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Could you please briefly describe the powers and abilites of Leto Atreides II, Drizzt Do’Urden, and Orochimaru? It was a little hard to tell from the bios

Drizzt is a dark elf. His attributes are slightly below peak human, but his swordsmanship is godly. He can summon globes of impenetrable darkness, summon a magic panther, and is completely immune to fire because of his magic sword. He also has bracers of speed, which make his arms even faster. (when paired with Quicksilver)

To describe Leto and why he is significant, I need to explain GODLIKE entirely...

Basically, GODLIKE is made of 3 street levelrs, meshed together to be pretty freaking invincible.

Anyways. Leto II himself is a 10 year old with the skin of a young sandworm. (2nd bio) He has roughly class 5 strength, and has bulletproof skin. His training makes him a superb martial artist, and gives him Karnak-style control over his bodily functions. He also has many passive mental abilities. He has great precognition, as well as clairvoyance, which is kinda like Daredevil's radar sense on steroids. Benedict of Amber is a god of war from a book series. He lifts about 2 tons, and is well above peak human in all other attributes. He's spent every day of several millenia training and figthing. His skill is unequaled, anywhere. He is the one with the sandtrout skin in GODLIKE, which we determined would almost double his strength. (Lam had some sketchy equation that put it at about 9 tons) Now, Vanth Dreadstar is actually a comicbook character. He is a skilled fighter, and wields an amazing sword. It multiplies one's strength by 10 times, which is why GODLIKE is between 90 and 100 tons. It absorbs energy, and fires it back in the form of a radium laser, which burns anything that it comes into contact with. Basically, GODLIKE is pushing the strength cap, is fast and agile as all hell, could spar with Karate Kid for days, (even without powers) can block and redirect energy blasts, and cannot be surprised. By anyone.

Orochimaru is an S level ninja. He specializes in summoning snakes, in addition to more standard ninja strength and speed. He also brings dead ninjas back in zombie form. Some of he snakes he summons are actually trained as ninjas themselves, awesomely enough. There's more, but SS is much more familiar with him than I am.

eep

so... whats the vegetation like round here?

lol

.......cheaters


Ill post something up....maybe wed.?? Im swamped with things to do...but I have most of my scans armed and ready to win this thing....

Originally posted by Blair Wind
.......cheaters


Ill post something up....maybe wed.?? Im swamped with things to do...but I have most of my scans armed and ready to win this thing....
BAH!!!!!!!!!!! You wish..........

This is gay. Grailnighter would own all you fools.

You mean, I coulda had Megaballz! Though part of him was Drizzt...so that probably shoots it down.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
You mean, I coulda had Megaballz! Though part of him was Drizzt...so that probably shoots it down.

Yeah, I'd been toying with the idea of bringing back the undefeatable pair for quite a while, which is mainly why I didn't respond to the Megaballz thing in general.

And Khell... How'd that last match of the other tournament go for Grailnighter? Good, making sure.
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So i'm the first aye ?

Well while my team are slowly ascending ninja boy dies .

How you may ask ?


Simple . Magic bullets


Rip van winkle fires a single musket shot , it races through the sky loops around several times before ramming straight through Ninja boy's forehead . It's also armour piercing which means that he can't block it very easily.

1 down and my team are still ascending. Since it will take a while for my team to reach the top I'll wait for the others to post their fights .

" Beasts of the forests , beasts of the pastures , those that race the skies.

The cry of victory will be mine , Oh hunting horn reverberate throughout the forests"

try to win this time fox

Originally posted by grey fox
So i'm the first aye ?

Well while my team are slowly ascending ninja boy dies .

How you may ask ?


Simple . Magic bullets


Rip van winkle fires a single musket shot , it races through the sky loops around several times before ramming straight through Ninja boy's forehead . It's also armour piercing which means that he can't block it very easily.

1 down and my team are still ascending. Since it will take a while for my team to reach the top I'll wait for the others to post their fights .

" Beasts of the forests , beasts of the pastures , those that race the skies.

The cry of victory will be mine , Oh hunting horn reverberate throughout the forests"
Oh snap. I've started reading Hellsing because of that respect thread, and I've just come to where Van Winkle makes his first appearance on the scene.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Oh snap. I've started reading Hellsing because of that respect thread, and I've just come to where Van Winkle makes his first appearance on the scene.

Her.

Originally posted by grey fox
So i'm the first aye ?

Well while my team are slowly ascending ninja boy dies .

How you may ask ?


Simple . Magic bullets


Rip van winkle fires a single musket shot , it races through the sky loops around several times before ramming straight through Ninja boy's forehead . It's also armour piercing which means that he can't block it very easily.

1 down and my team are still ascending. Since it will take a while for my team to reach the top I'll wait for the others to post their fights .

" Beasts of the forests , beasts of the pastures , those that race the skies.

The cry of victory will be mine , Oh hunting horn reverberate throughout the forests"
By ninja boy you mean orochimaru?

Originally posted by thesilverspider
By ninja boy you mean orochimaru?

Oh yes

Originally posted by grey fox
Oh yes
Bah Oro is much to fast to get hit with a bullet.
While The bullet is in the air Mar-vell calmly shoots it down while Oro speed blitzes Her..........

Originally posted by thesilverspider
Bah Oro is much to fast to get hit with a bullet.
While The bullet is in the air Mar-vell calmly shoots it down while Oro speed blitzes Her..........

Nope , considering she's down the mountain and he has no teleportation . Unless you want to fling Snake boy off the side of the Cliff. Oh and he breaks even the restricted caps , since he can bring back the dead.

Originally posted by grey fox
Nope , considering she's down the mountain and he has no teleportation . Unless you want to fling Snake boy off the side of the Cliff. Oh and he breaks even the restricted caps , since he can bring back the dead.
There's no rules on summonings now are there............
anyway do you got scans of her bullets at work?

Originally posted by thesilverspider
There's no rules on summonings now are there............
anyway do you got scans of her bullets at work?

Oh yes , but Mar-vell on the other hand isn't fast enough to block them . Considering that a vampire (naturally uber speedy creature) couldn't outrun them.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7954/hellsingv4c9065ds.th.jpg

Originally posted by grey fox
Oh yes , but Mar-vell on the other hand isn't fast enough to block them . Considering that a vampire (naturally uber speedy creature) couldn't outrun them.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7954/hellsingv4c9065ds.th.jpg


So you're saying that because a vampire couldn't outrun it Mar-vell can't.BAH!!!!!!!! Surely mar-vell is much faster then that one vampire.From the looks of it that looked like one of those weaklings....

Nope , that be an artificial vampire . Same as the Vampire Waffen SS who were speed blitzing humans* and taking machine gun fire like it was nothing .

*Unfortunately enough Mar-vell is just like his human counterparts in the sensory department. No bullet time for him I'm afraid.

Originally posted by grey fox
Nope , that be an artificial vampire . Same as the Vampire Waffen SS who were speed blitzing humans* and taking machine gun fire like it was nothing .

*Unfortunately enough Mar-vell is just like his human counterparts in the sensory department. No bullet time for him I'm afraid.
He's not human...........
As you can tell from my lack of arguement is why only focus on you when the other haven't shown up yet.

Originally posted by thesilverspider
He's not human...........
As you can tell from my lack of arguement is why only focus on you when the other haven't shown up yet.

No he's kree. But his alien heritage doesn't give him a one up in vision or speed . He misses the musket shot which kill snakey.

do we take turns posting our strategies or all post at the same time?

Meh all the same time , i'm barely up the mountain and their already one down

Damn, I'm posting here tomorrow...

Now that one of Team Evil is dead (via magic bullet) this thing should be a lot easier



Is the mountain 6 miles in diameter at the base or at the top? ... or is the top just the building you mentioned?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Now that one of Team Evil is dead (via magic bullet) this thing should be a lot easier



Is the mountain 6 miles in diameter at the base or at the top? ... or is the top just the building you mentioned?

*Bows* Thankyou , thankyou my manga knowledge is great and as such i shall crush the mods with ruthless tactics

Well since my strategy may affect others I'll go ahead and post it

Team:
Wondergirl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wondergirl
Blackfire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfire
Warbird http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers#Powers
Evil Mimic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimic_%28comics%29

As the deck is unfairly stacked in favor of Dizzle and SilverSpider, I aim to even thing up. How may you ask? Well I am going to use the mountain setting to my advantage.

Plan:

A direct attack would be not only expected by their team but also plays into their hand. Therefore I will turn their advantage in height into a distinct disadvantage. As the old saying goes: "if the mountain won't come to you, you must blow up the mountain" or something like that...

At the base of the mountain I will have my team fly about half a mile up (very close together so mimic can copy all of their abilities) and find one of the many caves littered about. I will then have Blackfire, Warbird, and Mimic (who now has both of their abilities) get a reasonable distance from the mountain and fire they most powerful projectiles into the cave with a very pissed off Wondergirl acting as a sentry.

Now these deep explosions in the interior of the mountain will literally cause the mountain to rip itself apart. As all of Dizzle's and Silverspider's teammembers are on the top of the mountain, this is very bad for them. Why? Not only will the seismic disruptions cause the temple they are in to collapse killing several of their team members, but those who live will face a seven mile drop only to them be covered in millions of tons of rock.

Now I know what you are thinking: "Kahn, this is a mountain for pete's sake, how could you do any real damage to it?"

That is a fair question. The reason that this mountain is so susceptible to this type of attack can be attributed to Dizzle's and SilverSpider's piss-poor design of it. For one thing the mountain is 7 miles high meaning that there is a lot of potential energy stored in it just waiting for a chance to get released (which I'm ore than happy to supple ). But more importantly Dizzle and SilverSpider made the damn thing taller than it is wide and this is a fatal mistake.

With the mountain having a 7 mile height and only a 6 mile diameter, that means it has one hellacious slope. Generally with a slope of 15% you have to be highly concerned with avalanches, rock falls, creeping, and rock slips. The mountain that Dizzle's and Silverspider's team has perched themselves upon has a slope of 233.33%!

This moutain is just wating to fall apart and when my team starts releasing multiple and powerful explosion inside of it, well sitting under a temple on the summit is the last place you want to be. It won't take much to bring the whole thing down killing most of their team (and all of the others who are tying to attack them). If there are any left my team can easily finish them off .

Originally posted by Khellendros
This is gay. Grailnighter would own all you fools.

Khells, are you in this battle? And if so, what's your roster?

Orocimaru is dead ........... the magic bullet can be easily countered with a shadow clone jutsu and this below.(the bullet would have to many targets)where as you're little lady would get killed by my clones and snakes before she can even fire another round.Sorry but looks like you're the one missing a team member........

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7793/newimage2ik.th.png

My internet connect is messing up so bare with me and my late responses.........

Originally posted by thesilverspider
Orocimaru is dead ........... the magic bullet can be easily countered with a shadow clone jutsu and this below.(the bullet would have to many targets)where as you're little lady would get killed by my clones and snakes before she can even fire another round.Sorry but looks like you're the one missing a team member........

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7793/newimage2ik.th.png

My internet connect is messing up so bare with me and my late responses.........

Wrong , the bullet goes through one and loops before going through another and another and another etc. Also were ignoring Khans current debate just for the moment because this is before the possible mountain collapse ( even though my team can survive it)

Also i checked what jutsu's he knows , shadow is not one of them . Ether provide a scan or prepare to lose .

