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(I was going to post this in the Religion forum, but I felt it belonged here since it doesn't go into religion all that much)

1) Take a look at all the natural disasters occuring at this moment. Over time they've been getting worse and worse.

2) Industrialization has been killing the Earth for the last 150 years (pollution, chopping down more trees than we need)

3) The Mayan calendar ends on December 21, 2012 AD. This signifies the start of a new age (either through spiritual or physical means, no one knows yet) and could very well be true (the sun's position correlates with the Galactic Equator, the center line of the Milky Way, on both that day and at the beginning of the Mayan calendar).

I'm not trying to relay this information in a pessimistc way, just to give knowledge about what's going on to everyone else.

Resources:
CNN Headline News (current events)
d20 Apocalypse Handbook (included information about the end of the Mayan calendar, which led me to do research)
http://www.google.com/ (to find all the following sites)
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/maya.htm
http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/tilmari/tilmari3.htm

It should be an exciting year that 2012, can't wait to see what happens.

I agree with debbie. I voted yes because im so curious to see in what manner it would end. and if it actually happened the amount of panic an riots all over the world. The madness etc. That'd be great.

I've never been one to trust anicent practises. But for the hell of it, I think the end of a STABLE world is here. For some reason I don't see Nuclear weapons being used, and the rest just crumbling.

Originally posted by KingDubya
(I was going to post this in the Religion forum, but I felt it belonged here since it doesn't go into religion all that much)

1) Take a look at all the natural disasters occuring at this moment. Over time they've been getting worse and worse.

There's been FAR worse natural disasters in the past, by far. Also, they've been predicting the end of the world since the Dark Ages.



Yes, but so did volcano eruptions such as Vesuvius, and Mount Saint Helen, severe weather changes, and serious disruptions like the meteorite that landed in Siberia, or the one that landed in present day Yucatan.



Meh, Mayan calender ending doesn't mean The End.

About 5 billion years to go.

Yes, I definately think the end is near...

Bam I was 4 or 5 and I have pictures ot Mount ST Helens erupting from my house the entire cloud........................the whole shabang........


The end is near my friend indeed you are correct however I have found the way to alleviate your suffering and fears.....................send a check to me worth the remander of your net worth and I will look over it for you when the day comes and you leave us.

I mean if you believe the end is coming just give it all up to me you have nothing to lose remember you are dead anyway............at least I'll go to your funeral!

Humanity always said that the end was near since they exist. People always thought that the time where they live in, is the most important one, and that their current problems were the worst ones that ever happened. In other times, things were not easy too. Probably they were even worst.

i sure hope so

Im pretty sure the earth has been alive and kicking for a couple of BILLION years....and thats a pretty long time. Why the hell would it abruptly end just because man came along and got these things called brains and said the world was onna end...Doesn't make a whole bunch of sense to me...I think humans are just gossip FREAKS and it's just a bad rumour thats been told a little too many times to a couple of the wrong people.

I'd be more worried about the death of individuality than the death of everything; my car has a barcode, my credit cards, driver's license, CVS card, etc.

It's turning into some kind of dystopia.

The end comes to people every day.

Isn't the sun supposed 2 explode and take our starsystem with it billions of years from now?

Originally posted by Da preacher
Isn't the sun supposed 2 explode and take our starsystem with it billions of years from now?
That doesn't mean it won't be destroyed or that humanity won't die off before then.

Originally posted by Da preacher
Isn't the sun supposed 2 explode and take our starsystem with it billions of years from now?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
About 5 billion years to go.

For those saying that they disagree with me, here's a clarification of why I posted this thread:

The list compiled above is why I think the world could end in the next decade or so (emphasis on COULD). This does not mean that my opinion is static, nor does it mean that I regularly stand on the side of an NYC street holding a sign that says "The End Is Near! Repent! Repent!" (because I don't).

