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Spawn enters the DC Universe as Spectre is on his "destroy all magic" rampage. He picks up on the huge magical disturbance that Spawn's arrival creates, and heads straight for him.

Spawn, but that would be a cool story if continued.

Spectre wins easily. Had it been both 2nd Age Spawn and The Disciple then they would more than likely wins

Spawn , he was killing god's . Spectre (even powered) is no god.

Originally posted by Tallis
Spectre wins easily. Had it been both 2nd Age Spawn and The Disciple then they would more than likely wins
No. Disciple defnitly is much higher than the Spectre.

Spectre is near galactus level. How can they possibly contend with that

Originally posted by Tallis
Spectre is near galactus level. How can they possibly contend with that
First off, Spectre > Galactus, Disciple >>>>> Galactus and Spectre, Disciple is the most powerful angel in heaven currently.

Spectre wins it took god himself to stop the Spectre from his rampage.

How. Can you comprehend how powerful galactu is then if Spectre is even stronger, how could 2nd Age Spawn defeat him, when he has trouble fighting off Redeemers.

FYI we don't really know HOW powerful the Disciple is yet

Originally posted by Tallis
How. Can you comprehend how powerful galactu is then if Spectre is even stronger, how could 2nd Age Spawn defeat him, when he has trouble fighting off Redeemers.

FYI we don't really know HOW powerful the Disciple is yet
Has spectre created his own heaven in hell?

Originally posted by Takion
Has spectre created his own heaven in hell?

Yup

Originally posted by S.S
Spectre wins it took god himself to stop the Spectre from his rampage.
Yes because no other being was able to stop him, the prescence is definitly above spectre, spectre is just a fraction of his powers.

Originally posted by grey fox
Yup
Then I need to know which issue.

Originally posted by Takion
Yes because no other being was able to stop him, the prescence is definitly above spectre, spectre is just a fraction of his powers.
I know that's what I said..........

Originally posted by S.S
I know that's what I said..........
Tell me who was able to stop Spawn at second age.

he basically recreated the universe after the COIE. stopped antimonitor without destroying all of the heroes.

and Presence is wayy above anything that Spawn can comprehend.

Originally posted by Takion
Tell me who was able to stop Spawn at second age.
I wouldn't know I don't read Spawn...........
So enlighten me...........

Originally posted by Superherovandal
he basically recreated the universe after the COIE. stopped antimonitor without destroying all of the heroes.
That was Jim Corigan Spectre, this is host-less.

Originally posted by S.S
I wouldn't know I don't read Spawn...........
So enlighten me...........
Nobody.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
and Presence is wayy above anything that Spawn can comprehend.

Yes I know that.

Originally posted by Takion
Has spectre created his own heaven in hell?

He froze hell over.

The Spectre most powerful form is the spirit of vengences, then jim corrigan, hal jordan. The Spectre will them all, he has the power to call upon angels even archanel michael, hell god would give him more power if needed.

Well god is not going to give him more power because this is Day of Vegence Spectre and the Spawn can call upon The Legion.

The spectre will still be favor by God, no matter what.

That means jack shit This is a vs. topice there is not outside help.

Originally posted by Milkie
That means jack shit This is a vs. topice there is not outside help.

Doesn't the legion include that guy which ate zeus ?

I'm not sure that was said to be non-canon or something but possibly so i'm not sure, BUT there are possibly Hellspawn that could take out Zeus. Spawn has gotten the ability to summon souls to join The Legion. He could get the most powerful of these souls and make them Hellspawn.

Originally posted by Milkie
I'm not sure that was said to be non-canon or something but possibly so i'm not sure, BUT there are possibly Hellspawn that could take out Zeus. Spawn has gotten the ability to summon souls to join The Legion. He could get the most powerful of these souls and make them Hellspawn.
Al Simmons the most powerful of them all right?

Spectre still eats spawn alive. God will still favor Spectre.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Spectre still eats spawn alive. God will still favor Spectre.
So your saying Spectre can defeat nearly all the spawns who are above most of the characters in Marvel.