"Our team begins standing under the statue, with a very good view of anyone who happens to be trying to ascend the mountain to challenge us"
I misread this so me and dizzle start on top.........
This changes alot of things........
and how the hell is she gonna hit a target that's that far?

Originally posted by grey fox
Her.
Ahh. Damn the manga and its girly-men confusing me all to hell.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Khells, are you in this battle? And if so, what's your roster?
Hell no. I am very much done with tournaments.

This mountain is not going to last long at all

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/6710/scan100january1920069sw.th.jpg http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7504/scan101january1920065nq.th.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2108/scan102january1920061rt.th.jpg http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5469/scan103january1920067yc.th.jpg


If an ancient Iron Man armour can do that much damage to a mountain..... just imagine what four state of the art Iron Men can do


http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5753/evilsmilie1hj.gif

Originally posted by Scoobless
This mountain is not going to last long at all

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/6710/scan100january1920069sw.th.jpg http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7504/scan101january1920065nq.th.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2108/scan102january1920061rt.th.jpg http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5469/scan103january1920067yc.th.jpg


If an ancient Iron Man armour can do that much damage to a mountain..... just imagine what four state of the art Iron Men can do


http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5753/evilsmilie1hj.gif

He DOES have Johnny and Photon powering him with maximum power...

I like it when Cap asks if he can help and Reed just casts him aside like nothing.

Meh, killing the mountain is stupid... Assume it's magically uncollapsable, for now. We would survive in either case, but the King of the Hill concept is much more fun. GODLIKE's prescience would warn him of the collapse, Rainbow Brite can get both him and GODLIKE down well before any serious damage is done, and Mar Vell can carry Orochimaru. We'd be on a more spread out mountain with the rubble from the temple and a massive statue of me and SS, no worse for the wear.

To Grey Fox... Your strategy might almost work, if GODLIKE didn't have prescience. You fire, it gets halfway up and is vaporized by a thin beam of radium laser. GODLIKE tells Rainbow Brite where you are, he zips down and blows off Winkle's head from a mile away, then returns well before anyone can get even close t the rest of the team. It takes more than an uber cheap version of the Saint of Killers to take out this team.

Basically, while we wait for someone to try to climb the mountain, Rainbow Brite charges GODLIKE's sword to starship-cracking levels, Orochimaru summons a bunch of deadly snakes and animates some ancient ninjas, and Mar Vell forgets that he's supposed to be dead. Anyone who attempts long range attacks can be very easily countered by GODLIKE's sensory powers, Mar Vell and GODLIKE's energy absorbing powers, or Rainbow Brite's crazy aim and intense reaction times. You pretty much have to come to us. Rainbow Bright's speed and blasts make him the perfect assassin as well, mind you.

And just to have fun with Scoob...
Hey, remember how Iron Man deals with Quicksilver's speed? Yeah, imagine him with magic swords and optic blasts.
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/7763/quicksilvervsim1kp.th.jpg

Respect.
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3199/striumph9ay.th.jpg

Originally posted by Dizzle
And just to have fun with Scoob...
Hey, remember how Iron Man deals with Quicksilver's speed? Yeah, imagine him with magic swords and optic blasts.
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/7763/quicksilvervsim1kp.th.jpg

yup... when he's not expecting a fight and is grounded he's been blindsided before (though not often)

Here we have 4 Iron Men, shielded, flying, scanning everything within the battlefield ... and some of them are invisible.... Quicksilver type people are not a problem


They fly up with sonic emitters cranked up to full (presience can't help against that) and continually strafing the people stuck on top of the mountain who are all grounded as their sense of balance has suddenly dissapeared

Originally posted by Scoobless
yup... when he's not expecting a fight and is grounded he's been blindsided before (though not often)

Here we have 4 Iron Men, shielded, flying, scanning everything within the battlefield ... and some of them are invisible.... Quicksilver type people are not a problem


They fly up with sonic emitters cranked up to full (presience can't help against that) and continually strafing the people stuck on top of the mountain who are all grounded as their sense of balance has suddenly dissapeared

Quicksilver alone, maybe. But give him optic blasts to level forests, magic swords, and the ability to create spheres of impenetrable darkness around each and every one of your Iron Men? I'd say one alone is pretty screwed. (which is all he needs to take) The visible ones get spheres of darkness attatched to them, which would probly stop any scanners as well. (at the very least, it has proven to work on infrared vision as well as normal vision... and hey, it's magic)

Now, I'd argue that GODLIKE wouldn't be affected by sonics, as Leto has control of his bodily functions, mostly through willpower. (not down to molecules, but he's done stuff as precise as manually regulating the concentration of Spice in his blood) So since he won't be disoriented and he can sense all of the Iron Men, the unsuspecting fliers get blasted by radium lasers.

Orochimaru has a whole bunch of undead ninjas with him. I'd doubt they would be affected either. He might not be in perfect form, but that won't matter when he's got 5 guys with superspeed, strength, and 20 illusions each protecting him. And a whole lot of snakes.

Mar Vell can take sonics. At most, he's stunned while the other three occupy the Iron Men enough for them to be forced to let up. Once some of his senses are regained (assuming your guys last long enough to really disorient him ) he's in the air and blasting away. Also, do you have scans of any of them besides 616 Iron Man actually using sonics in the fashion that you have all 4 using them now?

scoobs team is four iron men????

and by snakes not you're regular sized ones but these.........
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1924/summoning4mm.th.jpg
Thats just a regular sized snake summon by the way.........

Originally posted by outarddwarf
scoobs team is four iron men????



lol, yeah..... it's all for fun anyway.

Here you go:

616 Iron Man:

http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironman10aq.jpg
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http://img466.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironman25um.jpg
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Ultimate Iron Man:

http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tohotumutuxm2005page272mo.jpg
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Sentient Armour/Retro Armour-Mark II/Ultron Armour:

http://www.ironmanarmory.com/HRretroarmor.html

http://www.ironmanarmory.com/livingarmor.html
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Iron Man 2020:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ironman2020.htm

Originally posted by Dizzle
Also, do you have scans of any of them besides 616 Iron Man actually using sonics in the fashion that you have all 4 using them now?

I have scans of 616 and the sentient armour using them..... i also have scans of Ultimate Iron Man using neural scramblers .... which would be even more effective than sonics

all of the Iron Men have the ability to interface with other machinery to some degree.... they can keep open secure links between them to share sensor data and targeting information, giving full 360 degree awareness to every one of them.... much better than daredevils radar sense.... almost like the technological equivalent of cosmic awareness

Originally posted by Scoobless
I have scans of 616 and the sentient armour using them..... i also have scans of Ultimate Iron Man using neural scramblers .... which would be even more effective than sonics

Meh, I can accept that. It's one less Iron person with sonics, and my strategy for dealing with them doesn't change much. Undead pile, a bunch of optic blasts and darkness globes and a stab or two, (it worked for a ninja, it'll work for Rainbow Bright) and some crazy work with an energy absorbing sword.



Yes, but when all 4 are permenantly covered in impenetrable darkness, sharing information won't help them, since none of them can see or scan anything, making precise targeting impossible, rendering the more precise applications of sonics useless, and neural scramblers virtually unusable. And I WILL get you first, it's Quicksilver's reactions vs. Tony's reactions. From there, it's radium/optic/solar powered blasts through the middle of the 4 big black spheres for a few KOs.

....not gonna post anything right now in terms of strategy....but anyone can just remember....I have Dr. LIGHT and he will be used......so....scanners are working.....

cough cough....

edit: SilverSpider, love the new sig. Dizzy roxorz!

It's muthaf*ckin' on!!!!!!

Originally posted by Dizzle
Meh, killing the mountain is stupid... Assume it's magically uncollapsable, for now. We would survive in either case, but the King of the Hill concept is much more fun. GODLIKE's prescience would warn him of the collapse, Rainbow Brite can get both him and GODLIKE down well before any serious damage is done, and Mar Vell can carry Orochimaru. We'd be on a more spread out mountain with the rubble from the temple and a massive statue of me and SS, no worse for the wear.

To Grey Fox... Your strategy might almost work, if GODLIKE didn't have prescience. You fire, it gets halfway up and is vaporized by a thin beam of radium laser. GODLIKE tells Rainbow Brite where you are, he zips down and blows off Winkle's head from a mile away, then returns well before anyone can get even close t the rest of the team. It takes more than an uber cheap version of the Saint of Killers to take out this team.

Basically, while we wait for someone to try to climb the mountain, Rainbow Brite charges GODLIKE's sword to starship-cracking levels, Orochimaru summons a bunch of deadly snakes and animates some ancient ninjas, and Mar Vell forgets that he's supposed to be dead. Anyone who attempts long range attacks can be very easily countered by GODLIKE's sensory powers, Mar Vell and GODLIKE's energy absorbing powers, or Rainbow Brite's crazy aim and intense reaction times. You pretty much have to come to us. Rainbow Bright's speed and blasts make him the perfect assassin as well, mind you.

And just to have fun with Scoob...
Hey, remember how Iron Man deals with Quicksilver's speed? Yeah, imagine him with magic swords and optic blasts.
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/7763/quicksilvervsim1kp.th.jpg

Respect.
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3199/striumph9ay.th.jpg

Hah , wrong i'm afraid .

All of millennium vampires are armed with clairvoyance and the one in the scan still got shredded.Also , from what the khan is telling me it's near impossible for you to 'zip down' without breaking your neck from falling , not to mention the others attacking you on the way down , and believe me i wont be the only one firing .

Originally posted by thesilverspider
and by snakes not you're regular sized ones but these.........
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1924/summoning4mm.th.jpg
Thats just a regular sized snake summon by the way.........

Pfft , thats a wuss snake . Still flesh and blood . Nothing that my team can't take down .

My team aren't remotely worried about snakes...... and where did you find a bunch of dead ninja to resurrect on top of a mountain?

these darkness globes should be fairly avoidable considering the distance between us (as my team is flying) with the various shields we're using it's very likely that the wont have any effect anyway.... plus three of my guys are invisible and there's gonna be a bunch of holographic Iron Men buzzing around confusing the hell out of everyone

All that plus they'll just blow the hell out of anything on top of the mountain..... maybe Doglike could get out of the way but the rest of your team is screwed..... especially when they are all desperately trying to dodge magic bullets from below at the same time

Originally posted by Scoobless
All that plus they'll just blow the hell out of anything on top of the mountain..... maybe Doglike could get out of the way but the rest of your team is screwed..... especially when they are all desperately trying to dodge magic bullets from below at the same time

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8653/vlcsnap304863pz.th.png http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3014/vlcsnap309280ub.th.png

Originally posted by grey fox
Hah , wrong i'm afraid .

All of millennium vampires are armed with clairvoyance and the one in the scan still got shredded.Also , from what the khan is telling me it's near impossible for you to 'zip down' without breaking your neck from falling , not to mention the others attacking you on the way down , and believe me i wont be the only one firing .

Prescience and clairvoyance? Meaning that they can sense where you are, and what you're about to do? Didn't think so. GODLIKE senses that he's about to be shot at, and responds accordingly. Problem solved, before it's even a problem.