Originally posted by KingDubya
For those saying that they disagree with me, here's a clarification of why I posted this thread:

The list compiled above is why I think the world could end in the next decade or so (emphasis on COULD). This does not mean that my opinion is static, nor does it mean that I regularly stand on the side of an NYC street holding a sign that says "The End Is Near! Repent! Repent!" (because I don't).

I could make a sign for you if you like.

Yeah, photoshop a sign for ya.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
About 5 billion years to go.

shock





And KMC will be there.

Originally posted by Mindship
shock
And KMC will be there.



KMC final post by Shakyamunison15634427869005

no they aren't. We just have CNN, Fox News and MSNBC now. Natural disasters have not increased in strength or numbers from the past. The only thing affecting humans that have increased are humans living in areas that natural disasters affect and our knowledge of knowing of all natural disasters in real time due to the media.........both are human faults, nothing in nature has changed.



pollutants are not killing the earth. There is a possibility of global warming but even that could not kill the earth......there are plants and animals both that live quite comfortably in the hottest deserts of our planet. I doubt the mean temperatures of our planet are going to rise by more than 50 degrees Farenheit any time soon....or in the forseeable future. Notice I said possibility of global warming. The earth naturally goes through cycles of warming and cooling......this is what brings on ice-ages, only to warm back up. Humans have not been on this earth long enough to record the natural warming/cooling cycles. Temperatures on our planet are warming, no doubt........but they were also warming long before humans ever stepped foot on our planet only to cool back off.....warm back up....cool back off..etc...etc. We may merely be in a warming cycle that will be followed by the onset of the next ice age.

as for the chopping down trees. That's horseshit. If we didn't chop down trees for timber there would be less trees than there are today as we wouldn't be planting new ones. We plant more trees than we will ever cut down....specificly so that they will be there to cut down for timber.



It's just a f'n calender for god's sake. There have been many, many, many calenders used in the past....as a matter of fact, there are a few others that are still used. What makes the Mayan's so damn special? Oh yes, they must have been intellectually superior and more knowledable than we are today.......that's why we can't throw a stone of our back porch without hitting 4 Mayans in the head, right? You put so much stock into a simple calender.......trying to give it meaning that it was never given.......it keeps track of time.....that's it......same as the one sitting on your desk. When the calender on your desk ends, I assure you, the world will not end......you'll just buy a new one.

^ don't lie to him, of course the world is going to come to an end, and it will all be his fault. jk

The universe is not oneself and at the same time it is.

Well put, Evil Dead.

It is coming to an end. In the next 10 years? Maybe, but I think it will be about 20-30 years. Mayan calendar is kinda strange

god ill decide when the end will come

2006

Originally posted by lord xyz
2006


Oh noes.

stop being so goth(hippy mode)
people around us decide the fate of the planet,and the guy upstairs,so don't worry man.

The guy upstairs? My dad?

Originally posted by KingDubya
(I was going to post this in the Religion forum, but I felt it belonged here since it doesn't go into religion all that much)

1) Take a look at all the natural disasters occuring at this moment. Over time they've been getting worse and worse.

2) Industrialization has been killing the Earth for the last 150 years (pollution, chopping down more trees than we need)

3) The Mayan calendar ends on December 21, 2012 AD. This signifies the start of a new age (either through spiritual or physical means, no one knows yet) and could very well be true (the sun's position correlates with the Galactic Equator, the center line of the Milky Way, on both that day and at the beginning of the Mayan calendar).

I'm not trying to relay this information in a pessimistc way, just to give knowledge about what's going on to everyone else.

Resources:
CNN Headline News (current events)
d20 Apocalypse Handbook (included information about the end of the Mayan calendar, which led me to do research)
http://www.google.com/ (to find all the following sites)
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/maya.htm
http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/tilmari/tilmari3.htm


1. Bad disasters have happened forever
2. We're slowly getting better with pollution.
3. Screw the Mayan calender, that's no proof.

