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Straight up fight, who wins?

Puck, more likely than not. He's stronger, faster, much more durable, and very skilled. (though not quite as much so as Cap) Hell, he's even a smaller target. Cap COULD pull a win, but I don't see it as very likely. Puck 8/10.

cap has beaten bigger and better than puck.....but I think puck could give a fight .......

Originally posted by Dizzle
Puck, more likely than not. He's stronger, faster, much more durable, and very skilled. (though not quite as much so as Cap) Hell, he's even a smaller target. Cap COULD pull a win, but I don't see it as very likely. Puck 8/10. how much could puck lift/press ....I HOPE hes not still in the 500 pound range I know he got upgraded is he a class 10 or what class is he in...

see this is hard to say. puck stats are good but capt seem like he could do this. ive seen wolverine punk puck a few times and though capt not as good stat wise capt is capt.
hmm im going puck 6/10

Originally posted by capt it up
ive seen wolverine punk puck a few times and though capt not as good stat wise capt is capt.


Ummm....when?
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Puck
The original Puck had enhanced agility and superhuman strength rivaling that of Spider-Man. He was also a trained soldier and formidable hand-to-hand combatant. After a run in with The Master of the World, his body was altered and compressed resulting into his tissue became akin to compressed rubber. The stats are from The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe - Master Edition #1

Agility: One of the most agile characters in the Marvel universe, even rivaling that of Spider-Man. He has superhuman agility, significantly beyond the natural limits of the human body. Prior to getting his upgrade, his speed and agility rivaled that of a 6' foot athlete even in his dwarf state. With his agility he can bounce off various things like a hockey puck and even now with his upgrade can do this feat to a greater extent.

Bull Fighter: Before he became a dwarf, he was a famous bullfighter in Spain in 1930's. They even said Eugene was better than Maera himself. Even Ernest Hemmingway was watching him and was quite impressed with his skills.

Durability: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained metahuman durability. Which allows Puck to withstand extreme temperatures and pressures, and virtually all toxins, corrosives, punctures and concussions without sustaining injury. As he said he became invulnerable, due to Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber.

Experience: Puck is very old; he was a soldier of fortune in the early 1900s. He has traveled the world and experienced many cultures, battle many foes and learned from it all. His age almost rivals that of Wolverine, however, Puck's age keeps changing in the comics. He has been in many battles for instance on the opposing side against Black Widow in the Tonkin Gulf in 1967. Also Wolverine recognized his battle tactics in Maracaibo and even battled with Modred to stop the Brass Bishop into getting into the new Tower of Babel. He also fought with Wolverine and Ernest Hemingway in the Spanish Civil War.

Fake Death: An ability he learned in the Orient, where he can place himself in a temporary death-like trance state. This can fool most people leaving them open for an attack.

Fighting Skills: Puck is one of the most skilled fighters in the Marvel universe. He knows a mixture of various martial arts, street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics. He even has such skill that allows him to sneak up on Wolverine, as he said "Who...? You! Well, well, well. I shoulda known you'd be the only one who could sneak up on me like that."

Intelligence: A very bright person even in the heat of battle has quoted Hamlet from time to time. In a battle with Atlanteans, he quoted. "Let the foils be brought the gentlemen willing, and the King hold his purpose, I will win for him if I can, if not, I will gain nothing but my shame and the odd hits!" He's a scholar and often reads works by Shakespeare and even in the past was friends with Ernest Hemmingway. Puck can also speak fluent Russian, Japanese, German and various other languages as well. He also has a great deal of knowledge about magic, folklore and magical rituals.

Reflexes: Even prior to his upgrade, Puck trained himself to be the best shape he could be and even had superhuman level reflexes, virtually instantaneous. He could act out many battle tactics in his head only in a fraction of a second and in the next heartbeat act.

Speed: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman speed. That's the ability to run 111-115 miles per hour

Stamina: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman stamina. That's the ability to sustain peak exertion before fatigue impairs performance up to a day.

Strength: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman strength. Prior to just being a dwarf he had peak human strength, but now he is Superhuman Class 10. That's the ability to press 2-10 tons.