Originally posted by Scoobless
My team aren't remotely worried about snakes...... and where did you find a bunch of dead ninja to resurrect on top of a mountain?

these darkness globes should be fairly avoidable considering the distance between us (as my team is flying) with the various shields we're using it's very likely that the wont have any effect anyway.... plus three of my guys are invisible and there's gonna be a bunch of holographic Iron Men buzzing around confusing the hell out of everyone

All that plus they'll just blow the hell out of anything on top of the mountain..... maybe Doglike could get out of the way but the rest of your team is screwed..... especially when they are all desperately trying to dodge magic bullets from below at the same time

I'll resurrect ninjas wherever I damn well please. Orochimaru will have plenty of shadow clones of his own. Even if you bring in fake guys, your real ones will be plenty busy with my fakes as well. And again, GODLIKE's handy dandy sensory powers mean that he can tell which ones are and aren't real. Rainbow Brite should be able to tell the difference with infravision, as I doubt hologams would give off the same amounts of heat as just Iron Man would. And holy hell, how did I forget... You may have a poor man's cosmic awareness, but Mar Vell's packing the real thing. So the only one the illusions MIGHT fool is Orochimaru, who has just as many illusions himself, as well as an army of snakes and such.

The globes are summoned instantly, Drizzt doesn't shoot them, they just appear. (he can attatch them to targets as well) It's magic, he can do that kind of thing. Rainbow Brite moves and reacts at mach 10, Tony is still a human. Before he (any of the Tonys) does anything, he's blinded and under heavy fire. (again, I'm talking about all 4 of them)

Teaming up is illegal. We're handling strategies individually, meaning that it's kind of assumed that other strategies won't play a role in the fight between our team and your guys. Continue to bring in GF's arguments and our team DOES gain Superman. (cmon, our team kicks ass, but you honestly can't expect us to take on 20 guys at once here)

Wait, so you're using energy blasts instead of sonics now? Invisibility doesn't matter, with GODLIKE's precog and clairvoyance. Rainbow Brite should be able to handle it pretty well himself, as he has infravision and is just as skilled in darkness as he is in light.

If you're using energy, both GODLIKE and Mar Vell have the means to absorb and redirect it, so any bombardment will be impossible to sustain for long periods of time. Rainbow Brite is easily fast enough to get both himself and Orochimaru to safety. Drizzt was dexterous enough to run across the top of a blanket of snow without sinking in. His companion of similar size and weight specifically said that she couldn't perform the same feat. It was basically because of his agility. Getting down a mountain really fast, even a very steep one, shouldn't be a problem when he's mixed with Quicksilver.

alright, starting strategy

Goblin zooms up in the air a little ways to get a better vantage

Spider Girl stands guard around man-thing and blackheath acting as a glorified alarm

Blackheath begins to materialize swamp matter from Man-Things body, increading Man-Thing's size to about 50 feet

he then makes several clones of himself out of the plant matter of man-thing

he also sort of generally check the facinity for spores, pollen, anything to identify the location of foes

Originally posted by Dizzle
Prescience and clairvoyance? Meaning that they can sense where you are, and what you're about to do? Didn't think so. GODLIKE senses that he's about to be shot at, and responds accordingly. Problem solved, before it's even a problem.

Yes , i'll post scans later but most vampires know what your about do before you do it and know where you are.

I thought this was a free for all (batle royale)? Wouldn't all of the combat effect everyone?

This is just a lump of individual fights?

Originally posted by illadelph12
I thought this was a free for all (batle royale)? Wouldn't all of the combat effect everyone?

This is just a lump of individual fights?

I know it's kind of annoying considering doglike has a crap load of 'everything in one' attack powers.

So if we ban together they gain Superman?

Hmm...

Originally posted by illadelph12
So if we ban together they gain Superman?

Hmm...

think we can take superman?

.............trust me.....we can......

ok so for right now I will be just posting scans about how powerful my team is......Ill post a strategy later.....

Ultimate Thor:
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Huge blast
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shows him kicking Ultimate Ass....controlling the hammer without touching it, wind attacks on quicksilver, resistance to fire, ect...basically
shows how powerful he really is
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now for Dr. Light
Vs 2 dozen teen titans.....shows his durability (being able to take hits from everyone and still stand)
Dr. Light vs Teen Titans (2 dozen of them)
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shows how his light can kill
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more ass kicking....
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-A hardlight chain construct
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-Energy blast
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-Shields
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-Illusions
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Powerhouse (all I have for him is a revamp, but it does an ok job with the energy blasts...)
she didnt even absorb energy for that blast:
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Imagine with energy to be absorbed by Thor or Light

my strategy will come shortly
just read em and weep Dizzle.....just weep....

Originally posted by illadelph12
I thought this was a free for all (batle royale)? Wouldn't all of the combat effect everyone?

This is just a lump of individual fights?

Not really, as this isn't meant to be me and SS against everyone. You guys CAN attack each other, and you probably SHOULD if you want to win, since you won't get far going after us. There's something like 5 teams already, kill each other. Please.

Really, it's not all fair if it's determined that 4 teams of 4 guys each rush one of our guys, since us against even some single teams would be close fights. (we'd win of course, but that's beside the point) So basing strategies on the strategies of others isn't legal, because no one is going to be able to take everyone at once. While it is a free for all, we're still trying to get the best team to win, regardless of the amount of strategies there are posted against them.

For example, I could say that your team starts a lot closer to Scoob's team than it does to mine, so you two would naturally begin fighting. We assume that the battle is pretty close, and most of the people come out pretty beaten up. If I said Rainbow Brite immediately blindsides and kills both of your injured, weary characters, is it really a measure of who's team is better? Since we ARE the ones with the statue on top of the big mountain, we assumed we'd get the largest volume of posts against us, but the point is really to find the best team in all of this, not the one that no one directly attacks.

To keep it fair, we decided to put punishments on stacking your strategies with someone else's, for the reasons above. All of the punishments just make our team better, since I'm pretty sure everyone wants to see us lose.

And BW... You know how Thor got taken down eventually? CORRECT! Quicksilver took his belt. Now, I have a Quicksilver as well. Except he packs globes of darkness, meaning Thor won't be able to see him, and optic blasts, meaning he can just blast him down instead of making one of those leap of faith things. A globe of darkness and an optic blast or three forces him low enough that either Mar Vell or RB can take his belt and screw him over.

And naturally, the best way to beat Light is with... well, dark. The ever useful innate ability of the drow is to create magically impenetrable globes of pure darkness. Light gets one pinned to his face in a half second or so and he's much, much less useful. GODLIKE can take and send any blasts back at him.

Powerhouse can be kept busy by Mar Vell until Orochimaru comes and double teams him.

(did you keep Wendigo or DB? I'll counter both)

Anyhoo, Wendigo's too slow and stupid to touch any of my guys. Orochimaru can summon superstrong, superfast ninjas and snakes to match his 6, and still have plenty left to help Mar Vell with Powerhouse.

DB really depends on who he has copied. If he has one of your guys, Mar Vell or Orochimaru can deal with him. You won't get close enough powerless to take any of my guys, as GODLIKE, Mar Vell, and Rainbow Brite will be playing sniper/assassin with them as they try to ascend. If you get there with some powers and try to take one of my team, well... it all depends, really.

If Mar Vell can't take Powerhouse, he always has the option of trading with Rainbow Brite and holding off Thor while Brite dominates Powerhouse. (being a buttload faster and more experienced)

......I havent even posted my strategy yet...but theres one point Id like to make....he took the belt. No one would even know to touch the belt, but just in case my powerhouse super gravity glued it to him. Second darkness never beats light. Light can suck up all the ambient light and create darkness and release it.....he controls ALL light. Even with your little black blobs its really not gonna do much (considering darkness did raven no good either ).....more to come....but think about a gravity sheild backed by a light sheild backed by a limited wind sheild......all my characters can go all out blasts, since none of them would be effected by the others attacks (light can take the lighting, thor can take the light, and powerhouse can get powered by both....) Also light could just take the optic nerves and steal the light....everyone is effectivly blind....but im getting ahead of myself....my strategy will come....just wait...

Do you have DB or Wendigo?

DB.....but he can be anyone

In the time leading up to battle my team prepares by doing the following:

Death's Head II runs multiple combat scenarios in his onboard OS to formulate the best course of action.

Animal Man amalgates the powers of animals from the Red that best suit battle. These traits are:

The flight speed of an Acanti (space whale): http://www.mutanthigh.com/aliens/acanti.html
The hearing of a Noctoid Moth: http://www.bugbios.com/entophiles/lepidoptera/lepi_035.html
The Strength of a Brachiasaurus: http://www.ircs.upenn.edu/cogsci2000/brachiosaurus.html
The radiological invulnerabilty of a cockroach: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockroach
The snap of a pistol shrimp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_shrimp
The ability of mitosis from bacteria: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitosis
The regenerative abilities of an amoeba: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoeba
The scale running speed of a tiger beetle: http://www.ivyhall.district96.k12.il.us/4th/KKhp/1insects/tigerbeet.html
The eyesight of a Dragonfly:http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/wildkingdom/warrior/poll/senses/senses3.html
The EM absorbtion abilities and energy projection of a Sun Eater: http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/dc/suneater.htm

After amalgamating these abilities Animal Splits into 6 identical beings and prepares for battle

Meanwhile, Kenshiro and Karate Kid exchange techniques and spar. Kenshiro shares a good smattering of the techniques he is familiar with:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fist_of_the_north_star#Styles

And in turn Val gives Kenshiro his spare Legion Flight Ring and teaches Kenshiro the finer points of zero g combat..

Death's Head II then uses his scanners to incorporate the specifications of the flight ring into his database and uses his morphogenic arm to recreate the abilities of device, granting him flight.

Val then uses his Legion of Superheroes communicator to contact...

Originally posted by Dizzle
The globes are summoned instantly, Drizzt doesn't shoot them, they just appear. (he can attatch them to targets as well) It's magic, he can do that kind of thing.

I've been reliably informed:

Originally posted by an unnamed source
Just so you know i have never known drizzt d'urden to be able to create multiple darkness spells at all. Even if he had in the past the innate spells he knows now are weakened (his darkness spell) or completly gone (levitation spell he used to have) after his leaving the underdark so your iron men should barely be hindered because the radius is only ten by ten if i remember correctly.

Have these "darkness globes" been tested against infrared sensors? magnetic resonance imaging sensors? acoustic sensors? motion sensors?

I sincerely doubt it considering he's from a world of magic..... i'd say it's a fair bet that given - Drizz's limited globe casting ability, The Iron Men's sensors, the fact that they are invisible and in constant motion - that that little trick wont be nearly as effective as you'd like it to be.... plus IM has heat seeking missiles which don't care about the light levels

Originally posted by Dizzle
Wait, so you're using energy blasts instead of sonics now?

not instead of, alongside

Originally posted by Dizzle
If you're using energy, both GODLIKE and Mar Vell have the means to absorb and redirect it

So do my guys... except the IM team can absorb from all directions at once

With our obvious advantage of flight we really don't need to worry about most of your team anyway, we can happily pick you off one by one while staying out of reach of anyone else

Duplicate Boy, who Karate Kid updates on the status of his team in preperation to strike.

Duplicate Boy in turn takes Animal Mans powers and splits into six (since even now my DB Prime is protected)

I have a large gravity field up made by Powerhouse and my thor and Dr. Light are right next to him. Light takes the light from everyones eyes (and two of Darkcrawlers characters ), while at the same time suckin up the ambient light. Thor is busy making large scale electricity blasts (like the one facing the alien ships) Powerhouse is being powered up by those blasts and shooting them out in a deadly array of power bombs. Your teams speed is matched by my animal men and my powerhouse and my Thor and Dr. Light are heavy hitters enough to take them out. Ill and my team have common team members and attack at the same time. What he lacks in raw power he makes up in skill and what I lack in skill I make up in raw power. We take you down. Hard. Wicked Hard.