Originally posted by Magee
The guy upstairs? My dad?

God, ya nitwit.

what kind of end? end of world or end of life?

The End of Intolerance, Prejudice, and Close mindedness?


SOON my freind....SOON

Oh yes , let's really be afraid of a calender created by people who were so worthless , that the spanish took 170 years to finish wiping 90% of them out.

Grey Fox, i agree with ur point about the LUDACRIS of beleiving a calender that was made centuries ago, but please dont refer to the Mayan people as worthless.

That is a horribly Racist comment, its extremely disrespectul , and has no place on the forums.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Grey Fox, i agree with ur point about the LUDACRIS of beleiving a calender that was made centuries ago, but please dont refer to the Mayan people as worthless.

That is a horribly Racist comment, its extremely disrespectul , and has no place on the forums.

I'm not saying their race is worthless , just their achievements.

If Armegeddon is near, Scientist made a theory the sun will explode causing a black hole, To suck up everything. But who knows, Scientists theory thinks it will be in a billion of years.

5 billion

No, of course not.

Originally posted by Evil Dead

pollutants are not killing the earth. There is a possibility of global warming but even that could not kill the earth......there are plants and animals both that live quite comfortably in the hottest deserts of our planet. I doubt the mean temperatures of our planet are going to rise by more than 50 degrees Farenheit any time soon....or in the forseeable future. Notice I said possibility of global warming. The earth naturally goes through cycles of warming and cooling......this is what brings on ice-ages, only to warm back up. Humans have not been on this earth long enough to record the natural warming/cooling cycles. Temperatures on our planet are warming, no doubt........but they were also warming long before humans ever stepped foot on our planet only to cool back off.....warm back up....cool back off..etc...etc. We may merely be in a warming cycle that will be followed by the onset of the next ice age.

as for the chopping down trees. That's horseshit. If we didn't chop down trees for timber there would be less trees than there are today as we wouldn't be planting new ones. We plant more trees than we will ever cut down....specificly so that they will be there to cut down for timber.


Here's the dealio: pollutants are not "killing the Earth", per se. It's highly unlikely that global warming will ever wipe out life on Earth. Life has persisted through so many climate changes and mass extinctions that it's unwise to say that life will ever be wiped out until Earth is physically destroyed.

So no, we aren't putting Earth itself in danger by driving Hummers and cutting down trees. What we are putting in danger is ourselves. We know so little about what degree of change we as a species would be able to endure that it's extremely short-sighted to assume that just because life as a whole will be fine, so will we. The other thing is, even if we survive through drastic climate changes, I don't WANT to live a world where Class 5 hurricanes are common, coastal cities are washed away because of oceans rising, and glaciers are nonexistent. Don't all jump on me for being a wishy-washy environmentalist hippie *****, but I kind of like Earth the way it is now, what with snow and ice and trees and such.

Besides which, what would it hurt to stop producing such atrocious amounts of greenhouse gases? You are truly a selfish son of a ***** if you love your SUV so much that you won't stop driving it if the future of the human race might be in danger because of it. It's absolutely disgusting that there are people who deny global warming simply because it "might" not exist and they're too fat and lazy to just stop driving a car.

Your point about trees is completely laughable. Trees wouldn't just stop growing if we weren't planting them—what the hell are you on? Even if they would, which is an amazingly stupid thing to believe, we are cutting down FAR more trees than we are planting. We don't just cut them down for timber, we also burn them down to create space, which obviously doesn't denote replanting.

i can honestly say that i dont know if the end is near or not asnd nor do i care...the question u should be asking urself is how much fun did you ahve while u were hear....did u enjoy the time u spent alive...the world could end tomorrow and if it did would you be able to say that you ahd no regrets. Carpe Diem my friends

The End is Not Near because the "end of the age" happened nearly 2000 years ago. For centuries many have believed the end is near because they have based their understanding of Bible prophecy on what appears to be faulty assumptions.

