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Bat Team:
Batman
Robin (Tim Drake)
Batgirl (Cassie)
Nightwing
Huntress (let's just assume for this fight that she's a member of the team)

Team 2:
Daredevil
Captain America
Lady Shiva
Stick
Wolverine

Each team gets 3 days to prepare. Who wins?

people say that batgirl is the best fighter than batman, but i dont see her beating up captain america or wolvie. so team 2 wins

This is Batgirl Cass who's able to predict opponent's move. I think she'd do just fine against them.

yeah but team two has captain america, wolverine and daredevil, their like part of the top ten street level fighters marvel has. they have more stength than team bat. without team batman's gagets and gizmos, they would lose.

Originally posted by spideycarnage
yeah but team two has captain america, wolverine and daredevil, their like part of the top ten street level fighters marvel has. they have more stength than team bat. without team batman's gagets and gizmos, they would lose.

I gave each team three days of prep.

bat girl can prodict moves thats good. ecpt wolverine and DD due to there senses cna do the same thing. also wolverien went beserker she would have no way of prodicting his moves. also he can fake telepaths out of thinking he wills trike one way but then he wills trike another....so even with out goign beserker he could trick her quite easiliy.

Originally posted by capt it up
bat girl can prodict moves thats good. ecpt wolverine and DD due to there senses cna do the same thing. also wolverien went beserker she would have no way of prodicting his moves. also he can fake telepaths out of thinking he wills trike one way but then he wills trike another....so even with out goign beserker he could trick her quite easiliy.

Okay:

1) When was the last times you saw Wolverine use his senses to predict the moves of other people? And if you have some, post some pics.

2) The teams have three days of prep, so it wouldn't come down to how Batgirl would fare against the other members of the team. She would more than likely face off with Lady Shiva anyway considering she knows her the best and has also faced off with her many times in the past.

wow, now this would be a really good fight, phenomenal teamwork vs major talent and abilities on a street level....hmm i think w/ prep though team bats would win, batman could come up w/ somethin to take down Wolverine & the Cap, which would be the biggest threats IMO. Batgirl(Cassandra Cain) beats Lady Shiva after a hard, long fought battle, Nightwing gets a sonic from batman since there's prep n beats DD...Robin/Huntress take down Stick after a long hard fought h2h battle as well...and Batman engages Wolvie and Cap long enough for the rest of the team to win their battles hten come in all at once n overwhelm them w/ force, gadgets, stealth ect. Team Batman 7/10

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay:

1) When was the last times you saw Wolverine use his senses to predict the moves of other people? And if you have some, post some pics.

2) The teams have three days of prep, so it wouldn't come down to how Batgirl would fare against the other members of the team. She would more than likely face off with Lady Shiva anyway considering she knows her the best and has also faced off with her many times in the past.
heres one.

Originally posted by braz
wow, now this would be a really good fight, phenomenal teamwork vs major talent and abilities on a street level....hmm i think w/ prep though team bats would win, batman could come up w/ somethin to take down Wolverine & the Cap, which would be the biggest threats IMO. Batgirl(Cassandra Cain) beats Lady Shiva after a hard, long fought battle, Nightwing gets a sonic from batman since there's prep n beats DD...Robin/Huntress take down Stick after a long hard fought h2h battle as well...and Batman engages Wolvie and Cap long enough for the rest of the team to win their battles hten come in all at once n overwhelm them w/ force, gadgets, stealth ect. Team Batman 7/10
batman could not handly capt and wolverine for more then a few seconds at best if they attack him togather.
also stick would beat robin and hunter in battle quite easiliy
stealth? how could they sneak up on wolverine or DD

Originally posted by capt it up
heres one.

Well that's to be as expected. He could smell the guy rushing in at him. My question is, are his senses good enough to where he can sense what attack is coming next in a h2h fight much like DD does?