Scoobs team is take easily enough as well (after we kill you Dizzle, since it just so happens that we all attacked you first)....all his suits run on some sort of electricity and are functional only through the use of energy. Dr. Light controls ALL forms of light (including a gods lighting {and characters like Blitzwhatever and feed back} )......anyone else is burned by Dr Lights omni directional blasts and Thors Lighting.....the only ones fast enough to be still alive would be Ills team (freakin manga characters)...Inamilists earth characters have been killed by lighting, and thekhans sunspot has been drained of energy (its light ) Magma has been controlled through gravity, sonic booms, mach speeds, more lighting, burning omni directional blasts, and light punctures.......anyone else?

I think I just killed everyone with my team cept Ill.....and I will get to him later.....

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Scoobs team is take easily enough as well (after we kill you Dizzle, since it just so happens that we all attacked you first)....all his suits run on some sort of electricity and are functional only through the use of energy. Dr. Light controls ALL forms of light

Not even close to a truthful account of the fight. If he could do that then how did Cyborg manage to kick his arse?... the only thing remotely resembling electricity he stole was the glow from one piece of magic string

Electricity is not light

Before Light even realises his tricks wont work, Ult IM scrambles his brain and the Sentient armour rips his head off

Dr Light himself stated he could take the lighting from a god. Is lighting not electricity??
why did he loose? because its a comic book and the bad guy HAS to loose. The limitations are not the same here. And thor takes care of Ult Ironman, and all the other ironmans once their suits are shut down.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Have these "darkness globes" been tested against infrared sensors? magnetic resonance imaging sensors? acoustic sensors? motion sensors?

I sincerely doubt it considering he's from a world of magic..... i'd say it's a fair bet that given - Drizz's limited globe casting ability, The Iron Men's sensors, the fact that they are invisible and in constant motion - that that little trick wont be nearly as effective as you'd like it to be.... plus IM has heat seeking missiles which don't care about the light levels

I'd like to know your source, as it seems to be another member. There's nothing to back up Drizzt's ability with darkness globes ever weakening. The only side effect of leaving the underdark was the loss of his flight, nothing more.

They have proven to be effective at blocking infrared, yes. Every drow can switch his vision between normal vision and infravision, which allows them to see heat instead of light, since most live in total darkness at all times. Their eyes glow red when they use this, (except for Drizzt's... his are always purple) the connection is pretty obvious. Can I give examples of it being effective against every single sensor Iron Man has? No, but thus far, no one has been able to see anything from inside of it, ever, in a world with lots of people with magic means of vision. What it comes down to is the fact that is magic, it doesn't obey physics or anything resembling them, and this is magic that specifically blocks all sight of every kind, as far as all evidence is concerned.

I can't think of multiple globe usage at the moment, I'll check on it. It might be a while, I have something like 20,000 pages to go through.



Ok, I can deal with that.



So can Mar Vell, and GODLIKE might as well be able to. Even without speedster powers, make no mistake, GODLIKE is FAST. Benedict by himself fought and soundly defeated a guy who fought with many many mentally controlled tentacles. Think Doc Ock plus. Leto covered 50 meters with what he calls "a few swimming motions". When first getting used to his new body, he accidentally jumped forward a full 10 meters while trying to stand up. He runs fast enough to begin to burn the bottom of his bulletproof feet. (his was a cumulative increase, so his hands would move proportionally quickly) Combined with at LEAST Karate Kidesque levels of skill and nothing is going to be touching GODLIKE.



That assumes my team is stupid. Drizzt's 70 and has been fighting the whole time. GODLIKE is a couple thousand and has been doing the same. Mar Vell is a universe-renowned superhero, Orochimaru has reached the highest class of ninja mastery. They KNOW how to fight, and they're not stupid enough to be simply picked off. If you try flying above them, they band together and let GODLIKE and Mar Vell absorb whatever you throw, then throw it back, simple as that, all the while being provided with plenty of shots from Rainbow Brite. If they get close, they're far overpowered by GODLIKE's skill and strength, RB's speed, and the sheer numbers from Orochimaru. So you stay away and get blasted, or you come in close and get smashed. Your choice.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Duplicate Boy, who Karate Kid updates on the status of his team in preperation to strike.

DB tries to ask Karate Kid, KK puts a fist through his head. Unlesss you two want to team up against me...



Again, how, without Animal Man realizing it and killing him before he familiarizes himself withe the Red? It took AM himself a long time, DB won't be able to do much.



FIRST: You're way the hell too far away for Light to take light from someone's eyes. I'm personally starting 8 and something miles from your team, it's a hell of a long way.
SECOND: You don't have Animal Man, Ill does. How you got his powers is really beyond me, since yu don't exactly know that he's here.
THIRD: Hot damn, them Acanti fly fast, don't they? It's Catch 22 time boys. Acanti transcend light speed, which is grounds enough for me to squash AM into a pulp using my handy dandy TOAA cannon. (that's a bit more than mach 10) However, I'd accept the judgement that Acanti are found only in Marvel and wouldn't be a part of the Red, meaning AM is currently not quite so fast, at the moment. Since I can't think of any animals that perfectly match Quicksilver, Rainbow Brite has a susbstantial speed advantage on him.
FOURTH: Any proof on Powerhouse's blasts? I've seen them knock out one lizard. Gotta do better than a lizard, or it's getting taken, enhanced, and sent right back at you for a kill.
FIF: Thor is GODLIKE's b****. He shoots energy, GODLIKE takes it and throws it back, but better. He notices the glowing energy belt and takes it, then decapitates Thor for the hell of it.
SIXTH: Light absorbs energy, I have one guy who does not use ANY energy, and happens to have a veritable army at his disposal. Light's simply going to get rushed by a whole bunch of superstrong, superfast guys until he gets pummeled to death. No energy to steal, way too many to blast, given their insane, manga style speed and strength. SS's computer is on the fritz, but he got me a scan of one ninja running around another without the 2nd noticing, then punching him through a stone wall. Awesomely enough, he survived.



That's awful dangerous talk, BW. Superman is waiting in the wings...

send me Superman.......send him.....I dare you

and KK and Duplicate Boy have been teammates before.....notice ills post....he was going to contact me in the first place. I dont need the red to copy Animal Mans superpowers (the ones that he is using at the time)

You want to talk distances with Dr. Light? I suck up all the ambient light into myself. NOW EVERYONE is in darkness........

The animal moves mach 10 in the atmosphere......according to Ill.

My energy output is greater and more versitile, my physical characters are much better, my durability is better, my versitility is much more than your amalgams which almost half have to do more with mind enhancements than anything else....

Did you notice it took 2 dozen teen titans (including some heavy hitters) to take Light down, it took the Ultimates and then some to take Thor down, Powerhouse is a gravity master, plus has bishopy powers, plus he can fly really darn fast. and Duplicate Boy can be anyone he damn well pleases to be.....

Dr. Light doesnt need to just take all the energy from a being to be effective, he just does an omni directional blast that makes you blind, microwaves you on high and kicks your ass. Thors belt is gravity glued sorry. Any blasts sent my way is either taken by light or absorbed by Powerhouse. Powerhouses bio (or his sisters at least) states that at the VERY uppermost limit of her power she absorbed regular thors blast and sent it and knocked out something he couldnt......I dont think something like that has ever happened again, but hey this is the free for all who cares....

so.....wheres the challenge?

please explain: where does Godlike get the ability to take energy and then channel it back? I think thats the only character Im slightly confused about

Originally posted by inamilist
think we can take superman?



I can , bullets magic for a reason

I got it....

and on Godlike, his sword limits his movements if its going to be absorbing all the energy output Im dishing, where both my absorbers use their whole body. Serouisly look at the scans. You think he can block ALL that?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
:
anyone else is burned by Dr Lights omni directional blasts and Thors Lighting.....the only ones fast enough to be still alive would be Ills team (freakin manga characters)...
I think I just killed everyone with my team cept Ill.....and I will get to him later.....

I belive you mean my team . As ill has the basic comic charachters while i'm manga'd up to the eyeballs.

Originally posted by Blair Wind

Scoobs team is take easily enough as well (after we kill you Dizzle, since it just so happens that we all attacked you first)....all his suits run on some sort of electricity and are functional only through the use of energy. Dr. Light controls ALL forms of light (including a gods lighting {and characters like Blitzwhatever and feed back} )......anyone else is burned by Dr Lights omni directional blasts and Thors Lighting.....the only ones fast enough to be still alive would be Ills team (freakin manga characters)...Inamilists earth characters have been killed by lighting, and thekhans sunspot has been drained of energy (its light ) Magma has been controlled through gravity, sonic booms, mach speeds, more lighting, burning omni directional blasts, and light punctures.......anyone else?


given the distances and the duel you seem to be having with Dizzle's characters, I hardly think you will be frying everyone's team.

In fact, I have a 50' man-thing that would attract the majority of the lightning, that blackheath can just regrow

spider-girl also has an awesome spider sense, so its unlikely that you would get her

You might get goblin, but he can take a good shot get back up

and since everyone is still focused on eachother im going to start growing new Man-Things from man-thing, provided im not too busy healing the big one (which i doubt, re: all the people absorbing energy)

Does this battle have preptime?

Originally posted by Dizzle
DB tries to ask Karate Kid, KK puts a fist through his head. Unlesss you two want to team up against me...



Again, how, without Animal Man realizing it and killing him before he familiarizes himself withe the Red? It took AM himself a long time, DB won't be able to do much.



FIRST: You're way the hell too far away for Light to take light from someone's eyes. I'm personally starting 8 and something miles from your team, it's a hell of a long way.
SECOND: You don't have Animal Man, Ill does. How you got his powers is really beyond me, since yu don't exactly know that he's here.
THIRD: Hot damn, them Acanti fly fast, don't they? It's Catch 22 time boys. Acanti transcend light speed, which is grounds enough for me to squash AM into a pulp using my handy dandy TOAA cannon. (that's a bit more than mach 10) However, I'd accept the judgement that Acanti are found only in Marvel and wouldn't be a part of the Red, meaning AM is currently not quite so fast, at the moment. Since I can't think of any animals that perfectly match Quicksilver, Rainbow Brite has a susbstantial speed advantage on him.
FOURTH: Any proof on Powerhouse's blasts? I've seen them knock out one lizard. Gotta do better than a lizard, or it's getting taken, enhanced, and sent right back at you for a kill.
FIF: Thor is GODLIKE's b****. He shoots energy, GODLIKE takes it and throws it back, but better. He notices the glowing energy belt and takes it, then decapitates Thor for the hell of it.
SIXTH: Light absorbs energy, I have one guy who does not use ANY energy, and happens to have a veritable army at his disposal. Light's simply going to get rushed by a whole bunch of superstrong, superfast guys until he gets pummeled to death. No energy to steal, way too many to blast, given their insane, manga style speed and strength. SS's computer is on the fritz, but he got me a scan of one ninja running around another without the 2nd noticing, then punching him through a stone wall. Awesomely enough, he survived.



That's awful dangerous talk, BW. Superman is waiting in the wings...

Well, Acanti are in Marvel, so I'll accept that.

I'll substitute the Acanti for the powers of the Zoo Crew:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Carrot_and_His_Amazing_Zoo_Crew

And they are in DC. They're anthropomorphic animal superheroes.

