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who wins

Well Count Nefaria is described as a vampire/superman because he sucks ionic energy. But anyways i say Superman wins. Because he's superman.

Neferia is supes lite , with all the same powers (minus the extrasensory abilities) , Superman is obviously more powerful because he's the original (The only 'Marvel Superman' who seems to actually be stronger then their 'father' is perhaps sentry , with gladiators showings being to varied to make an accurate account and Hyperion being about equal)

Superman takes it.

Originally posted by grey fox
Neferia is supes lite , with all the same powers (minus the extrasensory abilities) , Superman is obviously more powerful because he's the original (The only 'Marvel Superman' who seems to actually be stronger then their 'father' is perhaps sentry , with gladiators showings being to varied to make an accurate account and Hyperion being about equal)

Superman takes it.

Supes lite my ass:

Tearing through the Avengers:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/avengersv3-034pic2.gif

Take a look how the Mjolnir affects him:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/nefaria34ob.jpg

Let me remind everyone again how Supes takes a Mjolnir shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/030904.jpg

Nefaria can end the fight within a few hours, he should be fine. If not, it's his ass. He does not lose his powers quickly. It does take awhile. The only time he's ever lost power quickly is when he was shot with Madam Masque's Ionic Lock Gun.

Nefaria 7 times out of 10.

PS. This thread has been done before.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Supes lite my ass:

Tearing through the Avengers:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/avengersv3-034pic2.gif

Take a look how the Mjolnir affects him:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/nefaria34ob.jpg

Let me remind everyone again how Supes takes a Mjolnir shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/030904.jpg

Nefaria can end the fight within a few hours, he should be fine. If not, it's his ass. He does not lose his powers quickly. It does take awhile. The only time he's ever lost power quickly is when he was shot with Madam Masque's Ionic Lock Gun.

Nefaria 7 times out of 10.

PS. This thread has been done before.

Supes lite powerwise .

Now let's take a look at that picture shall we , in it are all people with ether ...

A. Human durability

B. Human equilibrium

Of course their going to get thrown about by Neferia taking off.

Covers usually don't convey the truth otherwise Thor would be dead (as would many other characters)

Not only that but Superman has a specific vulnerability to magic , whereas Neferia has no known 'weakness (aside from the 'Ionic Lock gun' )

A full powered Count Nefaria will beat superman into a coma, CN can't feel pain, hell he took a shot from the hammer without being phase.


Count Nefaria FP wins 10/10

Count Nefaria win 7/10

superman FP 10/10

Normal superman 7/10

see i can do that too

count nefaria simply loses 6/10 times

Mattday, you can't go around saying "see, I can do that to" and think you're proving a point. Nefaria is much more powerful than Superman could wish to be. Nefaria 7/10.

Nefaria struggles to move mountains .... Superman can move the moon .... Nefria was KO'ed by Vision .... Superman takes reality distorting punches

Superman wins !

Originally posted by MattDay
superman FP 10/10

Normal superman 7/10

see i can do that too



is up your ass, Count Nefaria is a Ionic being who can absorb alot of ionic radation more he absrobs the more powerful he becomes. Count Nefaria at Full Powered will smoke superman like a chronic blunt, Count Nefaria doesn'te feel pain at all, his strenght is immeasurable, great invulnerability withstand a hit from the hammer with out being move, can superman can say the same, uh no.

Originally posted by Doctor SKank
Nefaria struggles to move mountains .... Superman can move the moon .... Nefria was KO'ed by Vision .... Superman takes reality distorting punches

Superman wins !

When did Nefaria struggle to move a mountain?

Superman struugle to move the moon and had help, your point is what?

I think supes takes this, in IC 7 he flew through a red sun on to a planet then surounded by kryptonite and still took ut superboy prime

That sounds like more Superman BS

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Supes lite my ass:

Tearing through the Avengers:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/avengersv3-034pic2.gif

Take a look how the Mjolnir affects him:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/nefaria34ob.jpg

Let me remind everyone again how Supes takes a Mjolnir shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/030904.jpg

Nefaria can end the fight within a few hours, he should be fine. If not, it's his ass. He does not lose his powers quickly. It does take awhile. The only time he's ever lost power quickly is when he was shot with Madam Masque's Ionic Lock Gun.