Why should "the end" be near??

There are no more natural disasters than "usual" we just hear about them from all over the world "brought to you, live by..."

Sure, we could be hit by an asteroid tomorrow without any astronomer ever detecting it... But then, that's bound to happen sooner or later (let's hope later so we'll be able to DO something).

Just today I heard on the news that researcher believe the AIDS-epidemic may finally be levelling off... Tons of relief aid is going to Indonesia...
Why not believe that things might actually get a little BETTER in the future???

Originally posted by TheOne101
Im pretty sure the earth has been alive and kicking for a couple of BILLION years....and thats a pretty long time. Why the hell would it abruptly end just because man came along and got these things called brains and said the world was onna end...Doesn't make a whole bunch of sense to me...I think humans are just gossip FREAKS and it's just a bad rumour thats been told a little too many times to a couple of the wrong people.

i think the world is going to end in 2012 ther are way to many things pointing to it the bible code the mayans the chinese the hopi indians actually numerous indian tribes ive read some on it and i dont think its going to be the end of the world just the earth shaking off all the bad karma we have put on it and also a merging of dimensions the 3rd and 4th the 4th will coexsist with the 3rd dut not interact and vice versa it was also fortold as the christian rapture if you dont beleive me just search for 2012 on the internet

I think the world is going to end with Y2K.

Originally posted by grey fox
Oh yes , let's really be afraid of a calender created by people who were so worthless , that the spanish took 170 years to finish wiping 90% of them out.

they weren't worthless, but yea i thnk the calendar is crap.. i mean they can see thousands of years ahead but cant see they are about to be killed?

Originally posted by KingDubya
Industrialization has been killing the Earth for the last 150 years (pollution, chopping down more trees than we need)We'll wise up to pollution before it's too late.

And as for the trees, it's not true. The companies that cut down trees for paper, etc. actually plant more trees that they cut down. It's the slow-growth hardwood rainforests we should be worried about, they took centuries to get to their peak.

The End Is Inevitable. Humans dont stay in one place. They stay in one place until all the natural resources are gone. Then they move to another place. Soon nothing will be left.

Originally posted by FoxMeister
The End Is Inevitable. Humans dont stay in one place. They stay in one place until all the natural resources are gone. Then they move to another place. Soon nothing will be left.

Please define "soon".

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please define "soon".

Im not sure what wasnt clear about soon but i meant as in in the near future. Not the one where its just an excuse to mess around and not really get around too it.

Originally posted by Alliance
I think the world is going to end with Y2K.

Egad! I better get down to my non-computerised bomb shelter.

Originally posted by FoxMeister
Im not sure what wasnt clear about soon but i meant as in in the near future. Not the one where its just an excuse to mess around and not really get around too it.

Then I disagree. If you meant soon like 6 billion years, then I would agree.

Touché

the end already happened we're just the children,grand children,and etc. of the survivors.but the world will end again...very soon

Honestly I have secretly wished that the world comes to an end. Things are bad out there people. The media won't really portray the extent of it because they would rather shelter the American people from the truth. But take a look at what's happening from a non-partisan source and you will soon realize the severity of things

I wonder what the "end" looks like. I bet its beautiful. The world will be silent forever. We will just be another planet with no life. We will only live in the parallel universe.

Originally posted by LordFear
Honestly I have secretly wished that the world comes to an end. Things are bad out there people. The media won't really portray the extent of it because they would rather shelter the American people from the truth. But take a look at what's happening from a non-partisan source and you will soon realize the severity of things

Well the world ending is hardly going to fix things.

nothing lasts 4 ever,not even the world

Originally posted by Atlantis001
Humanity always said that the end was near since they exist. People always thought that the time where they live in, is the most important one, and that their current problems were the worst ones that ever happened. In other times, things were not easy too. Probably they were even worst.