Team Members

The members of the Zoo Crew include:

* Captain Carrot: Roger Rodney Rabbit of "Gnu York"; a rabbit. The leader of the team whose real name is Roger (or Rodney, as the latter comics named him to avoid confusion with the Disney film Who Framed Roger Rabbit) Rabbit. He would eat one of his "cosmic carrots" (as Rodney called them), Rodney would gain superpowers for roughly 24 hours although major exertion could exhaust the powers sooner, which include super strength, endurance, heightened hearing and vision senses and a super-powerful leap. As such, he is the only member who has to constantly replenish his powers and keeps a pair of carrots holstered on his person for such a need in emergencies. The source of these carrots was initially a windowbox which he grew carrots in, which one of the meteor fragments had struck. Later he arranged a grow-op at the team headquarters to ensure an adequate continuous supply. In his alter ego, Rodney is the writer and artist of the comic book "Justa Lotta Animals."
* Alley-Kat-Abra: Felina Furr of "Mew Orleans" (a parody of New Orleans, Louisiana); a cat. A martial arts instructor and student of the mystical arts, Felina uses her "Magic Wanda" (a magic wand) to cast various types of spells.
* Pig-Iron: Peter Porkchops of "Piggsburgh" (a parody of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania); a pig. Struck by a meteor fragment, the diminutive Peter fell (along with the meteorite) into a vat of molten metal in the steel mill where he worked. The consequent chemical reaction transformed his now-enormous body into living steel, with strength and invulnerability to match. Peter was originally a character from an earlier series of DC "funny animal" comics. Pig-Iron, nicknamed the "Swine of Steel" and "Porcine Powerhouse", was perhaps inspired by the Gilbert Shelton character Wonder Wart-Hog, known as "the Hog of Steel".
* Rubberduck: Byrd Rentals of "Follywood, Califurnia" (a parody of Hollywood, California); a duck. Byrd, a movie star, was given the power to stretch his body into any shape and length when a meteor fragment struck his hot tub. Byrd Rentals' name is a parody of actor Burt Reynolds. Rubberduck was also nicknamed the "Malleable Mallard."
* Yankee Poodle: Rova Barkitt, also of "Follywood"; a poodle. Rova, who worked as a gossip columnist, was interviewing Byrd when they were both struck by meteor fragments. Rova gained the ability to project a repelling force (in the form of blue stars) with one hand and an attraction force (in the form of red-and-white stripes) with the other. Rova Barkitt's name is a parody of gossip columnist Rona Barrett.
* Fastback: Timmy Joe Terrapin of the fictional "Okey-Dokey" (a parody of the Okefenokee) swamp in the American south; a turtle. While trying to catch a bus to "Kornsas City" (Kansas City, Missouri), Timmy was struck by a meteor fragment and gained the ability to move at superchelonian speed. Fastback was also nicknamed the "Reptilian Rocket." Timmy Joe is not the first superspeedster in his family. His uncle Merton McSnurtle was secretly The Terrific Whatzit, a crime fighter during the Second Weird War.
* Little Cheese: Chester Cheese, a student at Follywood High School; a mouse. Chester had the ability to shrink from the comparable size of his teammates to a size of only a few centimeters, and was the only team member to not gain his powers from a meteor fragment (rather, he gained them from eating a piece of experimental cheese brought back from Earth-C's moon).



edit:

Oh, and I'll take the intelligence of Gorilla Grodd:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_Grodd

Intelligence isn't a physical power...Gideon was banned because he could absorb skill and intelligence.

Eh, scratch Gorilla Grodd. I guess I got a little ahead of myself.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Dr Light himself stated he could take the lighting from a god

And Iron Man is said to be invincible..... back it up or find a new argument

Just because you want him to have a power doesn't mean he has it

Originally posted by inamilist
given the distances and the duel you seem to be having with Dizzle's characters, I hardly think you will be frying everyone's team.

In fact, I have a 50' man-thing that would attract the majority of the lightning, that blackheath can just regrow

spider-girl also has an awesome spider sense, so its unlikely that you would get her

You might get goblin, but he can take a good shot get back up

and since everyone is still focused on eachother im going to start growing new Man-Things from man-thing, provided im not too busy healing the big one (which i doubt, re: all the people absorbing energy)

Spider girl and goblin die . Quite painfully i might add as two musket bullets rip through them several times . She can only dodge so many times before she ends up going off the mountain .

Blackheath dies through magic bullets as well . Their not plant life and black heath can't see anyone to give any plant related pain to.

Now heres the big one , Man thing . My team ambush him .

Captain shreds people with his kicks , man thing gets a serious chunk booted out of him . IF Man-thing can secrete enough acid in time (which i doubt) then the captain can regenerate. He re-grew his arm in a few seconds .

Manji could also slice a chunks out of man things leg's , since i believe the secretions work form his mouth area downwards.

Luffy uses himself as a human sling shot flinging huge chunks of rock at the now seriously depleted man thing . Rip is just re-loading her musket and humming to herself , she's a decent distance (15-30 metres away) but because of her vampriric abilities she can just about dodge anything that could get thrown her way.

Sorry inamilist

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I would think this is him controlling electricity

http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drlight87rs.jpg

Taking power from a glowing light source is totally different from taking power from a stored supply

the reason you haven't got any scans to show that he can do that sort of thing is simply because he can't

He gets his brain scrambled and his head ripped off

haha. Its stored in the lasso the "juice" the lighting is IN the lasso. Just like he took superboys heat vision. Light is light my friend. Nice try tho

Well, now I have a crapload to respond to. I'll start from the top.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
send me Superman.......send him.....I dare you

You WANT me to bring in more guys for our team? Mr. Majestic enters the battlefield next to our team, and using his insane, Flash-like speed, flies into the atmosphere, lobotomizes all of the DB's with heat vision, picks up the statue, and beats your entire team to death before any of them can blink. He then salutes and leaves. No teaming up, dammit. Free for all means free for all. (just kidding... unless you REALLY want to join forces with Ill...)



Then Ill shares your Majestic based fate. Simple as that, I specifically said that forming alliances is illegal, as it is unfair to everyone else, myself included.



ALL light, everywhere? Show scans of him draining 9 square miles of ALL and absorbing all of the light from the sun and I'll consider it. We are outside you know. Doctor Light tries and explodes, one down.



Source? In the website he provided, it says simply that it is well past lightspeed, and if they're in Marvel, he won't be able to copy them in the first place. Also, Ill, I'd like to see instances of Animal Man replicating a quarter of the powers you have him using. We're not getting into theoretical powers of the Red, or I kill him for being able to take the powers of the entire JLA on a whim, since technically every living thing is an animal.



Greater? Show me Ultimate Thor doing anything to equal Cyclops's omniblast. Your versatility got screwed when Light exploded himself. Physically, GODLIKE would beat down any single one of your cahracters, easily. He is stronger and faster than Thor, (unless you want me to have Majestic and tam up with Ill) and more skilled by insane amounts. The only reason LP was allowed to draft him was because he vowed to stick to only powers that AM had used in comics.



The Teen Titans are morons. Most of them weren't real noteworthy, and Light had the massive battlefield advantage. Cyborg on his own eventually was the one to take him down.



Yes, but it's where a LOT of his strength lies. Orochimaru really has a pretty unlimited amount of guys that he can throw at you, all of them with a good degree of superstrength and speed. Light will get tired, his shields will break. Then a ninja will lobotomize him a second time... by caving in his skull.



Still here, thanks very much. GODLIKE absorbs energy with his sword, he's easily skilled and fast enough to absorb and blast back at the same time.

Originally posted by Dizzle




Yes, but it's where a LOT of his strength lies. Orochimaru really has a pretty unlimited amount of guys that he can throw at you, all of them with a good degree of superstrength and speed. Light will get tired, his shields will break. Then a ninja will lobotomize him a second time... by caving in his skull.



Still here, thanks very much. GODLIKE absorbs energy with his sword, he's easily skilled and fast enough to absorb and blast back at the same time.

Ninja boy's dead. It's not team up it's a fact.

If this is a FFA then it's in real time (kinda) so Snakey has bit the big one.

Dizz, it's common knowledge that Animal Man has access to all of the powers of any animal in DC. I haven't taken any powers from humans, nor will I argue that point.

I have, however, taken powers from animals that happen to have superpowers and exist in DC.

Perfectly legal.

Oh, and bring Majestic. I could always use Krypto the SuperDog and Super Squirrel of Chipton.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
haha. Its stored in the lasso the "juice" the lighting is IN the lasso. Just like he took superboys heat vision. Light is light my friend. Nice try tho

The lasso glowed, part of its power is light

Superboy's heat vision is just refocused light waves into a laser/heat beam

Electricity is not light

Dr Light cannot take power from inside a self contained power source

He dies quickly due to his overconfidence

Originally posted by illadelph12


Dizz, it's common knowledge that Animal Man has access to all of the powers of any animal in DC. I haven't taken any powers from humans, nor will I argue that point.

I have, however, taken powers from animals that happen to have superpowers and exist in DC.

Perfectly legal.

Oh, and bring Majestic. I could always use Krypto the SuperDog and Super Squirrel of Chipton.

Ok, by your definition, he has access to the powers of all members of the JLA, since by definition, pretty much all of them are animals. For blatantly breaking every single cap, TOAA smashes Animal Man, all strategies are null involving him, unless you want to go by comics instead of speculation as to what he COULD do. Oh, and Majestic would own both Krypto and Super Squirrel.

Originally posted by grey fox
Ninja boy's dead. It's not team up it's a fact.

If this is a FFA then it's in real time (kinda) so Snakey has bit the big one.

Actaully, Van Winkle's dead, Rainbow Brite shot his head off from a mile away, while GODLIKE disintegrated the one bullet you managed to get off. Your shot happens from 8 miles away, it would take more than a minute for the bullet to reach my team. GODLIKE could calmly walk to the edge of the temple and cut it out of the air if he misses witht he laser. One bullet isn't going to take out my team, sorry GF.

Hell, change it around. Brite takes off the visor and blinks instead of head shotting Van Winkle, killing your entire team. (save possibly Cap, provided he sees it coming) Worst case scenario, it's a guy who runs Mach 10 with magic powers and optic blasts against a slightly beyond peak human martial artist with a shield.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Ok, by your definition, he has access to the powers of all members of the JLA, since by definition, pretty much all of them are animals. For blatantly breaking every single cap, TOAA smashes Animal Man, all strategies are null involving him, unless you want to go by comics instead of speculation as to what he COULD do. Oh, and Majestic would own both Krypto and Super Squirrel.

Dizzle, come on now.

Where have I ever stated that Animal Man has access to the powers of the JLA?

You are GREATLY overstepping your bounds.

I have not in one post in this thread argued to use Superman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, The Flash, or any other member of the Justice League via Animal Man's access of the Red, nor have I argued that I could use the abilities of a human being because humans are animals.

Where you are getting this information is a complete and total mystery to me, and more than likely to anyone one else that can read and comprehend the English language.

It is plain for anyone that has reading comprehension that I have only stated abilities associated with animals.

This is a blatant abuse of authority. You're banning a character based on an unsubstantiated inference.

If you are really going to be petty enough to ban Animal Man even though I have never stated to use any powers of any humans, then count me out of this FFA round, because there's no point in battling when an opponent has the ability to change the rules anytime they are at a disadvantage.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I got it....

and on Godlike, his sword limits his movements if its going to be absorbing all the energy output Im dishing, where both my absorbers use their whole body. Serouisly look at the scans. You think he can block ALL that?