Originally posted by capt it up
batman could not handly capt and wolverine for more then a few seconds at best if they attack him togather.
also stick would beat robin and hunter in battle quite easiliy
stealth? how could they sneak up on wolverine or DD

Actually, Wolverine wouldn't be in the fight for more than a couple of seconds as well as DD. The sonics would hurt both of them.

God, team 1.

Batman and his clan with all his toys vs a guy with a stick, somebody with claws and some dude with a shield?lol

Batman and his toys all the way.

^

Originally posted by batdude123
Well that's to be as expected. He could smell the guy rushing in at him. My question is, are his senses good enough to where he can sense what attack is coming next in a h2h fight much like DD does?
yes and that feats perfect example. he smell a dude who moves at the spped of lightnihg and new actauly how he was gunna be attacked.
DD hearing is only slightly better then wolverine and wolverien sense of smell is only slightly better then DD.
also wolverine and captain america run is good example of how wolverine can sense people moves and fake out teleptaths.

Originally posted by capt it up
batman could not handly capt and wolverine for more then a few seconds at best if they attack him togather.
also stick would beat robin and hunter in battle quite easiliy
stealth? how could they sneak up on wolverine or DD

ehh, i never said he'd use stealth on DD, nightwing gets a sonic from batman and uses it on DD n beats him himself...and i think if they really put their hearts into it w/ their superior team work, gadgets, Robin and Huntress would beat Stick...Batman engages Cap via stealth, deception he learned in his training, and while batmans jumpin around on rooftops glidin, hangin n jumpin from grapnel jump lines n what not, wolverine's sittin there like wtf as well, even though he knows he's present, and hes near because of his senses, its not like batman would jump out of the shadows n attack wolvie and cap, hell no, he'd get beat, and thats only when his senses are effective in that manner, to protect him from getting hurt and to know when danger's near, but w/ the senses its not like wolvie's gunna find him n kill him...i mean, first of all, hows wolvie gettin on top a skyscraper like batman? he doesnt have a grapple gun, and his senses just tell him someone's there, like in X-Men 2 when they attacked the mansion, wolverine sensed it, thats because they were attacking him, batman wouldnt be attcking, so he'd just simply be like cap n only know that batmans near, somewhere.

Originally posted by batdude123
Actually, Wolverine wouldn't be in the fight for more than a couple of seconds as well as DD. The sonics would hurt both of them.
actauly that would not take wolverine out at all. yes it hurt but take wolverien out hell no he heal from it. also thunder claps are much louder then that and they have yet to put wolverine out of a fight actauly they just make him mader.

Originally posted by capt it up
yes and that feats perfect example. he smell a dude who moves at the spped of lightnihg and new actauly how he was gunna be attacked.
DD hearing is only slightly better then wolverine and wolverien sense of smell is only slightly better then DD.
also wolverine and captain america run is good example of how wolverine can sense people moves and fake out teleptaths.
Wolverine can smell people that move as fast as lightning?Bullshit

Originally posted by braz
ehh, i never said he'd use stealth on DD, nightwing gets a sonic from batman and uses it on DD n beats him himself...and i think if they really put their hearts into it w/ their superior team work, gadgets, Robin and Huntress would beat Stick...Batman engages Cap via stealth, deception he learned in his training, and while batmans jumpin around on rooftops glidin, hangin n jumpin from grapnel jump lines n what not, wolverine's sittin there like wtf as well, even though he knows he's present, and hes near because of his senses, its not like batman would jump out of the shadows n attack wolvie and cap, hell no, he'd get beat, and thats only when his senses are effective in that manner, to protect him from getting hurt and to know when danger's near, but w/ the senses its not like wolvie's gunna find him n kill him...i mean, first of all, hows wolvie gettin on top a skyscraper like batman? he doesnt have a grapple gun, and his senses just tell him someone's there, like in X-Men 2 when they attacked the mansion, wolverine sensed it, thats because they were attacking him, batman wouldnt be attcking, so he'd just simply be like cap n only know that batmans near, somewhere.
actauly wolverien and DD could sense the very location bat was in in a matter of seconds if not faster. u dont need to be a threat for them to know were u are thats spider sense no hyper sense. wolverine sense of smeel so storng that u could be miles away and he easiliy find u. also wolverine has smelled double ganger when even DD was unable to tell they were fakes. both wolverine and DD would know were batman was befor batman even saw them.
skick has mistical powers firts off and trained DD and electra and he far superior fighter to both of them. they will even admitt they can't take him at all.