Yoga: Trained by an old Hindu, named Dr.Srivinda, which allows Puck to slow his breathing and alter his body temperature. Even to the skill level being submerged into the freezing Arctic water for minutes without any problems at all. This was at the time when Puck hadn't had his upgrade yet.

Originally posted by capt it up
see this is hard to say. puck stats are good but capt seem like he could do this. ive seen wolverine punk puck a few times and though capt not as good stat wise capt is capt.
hmm im going puck 6/10 cap has good stats to, look under strenght level... http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Captain_America_%28Steve_Rogers%29

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm....when?
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Puck
The original Puck had enhanced agility and superhuman strength rivaling that of Spider-Man. He was also a trained soldier and formidable hand-to-hand combatant. After a run in with The Master of the World, his body was altered and compressed resulting into his tissue became akin to compressed rubber. The stats are from The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe - Master Edition #1

Agility: One of the most agile characters in the Marvel universe, even rivaling that of Spider-Man. He has superhuman agility, significantly beyond the natural limits of the human body. Prior to getting his upgrade, his speed and agility rivaled that of a 6' foot athlete even in his dwarf state. With his agility he can bounce off various things like a hockey puck and even now with his upgrade can do this feat to a greater extent.

Bull Fighter: Before he became a dwarf, he was a famous bullfighter in Spain in 1930's. They even said Eugene was better than Maera himself. Even Ernest Hemmingway was watching him and was quite impressed with his skills.

Durability: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained metahuman durability. Which allows Puck to withstand extreme temperatures and pressures, and virtually all toxins, corrosives, punctures and concussions without sustaining injury. As he said he became invulnerable, due to Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber.

Experience: Puck is very old; he was a soldier of fortune in the early 1900s. He has traveled the world and experienced many cultures, battle many foes and learned from it all. His age almost rivals that of Wolverine, however, Puck's age keeps changing in the comics. He has been in many battles for instance on the opposing side against Black Widow in the Tonkin Gulf in 1967. Also Wolverine recognized his battle tactics in Maracaibo and even battled with Modred to stop the Brass Bishop into getting into the new Tower of Babel

Fake Death: An ability he learned in the Orient, where he can place himself in a temporary death-like trance state. This can fool most people leaving them open for an attack.

Fighting Skills: Puck is one of the most skilled fighters in the Marvel universe. He knows a mixture of various martial arts, street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics. He even has such skill that allows him to sneak up on Wolverine, as he said "Who...? You! Well, well, well. I shoulda known you'd be the only one who could sneak up on me like that."

Intelligence: A very bright person even in the heat of battle has quoted Hamlet from time to time. In a battle with Atlanteans, he quoted. "Let the foils be brought the gentlemen willing, and the King hold his purpose, I will win for him if I can, if not, I will gain nothing but my shame and the odd hits!" He's a scholar and often reads works by Shakespeare and even in the past was friends with Ernest Hemmingway. Puck can also speak fluent Russian, Japanese, German and various other languages as well. He also has a great deal of knowledge about magic, folklore and magical rituals.

Reflexes: Even prior to his upgrade, Puck trained himself to be the best shape he could be and even had superhuman level reflexes, virtually instantaneous. He could act out many battle tactics in his head only in a fraction of a second and in the next heartbeat act.

Speed: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman speed. That's the ability to run 111-115 miles per hour

Stamina: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman stamina. That's the ability to sustain peak exertion before fatigue impairs performance up to a day.

Strength: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman strength. Prior to just being a dwarf he had peak human strength, but now he is Superhuman Class 10. That's the ability to press 2-10 tons.
ware u asking me when ive seen wolverine punk puck?

Originally posted by capt it up
ware u asking me when ive seen wolverine punk puck?

Yes, because you said he did it a few times. What are they?

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
cap has good stats to, look under strenght level... http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Captain_America_%28Steve_Rogers%29

Puck's far....far...far...stronger, Cap's peak human at best.

puck is not much stronger, and cap is a way better fighter........

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yes, because you said he did it a few times. What are they?
I dont own them all but here are two of which I have on me I may have mroe in my collection, but it take a while for me to find but here are tow of them.
alpha flight #9 yes I know puck was under mind control but he still was getting a beating.


x-men adventures #5 puck atatcks wolverine with this spin move and wolverine slamms him into a tree with ease and then said that move has never worked on me puck and uve tried it 100 times

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
puck is not much stronger, and cap is a way better fighter........

