We're comparing apples to oranges here. I've got nothing against the Bambino...God rest his soul. But, most historians and baseball analysts old and young alike state the level of pitching back then, outside of a handful of pitchers, sucked.
I say so what then. There are thousands of hi schoolers each year that throw hi 80s to low 90s that never go anywhere today. In that era, these high schoolers would be gods. Ruth didn't face any competition, nor should this not be a knock against him however. But, let's call a spade a spade.
Originally posted by BobbyD
We're comparing apples to oranges here. I've got nothing against the Bambino...God rest his soul. But, most historians and baseball analysts old and young alike state the level of pitching back then, outside of a handful of pitchers, sucked.I say so what then. There are thousands of hi schoolers each year that throw hi 80s to low 90s that never go anywhere today. In that era, these high schoolers would be gods. Ruth didn't face any competition, nor should this not be a knock against him however. But, let's call a spade a spade.
That's a godd point BobbyD and I'd agree with you under any other circumstances but I guess what I'n trying to get at is how feel about the talent level of Aaron vs Ruth. Any thoughts?
It is more respected/hallowed than Aaron's.....though it shoudln't be.
Also, Aaron faced guys like Bob Gibson, Don Sutton, Gaylord Perry and Tom Seaver. I honestly can't name a pitcher from back then that might compare to the four I just mentioned......Christy Matthewson? Walter Johson? I don't even know if I'm in the right era????
Originally posted by mud_blood_princ
pitchers back then didnt throw as hard, it was easer to hit them, but harder to hit them out of the park.
That's a flat out lie.
In MLB, speed doesnt mean shit. Movement, intelligence and placements means alot more than overall speed. Most great pitchers dont throw over 96mph.
But back in the 20's, they're was only 16 teams, so batters faced much better pitching due to the fact of less teams. So instead of facing Clemens every 5 days, you faced Clemens type pitching every 2 days.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
who is josh gibson?
lol. Well if you had read the post I made about him in the thread you started.... 🙄
Originally posted by DanZeke25
Negro leagues. 977 homeruns I believe.
Yeah, that's him. And by all accounts, the Negro Leagues were every bit as good as MLB at the time. The won the majority of inter-league all-star games during Gibson's tenure, and Gibson himself hit over .400 in those games against the best pitchers in MLB. The same caliber pitchers that Ruth was facing, and Gibson did it in a similarly-lengthed career.
Satchel Paige is the most famous Negro League player, but Gibson's HR record is far and away the most impressive.
He gets overlooked because he wasn't in the main league when he was playing, which is unfortunate because it's easily more impressive than Ruth's 714 or Aaron's 755. He wasn't much in the field and couldn't pitch like Ruth, so you could still make a case for Ruth being a better overall player. But nobody was better at hitting the long ball than Gibson.
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Originally posted by Mr Parker
In my mind he is still the true homerun king.He played in an era where they didnt play as many games and the strike zone wasnt so small like it is now and where the stadiums were much bigger especially yankee stadium back then,and the balls were not juiced.
wtf is this??? racism?
look at what they did to my dude barry bonds... smfh
Originally posted by P, that Dude
wtf is this??? racism?look at what they did to my dude barry bonds... smfh
How the hell is that post about racism?
Are your referring to the point of 'juiced ball'?
If so, he means that ball wasnt tightly wound like it is today. That era was known as the dead ball era.
Originally posted by Smasandian
How the hell is that post about racism?Are your referring to the point of 'juiced ball'?
If so, he means that ball wasnt tightly wound like it is today. That era was known as the dead ball era.
nah...
i was just asking why dude said "In my mind he is still the true homerun king." hank aaron hit 30+(not sure) homers more than the bambino in a tougher era but unfortunately that's not enough for mr. parker.
as for bonds...
im talkin bout how that b*tch ass houston astros pitcher tried to hit Bonds 3 times before he finally connected
the manager and pitcher should be suspended and fined HEAVILY.
and then get their asses beat
ain't shit changed
Originally posted by P, that Dude
nah...i was just asking why dude said "In my mind he is still the true homerun king." hank aaron hit 30+(not sure) homers more than the bambino in a tougher era but unfortunately that's not enough for mr. parker.
as for bonds...
im talkin bout how that b*tch ass houston astros pitcher tried to hit Bonds 3 times before he finally connected
the manager and pitcher should be suspended and fined HEAVILY.
and then get their asses beat
ain't shit changed
It's still his personal opinion. Also, Aaron did not hit in a tougher era than Ruth.
Also, why didnt you ask Mr Parker about his statement in the first time instead of implying that he is racist.
Also, we cant read your mind so you have to more clear on what you say.
Originally posted by P, that Dude
nah...
i was just asking why dude said "In my mind he is still the true homerun king." hank aaron hit 30+(not sure) homers more than the bambino in a tougher era but unfortunately that's not enough for mr. parker.as for bonds...
im talkin bout how that b*tch ass houston astros pitcher tried to hit Bonds 3 times before he finally connected
the manager and pitcher should be suspended and fined HEAVILY.
and then get their asses beat
ain't shit changed
First off, nobody wants to be the one to give it up to Bonds. You understand this, right? Second, I assume you realize that the pitcher doesn't just go out there and operate on his own. Sure, ultimately he throws the pitch, but he is not calling his own pitches. If he fails to do as he's told, he will suffer any number of consequences.
Second, everyone who gets close to breaking a single-season, career or game record or going to encounter some resistance. Such as getting fat, juicy pitches served to him. Part of the game is tolerating intentional walks while waiting for that fastball down the middle. They owe Bonds NOTHING.
Finally, as far as pitchers trying "to hit Bonds 3 times", only the manager and pitcheer know for sure. If Bonds were truly a selfless team player, he'd take a hit to get on base for the team.
I just want this to be over. There's more than one player out there.
While the WBC was being played, Bonds still managed to grab a huge amount of press. I complained about it and my husband asked me "What does it matter? He isn't even playing in the WBC."
Exactly. He understood my point and said nothing more.