Yeah, but those were predictions made by men carrying sticks and stones. Today they carry nuclear weapons and are far more agitated then those in the old days.
The end is closer then ever before

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Yeah, but those were predictions made by men carrying sticks and stones. Today they carry nuclear weapons and are far more agitated then those in the old days.
The end is closer then ever before
But if you think of the nuclear weapons like bigger sticks and stones. They were there for the same purpose. I dont see how nuclear weapons change what we said years ago. The end is most likely to be nearer now than ever is right. But we shouldnt just do nothing. We have the choice to change when the end comes. But its not up to us. The ones who know what could be changed and how. It is up to the dumbasses in charge. Its all about power and we wont get rid of the weapons of mass destruction.

russia bombs the united states in 2015. As well as several other countries launch strikes of their own. This follows a civil war in the US that has already started now, But becomes obvious in the years 2011-2012.

okay, forget for a moment that an ancient civilisation predicted the end of the world.

the earth has been around for a long time, and its predicted to last for a long time as well, so dont you think, considering how long its been around and how long it will be around that theres a chance that in some of that time something really really bad happens?

uhh, i dont assume anything, so wether it will happen or not, i dont guess, i will take it if it comes. but i think an end of our civilisation may not be such a bad thing.

Depends in what sense, the end as in everyone dies and everything is wiped out. Or the end of this corrupt system to replaced by a new one.

either or, i dont really care anymore...

Originally posted by KingDubya
(I was going to post this in the Religion forum, but I felt it belonged here since it doesn't go into religion all that much)

1) Take a look at all the natural disasters occuring at this moment. Over time they've been getting worse and worse.

2) Industrialization has been killing the Earth for the last 150 years (pollution, chopping down more trees than we need)

3) The Mayan calendar ends on December 21, 2012 AD. This signifies the start of a new age (either through spiritual or physical means, no one knows yet) and could very well be true (the sun's position correlates with the Galactic Equator, the center line of the Milky Way, on both that day and at the beginning of the Mayan calendar).

I'm not trying to relay this information in a pessimistc way, just to give knowledge about what's going on to everyone else.

Resources:
CNN Headline News (current events)
d20 Apocalypse Handbook (included information about the end of the Mayan calendar, which led me to do research)
http://www.google.com/ (to find all the following sites)
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/maya.htm
http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/tilmari/tilmari3.htm The end of the age is aproximately 2150. And that's just astrology.

People have believed the end is near for over 2000 years. Are we right while they were all wrong? or is this just mankind's nature to dread the unknown?

I think we still have many years ahead of us.

I doubt the world'll end anytime soon, at least not while we're all around. I'd give it a few billion years.

It will probably happen so suddenly, one minute were doing our everyday thing, the next were rather surprised ghosts contemplating WTF happened ? After some space anomaly suddenly bent the plane we are in and everything folded in on itself.

Originally posted by Defiant1
People have believed the end is near for over 2000 years. Are we right while they were all wrong? or is this just mankind's nature to dread the unknown?

I think we still have many years ahead of us. It's a way of scaring and controlling the people.

Nuclear war is also just another way of scarring and controlling people. It takes a lot to trigger a nuclear war. Claims of destruction work because there are elements of truth to them...but our chances of survival are pretty good anyway. Most of the world right now is united in their desire to not have a nuclear war. I suspect our chances will continue to increase. Every nation with nuclear weapons has pretty much decided it isn't worth it to start one. Every nation without nuclear weapons is under the microscope of the nations that do have them.

Evolution is powerful. I'm betting life will probably survive as long as the earth does.

A friend of mine is sure some sort of war will break lose in the year 2012. I don't really know what to think, I understand though if people believe it with the Aztecs and stuff

Originally posted by replies in kind
The End is Not Near because the "end of the age" happened nearly 2000 years ago. For centuries many have believed the end is near because they have based their understanding of Bible prophecy on what appears to be faulty assumptions.

Yeah, "end of the world" is actually supposed to be "end of an age" which refers to astrology and some other seemingly irrelevant stuff.

