8th day saga). during the 8th day saga he excerted so much physical force that it nearly destroyed the world. Don't know how much strength that takes, but im sure it's a lot. He also made Thor look like a child. Thor himself stated that there's is no power that can defeat the undefeatable.

Juggernaut unlike the Hulk cant be physically damaged so he has no need for a healing factor. Juggernaut also has a force field he summons that makes him unable to be touched. Does Hulk hace this power? no.

During the 8th day saga Juggernaut defeated 7 gods who were more powerful than Thor, he even defeated a telepath who was far stronger than Prof X.

Yes Hulk is strong, but there is know way that he can defeat Juggernaut in a brawl by himself.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor0.jpg
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Juggernauts not my fav character, Colossus is. I just understand Juggernauts powers.

In this story arc wasnt the juggernaughts power amped up, I only got a couple o parts and I think he told Spider-man he was far stronger than before but iv always seen hulk and juggs stalemated Hulk becomes to strong so the juggernaught can't beat him, but the hulk can't realy hurt juggernaught so neither can ever win in a fight, unless its the grey hulk then its just plain 1 sided

juggernaut66666
hulk was beaten by weaker characters than juggernaut like thor,iron man,namor......

Valharu
I dont think Thor is weaker than juggernaut and it was only Crusher Creel that kept Cains head on his shoulders. And its easy to see War Hulk was too much for juggy. Meastro followed by War Hulk

juggernaut66666
in war hulk fight juggernaut did not focus and did not use his force field
and maestro couldn't KO thor

Valharu
Its pretty stupid of juggernaut then and still doesnt change the fact he got owned. Maestro still number 1. WarHulk 2.

Horrificus
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
hulk was beaten by weaker characters than juggernaut like thor,iron man,namor......

And, Juggernaut has beaten the Hulk even without his aromor.

Horrificus
Originally posted by Valharu
I dont think Thor is weaker than juggernaut and it was only Crusher Creel that kept Cains head on his shoulders. And its easy to see War Hulk was too much for juggy. Meastro followed by War Hulk

All that means, is that anybody holding the sword could have posed a threat to Juggs.

Juggernaut was still stronger, and was able to keep pushing Hulk back, until the celestial gauntlet he was wearing, was able to trip juggernaut, and use his momentum against him.

It was not a strength feat at all.

soujaboy09
That was a magic aword, and we cant assume that Juggernaut would have been beheaded. Anything could have happened, Juggernaut could have summoned his shield at the last second, or the sword would have broke against his neck. We just can't assume he would have been beheaded.

juggernaut66666
the sword couldn't even do anything to absorbing man i mean he did not get wounded

soujaboy09
So like I stated before niether character got owned, it was a stalemate.

Sparkz
Originally posted by Horrificus
All that means, is that anybody holding the sword could have posed a threat to Juggs.

Juggernaut was still stronger, and was able to keep pushing Hulk back, until the celestial gauntlet he was wearing, was able to trip juggernaut, and use his momentum against him.

It was not a strength feat at all.

Actuly Hulk stopped Cain from pushing him back then tripped him up

Sparkz
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
hulk was beaten by weaker characters than juggernaut like thor,iron man,namor......

yes but hulk has also beaten all those characters before aswell so i don't see your point.

soujaboy09
Yet, Juggernaut has lost to none of them.

Valharu
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
the sword couldn't even do anything to absorbing man i mean he did not get wounded
Crusher exploded!!!!!

juggernaut66666
it was absorbing man but second time it did not had much effect

Valharu
I dont like this Juggs gets hurt, heals crap. Or the Trion fiasco.
They just should have left him INVUNERABLE and IMMOVEABLE and he would be the true powerhouse he deserves to be.

manjaro
ok lets not forget that we are talking about the strongest hulks here.. and again i say Maestro is #1...warhulk is #2...Classic Juggernaut, who was still in good favor with cytorrak can beat anybody, plus along with his forcefiled and all that he could call on cytorrak for more power...even tho warhulk thru him a few miles when he landed i didnt here him say oohhh ahhhh that fall hurt, but warhulk did beat him in the end tho...i think souljaboy should be resposible enuiff to post the rest of the scans where juggy was completly knocked out and unconscious.

the point is war hulk had aid from celestial tech...i dont think him all by himelsf could have beaten him so easily if at all

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Valharu
I dont like this Juggs gets hurt, heals crap. Or the Trion fiasco.
They just should have left him INVUNERABLE and IMMOVEABLE and he would be the true powerhouse he deserves to be.
i agree i an issue of x-force a member of the x-force throwed a sword at him and it cut juggernauts eyes he was bleeding and said i have healing factor i was like what the FCUK?

soujaboy09
If you can show me some points in the history of Marvel where Juggernaut was ko'd by Brute Force i'll gladly post the scans, but I dont remeber Juggernaut ever being ko'd. Not by brute force which is what we've been talking about.

So Name those point's in history, and i'll see if I can get them for you.

juggernaut66666
no he wasn't KO'd ever i have 83 juggernaut comics and he was never KO'd even phoenix says he can't be beaten phisically

soujaboy09
I was just wondering what Manjoro was talking about?

manjaro
in that same comic versus warhulk he was knocked out cold and the caption read something like i guess we will have to change his title from undefeatble....i will scour the forum if necessary to find it

soujaboy09
When was this?

Valharu
Originally posted by manjaro
in that same comic versus warhulk he was knocked out cold and the caption read something like i guess we will have to change his title from undefeatble....i will scour the forum if necessary to find it
Never happened.

Valharu
He said Unstoppable.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by manjaro
in that same comic versus warhulk he was knocked out cold and the caption read something like i guess we will have to change his title from undefeatble....i will scour the forum if necessary to find it
what are you talking about ? Have you even read hulk 457?

godking
Maestro Hulk is the most dangerous Hulk incarnation.

He has all the advantages of the other Hulks.

manjaro
man i could have sworn i saw a pic of juggernaut flat on his back and ppl standing over him....maybe im getting my issues mixed up, but il search for the pic

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Mindship
I'm surprised they never came up with Cosmic Hulk.

They did. Hulk had Uni-Power for a while.

manjaro
this was the pic i was talking but it wasnt te warhulk thing this was from onslaught....my bad for confusing them, but at least this shows that juggy can get his ass knocked out cold

juggernaut66666
that was depowered juggernaut in onslaught saga onslaught did this to him he lost his invulnerability and a bit of his power in all new exiles before onslaught saga

soujaboy09
If thats the first time, he wasn't ko'd he gets up, and says Onslaught.

xtrubeastxcs
Well Onslaught took out the crystal of cykkorak, which was supposed to be impossible, and through him across the world

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by xtrubeastxcs
Well Onslaught took out the crystal of cykkorak, which was supposed to be impossible, and through him across the world
because juggernaut lost his invulnerability and a bit of his strenght in all new exiles comics before onslaught saga

GODSCRIBE
It's Bannerless Hulk. What's wrong with you people?

bigboygreen
I think Savage.

Dinalfos
I think it's Savage Hulk. Maestro himself has stated that he's more or less affraid of the Savage Hulk, because that Hulk has the most efficient rage-strength balance. Maestro's intelligence somewhat limits the level of rage he can archieve.

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