Peak human is 800 lbs, Puck is 2-10 ton range...that's a big difference. Also not really they fought beside each other in an alien invasion and Cap compliamented on his skill and Black Widow talked about how they fought against each other in the Tonkin Gulf. He's a great fighter and has a great deal of experience.

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
puck is not much stronger, and cap is a way better fighter........
capt best lifitng feat is 1,100 pounds and that the only feat ive seen that high of capts

Originally posted by capt it up
I dont own them all but here are two of which I have on me I may have mroe in my collection, but it take a while for me to find but here are tow of them.
alpha flight #9 yes I know puck was under mind control but he still was getting a beating.


x-men adventures #5 puck atatcks wolverine with this spin move and wolverine slamms him into a tree with ease and then said that mvoe has never worked on me puck and uve tried it 100 times

No he wasn't I even have the comic, as well as the Uncanny X-Men issue which portrayed the X-Men side of the fight.

That's the comic based on the cartoon, non-canon.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No he wasn't I even have the comic, as well as the Uncanny X-Men issue which portrayed the X-Men side of the fight.

That's the comic based on the cartoon, non-canon. its obvious your a Canadian , not that theirs anything wrong with that....

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No he wasn't I even have the comic, as well as the Uncanny X-Men issue which portrayed the X-Men side of the fight.

That's the comic based on the cartoon, non-canon.
I know u have the comic. ive seen u pst picture of it mangi, ar eu forgetting im wolverine8888.

yes but look that the comic man puck is clearly not doing so hot vs wolverine even with help.

also I did not know the second comic I listed was not a cannon my cover missing i bought it in a dollar bin lol

honest in a vs fight puck vs wolevrien I give it to logan 6-7/10 though it be guite a fight.


capt I think would lose i dont think capt has what it takes to take more wins then loses vs puck

Puck has quite the strength advantage over Cap, and he might more agile, but Cap has got to be one of the best hand to hand fighters in the Marvel universe, he trained practicly all the Avengers from time to time on how to fight, plus Cap is a smarter fighter than Puck 10 fold.

Id say even without his shield
Cap 9/10

wow I just realized some thing. the dude name just reminded me of some thing.capt ebat us agent who has a lot of the same abilites puck has so actauly I moving my vote to 5.5/10 puck

Originally posted by capt it up
I know u have the comic. ive seen u pst picture of it mangi, ar eu forgetting im wolverine8888.

yes but look that the comic man puck is clearly not doing so hot vs wolverine even with help.

also I did not know the second comic I listed was not a cannon my cover missing i bought it in a dollar bin lol

I know it was you

Remember Department H erased part of their memories and brain washed them to not even remember their history with Wolverine. Heather couldn't even remember Wolverine's name was Wolverine...no joke.

Originally posted by USAgent
Puck has quite the strength advantage over Cap, and he might more agile, but Cap has got to be one of the best hand to hand fighters in the Marvel universe, he trained practicly all the Avengers from time to time on how to fight, plus Cap is a smarter fighter than Puck 10 fold.

Id say even without his shield
Cap 9/10

Wow your nuts, Puck is one of the best hand to hand fighters here look at this stats

Puck
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/O-P/tf_puckback.jpg

Captain America
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/C-D/CAPTAINAMERICABack.jpg

What the stats mean:
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/extras/th_Powers-Abilities.jpg

I think were all about to be made to look foolish. when ever alpha flight thread comes up that mangi on and he stops posting for a while it means he about to get a shit load of pics and evidence and own us

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I know it was you

Remember Department H erased part of their memories and brain washed them to not even remember their history with Wolverine. Heather couldn't even remember Wolverine's name was Wolverine...no joke.



Wow your nuts, Puck is one of the best hand to hand fighters here look at this stats

Puck
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/O-P/tf_puckback.jpg

Captain America
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/C-D/CAPTAINAMERICABack.jpg

What the stats mean:
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/extras/th_Powers-Abilities.jpg
true. dude I hoenstly thought u were about to come back with so much info we were all gunna get owned lol im kinda surprized u dident.