Nefaria 7 times out of 10.

PS. This thread has been done before.

Let's see

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6199/avengersunplugged01p156tx.jpg
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1057/avengersunplugged01p165rl.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8013/avengersunplugged01p220nl.jpg

Superman is many times stronger than Vision evn at diamond form.

As I recall, Superman didn't tow that planet by himself.

Thats Nefarius..Not Nefaria

my mistake. i was thinking of something entirely different. sorry...

Its ok..no worries.....

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Supes lite my ass:

Tearing through the Avengers:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/avengersv3-034pic2.gif

Take a look how the Mjolnir affects him:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/nefaria34ob.jpg

Let me remind everyone again how Supes takes a Mjolnir shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/030904.jpg

Nefaria can end the fight within a few hours, he should be fine. If not, it's his ass. He does not lose his powers quickly. It does take awhile. The only time he's ever lost power quickly is when he was shot with Madam Masque's Ionic Lock Gun.

Nefaria 7 times out of 10.

PS. This thread has been done before.

Inconsequential.

Misleading people again? We both know when aware Supes caught the hammer with one hand. Thanos has had the same thing happen to him. Does that mean that Nefaria can beat Thanos too?

Where is the real proof for Nefaria?

Can anyone post feats of Nefaria(not that there is many)

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Inconsequential.

Misleading people again? We both know when aware Supes caught the hammer with one hand. Thanos has had the same thing happen to him. Does that mean that Nefaria can beat Thanos too?

Where is the real proof for Nefaria?

I thought that you didn't count crossovers on these boards?

By the bye, Superman still couldn't tear through the Thunderbolts and Avengers like that, so I don't really see your point.

Originally posted by Thanos_6383
When did Nefaria struggle to move a mountain?

The 99 Iron man annual ..... he tries liftin a mountains and drops it on himself due to a shortage in his apprently 'lmitless power'. I thought limitless meant limitless ?

Originally posted by Dayscribe
I thought that you didn't count crossovers on these boards?

By the bye, Superman still couldn't tear through the Thunderbolts and Avengers like that, so I don't really see your point.

Apparently, the one I'm discussing does.
Superman has gone through the league and has plenty of crazy feats.
Where are the feats for your guy?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Inconsequential.

Misleading people again? We both know when aware Supes caught the hammer with one hand. Thanos has had the same thing happen to him. Does that mean that Nefaria can beat Thanos too?

Where is the real proof for Nefaria?



You sound like me.

Oh, and Supes wins. Speed kills. Even ionic energy beings.

Originally posted by the Darkone
is up your ass, Count Nefaria is a Ionic being who can absorb alot of ionic radation more he absrobs the more powerful he becomes. Count Nefaria at Full Powered will smoke superman like a chronic blunt, Count Nefaria doesn'te feel pain at all, his strenght is immeasurable, great invulnerability withstand a hit from the hammer with out being move, can superman can say the same, uh no.

superman couldn't take the hammer because of its magical effects.
But nefaria is immune to magic. Superman took a mountain destroying punch from doomsday with no ill effect.
common sense should tell you that if vision koed nefaria then he is obviously less durable than superman besides magic (besides superman can hit with greater force than that of which vision hit him).

hmm, that scan of vision on the previous page was nefarius, i believe. i think he had similar powers to nefaria, but not the same.

cn was shown to be about equal to thor in strength which could make him close to supes' level. speed wise supes also has the advantage imo. cn did tear apart the tbolts and the avengers, but 2 big guns --wm and atlas -- were not part of the fight, and neither was thor who was more than holding his own in battle 1on1 with cn. ironman matched cn briefly in strength and the avengers were able to wear him out and ko him. i think durability needs to go to supes as well.

i like cn, but he's slightly below supes in all categories, imo. supes would win this everytime, but i don't think he would make it THAT easy for superman.