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The Team:
Pre-Crisis Superman
Rune King Thor
Flash
Silver Surfer
Spawn
The Mask
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Firestorm
Martian Manhunter
Batman 1 Million
Odin

The team gets 5 days of prep.

Originally posted by batdude123
The Team:
Pre-Crisis Superman
Rune King Thor
Flash
Silver Surfer
Spawn
The Mask
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Firestorm
Martian Manhunter
Batman 1 Million
Odin

The team gets 5 days of prep.

Rune King Thor or Odin might stand a chance alone against Exitar alone as both have exceptional reality altering powers (like restoring a portion of the universe that they destroyed in battle, or restoring reality to a previous point in time) but the thing with Celestials is that when you mess with one you mess with them all.

If we go solely by highest showing then Odin beats Exitar with ease.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Rune King Thor or Odin might stand a chance alone against Exitar alone as both have exceptional reality altering powers (like restoring a portion of the universe that they destroyed in battle, or restoring reality to a previous point in time) but the thing with Celestials is that when you mess with one you mess with them all.

If we go solely by highest showing then Odin beats Exitar with ease.
Wow!!!!!!!!!!
Odin beating the strongest Celestial you're funny.Odin shits his pants at the mention of the word celestial.The Mask is the one who would probably win this one.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Rune King Thor or Odin might stand a chance alone against Exitar alone as both have exceptional reality altering powers (like restoring a portion of the universe that they destroyed in battle, or restoring reality to a previous point in time) but the thing with Celestials is that when you mess with one you mess with them all.

If we go solely by highest showing then Odin beats Exitar with ease.



i don't know jack about the mask, but he better be DAMN uber. remove the mask and these guys are likely smoked before exitar even knows they've attacked him . . .

Originally posted by leonidas


i don't know jack about the mask, but he better be DAMN uber. remove the mask and these guys are likely smoked before exitar even knows they've attacked him . . .

The Mask has invulnerability no matter what the extent of the damage is. He can also pull any kind of weapon that he can imagine out of thin air. The Mask also brings out the wearer's inner desires. While wearing the Mask, Lobo was destroying galaxies with ease.

Wait how come in that one comic Thor beat Exitar?

Originally posted by Darth Kal-El
Wait how come in that one comic Thor beat Exitar?

Probably because it was very VERY poorly written.

then the mask sounds like the real threat. still not entirely sure though. surtur destroyed a galaxy to forge twilight and he's only at skyfather level. a grouping of the most powerful skygods couldn't even make arishem (not as powerful as exitar, supposedly) blink.

Originally posted by leonidas
then the mask sounds like the real threat. still not entirely sure though. surtur destroyed a galaxy to forge twilight and he's only at skyfather level. a grouping of the most powerful skygods couldn't even make arishem (not as powerful as exitar, supposedly) blink.

Yes, but Lobo was destroying galaxIES (plural) with EASE.

Pre-Crisis Superman wearing the Mask would be nearly unbeatable.

Originally posted by S.S
Wow!!!!!!!!!!
Odin beating the strongest Celestial you're funny.Odin shits his pants at the mention of the word celestial.The Mask is the one who would probably win this one.

By strongest showing Odin erases Exitar from existence with a wave of his hand. In the old days of Marvel, Odin has defeated Infinity (yes, that's infinity, like Eternity and Infinity) and altered entire parts of the universe with a wave of his hand. Exitar has never and would never come close to doing anything on that scale.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
By strongest showing Odin erases Exitar from existence with a wave of his hand. In the old days of Marvel, Odin has defeated Infinity (yes, that's infinity, like Eternity and Infinity) and altered entire parts of the universe with a wave of his hand. Exitar has never and would never come close to doing anything on that scale.
buddy Odin is seen on his knees before arishem who's not as powerful as Exitar.

Odin beat Infinity and where's the proof of this?

Exitar goes down.

Originally posted by S.S
buddy Odin is seen on his knees before arishem who's not as powerful as Exitar.

