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So guys, do you reeeeeeeeeealy think that Wolverine should have beat Lobo??? I mean, it's mind-boggling, but, can you excuse this for the crossover for the sake of the fans???

no

no need for more replies...

wolverine bash thread. honestly don't u have some thing better to do with ur time?

it's not a wolverine bash thread, it's a comedy thread. Don't get your panties in a ruffle

I gotta agree with Capt on this. The thread will be closed soon.

oh I KNOW it will be closed.. but I don't think it's attempt was for spite.. I think it was for humor

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
it's not a wolverine bash thread, it's a comedy thread. Don't get your panties in a ruffle
don't be ignorent

Yep. Maybe if it were a drinking contest?

Originally posted by capt it up
don't be ignorent

I'm not being "ignorent"

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
oh I KNOW it will be closed.. but I don't think it's attempt was for spite.. I think it was for humor yet ull neevr see some one make this kinda thread vs any but wolverine

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Yep. Maybe if it were a drinking contest?
That's a great idea for a new thread.

you wanna bet?

nope I don't wanna bet what would the piont

DRINKING CONTEST!

hahahaha



Thor Vs. Superman... drinking contest!

Listen, let's get back to Thunderstrike's drinking contest.

beer wine drunk

Originally posted by capt it up
wolverine bash thread. honestly don't u have some thing better to do with ur time?

Sorry man. I'm honestly not trying to bash your guy. I swear. I'm asking the question simply because I'm interested to hear if it was the right move because of Wolverine's popularity, and wasn't there something inhibiting Lobo, or making Wolverine stronger in the fight? It's ridiculous, but I understand, in a small way, why they had him win. Wolverine fans loved it! I was honestly wondering people's thoughts on this. I think the obvious thing would have been to have him fight someone else, and if there is derogatory, it'd be towards the writers, and not the characters. It's not Wolverine's fault, a fictional character, that they had him beat Lobo. This was honestly just to discuss the phenomenon because I've never really heard what anyone thinks about it, and not to bash your guy............

Logan beating Lobo was PIS, CIS and anything else out there. There is no way Logan should have beaten Lobo. If that's the case, then Wolverine can beat 90% of the comic characters. To all the Wolverine fans, this was not a knock against Logan.

dumb.

Ok, like I said, this isn't a bash Wolverine thread, I'm really interested to hear some more information about it. Who came up with this bright idea, and why didn't they just choose someone more Wolverine's level to fight? What purpose did this all serve?????????? I just don't get it, and I'm looking to understand better.

I mentioned this somewhere else. But Lobo was created to be an overly exaggerated wolverinefor DC. That's probably why they paired them.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
I mentioned this somewhere else. But Lobo was created to be an overly exaggerated wolverinefor DC. That's probably why they paired them.

Wasn't there voting, too, and the fans decided who won?????

well that's WHY he one, but you asked why they were paired.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
well that's WHY he one, but you asked why they were paired.

Yeah, so my real question is why does everyone make such a big deal about it? It wasn't even a fight, it was a popularity contest. They paired up two guys, and one of them got more votes. How is that such a travesty and everyone complains about it??????

There was a lot of anger over that series. I guess people thought a lot of the fights were bull shit.

they only complain about it when it's brought up in versus forums.... like "Wolverine could beat Superman because he can beat up lobo too! It happened!" so yeah... I think that anyway!

Originally posted by badabing
There was a lot of anger over that series. I guess people thought a lot of the fights were bull shit.

It pretty much was. They tried to say some bald guy paid Lobo to lose.

Originally posted by Milkie
It pretty much was. They tried to say some bald guy paid Lobo to lose.

Oh yeah................. that's what I had heard. I knew there was something wrong with Lobo or something. Well.............. I've basically gotten all I wanted out of this.

I have a comment about people in the vs forums getting irritated about people bringing this up. Who cares???????

because it's kindof annoying when people mention it... I mean.. come on now

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
because it's kindof annoying when people mention it... I mean.. come on now

I can understand, but if people are going to argue upon something that ridiculous, their obviously not worth your time to try and enlighten. If you allow such things to annoy you, that's your own fault. Everyone does lets things annoy them that shouldn't, and of course I do, but if you can put in in perspective, the less it should happen.

yeah... but sometimes it's fun to give in to the "you're an idiot" scenario..

agreed..........