Originally posted by badabing
Wolverine can smell people that move as fast as lightning?Bullshit
they were hidng he smell and heared them and new how he was going to be attacked it as simple as that.

Batman could just invent some new gadgets for this special occasion anyway and use those against the team two. Gas pellets, liquid nitrogen capsules, electric batarangs, exploding batarangs, mini explosives, sonics, batarangs, flash bangs, etc. Batman and his team would win this fight 7/10 times.

Originally posted by capt it up
actauly wolverien and DD could sense the very location bat was in in a matter of seconds if not faster. u dont need to be a threat for them to know were u are thats spider sense no hyper sense. wolverine sense of smeel so storng that u could be miles away and he easiliy find u. also wolverine has smelled double ganger when even DD was unable to tell they were fakes. both wolverine and DD would know were batman was befor batman even saw them.


yea, but how would he reach batman, like i said hes on top of buildings jumpin around

Originally posted by batdude123
Batman could just invent some new gadgets for this special occasion anyway and use those against the team two. Gas pellets, liquid nitrogen capsules, electric batarangs, exploding batarangs, mini explosives, sonics, batarangs, flash bangs, etc. Batman and his team would win this fight 7/10 times.

true.

Originally posted by braz
yea, but how would he reach batman, like i said hes on top of buildings jumpin around
u dont read wolverine do u? both wolverien and DD can get up biulding amazaingly fast using there agility.

Originally posted by batdude123
Batman could just invent some new gadgets for this special occasion anyway and use those against the team two. Gas pellets, liquid nitrogen capsules, electric batarangs, exploding batarangs, mini explosives, sonics, batarangs, flash bangs, etc. Batman and his team would win this fight 7/10 times.
non of which would take wolverine out or hit him for that matter

^ You're right. Wolverine has built up an immunity to liquid nitrogen which is -330 degrees Fahrenheit or something like that.

Originally posted by batdude123
^ You're right. Wolverine has built up an immunity to liquid nitrogen which is -330 degrees Fahrenheit or something like that.
again he could dodge it or even if hit he will heal. but the fact is I think ur right bat team with prep take it7-10 im just saying that shit u named is not likly to take wolverine out

Originally posted by capt it up
u dont read wolverine do u? both wolverien and DD can get up biulding amazaingly fast using there agility.

naw, just spawn n batman mainly

Originally posted by batdude123
Bat Team:
Batman
Robin (Tim Drake)
Batgirl (Cassie)
Nightwing
Huntress (let's just assume for this fight that she's a member of the team)

Team 2:
Daredevil
Captain America
Lady Shiva
Stick
Wolverine

Each team gets 3 days to prepare. Who wins?

Team 2 wins (unless Bats can come up with one heck of prep in 3 days).

Think of it this way: Team 2 has some of the best H2H fighters in Marvel, and one of the best H2H exponents in DC (Shiva).

Team 1 also has some extremely good martial artists, but it has a severe weakness in Huntress. She may be able to beat up 10 thugs, but she wouldn't be any good against any of the people in T2 (and some, like Shiva and Stick, could probably drop her in literally less than a second).

That immediately leaves Team 1 one person short.

Then you have Batman, Batgirl, Robin and Nightwing against Shiva, Stick, Wolverine, Cap, and DareDevil.
Now, Batgirl will have her hands full with Shiva. She will not be much help since she will be too embroiled trying to kill/not-be-killed by Shiva.
Batman will be too busy with, say, Captain America. Again this would require all his attention.

This leaves Robin and Nightwing facing off against Wolverine, DareDevil, and Stick.
They go down.