Originally posted by the Darkone
The spectre will still be favor by God, no matter what.
are you mad ? spawn can do anything he wants there is no way that spectre can beat him besides spectre got his ass handled by black adam

way too many SPawn fanboys, GOD himself was the only one that was able to stop the spectre, wtf does that tell you?, SPawn is no god, and all this bs of spawn killing gods.. whatever, did he kill THE god of his serious? if he did, what a gimp and overpowering/boring character just to sell comics, lol.

Originally posted by YourBiggestFan
way too many SPawn fanboys, GOD himself was the only one that was able to stop the spectre, wtf does that tell you?, SPawn is no god, and all this bs of spawn killing gods.. whatever, did he kill THE god of his serious? if he did, what a gimp and overpowering/boring character just to sell comics, lol.

"bwaaahahahaa teh fanbOyS is so MAny they do nOT noW!!!111!!@1!!"

STFU

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d20/mikehasadd/i3cphy.gif

Originally posted by YourBiggestFan
way too many SPawn fanboys, GOD himself was the only one that was able to stop the spectre, wtf does that tell you?, SPawn is no god, and all this bs of spawn killing gods.. whatever, did he kill THE god of his serious? if he did, what a gimp and overpowering/boring character just to sell comics, lol.
First off im no fanboy, Spawn was being such a threat to heaven they had to send done there most powerful angel. There are Characters in DC who could stop the Spectre, E.G Lucifer.

and Lucifer and Michael are the most powerful angels in DCU. they are the first creations of Yahweh.

The Word is the first creation that The Presence/God created and uncreated, Lucifer and Michael was created shortly after.

Sorry to have Offended you Milkie didnt know Spawn meant so much to you, it took god himself to stop the Spectre, afaik It can go either way.

Originally posted by Takion
First off im no fanboy, Spawn was being such a threat to heaven they had to send done there most powerful angel. There are Characters in DC who could stop the Spectre, E.G Lucifer.
Not really Lucifer has never been in a fight that he won agianst the Spectre,Micheal beat Spectre once when he was sent and empowered by the presence(not sure how many times they had to go at it).
Like I said before it would take the presence to stop the spectre and Spawns no Presence.

lucifer and micheal should be above the spectre, i hope they are anyway, beside that i dont know who would win it seems that this spawn is UBER strong like beyond almost anyone but having his own army might not even help him, when spectre came for satannus he had an army ready and he knew the spectre would still win.

Asmodel was impressed by Spectre's full power...and this was a being who was stopped by God himself after conquering the rest of heaven.

You got any pictures of Asmodel.

I know is story and all but i've never seen him.

Nevermind

He's ugly

http://www.dcworld.it/public/DCWorld/Personaggi/Asmodel.jpg

Didnt Spawn hold God hostage once?

Yep

When was that? Seriously I definitely buy that comic

i.032

It was right after his Symbiot grew and he was weak. He invades Heaven's terran headquarters. He was very lucky and God was on his side.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
are you mad ? spawn can do anything he wants there is no way that spectre can beat him besides spectre got his ass handled by black adam lol yup its all up to god if god says spectre you will job to spawn he will. spectre LT they do what god tells them. i hate when people make threads with LT or the spectre in them. it is hard to say who can beat them really its all up to god.

Originally posted by YourBiggestFan
way too many SPawn fanboys, GOD himself was the only one that was able to stop the spectre, wtf does that tell you?, SPawn is no god, and all this bs of spawn killing gods.. whatever, did he kill THE god of his serious? if he did, what a gimp and overpowering/boring character just to sell comics, lol. wow overpowering/boring.... sounds like SUPERMAN . stop crying

Originally posted by mighty adam
wow overpowering/boring.... sounds like SUPERMAN . stop crying

thanks for proving my point, ofc Superman is overpowering and sometimes boring, b/c he hardly ever loses. How gimp can "God" be in the spawn comics when spawn can own him.. lol.. God = creater of everything, you don't beat god.

Spawn never defeated God. Nor can he.

Originally posted by YourBiggestFan
thanks for proving my point, ofc Superman is overpowering and sometimes boring, b/c he hardly ever loses. How gimp can "God" be in the spawn comics when spawn can own him.. lol.. God = creater of everything, you don't beat god.
Dude, the Saint of Killers murderered God and thats part of DC.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Dude, the Saint of Killers murderered God and thats part of DC.