Actually, yes, yes he can. GODLIKE's sword can create an absorbing field around him... Like so.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9089/areaabsorbingdreadstarstyle1aw.th.jpghttp://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2457/moreabsorbtion7tn.th.jpg

He's also plenty speedy with his sword. Remember, this is JUST Vanth Dreadstar, who is a beast, but is also by far the slowest portion of GODLIKE.
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/7041/dreadstar4yp.th.jpg

Originally posted by illadelph12
Dizzle, come on now.

Where have I ever stated that Animal Man has access to the powers of the JLA?

You are GREATLY overstepping your bounds.

I have not in one post in this thread argued to use Superman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, The Flash, or any other member of the Justice League via Animal Man's access of the Red, nor have I argued that I could use the abilities of a human being because humans are animals.

Where you are getting this information is a complete and total mystery to me, and more than likely to anyone one else that can read and comprehend the English language.

It is plain for anyone that has reading comprehension that I have only stated abilities associated with animals.

This is a blatant abuse of authority. You're banning a character based on an unsubstantiated inference.

If you are really going to be petty enough to ban Animal Man even though I have never stated to use any powers of any humans, then count me out of this FFA round, because there's no point in battling when an opponent has the ability to change the rules anytime they are at a disadvantage.

Tournament policy, Ill. Check the draft threads, Animal Man was allowed specifically because LP said he would be able to back up each and every power that he uses with Animal Man with times that he has used them in comics. Whether or not he can use the powers of super powered animals is completely specualtory, as he has never, ever done so. So if he can take powers from one super powered animal, why can't he take them from all the rest? By your very own definition of his powers, he CAN take powers from the JLA, he just never has done it before. I can take Flash and promise to keep him at Mach 10, or I can take Superman and promise to keep all of his attributes at the tournament caps, but is that fair? Hell no. Back him up with comics, keep him within the rules, I've said anyone who argued that a character was beyond the caps would get their character killed. Go back to the early planning phases, I've been saying it the whole time, and I DO intend to enforce it. No one has done so until now, but if now's the time, so be it.

didnt he take on the powers of a animal in space that generated electricity from its face like a huge lighting attack? seems "super" powered to me

http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lightradiation1ig9ul.jpg

Dr. Light has the ability to manipulate all frequencies of the EM spectrum, not simply light, that's just his name. He could simply alter the frequency of every energy source on the battle field and make it toxic to the bearer just as he altered the frequency of Blue Superman's energy form body. Just turn every energy signature in the vicinity to microwaves and massacre the whole field.

anyother questions as to what Light can and cannot control....didnt think so

So let me get this straight:

I have to show scans of Animal Man using the powers of every animal I say hes' using, but you and Silver Spider can use a made up amalgam with no comic book appearances whatsoever (because he doesn't exist) ,or feats at all, and can use depictions of other characters that are part of this amalgam to substantiate your claims?

I sense EXTREME hypocricy Dizzle.

This isn't about "tournament policy", I can recall plenty of unsubstantiated claims accounting for victories in this tournament. This is about you being at a disadvantage in this fight and finding a cop out.

By your own policy 2 members of your own team are unusable.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lightradiation1ig9ul.jpg

Dr. Light has the ability to manipulate all frequencies of the EM spectrum, not simply light, that's just his name. He could simply alter the frequency of every energy source on the battle field and make it toxic to the bearer just as he altered the frequency of Blue Superman's energy form body. Just turn every energy signature in the vicinity to microwaves and massacre the whole field.

anyother questions as to what Light can and cannot control....didnt think so

because it was at the bottom of the other page....

Originally posted by illadelph12
So let me get this straight:

I have to show scans of Animal Man using the powers of every animal I say hes' using, but you and Silver Spider can use a made up amalgam with no comic book appearances whatsoever (because he doesn't exist) ,or feats at all, and can use depictions of other characters that are part of this amalgam to substantiate your claims?

I sense EXTREME hypocricy Dizzle.

This isn't about "tournament policy", I can recall plenty of unsubstantiated claims accounting for victories in this tournament. This is about you being at a disadvantage in this fight and finding a cop out.

It depends on the power, really. I guarantee that Animal Man has never taken superpowers of any kind, from animals or otherwise, so that would be blind specualtion to his abilities. Taking something like a pistol shrimp or a cockroach is fine, but Krypto the Superdog? I'd be hesitant to believe that he even could. The need for proof was a stipulation associated with the drafting of Animal Man, because his potential is FAR beyond the caps of this tournament. Read the draft threads.

Both of our amalgams have comic book characters, as well as book characters. I can back up every ability with quotes and scans. GODLIKE has 2 book characters, which ARE allowed in this tournament, and have been from the beginning. Drizzt is from RA Salvatore's main series, Leto II is from the Dune series by Frank Herbert, and Benedict of Amber is from the series simply called Amber by Roger Zelazny. All of them are within the caps of the street level tournament individually, and all are within the caps of THIS tournament when amalgamated.

For feats, I've used the individual feats of the characters that make up the amalgams to determine what they can do, because that's what the point of making an amalgam is...

The closest thing we have to speculation is GODLIKE's strength, which is explained by the following: Dreadstar's sword is said to increase strength by 10 times, Leto's strength alone is between 5 and 10 tons, going by feats. Benedict's larger and stronger body, when given the sandtrout skin, would push him towards the higher end of that range, which Lam calculated in the 2nd fight, which has been fixed at 90 tons here. He does not exist, but his individual components do.

Call it a cop out if you want, but the bottom line is, Animal Man's never gone Mach 10, Animal Man's never been a class 100, and Animal Man has never, ever copied Krypto the Superdog, which would be well beyond the caps as is.

Originally posted by Dizzle
It depends on the power, really. I guarantee that Animal Man has never taken superpowers of any kind, from animals or otherwise, so that would be blind specualtion to his abilities. Taking something like a pistol shrimp or a cockroach is fine, but Krypto the Superdog? I'd be hesitant to believe that he even could. The need for proof was a stipulation associated with the drafting of Animal Man, because his potential is FAR beyond the caps of this tournament. Read the draft threads.

Both of our amalgams have comic book characters, as well as book characters. I can back up every ability with quotes and scans. GODLIKE has 2 book characters, which ARE allowed in this tournament, and have been from the beginning. Drizzt is from RA Salvatore's main series, Leto II is from the Dune series by Frank Herbert, and Benedict of Amber is from the series simply called Amber by Roger Zelazny. All of them are within the caps of the street level tournament individually, and all are within the caps of THIS tournament when amalgamated.

For feats, I've used the individual feats of the characters that make up the amalgams to determine what they can do, because that's what the point of making an amalgam is...

The closest thing we have to speculation is GODLIKE's strength, which is explained by the following: Dreadstar's sword is said to increase strength by 10 times, Leto's strength alone is between 5 and 10 tons, going by feats. Benedict's larger and stronger body, when given the sandtrout skin, would push him towards the higher end of that range, which Lam calculated in the 2nd fight, which has been fixed at 90 tons here. He does not exist, but his individual components do.

Call it a cop out if you want, but the bottom line is, Animal Man's never gone Mach 10, Animal Man's never been a class 100, and Animal Man has never, ever copied Krypto the Superdog, which would be well beyond the caps as is.

Dizz, you're missing my point.

You're telling me I have to show proof of Animal Man using the powers of animals that just so happen to have powers, yet you can't provide any proof of anything Godlike or Rainbow Brite could do.

All of their attacks are 'speculation' because the characters don't exist, and there is no way to substantiate that the melding of their powers would garner the same results as each individual character as you're saying.

I've never seen either amalgamation you are using in this battle ever perform any attack you claim they're capable of performing, as well as amalgams being banned, by you, from this tournament.

With all do respect (and there is no malice in my sentiments):

you're being a hypocrite.

You can't show Rainbow Brite or Godlike performing any of the abilities you are claiming they can because they don't exist, yet you can use scans of the individuals they are embodying as proof of your claims, but when I say that I use the powers of an animal, which is the basis of Animal Man's abilities, and common knowledge to all, I have to show proof of every action I'm claiming he can perform?

You can't have it both ways.

If I have to show Animal Man using a superhero animals powers, you have to show Godlike and Rainbow Brite, not just their progenitors, the actual amalgams themselves, performing these actions. If not, any attacks you are claiming they are capable of are simply speculation.

It's the exact same thing.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Dizz, you're missing my point.

You're telling me I have to show proof of Animal Man using the powers of animals that just so happen to have powers, yet you can't provide any proof of anything Godlike or Rainbow Brite could do.

All of their attacks are 'speculation' because the characters don't exist, and there is no way to substantiate that the melding of their powers would garner the same results as each individual character as you're saying.

I've never seen either amalgamation you are using in this battle ever perform any attack you claim they're capable of performing, as well as amalgams being banned, by you, from this tournament.

With all do respect (and there is no malice in my sentiments):

you're being a hypocrite.

You can't show Rainbow Brite or Godlike performing any of the abilities you are claiming they can because they don't exist, yet you can use scans of the individuals they are embodying as proof of your claims, but when I say that I use the powers of an animal, which is the basis of Animal Man's abilities, and common knowledge to all, I have to show proof of every action I'm claiming he can perform?

You can't have it both ways.

If I have to show Animal Man using a superhero animals powers, you have to show Godlike and Rainbow Brite, not just their progenitors, the actual amalgams themselves, performing these actions. If not, any attacks you are claiming they are capable of are simply speculation.

It's the exact same thing.

I see your point, but I'm saying that AM was a special case, because of his vast potential. I see your connection, but I still think there's a difference. I wasn't going to ban him because you couldn't prove that he can copy superpowers, leave it at that.

So screw it, it's a bonus round. Just keep him inside the caps, and don't suggest that he's capable of breaking them, and you can keep him.

Do you still want to team up with Blair Wind though? I'd love to argue against the both of you with Majestic...

(oh, and BW, if you try to copy all of AM's powers, DB's inexperience with the Red will basically drive him insane, and he'll revert to a feral state, as AM did himself. This is assuming that he didn't kill you before you got the chance to copy him, naturally)

Ok, I'll stay away from Kryptonian Dogs (though they are a species of animal in the DCU and are therefore connected to the Red, so I would have access to it's abilities).

Are you using Superman or Mr. Majestic?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Ok, I'll stay away from Kryptonian Dogs (though they are a species of animal in the DCU and are therefore connected to the Red, so I would have access to it's abilities).

Are you using Superman or Mr. Majestic?

If you two are seriously teaming up, Majestic...

Originally posted by Dizzle
Actaully, Van Winkle's dead, Rainbow Brite shot his head off from a mile away, while GODLIKE disintegrated the one bullet you managed to get off. Your shot happens from 8 miles away, it would take more than a minute for the bullet to reach my team. GODLIKE could calmly walk to the edge of the temple and cut it out of the air if he misses witht he laser. One bullet isn't going to take out my team, sorry GF.

Hell, change it around. Brite takes off the visor and blinks instead of head shotting Van Winkle, killing your entire team. (save possibly Cap, provided he sees it coming) Worst case scenario, it's a guy who runs Mach 10 with magic powers and optic blasts against a slightly beyond peak human martial artist with a shield.

Pfft , Manji can dodge it easily (he could take it anyway YAY bloodworms)

Captain dodges it with ease , this is a man who caught a thrown knife in the air with ease and then crumpled it just to show how bad-ass he was.