WuLBeReNE RULeZXoRZ, LoBO SuXoRZ!!!!

Originally posted by capt it up
yet ull neevr see some one make this kinda thread vs any but wolverine

Please. It was a ridiculous comic. Not every one is here to bash your favorite character of all time. The sooner you develop a sense of humor the sooner you will have a more enjoyable time in these forums.

thank you! That's what I was trying to say!

Originally posted by King KAM
WuLBeReNE RULeZXoRZ, LoBO SuXoRZ!!!!
Agreed. Wolverine kills Lobo. Anyone who disagrees is a Lobo fanboy.

Hahaha... but does Jean Claude Van Damme kill them both?

I really don't see what's wrong with that fight. It seemed perfectly fine to me. Wolverine tackles Lobo behind a bar, pays Lobo every cent he has to stay down, then gets up thinking he's awesome. Typical Logan.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Agreed. Wolverine kills Lobo. Anyone who disagrees is a Lobo fanboy. WuLBereNe=tEh MaN!

Originally posted by badabing
Logan beating Lobo was PIS, CIS and anything else out there. There is no way Logan should have beaten Lobo. If that's the case, then Wolverine can beat 90% of the comic characters.

You'd be amazed how many characters Wolverine 'fans' believe Wolverine (or in their case Wolbereen) can beat. Including one or two posters in this thread (names withheld, but let me say the main one used to go by a different name months back, a name that started with 'Wolverine' and ended with a four-digit number that started with an '8,' ended with an '8,' and had an '88' in-between, and currently goes by another name that rhymes with 'kept it up').

Thus I wouldn't be surprised if Wolverine 'fans' did not really think Wolverine had a chance against 90% PLUS of comic characters .....after all I was a member back then, and I do remember, a time one would find threads pitting Wolverine against characters like Thor, Superman, Magneto, Wonderwoman, Flash, and the Silver Surfer.
And I recall what some people used to say .....and let's say Wolverine (and his various spellings, ranging from 'wulvrien' to 'wlverine' to my favorite 'Wolbereen') did have his champions who believed that he had a chance.

Hence do not think for one moment that there are not people here in KMC who do not think that Wolverine can defeat 90% of characters. The only major difference is that some of the more insane posts have largely disappeared, and once the MAIN 'wolbereen' fanboy was banned (although as stated he is back with a different name) things were never the same. For that matter that fanboy is not making the same types of comments he used to back then .....and even his spelling is observably better.
Thus like most fanboy trends this is passing (they come in waves ....before the 'Wolbereen weens LOLOLOL' phase of a few months back there was the 'Spiderman has a spidey-sense' phase, which also lifted in a spectacular manner).

But like B-grade horror characters good fanboys never die .....they always return.
Thus it is only a matter of time before Wolbereen rears his Clawed Hand (TM).

Here is an example of the mighty power of the Great Wolbereen, as said by his main representative on earth Wolve(name withheld)88 from an old Superman vs Wolverine thread to be found here (http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28771&perpage=20&highlight=superman+vs+wolverine&pagenumber=4):



Beware the mighty power of the rabid fanboy .....he is logic proof, reason resistant, bullet proof, and has the amazing power of answering any swathes of sweeping logic with the ubiquitous 'LOL Wolbereen weens he baete thu Huulk 14 times LOLOL.'

Originally posted by spetznaz
You'd be amazed how many characters Wolverine 'fans' believe Wolverine (or in their case Wolbereen) can beat. Including one or two posters in this thread (names withheld, but let me say the main one used to go by a different name months back, a name that started with 'Wolverine' and ended with a four-digit number that started with an '8,' ended with an '8,' and had an '88' in-between, and currently goes by another name that rhymes with 'kept it up').

Thus I wouldn't be surprised if Wolverine 'fans' did not really think Wolverine had a chance against 90% PLUS of comic characters .....after all I was a member back then, and I do remember, a time one would find threads pitting Wolverine against characters like Thor, Superman, Magneto, Wonderwoman, Flash, and the Silver Surfer.
And I recall what some people used to say .....and let's say Wolverine (and his various spellings, ranging from 'wulvrien' to 'wlverine' to my favorite 'Wolbereen') did have his champions who believed that he had a chance.