Originally posted by capt it up
wow I just realized some thing. the dude name just reminded me of some thing.capt ebat us agent who has a lot of the same abilites puck has so actauly I moving my vote to 5.5/10 puck

He's not nearly as durable, and I'd argue that he isn't as skilled either. Cap has an edge on Puck, but not a really huge one, and definitely not one that can overcome Puck's staggering physical advantages. Puck 8/10.

Originally posted by capt it up
wow I just realized some thing. the dude name just reminded me of some thing.capt ebat us agent who has a lot of the same abilites puck has so actauly I moving my vote to 5.5/10 puck

Huh? their not even close, Puck compressed rubber so basically anything Cap throws at him boucnes off.

Originally posted by capt it up
I think were all about to be made to look foolish. when ever alpha flight thread comes up that mangi on and he stops posting for a while it means he about to get a shit load of pics and evidence and own us

So wise

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Puck vs. The Incredible Hulk
Alpha Flight #29-This is classic Puck prior to his upgrade who was just a dwarf with peak human strength and body. He does really well against the brute. Anyways Alpha Flight did this experiment hoping to find a new body for Walter, but in the end they did but it was the Hulk. So instead of killing Bruce Banner, Walter sacrificed his life so Banner could life. However, Hulk was on a toe-line and Alpha Flight reeled him in thinking it was Walter. So when Hulk attacks an unsuspecting Box, the only one to act is Puck. The rest of the team is preoccuiped with their own things. Just to note, Box armor does not weigh multiple tons.

Feats shown:
-Puck's agility avoiding Hulk's attack
-Puck's intelligence figuring out which Hulk this is
-Puck's heart taking on a person who is bigger and stronger than he is
-Puck saves Shaman's life

1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-01.jpg
2. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-0203.jpg
3. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-04.jpg
4. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-05.jpg
5. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-06.jpg
6. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-07.jpg
7. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-08.jpg
8. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-09.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
? Guy has agility like Spider-Man

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight121-08.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight121-09.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight121-10.jpg

Instant reflexes:
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AlphaFlight16-15.jpg

Puck's body is compressed rubber, most of the attacks wouldn't do anything to him. They would just bounce off of him. As said, he is invulnerable.

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/avengers_v1_324_11_rougher.jpg


Originally posted by King_Mungi
Puck's awesome, it doesn't matter who it is if need be....he will punch you in the balls

Wolverine:
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/w_179_014.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/w_179_015.jpg

Demon-Same type as Wendigo
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Wolverine172-13.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
HAT TRICK!
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight113-06.jpg

Originally posted by Dizzle
He's not nearly as durable, and I'd argue that he isn't as skilled either. Cap has an edge on Puck, but not a really huge one, and definitely not one that can overcome Puck's staggering physical advantages. Puck 8/10.
us agent is a level 6 fighter the dudes no push over he may be even more skilled then puck but I doubt it

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Huh? their not even close, Puck compressed rubber so basically anything Cap throws at him boucnes off.



So wise
I so called that one...................im moving back to 6-7/10 puck leaning to 8 but it capt and capt is just one of those guys I think he may be able to pull 3 wins

Originally posted by USAgent
Puck has quite the strength advantage over Cap, and he might more agile, but Cap has got to be one of the best hand to hand fighters in the Marvel universe, he trained practicly all the Avengers from time to time on how to fight, plus Cap is a smarter fighter than Puck 10 fold.

Id say even without his shield
Cap 9/10

Puck's damn smart. Cap is too, but I wouldn't give it to either. Cap is NOT even close to being the best fighter in Marvel. Hell, he's not even really close to being the best on Marvel Earth- Karnak has that title very securely in hand. Cap has done next to nothing without his shield. I have yet to see any evidence that he is anywhere near as good without his shield as he is with it, because he almost never fights unarmed.

Puck outclasses Cap by a very good amount.

Originally posted by capt it up
us agent is a level 6 fighter the dudes no push over he may be even more skilled then puck but I doubt it

Not a pushover, but still not Puck. I'd say Puck's a bit more skilled, and a HELL of a lot more durable. Cap would have to beat on him for a LONG time to do any real damage, which is a big part of the reason that Puck wins by as much as he does.

cap, like batman are used to beating fighters that outclass them, while I agree that puck looks better on paper, I would rather go with cap due to his credibility...