Odin beat Infinity and where's the proof of this?

1) That happened when Odin was depowered Marvel and the a bunch of Sky Father's together was not enough to deter the Celestials. Instead Odin was warned that if he interfered with their plans that he would be cut off from Asgard. This indicates that Marvel had decided to depower Odin and the other "sky fathers". Therefore it is clearly not Odin's strongest showing. I think it was Thor 300. I used to have it. It was not written by Stan Lee.

2) Odin beat Infinity according to Stan Lee who wrote the story and made thousands of prints. As you know Infinity is on an entirely different level of power than the Celestials. The Odin portrayed in this story was far above the Celestials, hence it was probably his strongest showing.

As you might know Infinity is the equal of Eternity, except representing Space instead of time. During this period, Odin was fundamental to the universe.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
1) That happened when Odin was depowered Marvel and the a bunch of Sky Father's together was not enough to deter the Celestials. Instead Odin was warned that if he interfered with their plans that he would be cut off from Asgard. This indicates that Marvel had decided to depower Odin and the other "sky fathers". Therefore it is clearly not Odin's strongest showing. I think it was Thor 300. I used to have it. It was not written by Stan Lee.

2) Odin beat Infinity according to Stan Lee who wrote the story and made thousands of prints. As you know Infinity is on an entirely different level of power than the Celestials. The Odin portrayed in this story was far above the Celestials, hence it was probably his strongest showing.

As you might know Infinity is the equal of Eternity, except representing Space instead of time. During this period, Odin was fundamental to the universe.
Sounds a little suspect to me.So you're saying that Odin was depowered and he was at eternity level...........

^^ It's ****ing BS that Odin would be at Infinity levels. Even if Odin has the energies of all of Asgard, it wouldn't put him close to that level. Asgard is still part of the Marvel universe, and abstracts like Infinity/Eternity are universal aspects.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
1) That happened when Odin was depowered Marvel and the a bunch of Sky Father's together was not enough to deter the Celestials. Instead Odin was warned that if he interfered with their plans that he would be cut off from Asgard. This indicates that Marvel had decided to depower Odin and the other "sky fathers". Therefore it is clearly not Odin's strongest showing. I think it was Thor 300. I used to have it. It was not written by Stan Lee.

2) Odin beat Infinity according to Stan Lee who wrote the story and made thousands of prints. As you know Infinity is on an entirely different level of power than the Celestials. The Odin portrayed in this story was far above the Celestials, hence it was probably his strongest showing.

As you might know Infinity is the equal of Eternity, except representing Space instead of time. During this period, Odin was fundamental to the universe.

That's why Odin and the other Asgardians here killed along with zuras by the Celestails. Odin was afraid of the Celestails that's why he built destroyer and they still got their ass creamed, Odin defeating infinity was most likely a one time deal other than that Odin would get creamed by top beings in the universe.

Odin kneel before arishem like a slave and was told by him not to interfere with Celestail business our they will be cut off from earth, even the other skyfathers where scared of the Celestail Host.

Exitar the most powerful of all Celestails would have killed Asgard with a thought, skyfathers are below the food chain way below, their even below elder gods and the Vishanti who would rape them all day.

Originally posted by S.S
Sounds a little suspect to me.So you're saying that Odin was depowered and he was at eternity level...........

i've got a lot of old thor (even a couple journey into mystery) and i've never seen anything like what he's claiming either. infinity, the entity we know today, was only created recently, in quasar i think. not sure what infinity odin battled, but it wasn't the one we have today . . .

i too would love some evidence of this. even a summary from a website would be good.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
By strongest showing Odin erases Exitar from existence with a wave of his hand. In the old days of Marvel, Odin has defeated Infinity (yes, that's infinity, like Eternity and Infinity) and altered entire parts of the universe with a wave of his hand. Exitar has never and would never come close to doing anything on that scale.


Where you left in a coma or what? Skyfahters are below the food chain fare below.