Hence do not think for one moment that there are not people here in KMC who do not think that Wolverine can defeat 90% of characters. The only major difference is that some of the more insane posts have largely disappeared, and once the MAIN 'wolbereen' fanboy was banned (although as stated he is back with a different name) things were never the same. For that matter that fanboy is not making the same types of comments he used to back then .....and even his spelling is observably better.
Thus like most fanboy trends this is passing (they come in waves ....before the 'Wolbereen weens LOLOLOL' phase of a few months back there was the 'Spiderman has a spidey-sense' phase, which also lifted in a spectacular manner).

But like B-grade horror characters good fanboys never die .....they always return.
Thus it is only a matter of time before Wolbereen rears his Clawed Hand (TM).

Here is an example of the mighty power of the Great Wolbereen, as said by his main representative on earth Wol(name withheld)88 from an old Superman vs Wolverine thread to be found here (http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28771&perpage=20&highlight=superman+vs+wolverine&pagenumber=4):



Beware the mighty power of the rabid fanboy .....he is logic proof, reason resistant, bullet proof, and has the amazing power of answering any swathes of sweeping logic with the ubiquitous 'LOL Wolbereen weens he baete thu Huulk 14 times LOLOL.' YoU = TeH SuCk!

it worldnt bea slaughter but lobo would win

uh... it would be slaughter.

Maybe if Lobo were drunk.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Maybe if Lobo were drunk. lobos always drunk....

it wouldnt if wolver has took on hulk in his very first aperance he can fight lobo

^=TeH SuCk

have a look in the comics section i made a new thread about worverine

It is a fanboy's stretch of imagination to believe that anyone below galactic level can completely defeat Lobo.

Bullshit.

i never said he can beat him but he can face him, im no fanboy im not a fan of him much to be honest anymore

I know,I'm not calling you a fanboy.

But he wouldn't really stand much chance either. Lobo is very, very powerful.

ok,
so has hulk hes faced hulk in first aperance so why cant he face siminlar chalenges like lobo without it being called pis it watever,

He didn't kill Hulk.

ANd he'd find it even harder to kill Lobo. To keep him dead, you have to vaporise him down the the very last atom.

listen im not saying he can beat or harm lobo or KILL but it would be a good fight read it properly plz

Originally posted by Etrigan
He didn't kill Hulk.

ANd he'd find it even harder to kill Lobo. To keep him dead, you have to vaporise him down the the very last atom. that doesnt work either.

wolverine would kick lobos ass just like before...

Originally posted by AJ4LIFE
listen im not saying he can beat or harm lobo or KILL but it would be a good fight read it properly plz

I did, but your spelling does tend to put people off.

Anyway, I know. But I don't think it would be a good fight either. What could Wolverine do to harm Lobo?

maybe not but look som fights people dont magage to hurt somone and its a god fight i have the first fight with worlverine and hulk and it was a good fight but he didnt hurt hulk but he used speed and he done it
i thought my spelling was quit good today

Originally posted by AJ4LIFE
maybe not but look som fights people dont magage to hurt somone and its a god fight i have the first fight with worlverine and hulk and it was a good fight but he didnt hurt hulk but he used speed and he done it
i thought my spelling was quit good today

so I was joking in that last post... but I agree with AJ here... even though wolverine probably can't permenantly kill off hulk or hurt sim for any significant length of time.. they have had some of the best slugfests the MU has had to offer...

thank u somone aggrees, u should have a look in the comics secion im debating about worlver in there aswell lol

Originally posted by jinzin
so I was joking in that last post... but I agree with AJ here... even though wolverine probably can't permenantly kill off hulk or hurt sim for any significant length of time.. they have had some of the best slugfests the MU has had to offer...



To Wolverine fans, sure. To most other people, no.

so if somone is so skilled they cant hurt the other person and they r locked in battle like a stalemate its not a good fight or theyre trying to do every thing possible to hurt them but still going its crappy ?