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Puck
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/O-P/tf_puckback.jpg

Captain America
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/C-D/CAPTAINAMERICABack.jpg

What the stats mean:
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/extras/th_Powers-Abilities.jpg

Hey thanks for proving Caps superiority over Eugene!
Pucks fighting skills:
"A mixture of various martial arts,street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics"
special skills:
Bull fighting????

Captain's fighting skills:
"MASTERY of hand to hand combat, various martial arts"
special skills:
combat strategy, survival skills, acrobatic skills

like I said no contest at all
Cap 9/10

There are countless issues out there in which Cap is relieved of his shield for various reasons and ALWAYS finds a way to win.

Cap is a major player and major team leader, Puck is a middle team player. Super soldier serum over Mr. Flippy.

Puck can flip,roll, and bounce around all he wants to, but the superior "combat strategist", and "master of hand to hand combat" would take Puck out in less than 5 minutes

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/USAgent/z.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/USAgent/zz.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/USAgent/zzz.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/USAgent/zzzz.jpg

LMAO

Where'd you get that?

Originally posted by USAgent
Hey thanks for proving Caps superiority over Eugene!
Pucks fighting skills:
"A mixture of various martial arts,street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics"
special skills:
Bull fighting????

Captain's fighting skills:
"MASTERY of hand to hand combat, various martial arts"
special skills:
combat strategy, survival skills, acrobatic skills

like I said no contest at all
Cap 9/10

There are countless issues out there in which Cap is relieved of his shield for various reasons and ALWAYS finds a way to win.

Cap is a major player and major team leader, Puck is a middle team player. Super soldier serum over Mr. Flippy.

Puck can flip,roll, and bounce around all he wants to, but the superior "combat strategist", and "master of hand to hand combat" would take Puck out in less than 5 minutes

How?

Puck is stronger, faster, more agile and more durable.

Can you explain how he can beat someone who curbstomps him in every physical attribute you can name?

Cap is better fighter then Namor, Hulk or Thor too, but I don't see him beating them...

No contest at all...Puck wins.

Originally posted by USAgent
Hey thanks for proving Caps superiority over Eugene!
Pucks fighting skills:
"A mixture of various martial arts,street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics"
special skills:
Bull fighting????

Captain's fighting skills:
"MASTERY of hand to hand combat, various martial arts"
special skills:
combat strategy, survival skills, acrobatic skills

like I said no contest at all
Cap 9/10

There are countless issues out there in which Cap is relieved of his shield for various reasons and ALWAYS finds a way to win.

Cap is a major player and major team leader, Puck is a middle team player. Super soldier serum over Mr. Flippy.

Puck can flip,roll, and bounce around all he wants to, but the superior "combat strategist", and "master of hand to hand combat" would take Puck out in less than 5 minutes

Umm how does that prove he is so much better than Eugene than Puck?

As DC said how can he win against someone who is stronger, faster, more agile and more durable.

Durability:
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AlphaFlightv191-04.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/scan_puck.jpg

Endurance:
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/avengers_v1_322_13_rougher.jpg

Skill:
1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFLight_17_18.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm....when?
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1. http://forum.alphaflight.net/viewtopic.php?t=1275&start=0

Puck
The original Puck had enhanced agility and superhuman strength rivaling that of Spider-Man. He was also a trained soldier and formidable hand-to-hand combatant. After a run in with The Master of the World, his body was altered and compressed resulting into his tissue became akin to compressed rubber. The stats are from The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe - Master Edition #1

Agility: One of the most agile characters in the Marvel universe, even rivaling that of Spider-Man. He has superhuman agility, significantly beyond the natural limits of the human body. Prior to getting his upgrade, his speed and agility rivaled that of a 6' foot athlete even in his dwarf state. With his agility he can bounce off various things like a hockey puck and even now with his upgrade can do this feat to a greater extent.

Bull Fighter: Before he became a dwarf, he was a famous bullfighter in Spain in 1930's. They even said Eugene was better than Maera himself. Even Ernest Hemmingway was watching him and was quite impressed with his skills.

Durability: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained metahuman durability. Which allows Puck to withstand extreme temperatures and pressures, and virtually all toxins, corrosives, punctures and concussions without sustaining injury. As he said he became invulnerable, due to Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber.