1. Living Tribunal/Phoenix Force/ Goblin Froce/ True Beyonders
2. Infinties/ Nemisis
3. Eternity/Death/ Infinity/Oblivion/Galactus(full Potential)/ Abraxas/ Exitar/ Ego Prime
4. Normal Galactus/ Celestails/ Ego/ Tyrant(full Poewered)/ Phoenix Avartars
5. Order& Chaos/Love& Hate/ The Watchers
6. In-Betweener/ The Stranger/Eon/ Nebula(Chronos)/ Epoch
7. Vishanti/Agamotto/Hargoth/Oshtur
8. Shuma-Grath
9. Mephisto/ Black Heart/ dormammu/ Umar
10. Cube Beings/ Molecule Man/Kublik/Shaper of Worlds/Kosmos (true Beyonder)/ Demiurge/ Demogorge(Atum II form)
11. Elder Gods/Atum The God-Eater/Set/Cthon/Gaea/Rune King Thor/ Chronus/Cyttorak
12. Skyfahters /Tyrant / Odin/ Zeus/ King Thor/ Zuras/ Crom/ Vinshu/ Mangog/ Mindless Ones

Originally posted by leonidas
i've got a lot of old thor (even a couple journey into mystery) and i've never seen anything like what he's claiming either. infinity, the entity we know today, was only created recently, in quasar i think. not sure what infinity odin battled, but it wasn't the one we have today . . .

i too would love some evidence of this. even a summary from a website would be good.

Stan Lee was the writer back then. Infinity was portrayed differently after that but Stan Lee says its the same Infinity. Marvel has gone through many changes over time to suit their perception of the comic book audience, and the remodeling of some characters was no doubt an attempt to be more"modern".

Since you asked for a web-link, I was able to find this via google search:

http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-infinity.html

It didn't say anything about Odin beating Infinity......

That Odin feat did happen, but it was retconned. Also thor didn't even destroy a celestial, all he managed to do is shatter the dome and in the process destroy mjolnir, and I don't even think it was exitar either.

Plus the fact Odin and all the asgardians in the destroyer armour got whooped by one celestial pretty much makes your point void.

This team might get a chance....But Exitar is so damn strong...I don't know...5 days would be enough...But even Thor with that belt was able to crack his armour a bit...So yeah I'd say with so much luck might win 2 out of 10 and draw 1...

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Stan Lee was the writer back then. Infinity was portrayed differently after that but Stan Lee says its the same Infinity. Marvel has gone through many changes over time to suit their perception of the comic book audience, and the remodeling of some characters was no doubt an attempt to be more"modern".

Since you asked for a web-link, I was able to find this via google search:

http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-infinity.html

hmm, that IS interesting. someone else claims it was retconned, though. fascinating that her first app. was that long ago and in a totally different incarnation. sounds like odin TAPPED her power, rather than 'beat' her though.

anyway, interesting tidbit -- still doesn't change my overall opinion though. perhaps odin has been depowered -- back in stan's day it was always a question who was more powerful odin or galactus -- but recent developments in marvel cosmology say odin is miniscule compared to the celestials.

Originally posted by batdude123
The Team:
Pre-Crisis Superman
Rune King Thor
Flash
Silver Surfer
Spawn
The Mask
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Firestorm
Martian Manhunter
Batman 1 Million
Odin

The team gets 5 days of prep.

Exitar the Exterminator FTW

That wasn't the abstract Infinity, that was a weaker being called Infinity which was a renegade part of Odin's own mind

hmmm, as far as i can remember the Mask (like the wooden object) is the subject of Loki's magic, and it belonged to him. In this case, how can The Mask's yielder have somewhat of a chance against Exitar, considering the fact that Loki is well below Odin and the likes.

i might be wrong though, don't throw rocks at me, that's what i remembered considering zee Mask

Originally posted by left
hmmm, as far as i can remember the Mask (like the wooden object) is the subject of Loki's magic, and it belonged to him. In this case, how can The Mask's yielder have somewhat of a chance against Exitar, considering the fact that Loki is well below Odin and the likes.

i might be wrong though, don't throw rocks at me, that's what i remembered considering zee Mask If I remember correctly, you're right Loki did create the Mask. Exitar for the win!