Rips is a SHE dammit !!! and she's a vampire , she can dodge it .

Luffy's rubber , your a concussive blast . BOING it head straight back or at least what part hits him (IF it hit's , he could simply dodge it) you can't do it again due to your current ass kicking by the others (not a team up *shakes head* the way i see it it's direct team up's not allowed . Eg iron man airlifts the captain into snakey ass kick range , not real time events . Plus i'm waiting for Inamilist to realise i killed his team.)

Originally posted by grey fox
Pfft , Manji can dodge it easily (he could take it anyway YAY bloodworms)

Captain dodges it with ease , this is a man who caught a thrown knife in the air with ease and then crumpled it just to show how bad-ass he was.

Rips is a SHE dammit !!! and she's a vampire , she can dodge it .

Luffy's rubber , your a concussive blast . BOING it head straight back or at least what part hits him (IF it hit's , he could simply dodge it) you can't do it again due to your current ass kicking by the others (not a team up *shakes head* the way i see it it's direct team up's not allowed . Eg iron man airlifts the captain into snakey ass kick range , not real time events . Plus i'm waiting for Inamilist to realise i killed his team.)

You're gonna dodge this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast3.jpg

Respect Cyclops. Vampires haven't got crap, all 4 are getting disintegrated by the sheer concussive force. Luffy wouldn't send back concussive blasts of energy, stretchiness doesn't work like that. He's a poor man's Mr. Fantastic, not Plasticman on steroids. If he survives, Mar Vell or GODLIKE can disintegrate him later.

Originally posted by Dizzle
You're gonna dodge this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast3.jpg

Respect Cyclops. Vampires haven't got crap, all 4 are getting disintegrated by the sheer concussive force. Luffy wouldn't send back concussive blasts of energy, stretchiness doesn't work like that. He's a poor man's Mr. Fantastic, not Plasticman on steroids. If he survives, Mar Vell or GODLIKE can disintegrate him later.

That was fanboy masturbatory art. You never see him use a blast of that size again . Whereas the artificial vampires are seen using their superior speed again and again.

Originally posted by grey fox
That was fanboy masturbatory art. You never see him use a blast of that size again . Whereas the artificial vampires are seen using their superior speed again and again.

Yes, but does speed matter when Cyclops has the best aim this side of Bullseye? Taking off his visor has ALWAYS caused a wide angle blast... It's like, what he does. Anyhoo, seeinga s none of them would see it coming, all 4 get their heads blown off from a very long distance away. This is Cyke's aim...

Tagging Northstar
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000cwkcr1eu.jpg

Spacial geometry rocks...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5779865

Shooting some pool...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/uxm144pg08b.jpg

Blowing through a monster's head and pimping it up, all on one page.
http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000b7yar3ed.jpg

Originally posted by Dizzle
Yes, but does speed matter when Cyclops has the best aim this side of Bullseye? Taking off his visor has ALWAYS caused a wide angle blast... It's like, what he does. Anyhoo, seeinga s none of them would see it coming, all 4 get their heads blown off from a very long distance away. This is Cyke's aim...

Tagging Northstar
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000cwkcr1eu.jpg

Spacial geometry rocks...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5779865

Shooting some pool...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/uxm144pg08b.jpg

Blowing through a monster's head and pimping it up, all on one page.
http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000b7yar3ed.jpg

So it's a beam now ? Make up your mind a beam or a blast.

Ether way it doesn't matter the beam moves fast , but not uber fast. Whereas my team do move uber fast or have the capability to heal from it .

Originally posted by grey fox
So it's a beam now ? Make up your mind a beam or a blast.

Ether way it doesn't matter the beam moves fast , but not uber fast. Whereas my team do move uber fast or have the capability to heal from it .

Both. He starts with one big blast that disintegrates all of them, then he blasts whatever decides to regenerate until it stops.

Your team moves faster than pure kinetic energy? I don't remember it being clocked at lightspeed, but I'm pretty sure it's hovering right around there. Keep in mind, Rainbow Brite himself is moving at mach 10, they would have a big zero time to react to him before they're all a head shorter. Literally.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Both. He starts with one big blast that disintegrates all of them, then he blasts whatever decides to regenerate until it stops.

Your team moves faster than pure kinetic energy? I don't remember it being clocked at lightspeed, but I'm pretty sure it's hovering right around there. Keep in mind, Rainbow Brite himself is moving at mach 10, they would have a big zero time to react to him before they're all a head shorter. Literally.


Ok if your guy is moving that fast , his aim isn't going to be very good. Don't say 'oh well cyclops ability' because thats CYCLOPS's not Brite . You denied mental abilities which unfortunately enough is one of cyclops's .

The blast CAN be dodged .

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5425/hellsingv2c3139mc.th.jpg

Thats Luke valentine , he's A LOWER RANK then rip and can move faster then bullets. The higher you go the more powerful you get.

Luffy can spring himself away . The captains even higher rank then Rip and is so fast that he can dodge (and catch) walters wires in mid air. Manji is pretty fast on his own but may get hit , if so he heals in a few seconds.

Originally posted by grey fox
Ok if your guy is moving that fast , his aim isn't going to be very good. Don't say 'oh well cyclops ability' because thats CYCLOPS's not Brite . You denied mental abilities which unfortunately enough is one of cyclops's .

The blast CAN be dodged .

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5425/hellsingv2c3139mc.th.jpg

Thats Luke valentine , he's A LOWER RANK then rip and can move faster then bullets. The higher you go the more powerful you get.

Luffy can spring himself away . The captains even higher rank then Rip and is so fast that he can dodge (and catch) walters wires in mid air. Manji is pretty fast on his own but may get hit , if so he heals in a few seconds.

... What? Cyclops is part of Rainbow Brite, his mind makes up 1/3 of Brite's overall mental abilities. That's how amalgams work, what one component can do, the resulting character can do. You can't copy mental powers, but this is his very own power.

Ok, he's faster than bullets. That's about mach 1. The speed gap isn't exceptionally huge between vampires, none of them would get past moving mach 2 or 3, tops. Northstar cruises at mach 10 and CAN go faster. The scan above shows Cyke tagging him in the face, mid flight. The beam of pure kinetic energy is a teensy bit faster than a bullet or razor wires handled by a geriatric, regardless of his vampire slicing skills. The comparison is a bad one. It's like saying that Batman punched out Blue Beetle, therefore he can beat up Karate Kid.

Excuse me, I didn't mean he would be running while shooting. I meant his speed would allow him to shoot all 4 at basically the same time while perched a mile up. It's way harder to dodge when they don't see it coming. Why would he need to be moving when they have no idea that he's there?

Originally posted by Dizzle
... What? Cyclops is part of Rainbow Brite, his mind makes up 1/3 of Brite's overall mental abilities. That's how amalgams work, what one component can do, the resulting character can do. You can't copy mental powers, but this is his very own power.

Ok, he's faster than bullets. That's about mach 1. The speed gap isn't exceptionally huge between vampires, none of them would get past moving mach 2 or 3, tops. Northstar cruises at mach 10 and CAN go faster. The scan above shows Cyke tagging him in the face, mid flight. The beam of pure kinetic energy is a teensy bit faster than a bullet or razor wires handled by a geriatric, regardless of his vampire slicing skills. The comparison is a bad one. It's like saying that Batman punched out Blue Beetle, therefore he can beat up Karate Kid.

Excuse me, I didn't mean he would be running while shooting. I meant his speed would allow him to shoot all 4 at basically the same time while perched a mile up. It's way harder to dodge when they don't see it coming. Why would he need to be moving when they have no idea that he's there?

Werewolf . Supersenses. Hears blast . dodge.

Whats so hard to belive about that . Plus isn't brite a little bit busy trying to shoot down the Ironen (NOT A DAMN TEAM UP !! REAL TIME REAL TIME) !!!!

I see if I can get a distance scan. But light can "see" the light in everyone. Look at the scan where he is talking to superboy.....

and to Dizzle, DB cant duplicate the Red, its mystical in nature, HOWEVER he CAN duplicate the superpowers that are being displayed. See the difference? So I dont have the insanity problem.....

Originally posted by Blair Wind
http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lightradiation1ig9ul.jpg

Dr. Light has the ability to manipulate all frequencies of the EM spectrum, not simply light, that's just his name. He could simply alter the frequency of every energy source on the battle field and make it toxic to the bearer just as he altered the frequency of Blue Superman's energy form body. Just turn every energy signature in the vicinity to microwaves and massacre the whole field.

anyother questions as to what Light can and cannot control....

Yup... because there are still massive holes in your argument

Every scan you've shown of Light has him affecting energy that he has direct access to.... not once has the guy eve affected a shielded power supply.... because he can't, he's totally out of his element here and his overconfidence will get him killed

Uh, isn't Superman Blue wearing a containment suit?

^^^ Took the words right out of my mouth.....anything else scoobs?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I see if I can get a distance scan. But light can "see" the light in everyone. Look at the scan where he is talking to superboy.....

and to Dizzle, DB cant duplicate the Red, its mystical in nature, HOWEVER he CAN duplicate the superpowers that are being displayed. See the difference? So I dont have the insanity problem.....

He can see them, but what if they are somewhere where he can't see them at all? Like, behind a big-ass mountain.

then what the hell are you gonna do to me? the moment you come into view your screwed.....Power Bombs can take of you once your depowered.....

Originally posted by Blair Wind
then what the hell are you gonna do to me? the moment you come into view your screwed.....Power Bombs can take of you once your depowered.....

I have Jesse Bedlam. He can work without actually coming to eyesight...seeing as he can track the location of your team pretty easily. Few bio-electric EMP's make Dr. Light have some incredible pain on his head...and your other team members too.

Hmm, Majestic, huh...

Hmm...

question for dizzle: How can you not expect people to gang up on you? You have a team that is above the tourney caps, which means it is above all the members of any team battling it. so how can one team battle a team that is above its maximum level and has characters that encompass several other characters without the hindrances that follow any other team with multicharacter powers?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Uh, isn't Superman Blue wearing a containment suit?

Not over his face.... and a containment suit isn't the same as armoured shielding

Blue Superman used his energy powers without having to first remove the suit... he's still partially exposed

Originally posted by Blair Wind
^^^ Took the words right out of my mouth.....anything else scoobs?

yeah!

"back up your claims with actual proof"

Light can't do what you claim he can, he never has and that's why you can't show proof

your continual lying brings shame on this forum and your family

So in order to prove he can drain Ironman he has to show his powers effecting either Ironman or someone analagous with Ironman, like say, Steel?

I can agree with that.

B-Dub, you've got some scans to find homie.

Originally posted by illadelph12
So in order to prove he can drain Ironman he has to show his powers effecting either Ironman or someone analagous with Ironman, like say, Steel?

I can agree with that.

B-Dub, you've got some scans to find homie.

Even if he can find something (which i doubt) the fact is that if it was such a simple thing to do then Cyborg never would have been able to get within 50 feet of him..... but we all know Cyborg beat his ass all over the place

Taking the PIS route?

He's fought Cyborg a few times and never sucked the energy out of him ... and Cyborg isn't as shielded as IM ..... seems fine to me

Who's on your team Ill? and who is the rest of BW's team?

The only reason i've been responding so much about Dr Light is that i'm not sure who else is in this thing

Come on, people...post.