Experience: Puck is very old; he was a soldier of fortune in the early 1900s. He has traveled the world and experienced many cultures, battle many foes and learned from it all. His age almost rivals that of Wolverine, however, Puck's age keeps changing in the comics. He has been in many battles for instance on the opposing side against Black Widow in the Tonkin Gulf in 1967. Also Wolverine recognized his battle tactics in Maracaibo and even battled with Modred to stop the Brass Bishop into getting into the new Tower of Babel. He also fought with Wolverine and Ernest Hemingway in the Spanish Civil War.

Fake Death: An ability he learned in the Orient, where he can place himself in a temporary death-like trance state. This can fool most people leaving them open for an attack.

Fighting Skills: Puck is one of the most skilled fighters in the Marvel universe. He knows a mixture of various martial arts, street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics. He even has such skill that allows him to sneak up on Wolverine, as he said "Who...? You! Well, well, well. I shoulda known you'd be the only one who could sneak up on me like that."

Intelligence: A very bright person even in the heat of battle has quoted Hamlet from time to time. In a battle with Atlanteans, he quoted. "Let the foils be brought the gentlemen willing, and the King hold his purpose, I will win for him if I can, if not, I will gain nothing but my shame and the odd hits!" He's a scholar and often reads works by Shakespeare and even in the past was friends with Ernest Hemmingway. Puck can also speak fluent Russian, Japanese, German and various other languages as well. He also has a great deal of knowledge about magic, folklore and magical rituals.

Reflexes: Even prior to his upgrade, Puck trained himself to be the best shape he could be and even had superhuman level reflexes, virtually instantaneous. He could act out many battle tactics in his head only in a fraction of a second and in the next heartbeat act.

Speed: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman speed. That's the ability to run 111-115 miles per hour

Stamina: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman stamina. That's the ability to sustain peak exertion before fatigue impairs performance up to a day.

Strength: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman strength. Prior to just being a dwarf he had peak human strength, but now he is Superhuman Class 10. That's the ability to press 2-10 tons.

Yoga: Trained by an old Hindu, named Dr.Srivinda, which allows Puck to slow his breathing and alter his body temperature. Even to the skill level being submerged into the freezing Arctic water for minutes without any problems at all. This was at the time when Puck hadn't had his upgrade yet.

Puck wins 10/10

"Which allows Puck to withstand extreme temperatures and pressures, and virtually all toxins, corrosives, punctures and concussions without sustaining injury. As he said he became invulnerable, due to Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber."

If Captain America can't knock him out with his shield or punches then he can't win. So basically he fighing a smaller, faster, more agile, stronger, and experienced opponent who he lacks a means to hurt.

But Cap has a shield and can do splits in the air better then any female cheerleader.

How can Puck handle that?

Strength, endurance, speed ect...... dont mean squat when you up against a far superior fighter like Cap is to Puck, you can be the strongest tank in the world , but when going up against someone that can counter your EVERY move, and use Pucks strength and size against him, Cap will find a way to beat him. no dought.
I mean how many times has Cap defeated foes that dwarf his strength, speed, endurance, durability ect and won? Let Caps record stand for itself........Puck dont stand a chance in the world......at all.

Originally posted by Murda Mase
LMAO

Where'd you get that?


Freedom Force! Lol I have that and I was going to be a huge penis and do something like that with some other popular characters but I refrained

Originally posted by USAgent
Strength, endurance, speed ect...... dont mean squat when you up against a far superior fighter like Cap is to Puck, you can be the strongest tank in the world , but when going up against someone that can counter your EVERY move, and use Pucks strength and size against him, Cap will find a way to beat him. no dought.
I mean how many times has Cap defeated foes that dwarf his strength, speed, endurance, durability ect and won? Let Caps record stand for itself........Puck dont stand a chance in the world......at all.

The only reason Capt would take a majority win is due to popularity.

Seriously puck is a dwarf midget carnifolk look'n screw ball but he should OWN Capt.