Actually it's part of Vertigo which is like a sub-company within a company.

Yeah I know, but most people who argue for dc accept vertigo and part of DC so they can have heavier fire when it comes to debating
Lucifer,Michael, etc

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Yeah I know, but most people who argue for dc accept vertigo and part of DC so they can have heavier fire when it comes to debating
Lucifer,Michael, etc Micheal and Lucifer have both appeared in the mainstream DCU, and likewise, DCU characters have appeared in Lucifer and Sandman titles, all in canon comics. Some accept it, others say it's not canon for DC.

Preacher however is a standalone comic altogether, not part of DC or Vertigo's storylines.

I think not many accept it because Dc mainstream pretty much has everything together with their God situation such as Presence and the source relationship. I think the problem is that their are so many universal changes that happen in the Morningstar comics yet all of the DCU is not affected.

In Day of Judgement, a Spectre conquered Hell with not much more than simply willing it to happen. Froze it over, then opened the gateway between Hell and Earth, and let all the demons out.

What i mean is look at the situation now. Their is a new God. You'd think a big change like that would have a universal affect.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
What i mean is look at the situation now. Their is a new God. You'd think a big change like that would have a universal affect. That and Elaine got rid of hell, altogether. But yeah, I see what you mean.

But on the other side... when Spectre was looking for God, he went and asked Lucifer, who had recently given up his throne of hell, both in his own title, and apperently also in Spectre's title.

Originally posted by Juntai
Micheal and Lucifer have both appeared in the mainstream DCU, and likewise, DCU characters have appeared in Lucifer and Sandman titles, all in canon comics. Some accept it, others say it's not canon for DC.

Preacher however is a standalone comic altogether, not part of DC or Vertigo's storylines.

True, they have, but to be fair an appearance of a character in both comic labels doesnt make it canon when debating about DCU. By that logic What Ifs would be canon for the 616 universe in Marvel.

Originally posted by YourBiggestFan
{thanks for proving my point, ofc Superman is overpowering and sometimes boring, b/c he hardly ever loses. How gimp can "God" be in the spawn comics when spawn can own him.. lol.. God = creater of everything, you don't beat god.}

First off, like it was already said, God pitied Spawn and allowed him to take him hostage because his goals were unselfish, and this was like first age spawn, this was a WHILE BACK.

As for you don't beat god, it depends what you beleive. I'm really surprised that to many comic book fans are religious, I sorta assumed it would be otherwise. I thought more Athiests or Agnostics would be into it also, hey theres nothing wrong with that guys, im not going against anyone here....

but guys, if you're always pinned down to the beleif that no character in all of fantasy can beat the One God than your imagination is totally limitted.

Personally, I get kinda turned off by this whole "well its up to God to decide who wins"

That's why I like the series DAWN by Joe Linsner and Crossgen comics as well.

In Dawn, God is more of a frawd and a bully, he's not as powerful as he claims to be, hell he even has gods superior to him.

And in Crossgen there is no god, only godlike beings.

In those scenarios victory can go to ANYONE, theres no cheesy "Well God said so" deal here, theres more at stake, theres more conflict and uncertainty, and you don't know what the hell to expect.

All I suggest is that you guys read more and open your mind...hope I didnt go way off topic here : )

Ne ways, in terms of sheer power, if Spectre is equivlent to Living Tribunal like everyone claims, than Spawn in any version goes down.

Dude, the way comics in spawn are going, spawn may face the true lucifer. In DC, Lucifer is above spectre.

I know..that sh*t's gonna be AWESOME !

I wouldn't say that Spawn could beat Vertigo's Lucifer. I'm sure he's gonna have his hands full with Image's version of Lucifer, now that we finally get to see it.

I'd bet Lucifer would beat Spawn, and in terms of sheer power Spectre might as well, although I'm not totally sure. People compare Spectre to Living Tribunal, yet Spectre gets involved in Earthly matters while Living Tribunal only gets involved in Universal affairs.