James Lovelock believes that we're doomed. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/16956300/the_prophet_of_climate_change_james_lovelock

Originally posted by Rave X
A friend of mine is sure some sort of war will break lose in the year 2012. I don't really know what to think, I understand though if people believe it with the Aztecs and stuff

Yeah...we're all doomed.

Originally posted by Rave X
A friend of mine is sure some sort of war will break lose in the year 2012. I don't really know what to think, I understand though if people believe it with the Aztecs and stuff
Your friend's got quite an imagination.

we are all going to die one day anyway, it doesnt really matter when.

i think the end is near

people probably said that it would not end for another billions of years in ancient times...maybe the present time is billions of years time

Why does anyone ever even mention this? Every era thought it was over

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Your friend's got quite an imagination.

Yeah, he's a bit of a ... well, idiot sometimes.

Time is nothing but a human concept. If there is such a thing as fate. It operates in a non tangile realm of existence. There is no pre-set fate for the end of the world. Unless, the world engages in nuclear exchange or an asteroid smashes into us. The world is not going to suddenly end.

Look, i enjoy conspiracy theories as much as the next person. You have to realize however, that 95% of ALL conspiracy theories are bullshit supported by fabricated evidence or no evidence at all. No second Earth is hiding in our solar system waiting to make a triumphant return on the year 2012. There are no such thing as humanoid reptilian people planning to enslave humanity. There are no shadow people preying on us from parallel realms. Aliens are not observing Earth from space trying to decide what to do with us. This stuff can be fun, but unless you are of stable and sane mind, just like drugs, you should not be allowed to take part.

The end of humanity is not upon us. There will be undeniable warning signs pointing towards the extinction of humanity, again, unless every super nation suddenly decides it would be cool to launch a few dozen tsar bombs on each other, the end of humanity is far away. If you believe in the Bible, The antichrist will come to power uniting the world as one followed by a long period of peace before armageddon. I havent noticed an antichrist ( well, maybe hilary clinton) or long periods of peace. Focus your energies on things that are real and not on reptilians. You might actually get something out of life other than an unrewarding fairytale

I think the Nature is beyond such stats .These kind of stuff as you mentioned in your post can not do enough to put down Nature.I don't see that the the End of life on the planet earth is nearer.

Ok, you are talking about The End? But the End to what?

Even if we blow ourselves up in an all out staged and planned nuclear war the earth would not stop turning.

Even if we were to split our earth in two using Nikola Tesla's Deathray, the universe wouldnt stop.

So again, i ask, the End of what?

the end of your life is always near. The end of humanity is most likely a few million years off. The end of the planet is a few billion away

No the World is not coming to an end.

The end of the world is indeed nearer. We draw most of our energy from the Sun, rotating around on our Earth's axis, shedding light on all corners of the world. Since the survival of life on Earth is indeed dependent on the lifespan of our nearest star (the sun), and we know that a stars energy indeed dwindles over time, It would be safe to say that the end of the world as we know it is indeed closer and ever approaching. Not fast approaching by these terms, but approaching nontheless.

Many things can happen before this that can spell doom for Earth, but this is one sure-fire way for the Earth to end, and that is a supernova of our sun, and/or other stars in our galaxy that could have a significant impact upon our planet.

Global warming, pollution, disease, rot, famine, nuclear warfare, and Zeus casting a lightning bolt are some other subjective standpoints on how the Earth can or will end. I think nukes will kickstart the end and then disease and famine will take over and those who survive will start a new evolutionary stage for all species of Earth.

That's my theory Pretty sound imo

Originally posted by Rainx
The end of the world is indeed nearer. We draw most of our energy from the Sun, rotating around on our Earth's axis, shedding light on all corners of the world. Since the survival of life on Earth is indeed dependent on the lifespan of our nearest star (the sun), and we know that a stars energy indeed dwindles over time, It would be safe to say that the end of the world as we know it is indeed closer and ever approaching. Not fast approaching by these terms, but approaching nontheless.