Ultimate Thor, Light, Duplicate Boy and Powerhouse. My gravity sheilds can take anyone and throw them like a mother, my omni directional blasts can take care of almost anyone (Light and Thor), my stealing energy comes in handy with almost anyone, most importantly Darkcrawlers team (who are mostly composed of lighting weilders).

not to mention that DB is multiplied to six super powered mo' fos. (Ills animal men)

Im leaving for the night, but thats just a really general sense of what my characters can do....

I have Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star), Death's Head II, Animal Man and Karate Kid.

Originally posted by grey fox
Spider girl and goblin die . Quite painfully i might add as two musket bullets rip through them several times . She can only dodge so many times before she ends up going off the mountain .


ummm, im still at the base of the mountain...

and anyways, spiderman is more than capable of dodging bullets, even magic bullets (he catches a couple at the beginning of "the other" plotline) SG is faster and has a more developed spidersense, I dont think some long range fancy bullets are going to do much

Originally posted by grey fox
Blackheath dies through magic bullets as well . Their not plant life and black heath can't see anyone to give any plant related pain to.


Well, this might happen if blackheath had any internal organs and wasn't, you know, made of plant

ya, you probably are hurting him with the bullets, but his ability to regrow his body is enough to heal from non-fatal blasts

this doesnt take into account the fact that blackheath made duplicates of himself from man-thing... so i'd be a stretch to proove that you even hit the right one

anyways, you start shooting from a distance at SG and Goblin, Blackheath locates pollen and spore in your lungs and gives you an asthmatic response, or just grows roots from the local foiage out around you as to incapacitate (Not accounting for the fact that Dizzle says Rainbowbrite has already killed you char :/)

If Blackheath comes under fire, he simply integrates himself into the plant matter of Man-Thing, the way he does with bushes in Avengers vs Thundebolts #1 or 2... ill find scans later if necessary

Originally posted by grey fox Now heres the big one , Man thing . My team ambush him .

Captain shreds people with his kicks , man thing gets a serious chunk booted out of him . IF Man-thing can secrete enough acid in time (which i doubt) then the captain can regenerate. He re-grew his arm in a few seconds .

Manji could also slice a chunks out of man things leg's , since i believe the secretions work form his mouth area downwards.

Luffy uses himself as a human sling shot flinging huge chunks of rock at the now seriously depleted man thing . Rip is just re-loading her musket and humming to herself , she's a decent distance (15-30 metres away) but because of her vampriric abilities she can just about dodge anything that could get thrown her way.

The acid secreation is typically passed through a touch of the hand when man-thing feels the fear of another

And, since your strategy to beat him is physical damage, you are probably going to be plenty scarerd

The thing, the hulk and others have all tried to use physical damage to hurt the man-thing, and it normally has no success, since he can reform himself if you manage to break any part of him off, and mostly, physical objects pass directly through his body without harm.

so, your blades and kicks, regardless of how effective they may be against "meat" opponents are useless here, as well as the rocks.

So, it looks to me like both the captain and Manji are in lots of trouble, especially since man-thing is 50' tall and has lots of excess plant matter to heal himself with, should you even hurt him. Take into account that his body can be controlled by Blackheath, these 2 are tied up with man-thing vines and burnt to a crisp

your rock thrower and your gunner are entirely useless against man-thing, so provided they dont die from asthma or dizzle, Man-thing just rushes over and burns them too

Originally posted by grey fox
Sorry inamilist

no problem

RESPECT man-thing

Originally posted by outarddwarf
question for dizzle: How can you not expect people to gang up on you? You have a team that is above the tourney caps, which means it is above all the members of any team battling it. so how can one team battle a team that is above its maximum level and has characters that encompass several other characters without the hindrances that follow any other team with multicharacter powers?

Our team isn't above the caps... All 4 members are inside every single cap. We only broke the "no amalgams" rule, but their actual powers still fit inside the caps. None of them are stronger than Thing, none of them have a greater energy output than Iron Man, etc etc etc. (that doesn't include Majestic, as he was the response to the team up...)

The basic gist is that if you try to team up with someone else, you get killed.

And GF, I really think you're missing the point. You're arguing that your attack would work because Scoob's team is distracting me, however, I could argue the exact same thing against you. Hell, my argument for that is probably better, as he starts a hell of a lot closer to you than he does to me. So even though it's not a direct team up, your argument against my team relies on Scoob, instead of just yourself. Would you and Scoob together beat our team? Probably. Would my team kick your team's ass if there were no other team around? Definitely. The winner should be the strongest team, not the team that no one decides to attack...

Nevermind. Grailnighter couldn't have won, since apparently the rules and circumstances can be twisted at a whim.

So this is a lump of individual matches?

I thought the point of a free for all was that everyone on the battlefield was fair game at all times from all angles. Like the Royal Rumble in the WWE.

Originally posted by illadelph12
So this is a lump of individual matches?

I thought the point of a free for all was that everyone on the battlefield was fair game at all times from all angles. Like the Royal Rumble in the WWE.

Take it as you will, really. I realize now that the problem with me actually debating and officiating at the same time makes it hard to tell the difference between "official" stuff and me arguing with people...

In my mind, "real time" shouldn't really be taken into account, because I approach this thinking that the strongest team here should win, not the one that gets attacked the least. So as a debater, I treat it as a string of single battles. Can you bring in "other stuff" that might happen in this fight? Yes, though I'd still argue against it, because it's using the strength of other teams instead of your own, but it's not illegal. The only thing that IS illegal, and has been the whole time, is deliberately teaming up with an opponent.

So from here on in, (this'll be up another week, along with the finals) I'm going to stop debating, as it's all but impossible for anyone to discern whether I'm simply trying to argue as a contestant or uphold the rules. (or change them, though from how I intended everything to be taken, I haven't changed anything since my first post... except for bringing in Majestic over Superman)

Originally posted by inamilist
ummm, im still at the base of the mountain...

and anyways, spiderman is more than capable of dodging bullets, even magic bullets (he catches a couple at the beginning of "the other" plotline) SG is faster and has a more developed spidersense, I dont think some long range fancy bullets are going to do much



Well, this might happen if blackheath had any internal organs and wasn't, you know, made of plant

ya, you probably are hurting him with the bullets, but his ability to regrow his body is enough to heal from non-fatal blasts

this doesnt take into account the fact that blackheath made duplicates of himself from man-thing... so i'd be a stretch to proove that you even hit the right one

anyways, you start shooting from a distance at SG and Goblin, Blackheath locates pollen and spore in your lungs and gives you an asthmatic response, or just grows roots from the local foiage out around you as to incapacitate (Not accounting for the fact that Dizzle says Rainbowbrite has already killed you char :/)

If Blackheath comes under fire, he simply integrates himself into the plant matter of Man-Thing, the way he does with bushes in Avengers vs Thundebolts #1 or 2... ill find scans later if necessary



The acid secreation is typically passed through a touch of the hand when man-thing feels the fear of another

And, since your strategy to beat him is physical damage, you are probably going to be plenty scarerd

The thing, the hulk and others have all tried to use physical damage to hurt the man-thing, and it normally has no success, since he can reform himself if you manage to break any part of him off, and mostly, physical objects pass directly through his body without harm.

so, your blades and kicks, regardless of how effective they may be against "meat" opponents are useless here, as well as the rocks.

So, it looks to me like both the captain and Manji are in lots of trouble, especially since man-thing is 50' tall and has lots of excess plant matter to heal himself with, should you even hurt him. Take into account that his body can be controlled by Blackheath, these 2 are tied up with man-thing vines and burnt to a crisp

your rock thrower and your gunner are entirely useless against man-thing, so provided they dont die from asthma or dizzle, Man-thing just rushes over and burns them too



no problem

RESPECT man-thing

The other was bullshit , also those bullets had had their momentum seriously run down by spider dodging them. These bullets are also armour piercing

That fear thing would be a valid point , if my team had any fear.

The captain is an emotionless soldier ready to do his duty without hesitation , he has mastered his own body so much that their is never any fear. Luffy is always happy and is never afraid (seriously it's freaking creepy the kid is ether angry or happy) Manji is never afraid because he knows that he can't be killed because of the kessen-chu . Rip is never afraid ether , the Only time she has ever shown fear was when alucard came for her. But that had little to do with alucard in general sense but more-over because he was a physical representation of samiel.

Also , it's a mountain . There's very little vegetation to regenerate with , and considering that were going to be kicking it off the mountain it's going for a ring out....

Originally posted by grey fox
The other was bullshit , also those bullets had had their momentum seriously run down by spider dodging them. These bullets are also armour piercing

That fear thing would be a valid point , if my team had any fear.

The captain is an emotionless soldier ready to do his duty without hesitation , he has mastered his own body so much that their is never any fear. Luffy is always happy and is never afraid (seriously it's freaking creepy the kid is ether angry or happy) Manji is never afraid because he knows that he can't be killed because of the kessen-chu . Rip is never afraid ether , the Only time she has ever shown fear was when alucard came for her. But that had little to do with alucard in general sense but more-over because he was a physical representation of samiel.

Also , it's a mountain . There's very little vegetation to regenerate with , and considering that were going to be kicking it off the mountain it's going for a ring out....

grey fox, everyone

my sincerest appologies

while I dont think I've lost just yet (Hell, i think the man-thing blackheath combo probably breaks the killability limit for the tourney) I am going to pull out and kinda just watch

I couldn't imagine how taxing something like this would be to do

you guys are machines, lol

awwww...
i put all my money on you inamalist. I had you for the one to take dizzle and his team down. This makes me a sad panda.

Originally posted by inamilist
grey fox, everyone

my sincerest appologies

while I dont think I've lost just yet (Hell, i think the man-thing blackheath combo probably breaks the killability limit for the tourney) I am going to pull out and kinda just watch

I couldn't imagine how taxing something like this would be to do

you guys are machines, lol

I shall kick as much ass as i can in your name inamilist.

So what's happening here?? I gave up with all the confusion (and having to be a judge for the finals).

Who should I be voting for? And has anyone toppled the unholy bastard that is Godlike?

Dr Light and Thor and powerhouse and my 6 superpowered Duplicate Boys.......Ive got the most scans, the best offense, and a damn good defense......thats who you should be voting for....

Originally posted by DigiMark007
So what's happening here?? I gave up with all the confusion (and having to be a judge for the finals).

Who should I be voting for? And has anyone toppled the unholy bastard that is Godlike?

Actually, I withdrew from the fighting, because upholding the rules, debating for our team, and being completely impartial is all but impossible. And even if I'm not trying to be unfair, anything, regardless of whether I'm in the right or not, looks like an attempt to cut down my opponent enough to get a win. Because no one can really beat GODLIKE, they can simply try to cheat.

Yeah though, there really hasn't been anything happening here. It'll close on Sunday, if anyone wants to keep fighting, that's always cool, but don't bother attacking me. (or inamilist, as he pulled out because the tourney was consuming his soul, or something)

Ha, I could probably enter now and win...

Originally posted by illadelph12
I have Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star), Death's Head II, Animal Man and Karate Kid.

My team hovers above this laughable team with full sonics on to screw them up.... then we all just blast the hell out of them with Repulsors

Another easy win!

Sneaky bastard!!!!

(I will have a retort, I've been busy lately. My B-day was Monday and I've been kickin it.)

Originally posted by Dizzle
(or inamilist, as he pulled out because the tourney was consuming his soul, or something)

Oh...he's one of those hippies, eh?

You know, the ones with "soul" and all.

I sacrificed mine about a year ago for some good Namor feats...