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GR doesn't use his penance stare for this match. That's kinda unfair to nearly every villain. Plus this is a battle to the death or until one is incapacitated.

GR has all of his other weapons, chains, hellfire, etc... Mr. Sinister has on him his normal accessories/weapons and what not.

Both are bloodlusted.

Debate.

I'm fairly sure that there's nothing GR can dish out that wouldn't be virtually instantly healed.

Gr sends him to hell on a silver platter.

Originally posted by Tshern
I'm fairly sure that there's nothing GR can dish out that wouldn't be virtually instantly healed.

His hellfire burns the soul , i seriously doubt mutant powers delve into the supernatural....

Originally posted by grey fox
His hellfire burns the soul , i seriously doubt mutant powers delve into the supernatural....

Before Mister Sinister shoots him down with an energy blast and mindrapes him?

I'm not sure but wouldn't sinister be in a bit of trouble trying to mind-rape a demonic entity , you know the whole I-see-things-which-you-mortals-cannot-comprehend deal ?

Originally posted by grey fox
I'm not sure but wouldn't sinister be in a bit of trouble trying to mind-rape a demonic entity , you know the whole I-see-things-which-you-mortals-cannot-comprehend deal ?

It's possible, but can you prove it? I still believe Sinister could take GR out by just keeping him at bay with energy blasts and telekinesis while mind raping him. Sinister's a beast.

Originally posted by Tshern
It's possible, but can you prove it? I still believe Sinister could take GR out by just keeping him at bay with energy blasts and telekinesis while mind raping him. Sinister's a beast.

I don't think trying to mind rape demonic entities is a smart idea either. Mainly the ones that can feel the pain of countless of people like Spawn. I'm not sure is Ghost Rider is similar. I know he can make people feel the pain they caused others but going in his mind probably is not a smart move. He probably would know his trying it and can mind rape Sinister himself just for going in his mind. That's even if he could do it in the first place.

Hell Flame should take out, Sinester. But Sinester has nothing in his own power to take out Ghost Rider.

Originally posted by Milkie
I don't think trying to mind rape demonic entities is a smart idea either. Mainly the ones that can feel the pain of countless of people like Spawn. I'm not sure is Ghost Rider is similar. I know he can make people feel the pain they caused others but going in his mind probably is not a smart move. He probably would know his trying it and can mind rape Sinister himself just for going in his mind. That's even if he could do it in the first place.

It's nice that you people make assumptions, but can you prove it or do we just immediately expect GR to be almost impossible to mindrape?

Mind Rape against GR won't work. Mental backlash.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Mind Rape against GR won't work. Mental backlash.
Now you just add who tried and failed to mindrape him and I won't be a sad panda anymore. I just found it odd that everyone thought it's impossible without actually knowing. Thanks, Avenger.

I do know my GR. Someone tried to get into his head once. He projected torment into their head. It was pretty badass.

It's pretty much using your brain. Mutants (or whatever the hell you want to call Sinister) are the scum of the marvel universe.

Penance stare=Sinister OwNed

Penance Stare = Everyone gets Owned. Unfortunately GR can't use it in this fight.

whats ghost riders powers? i've got one wolverine comic with and couple of cards of him, which don't tell you much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider

Wasn't Ghost Rider infected by the Brood?

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
GR doesn't use his penance stare for this match. That's kinda unfair to nearly every villain. Plus this is a battle to the death or until one is incapacitated.

GR has all of his other weapons, chains, hellfire, etc... Mr. Sinister has on him his normal accessories/weapons and what not.

Both are bloodlusted.

Debate.

blaze ftw

Originally posted by guy222
blaze ftw

Current GR was described by Doctor Strange as 'A god'.

Sinister on the opposite end of the spectrum, has his powers failing and is generally a mess.

Originally posted by grey fox
Current GR was described by Doctor Strange as 'A god'.

Sinister on the opposite end of the spectrum, has his powers failing and is generally a mess.

Zarathos has always been that powerful.

Sinister toyed with demons during his first appearances

Originally posted by norrinradd43
Sinister toyed with demons during his first appearances

he's been powered down a bit since his original appearances though.

Bottom line here is that while sinister's durability is pretty high (nothing's really ever been able to put him down physically) An attack on the soul via hellfire isn't something he has a defense against. mutant powers or not, he's still mortal.

GR on the other hand is totally immune to and/or will just regenerate from pretty much any non magical attack. The GR that was possessed by the Brood was the Daniel Ketch variant- not the current, so it's not really applicable here. (not that sinister is sitting on a batch of brood eggs or anything..just making a point.)

GR has the edge here.

still blaze