Many things can happen before this that can spell doom for Earth, but this is one sure-fire way for the Earth to end, and that is a supernova of our sun, and/or other stars in our galaxy that could have a significant impact upon our planet.

Global warming, pollution, disease, rot, famine, nuclear warfare, and Zeus casting a lightning bolt are some other subjective standpoints on how the Earth can or will end. I think nukes will kickstart the end and then disease and famine will take over and those who survive will start a new evolutionary stage for all species of Earth.

That's my theory Pretty sound imo

Our sun will not supernova. It's mass is too small. The Sun will become a red giant and burn the Earth to a cinder before shrinking into a white dwarf.

Originally posted by Rainx
The end of the world is indeed nearer. We draw most of our energy from the Sun, rotating around on our Earth's axis, shedding light on all corners of the world. Since the survival of life on Earth is indeed dependent on the lifespan of our nearest star (the sun), and we know that a stars energy indeed dwindles over time, It would be safe to say that the end of the world as we know it is indeed closer and ever approaching. Not fast approaching by these terms, but approaching nontheless.

Many things can happen before this that can spell doom for Earth, but this is one sure-fire way for the Earth to end, and that is a supernova of our sun, and/or other stars in our galaxy that could have a significant impact upon our planet.

Global warming, pollution, disease, rot, famine, nuclear warfare, and Zeus casting a lightning bolt are some other subjective standpoints on how the Earth can or will end. I think nukes will kickstart the end and then disease and famine will take over and those who survive will start a new evolutionary stage for all species of Earth.

That's my theory Pretty sound imo

I honestly don't find it likely nukes are going to happen. So many people have been jam-packed with numerous different points made by singers, writers, artists and scientists that the "anti-nuclear" view is almost internalized into most people whose voice counts. Consequently, the exact same logic holds back the selling of Nuclear weapons to insane rulers that may use them...America, Russia, the rest of the UN and the rest of the nuclear powers on earth (if there are any) all agree that we're all in the nuclear soup-pot together, and that's why we won't blow each other up.

But ya know, here we are talking like we think we know something and we both know we're totally clueless!

Originally posted by Rainx
The end of the world is indeed nearer.

You really have no honest proof of that.

Originally posted by KingDubya
(I was going to post this in the Religion forum, but I felt it belonged here since it doesn't go into religion all that much)

1) Take a look at all the natural disasters occuring at this moment. Over time they've been getting worse and worse.

2) Industrialization has been killing the Earth for the last 150 years (pollution, chopping down more trees than we need)

3) The Mayan calendar ends on December 21, 2012 AD. This signifies the start of a new age (either through spiritual or physical means, no one knows yet) and could very well be true (the sun's position correlates with the Galactic Equator, the center line of the Milky Way, on both that day and at the beginning of the Mayan calendar).

I'm not trying to relay this information in a pessimistc way, just to give knowledge about what's going on to everyone else.

Resources:
CNN Headline News (current events)
d20 Apocalypse Handbook (included information about the end of the Mayan calendar, which led me to do research)
http://www.google.com/ (to find all the following sites)
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/maya.htm
http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/tilmari/tilmari3.htm


1) Natural disasters happen all the time-- the ones that happen to us will always seem more important than the ones that happed a long time ago.

2) Yes, pollution is a problem, but as technology improves and greenhouse gas emissions decrease, global warming can be curbed.
(not a lost cause... do your part... insert your most current enviro-nut speech here...)

3) The end of a calendar designed by people who cut the hearts out of other people, and then offer them to their god has no effect on the end of the world, in whatever form it takes.

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
You really have no honest proof of that.

Time has passed. Assuming the world will end someday it's safe to say that end is nearer now than it was in the past.

i wish i cud say the world can not continue on like this. unfortunately however, it seems that it is probable.