Odin was severely depowered in his fight against the Celestials no doubt about it, in his fight against Arishem even with the power of Vishnu and Zeus the energy that was unleashed could hurl a planet out of orbit, which isn't interesting when his other feats previously are multiversal destruction and destroying of Galaxies, so yes he was depowered IMO.

Multiversal destruction...

Universe
Cluster of many universes = multiverse.
All universes = omniverse.

Even if Exitar couldn't hurt the Mask, waht could the Mask (or anyone on the team for that matter) do to Exitar? Seriously, are they gonna sight-gag him to death?



Exitar levitates by without even noticing these puny fools

Originally posted by batdude123
Probably because it was very VERY poorly written.

Or maybe Thor is more powerful than you're giving him credit for.

I say Thor is now at least an the level of Celestials.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Or maybe Thor is more powerful than you're giving him credit for.

I say Thor is now at least an the level of Celestials.

take a break and go watch Saturday morning cartoons or something

Originally posted by boriquaking55
take a break and go watch Saturday morning cartoons or something

But it's Tuesday

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But it's Tuesday

i wish it was friday so I could watch TGIF


*checks wikipedia*


WHAT?!!!!! THEY CANCELLED TGIF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.anaitgames.com/wp-content/darth_vader_nooo.jpeg

Originally posted by Utrigita
Odin was severely depowered in his fight against the Celestials no doubt about it, in his fight against Arishem even with the power of Vishnu and Zeus the energy that was unleashed could hurl a planet out of orbit, which isn't interesting when his other feats previously are multiversal destruction and destroying of Galaxies, so yes he was depowered IMO.

Odin forgot his cane

My young friend, do u know Celestials met the Goblin Force

Exitar gets some bug spray and kills the team

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
Exitar gets some bug spray and kills the team

Which kind

Originally posted by guy222
Which kind

Raid.

Originally posted by batdude123
Raid.



Terminex is better

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Multiversal destruction...

Universe
Cluster of many universes = multiverse.
All universes = omniverse.

http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sethvsweakenedodin26rj.jpg

Odin cannot do this any longer.

And RKT is nowhere near the power of a Celestial.

Exitar for the win

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Exitar for the win

Done easily

Odin did not defeat Infinity, he defeated his own Darkside drawing on an ASPECT of Infinity...

Infinity(Abstract)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Infinity Odin beat.

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4375/thor185024ov.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9606/thor185087rj.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7807/thor185096uz.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7134/thor185112ex.th.jpg
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9103/thor185161as.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8383/thor185172ya.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/159/thor185186vg.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5618/thor186018kq.th.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1812/thor186027ur.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1935/thor186037ir.th.jpghttp://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8920/thor186057js.th.jpghttp://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7581/thor186069cn.th.jpg
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3073/thor186073cm.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6389/thor186084fd.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9103/thor186100eo.th.jpghttp://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4320/thor186163ac.th.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6450/thor186178zb.th.jpghttp://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4969/thor186189ic.th.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/676/thor186194jn.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1469/thor186204qq.th.jpg
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7109/thor187010yq.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9067/thor187020ar.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7790/thor187036ei.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1664/thor187048tv.th.jpg
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/475/thor187054ab.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8960/thor187062on.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5966/thor187078ny.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3282/thor187107tb.th.jpg

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5059/thor187111vz.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1870/thor188015lw.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3159/thor188048ee.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/894/thor188076fo.th.jpg
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1637/thor188085ga.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9557/thor188103vn.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1310/thor188110fv.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2880/thor18812134qd.th.jpg

http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/7720/thor188150yz.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9494/thor188165dl.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4258/thor188177kz.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8618/thor188183wp.th.jpghttp://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3164/thor188193rs.th.jpg

These scans are all from Ethereal and the Odin Respect thread... As you can see, Odin only defeated his own Dark Half.

which was also pretty badass, That odin was cool, but time has really taken a effect against the asgardiens I mean once a Godblast from Thor could drive Back Galactus, now Thor shall be happy if the blast is even noticed by Galactus.