AJ, slow down your typing bud.

why dont it make sence, im doing the best debating i ever one i must be crappy lol

Originally posted by Thunderstrike


To Wolverine fans, sure. To most other people, no.

oh I guess that's why incredible hulk 340 is number 33 on wizard's top 100 stand alone issues list right?



pffft... stop talking for everyone else, especially when everyone else thinks you're wrong anyways...

lol

Originally posted by jinzin
oh I guess that's why incredible hulk 340 is number 33 on wizard's top 100 stand alone issues list right?



pffft... stop talking for everyone else, especially when everyone else thinks you're wrong anyways...

Uh, coming from someone who says that Wolvenom can take Superman, and said it recently, that doesn't mean much. The story behind 340-346 is good, not the fight. The end of the fight was Clay Quartemain telling the two to not act like little kids. I own the issues, sonny boy. It's a good story. The fact that Wolverine is in it is moot. I guess Wolverine is the selling point behind Infinity Gauntlet as well? I guess it was Wolverine who sold Spider-Man: The Other. Yeah. Makes plenty of sense with your flawed logic. If everyone else who thinks I'm wrong includes you, Mider, Leonhart, and Capt it Up, then I can live with being wrong. However, they aren't everyone. There are plenty of people who agree with me on this, so I don't need the approval of an impetuous Wolverine fanboy. You can act like a senseless pariah all day with your fanboyisms and crap, but until you can bring good logic and solid proof to a debate, and practice what you preach, you're nothing more than a joke.

ooooo

wewll wolvrine did take out lobo that one crossover

Originally posted by AJ4LIFE
listen im not saying he can beat or harm lobo or KILL but it would be a good fight read it properly plz

No it wouldn't. It would take few seconds for Lobo grab Wolverine from his head, laugh at his attempts to actually hurt him with those claws, rip out his intestines and throw him in space. Then finish his drink.

His healing factor and pain tolerance are insane.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No it wouldn't. It would take few seconds for Lobo grab Wolverine from his head, laugh at his attempts to actually hurt him with those claws, rip out his intestines and throw him in space. Then finish his drink.

His healing factor and pain tolerance are insane. ive seen lobo at levels where wolverine could definatley give him a run for his money.....

Originally posted by King KAM
ive seen lobo at levels where wolverine could definatley give him a run for his money..... Such as?

Lobo has Superman level strength and very good speed. His healing factor is on par with Wolverine, plus he is immortal (literally). He can go toe to toe with Superman. Wolverine won't get 1 win out of 10.

i still think i done well defending worly lol wat do u think, and no im not a fanboy, theyre killed my love for him

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Such as?

Lobo has Superman level strength and very good speed. His healing factor is on par with Wolverine, plus he is immortal (literally). He can go toe to toe with Superman. Wolverine won't get 1 win out of 10. have you read all of lobo's series'?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Such as?

Lobo has Superman level strength and very good speed. His healing factor is on par with Wolverine, plus he is immortal (literally). He can go toe to toe with Superman. Wolverine won't get 1 win out of 10.
Though Lobo's powerlevel varies a lot. But using common sense and not picking situations of extreme PIS, Lobo takes this 11/10.

lol

anyway i see no one answeribg my qustion damn it anyway he won win not even many fanboys think that but he can fight him and make it last at least a little while

Why do people seriously think that Lobo would win this? He seriously would have no chance in hell.

maybe .1241234 milliseconds

Originally posted by batdude123
Why do people seriously think that Lobo would win this? He seriously would have no chance in hell.

oh and yor sig is gonna be mine on the rpg site i go on lol

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Uh, coming from someone who says that Wolvenom can take Superman, and said it recently, that doesn't mean much.

you didn't debate the subject involving the tactic that I supported that claim with... in fact no response generated a suitable way for superman to win that... and I gave a prefectly sound argument for my rationality.... stop trying to throw that in my face because it's not working, it's only showing that you can't defend yourself against me in the discussion we're having right now....

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
The story behind 340-346 is good, not the fight.

that's your opinion.. but you brought up ad populem... incredible hulk 340 was put up on no. 33 by the entire editorial staff at wizard BECAUSE OF THE FIGHT, they even say so when they worte it in.
thus, going by ad populem thus far you lose.... again.