Wow Puck can take ANY shot Capt can land and bounce right back literally. Capt is going to be limited by how many attacks he can take because Puck is far faster, more agile, stronger and damn near as skilled..................yeah this is a sad day for Capt I am afraid. Canada finally did beat the USA in combat

Oh yeah, those screen shots were from Freedom Force , They were just a joke anyway. What no one seen off screen was Hurcules was the one who knocked out Puck, and I just had Cap there standing next to him LOL!
...I could make it look like Puck whips Thanos, Apocolyps, and Terrax combined!!

Im not gonna deny Puck is quicker, much stronger, and far more durable than Cap, and yes his fighting skills are great, but I guarntee if someone polled all the Marvel fans on who they think the top 10 hand to hand fighters are on Marvel earth, Cap would be on the majority of the lists and I dont think Mr. Judd would be on any at all.
What good is all that speed and strength if you you opponent can counter it all?

Originally posted by USAgent
Oh yeah, those screen shots were from Freedom Force , They were just a joke anyway. What no one seen off screen was Hurcules was the one who knocked out Puck, and I just had Cap there standing next to him LOL!
...I could make it look like Puck whips Thanos, Apocolyps, and Terrax combined!!

Im not gonna deny Puck is quicker, much stronger, and far more durable than Cap, and yes his fighting skills are great, but I guarntee if someone polled all the Marvel fans on who they think the top 10 hand to hand fighters are on Marvel earth, Cap would be on the majority of the lists and I dont think Mr. Judd would be on any at all.
What good is all that speed and strength if you you opponent can counter it all?

Yeah thats my point if 2 people are of comparable abilities and one is of much greater skills then the skill will have a far greater impact on the outcome of that fight.

Now if you place a 75 year old SUPER master in a ring with a guy that is a master AND has (these numbers are for illustration only) 10 times the agility of a man that is 25 and stronger and etc............skill has significantly diminsihed effects on the outcome of that fight.

Originally posted by USAgent
Strength, endurance, speed ect...... dont mean squat when you up against a far superior fighter like Cap is to Puck, you can be the strongest tank in the world , but when going up against someone that can counter your EVERY move, and use Pucks strength and size against him, Cap will find a way to beat him. no dought.
I mean how many times has Cap defeated foes that dwarf his strength, speed, endurance, durability ect and won? Let Caps record stand for itself........Puck dont stand a chance in the world......at all.

"Cap will find a way to beat him. no dought"

Just keep telling yourself that.

Puck takes it easily.

Originally posted by Tshern

Puck takes it easily.

Originally posted by Tshern


Puck takes it easily.


LOl, no really...thats a hoot, Puck beating Captain America EASILY....
Maybe if Captain America has a set of horns and then Puck can use his superior bull fighting skills

But saying Puck takes it easily sounds like frustration on your part.

Now I actually do like Eugene Judd, he is a interesting character with all the changes he has gone through ( I was a fan when he was possesed with Razer). And my favorite character is ...well USAgent, but I believe Puck could take USAgent in the end. But not one of the most skilled fighter in the world.....not even close.

Not the best fighter...one of the best...

Puck is one of the most skilled fighters in the world as well, he's actually has a crap load more experience than Captain America.

Strength - Puck

Speed - Puck

Durability - Puck

Agility - Puck

Experience - Puck

Fighting Skills - Slight edge to Captain America, but Puck is close enough to make this category nearly even, imo.

Winner: Puck. I simply cannot think of a way for Captain America to win a majority against this guy. While Cap may have an indestructible shield, Puck has a practically indestructible body. That alone would make him quite a challenge for Cap but add in superior strength, speed, agility, experience, and enough fighting skill to hang with Cap and you have quite the little beast in Puck.

If Puck would only be stronger then Cap, Cap could win. He has speed. But Puck is also FASTER then Cap too. He will hit Cap with his superior speed, and with his strength, one blow will kill Cap. And none of Cap's attacks will work.

cap wins, Puck wouldnt dare step to cap, thwe problem with posting reasons why cap wins these fights is hard because cap is too hard to catergorize, yes i know stats are in pucks favor but comics, just like real life isnt a game of stats, cap is impossible to class on papaer, because he will ALWAYS suprise us.

Originally posted by King KAM
cap is impossible to class on papaer, because he will ALWAYS suprise us.

