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In SG's realm, who takes it?
On neutral ground, who takes it?

Shuma's dimension- possibly a stalemate, but most likely Shuma

Neutral ground- Spectre obviously.

why would spectre lose i mean strange beat him cause he absorbed his power spectre does that

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Shuma's dimension- possibly a stalemate, but most likely Shuma

Neutral ground- Spectre obviously.

I agree.

spectre owns him no matter were it is shazam didnt win and he was in his own realm

I dunno how good Shoma would fair but Spectre has killed his DC ripoff koth shoggoth. That doesn't of course means that it guarantees the win or if Shoma is exactly as powerful as koth, but that should give an idea of how he'd fair against such creatures.

Originally posted by Mider
why would spectre lose i mean strange beat him cause he absorbed his power spectre does that
No, he did it be becoming Shuma Gorath then pulling a seppuku.

my point is if strange can do it spectre can do it with 100 times more ease

Spectre has more power than Strange.
But, Strange has more tricks up his sleeve, can call upon other Spectre-level beings, spells, tricks, and is probably more flexible than Spectre.

fate once defeated spectre but spectre then raised his power level and defeated fate's source of power nabu so basically if spectre wanted he could kill the vishanti and strange would be virtually powerless

But, we don't know if the same rules apply to the Vishanti.
We don't know where their powers come from. If they are limitless. If they come from another being, or beings higher than themselves. Etc.
We already know that the Spectre is not from the Marvel Universe, so he can't hold any control over their dimensions, or the sources of their power.
He is kinda going to have to fight them "as is".

what comic does shuma gorath appear in?

Dr Strange comics. here's a good showing. Credit goes to Long Pig.

Originally posted by long pig
Ah, finally the full Shuma fight.

At this point, Strange has become a master of Black and White magic.


http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4973/shuma10qy.th.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3667/shuma27xe.th.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2422/shuma34hz.th.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5329/shuma41gu.th.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/3023/shuma57am.th.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/193/shuma65qc.th.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1671/shuma78yk.th.jpg

what comic is that? is that only one comic or more then one what comic is it?

Originally posted by Mider
my point is if strange can do it spectre can do it with 100 times more ease

Once a tool, always a tool.

This Website has all of his appearance. http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/shumagorath.htm

Originally posted by Mider
fate once defeated spectre but spectre then raised his power level and defeated fate's source of power nabu so basically if spectre wanted he could kill the vishanti and strange would be virtually powerless Fate never beat Spectre, their first meeting in Year One, Fate knew he would die fighting Spectre. He was also shown fighting Nabu at the fall of Saddam and Gammorah and defeating him there. Then finally defeating Nabu again in DOV Special.

You know what Spectre did to Koth Shughoth, the same Lovecraftian creature him and Shuma Gorath are both ripped from?

He entered it's realm, then punched it in the head, and created a flash a light and wiped it from existance.

Originally posted by Juntai
He entered it's realm, then punched it in the head, and created a flash a light and wiped it from existance.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Which is exactly what I think when I see Spectre vs most anything.

spectre

Spectre

cheers

Spectre, if he's not jobbing

Spite, SG is a powerful guy but c'mon....Spectre is like the right hand of God. Spectre could take Thanos w/IG so I doubt SG could do anything to him. Spectre 10/10

still spectre

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Spite, SG is a powerful guy but c'mon....Spectre is like the right hand of God. Spectre could take Thanos w/IG so I doubt SG could do anything to him. Spectre 10/10 Couldnt take the ig.

But Spectre does win this matchup.

Spectre anywhere

Spectre