Now Batgirl is with Shiva, and Batman with Cap.
And slinking up all around is Wolvie, DD, and Stick.

Team one is finished.

The match was quite skewed, particularly since Huntress was nothing more than deadweight. She may be able to handle gangs of thugs, but she really cannot do anything against ANY member of Team 2. She may as well have not been there (since she would go down in less than a second if she comes into contact with someone like Stick or Shiva).

Team one loses .....unless Batman spends those 3 days working on a prep plan, and even then any physical engagement would lead to team 1 losing.

Skewed matchup IMO.

Originally posted by batdude123
This is Batgirl Cass who's able to predict opponent's move. I think she'd do just fine against them.

She may be able to do well. So would Batman.
But who would Robin face against in T2? Let's say he goes against DareDevil.
Then who will Nightwing face? Let's say he goes against Stick.

Then who will Huntress face?
Every person in T2 can defeat Huntress with ease, thus she goes down fast and T1 is sort one person. Meaning that either Captain America, Lady Shiva, Wolverine, Stick, or DareDevil will be free to double team one member of the other team.

Let's assume Huntress faced off against Wolverine and was impaled, and thus wolverine moves to help (say) Daredevil against Robin.
Robin goes down.

Then Wolverine and Daredevil help Stick against Nightwing.

While all this is happening Batman would be too busy with Captain America to help out, and Batgirl would be too busy with Shiva.

And now Wolverine, Daredevil and Stick are free to interfere with those fights.

Huntress is a HUGE liability to the first team. She cannot face off against DD (simply put he is too good for her ....DD needs at least Nightwing to mess with him),she cannot do anything against Wolverine, Stick would finish her in a second, Captain America is beyond her, and Lady Shiva would kill her so fast she probably wouldn't even notice it.
To make matters worse not only is she not able to defeat any of the people in T2, but she wouldn't even be able to challenge them long enough for Batman/girl, Nightwing or Robin to take care of the other cats.

Originally posted by spetznaz
She may be able to do well. So would Batman.
But who would Robin face against in T2? Let's say he goes against DareDevil.
Then who will Nightwing face? Let's say he goes against Stick.

Then who will Huntress face?
Every person in T2 can defeat Huntress with ease, thus she goes down fast and T1 is sort one person. Meaning that either Captain America, Lady Shiva, Wolverine, Stick, or DareDevil will be free to double team one member of the other team.

Let's assume Huntress faced off against Wolverine and was impaled, and thus wolverine moves to help (say) Daredevil against Robin.
Robin goes down.

Then Wolverine and Daredevil help Stick against Nightwing.

While all this is happening Batman would be too busy with Captain America to help out, and Batgirl would be too busy with Shiva.

And now Wolverine, Daredevil and Stick are free to interfere with those fights.

Huntress is a HUGE liability to the first team. She cannot face off against DD (simply put he is too good for her ....DD needs at least Nightwing to mess with him),she cannot do anything against Wolverine, Stick would finish her in a second, Captain America is beyond her, and Lady Shiva would kill her so fast she probably wouldn't even notice it.
To make matters worse not only is she not able to defeat any of the people in T2, but she wouldn't even be able to challenge them long enough for Batman/girl, Nightwing or Robin to take care of the other cats.

Alright, I get it. Huntress sucks. Let's replace her with Robin (Jason Todd). Now who'd win?

From a good distance away, Wolverine can smell what's coming, but I'm giving this one to Batgod's team.

Originally posted by batdude123
Alright, I get it. Huntress sucks. Let's replace her with Robin (Jason Todd). Now who'd win?

LOL. Didn't mean it that way (just saying that Huntress is outclassed here, although against 'normal' humans she is a beast).

stick would hand night wing his ass in under a minut. just thought I throw that out there

In a fight its Team 2 by a longshot

however, 3 days prep and they are all caught in some bat-forcefield before they can attack

With prep- Team 1 by BFR or containment