Originally posted by Thunderstrike
The end of the fight was Clay Quartemain telling the two to not act like little kids.

okay.. so what?
what does that have to do with anything? that doesn't make the fight itself not an enjoyable slugfest.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
I own the issues, sonny boy. It's a good story. The fact that Wolverine is in it is moot.

no it's not..

here let me simplify things for you...

this is what I said:
Originally posted by jinzin
even though wolverine probably can't permenantly kill off hulk or hurt sim for any significant length of time.. they have had some of the best slugfests the MU has had to offer...
this is what you said:
Originally posted by Thunderstrike


To Wolverine fans, sure. To most other people, no.

AND THEN?
Wizards entire editorial staff disagreed with you, placing hulk 340 at number 33 in a list of the best 100 stand alone comics to date, (including image, dc, and indie comics) BECAUSE of the fight it has in it...

THUS: we are currently discussing wolverine's fights with hulk his being in the hulk comic is NOT MOOT... why? cause that's what we're ****ing discussing. If you can't follow that train of thought then go over the pages a few more times, get someone else to explain it for you, do anything that can help you cope with the fact that we ARE infact discussing the entertainment value of wolverine/hulk fights... and wolvie's not moot.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
I guess Wolverine is the selling point behind Infinity Gauntlet as well? I guess it was Wolverine who sold Spider-Man: The Other. Yeah. Makes plenty of sense with your flawed logic.

another incredibly reaching strawman from "Blunderstrike" what does wolverine's selling power have anything to do with the entertaiment value of his fights with hulk.. you're drifting WAAAAAAAAYYYY off topic... not to mention the fact that noone ever made such claims... wtf?

are you high? is that your problem?

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
If everyone else who thinks I'm wrong includes you, Mider, Leonhart, and Capt it Up, then I can live with being wrong. However, they aren't everyone.
no, but you brought up an add populem argument.. I have an entire editorial staff backing up my viewpoint.. where's your support?

There are plenty of people who agree with me on this,

and yet they aren't here...

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
so I don't need the approval of an impetuous Wolverine fanboy. You can act like a senseless pariah all day with your fanboyisms and crap, but until you can bring good logic and solid proof to a debate, and practice what you preach, you're nothing more than a joke.



hysterical

this coming from a guy who had not one shred of proof to back himself up in ANY discussion we've had over the last few days... this coming from the guy who told both me and creshosck not to call anyone morons or insult them, and then started doing that EXACT THING not a day later before we ever expressed hostilities at that level...

as for my not practicing what I preach, I'm STILL waiting for you to quote me on the whole PIS claim that you made.. you STILL haven't... you've no proof yet again, you're wrong yet again.. you failed yet again... and I'm humiliating you yet again...

Originally posted by AJ4LIFE


oh and yor sig is gonna be mine on the rpg site i go on lol

hey, be fair... I put up a pretty good fight

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
hey, be fair... I put up a pretty good fight

lol... you know you did, I know you did, I just thought it went without saying..

Anyone on Superman's level, strength,speed, durability, would crush Wolverine. Needless to say Lobo could easily just lob one of his grenades and take out the entire city block, plus some.

WOOOOOOOO!!!!

granted... but you forgot.. wolverine can take nukes at ground zero, cut thanos with bone claws, survive the sun, and take on godzilla sized creatures while craving beer! MWAHAHAHAHAHA

long live the wolvie god!

but could wolverine take down GODZILLA HIMSELF!?!?!!?!?!?!?!

Originally posted by jinzin
granted... but you forgot.. wolverine can take nukes at ground zero, cut thanos with bone claws, survive the sun, and take on godzilla sized creatures while craving beer! MWAHAHAHAHAHA

long live the wolvie god!
Only in Wolverine8888's and likeminded people's minds.




And yet can't deal with simple pressure point attacks.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
but could wolverine take down GODZILLA HIMSELF!?!?!!?!?!?!?!

no.. NO ONE CAN... NO ONE I TELLS YA!

Originally posted by Juntai
Only in Wolverine8888's and likeminded people's minds.




And yet can't deal with simple pressure point attacks.

that's not wolvie god that's a skrull imposter hmph!

Originally posted by jinzin
no.. NO ONE CAN... NO ONE I TELLS YA!



that's not wolvie god that's a skrull imposter hmph! lol.

Originally posted by superman41082
So guys, do you reeeeeeeeeealy think that Wolverine should have beat Lobo??? I mean, it's mind-boggling, but, can you excuse this for the crossover for the sake of the fans???

Spite. Closed.