If Spectre is truly on LT's level, than yeah he'd beat Spawn, spawn is only linked to his one universe (However in Image, i beleive there is no multiverse, they don't follow that path. There one Universe is all)

Lucifer has never been mentioned specifically in the Spawn mythos but he was the leader of the rebel angels. Mammon led the neutral angels and Michael led the loyal ones.

{Lucifer has never been mentioned specifically in the Spawn mythos but he was the leader of the rebel angels. Mammon led the neutral angels and Michael led the loyal ones.}

YES HE HAS

In Curse of the Spawn, the few comics with Abdiel the angel who was sent to slay malebolgia before Al Simmon's transformation. He was referred to as the "Big L" who ruined everything in Heaven, the most beautiful yet concieted Angel who dared challenge "the Big G"

and

Recently, mammon promised Spawn dominion over Earth if he let him examine his secrets completely. Spawn said "You can't promise that. Only Satan can." Then Thamuz was pissed and said "How dare you speak the masters name"

Yes Milkie Lucifer was mentioned

Originally posted by Lord Urizen


YES HE HAS

In Curse of the Spawn, the few comics with Abdiel the angel who was sent to slay malebolgia before Al Simmon's transformation. He was referred to as the "Big L" who ruined everything in Heaven, the most beautiful yet concieted Angel who dared challenge "the Big G"

That was Non-Canon

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Recently, mammon promised Spawn dominion over Earth if he let him examine his secrets completely. Spawn said "You can't promise that. Only Satan can." Then Thamuz was pissed and said "How dare you speak the masters name"Yes Milkie Lucifer was mentioned

He's not going to fight Satan. End of Story.

{That was Non-Canon}

Okay since when?

{He's not going to fight Satan. End of Story.}

So what?

The point was you said Lucifer was never mentioned. MY point was YES HE WAS...whether or not it was canon makes no difference. BTW,
ligten up bro.

I SAID HE WAS NOT !SPECIFICALLY! MENTIONED.

The Curse of the Spawn is not part of the Spawn Comics.

It states that Daniel Llanso was the Spawn that kick started Armeggedon, and now with the recent revelations from Spawn 150 +, it omits that.

{I SAID HE WAS NOT !SPECIFICALLY! MENTIONED.

The Curse of the Spawn is not part of the Spawn Comics.

It states that Daniel Llanso was the Spawn that kick started Armeggedon, and now with the recent revelations from Spawn 150 +, it omits that.}

Point taken. Except i was arguing against that at all.

soooooo is lucifer gonna come out any time soon in image comics?

??????????? :P come on people tell me is lucifer EVER comming out in image comics?

We don't know.

It's kinda unpredictable.

Let's just wait for things to come into play before we start saying these things.

spectre wins!

its unknown if spectre wins, swampthing with the power of nature once took on the presence or some one really really high up there and was winning supposidly it happend after constantine unlocked his full potential with the greenworld power over all nature, spawn would kick spectre's butt, maybe and how can spectre hurt spawn if heaven and hell couldnt?

Originally posted by Mider
its unknown if spectre wins, swampthing with the power of nature once took on the presence or some one really really high up there and was winning supposidly it happend after constantine unlocked his full potential with the greenworld power over all nature, spawn would kick spectre's butt, maybe and how can spectre hurt spawn if heaven and hell couldnt? Because Spawns Heaven and Hell are weak. A flawed God.
Heaven and Hell aren't even portrayed as absolutes in Image.


Spectre has created and destroyed universes, one host conquered Hell with basically a thought.

Not this again. This will only result in arguements about which God is flawed and Judging by the morningstar comic, Yaweh and Elaine are definitely flawed.

why is that god flawed he didnt get cought by spawn cause spawn is greater then he is, i dont think that god in spawn comics is flawed the thing is that the green world or nature see's heaven and hells war as total BS.

Originally posted by Juntai
Because Spawns Heaven and Hell are weak. A flawed God.
Heaven and Hell aren't even portrayed as absolutes in Image.


Spectre has created and destroyed universes, one host conquered Hell with basically a thought.
Do you have any proove Spawns heaven and hell are weak. Spawns heaven and hell are stronger than D.C's probably.