Exactally the same as Puck, who has had several dealings with Cap as well. Quite good friends actually.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Exactally the same as Puck, who has had several dealings with Cap as well. Quite good friends actually. did he dominate cap? ofcourse not, not even the hulk dominates cap, cap IS the man , not one of the men, but THE man

puck wins

Originally posted by King KAM
did he dominate cap? ofcourse not, not even the hulk dominates cap, cap IS the man , not one of the men, but THE man

I didn't say they fought against each other, they fought together as they are quite the good friends. From my memory alone, which is vague right now since I'm recovering I don't think they have ever fought. Heck, you should have seen the Puck vs. Hulk fight and that was classic Puck.

Ugh, the day that a midget from Canada is able to take down the senital of liberty is a day I dont want to see

Originally posted by Grimm22
Ugh, the day that a midget from Canada is able to take down the senital of liberty is a day I dont want to see

Well if it makes you happy, Puck wasn't always a dwarf he was over 6'0 tall.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well if it makes you happy, Puck wasn't always a dwarf he was over 6'0 tall.

What the fudge?!? How do you go from being 6ft tall to about half that size?!?

Originally posted by Grimm22
What the fudge?!? How do you go from being 6ft tall to about half that size?!?

a demon named Razer, that's why he is so old. This is classic Puck, as Master later experimented on him.

"Eugene Milton Judd was a soldier of fortune in the early 1900's when he attempted to steal the mystical sword, The Black Blade of Baghdad. In attempting to steal the sword, Judd accidentally released the evil being, Razer, who was trapped within. In order to contain the evil he had released, Judd had to sacrifice part of his life essence. The light from his life force was able to trap and contain the spirit of Razer within his own body. This process reduced him to a height of 3' 6", rendering him basically immortal. Keeping the evil of Razer trapped in his body took constant effort, and caused him to be in pain regularily. "


http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Puck_I

cap has caught and pressed big bertha who weighs over 700 pounds, and he thew her a distance.

Puck wins, if he's at class 10 strength.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Puck wins, if he's at class 10 strength. class 10 aint nothin, cap can slug with that.

Originally posted by King KAM
cap has caught and pressed big bertha who weighs over 700 pounds, and he thew her a distance.

and?...Puck can lift multiple tons, his strength is superior to his.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and?...Puck can lift multiple tons, his strength is superior to his. ofcourse it is...i wouldnt even argue their, but i still beleive that puck loses this fight.

Originally posted by King KAM
ofcourse it is...i wouldnt even argue their, but i still beleive that puck loses this fight.

How though?...just want to generate debate.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
How though?...just want to generate debate. fellow king, i would love to debate but im boutta leave soon, I admit that i dont know much about puck, so i could be ignorant to all of his glory, but he just doesnt seem like he has what it takes to beat the cap, he seems cool and all,but he's a second-stringer

Originally posted by King KAM
fellow king, i would love to debate but im boutta leave soon, I admit that i dont know much about puck, so i could be ignorant to all of his glory, but he just doesnt seem like he has what it takes to beat the cap, he seems cool and all,but he's a second-stringer

Just debate when you get back, I'm in no rush. He isn't suppose to be second-string.

In a popularity contest Cap wins easily, but in a fight I'm going with the rubber midget.

Originally posted by King KAM
fellow king, i would love to debate but im boutta leave soon, I admit that i dont know much about puck, so i could be ignorant to all of his glory, but he just doesnt seem like he has what it takes to beat the cap, he seems cool and all,but he's a second-stringer

You admit ignorance yet still say captain will win without any proof to the contrary?

It is very interesting that you defend Capt blindly, Have a quote of Capt's in your sig, but then also the mention of 'fanboys' in your sig.

Just so you know, you are exhibiting classic fanboy behaviour.

i think capt. would win. i dont know too much bout puck.

This is just battle of who's a bigger fan. Kam or Mugni....

I hate when people spell it Capt.

Originally posted by joeyleather
i think capt. would win. i dont know too much bout puck.

Than how can you think capt would win if you don't know much, if anything, about his opponent?

This would be a good one America vs Canada.

Captain America has the shield.
Can Eugene elevate his game and stop a throw by Steve?

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Captain America has the shield.
Can Eugene elevate his game and stop a throw by Steve? Your knowledge would be greatly appreciated in the Blade vs Puck thread.