Originally posted by Utrigita
which was also pretty badass, That odin was cool, but time has really taken a effect against the asgardiens I mean once a Godblast from Thor could drive Back Galactus, now Thor shall be happy if the blast is even noticed by Galactus.

wavey

old age will do that

odin was impressive

celestials are just awesome

Originally posted by Utrigita
http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sethvsweakenedodin26rj.jpg

Odin cannot do this any longer.

And RKT is nowhere near the power of a Celestial. The scan says Seth unleashes a bolt of energy that causes a shockwave that is felt across every plane of reality - which is 1) ambiguous, as there are multiple realms which could be referred to as planes, within the one 616 reality; 2) could just be writer hyperbole 3) not destroying any other universes, not even the 616 universe, not even Asgard ergo not multiversal destruction; 4) apparently not even Odin's doing.

As noted above Odin didn't defeat the universal Abstract Infinity, what exactly would he do to Multi-Eternity, when he rules and possesses the power of a realm that is but a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the omniversal Abstract.

Originally posted by guy222
wavey

old age will do that

odin was impressive

celestials are just awesome

wavey

Yes the Celestials are a force to be reakond with...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
As noted above Odin didn't defeat the universal Abstract Infinity, what exactly would he do to Multi-Eternity, when he rules and possesses the power of a realm that is but a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the omniversal Abstract.

i think you may actually have short-changed the fractions by 5 or 100.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The scan says Seth unleashes a bolt of energy that causes a shockwave that is felt across every plane of reality - which is 1) ambiguous, as there are multiple realms which could be referred to as planes, within the one 616 reality; 2) could just be writer hyperbole 3) not destroying any other universes, not even the 616 universe, not even Asgard ergo not multiversal destruction; 4) apparently not even Odin.

As noted above Odin didn't defeat the universal Abstract Infinity, what exactly would he do to Multi-Eternity, when he rules and possesses the power of a realm that is but a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the omniversal Abstract.

Odin in this fight was weak, and excuse me but when Seth can do it, then Odin who beat him up quiet good, can do so too.

How are every single reality normally portrait, when Odin did it was felt in all realities, in the multiverse, to a little logic would suggest that its the same thing here.

Multiversal Destruction is in my eyes the ability to have a battle between two persons ore factions that leaves trails of that battle in the multiverse, no destroying of universes.

But agree possibly hyperboll after all we are only getting a little piece where it says that it was felt not like in Galactus vs Mephisto where you actually see the battle having consequents in different dimensions.

Multiversal destruction without any actual destroying of the multiverse...
Originally posted by leonidas
i think you may actually have short-changed the fractions by 5 or 100. Not if the fractions I'm using are already infinitesimally small to begin with. doped

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Multiversal destruction without any actual destroying of the multiverse...

Well if I make a blast that destroys a building in every universe within the multiverse that would be destruction on a multiversal scale because it encompases every universe within the multiverse.

Originally posted by batdude123
The Team:
Pre-Crisis Superman
Rune King Thor
Flash
Silver Surfer
Spawn
The Mask
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Firestorm
Martian Manhunter
Batman 1 Million
Odin

The team gets 5 days of prep.


I think Batman 1 million can take him down all by himself.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well if I make a blast that destroys a building in every universe within the multiverse that would be destruction on a multiversal scale because it encompases every universe within the multiverse. It didn't really say that either, it just said ripples of a shockwave, from a blast by Seth. So the blast may or may not (depending upon whether it was writer hyperbole) have been felt across the realities beyond 616 but didn't necessarily cause damage...

Excellent. Meggan has an on panel feat of omniversal scale destruction when she destroyed the Excalibur tower across all realities of the omniverse including Otherworld which is actually technically outside of reality iirc.